Why Columbus is a great trading partner for Edmonton

Jonathan Willis
June 02 2013 11:33AM

There probably isn’t a team in the NHL that is a more logical trading partner for the Edmonton Oilers than the Columbus Blue Jackets. Lots of draft picks? Check. Good players on iffy contracts that could be dealt? Check. Strength on defence? Check. Executives with knowledge of the team? Check. All the ingredients are in place.

Draft Picks

Columbus has the following picks at this year’s entry draft:

  • First round, 14th overall
  • First round, 19th overall
  • First round, 27th overall*
  • Second round, 44th overall
  • Fourth round, 105th overall
  • Sixth round, 165th overall
  • Seventh round, 195th overall

*The exact position of the Los Angeles Kings’ first round draft pick is still unknown.

If the Oilers plan to move down for draft picks only, Columbus has a nice stockpile of first-round selections. If they want to move down to add a player and a pick, again the Blue Jackets are a logical trading partner.

Players

R.J. Umberger. I’ve written about the possibility of the Oilers acquiring Umberger from Columbus before, and believe it’s the kind of move that could benefit both teams. From a Blue Jackets’ perspective, a primary reason he’s vulnerable is contract – he comes with a $4.6 million cap hit for the next four years, he’s 31 and Columbus isn’t a cap team (Umberger has been mentioned as a potential buyout candidate, though that strikes me as unlikely). He also had a bit of a down year offensively (31-point pace over an 82-game season after five years between 40 and 57 points).

From an Oilers perspective, Umberger fits a lot of criteria. Positionally, he has spent significant time at both left wing and centre, meaning he could slot in behind Taylor Hall on the port side (and perhaps help Sam Gagner by taking some draws for him) or he could move to the middle if needed. He’s a reasonably good volume shooter: he’s fired 200+ shots in each of the four seasons before this one. He’s also a career 10.7 percent shooter, which is why he scored between 20-26 goals in each of the four seasons prior to this one. He’s a two-way player used to playing tough minutes (defensive zone starts, good opponents, penalty kill) and he also plays a reasonably physical style. Topping it all off: he stands 6’2” and weighs 220 pounds.

Ryan Johansen. A 6’3”, 203 pound centre, Johansen was the fourth overall pick in the 2010 draft and a guy the Oilers have reportedly always coveted to at least some degree. He hasn’t delivered offensively at the NHL level but is a big young centre with undeniable talent.

Boone Jenner. Another big centre, Jenner is a prospect it’s difficult to imagine the Blue Jackets turning over. The 6’2”, 204 pound Jenner has always been of interest as a big defensive forward, but last season evolved into a player capable of producing high-end offence (45 goals in 56 games) at the junior level.

The defence. The Blue Jackets are strong on the blue line and have a number of players that might be of interest to Edmonton. James Wisniewski’s big money contract makes him expendable; he’s still a top-four defenceman with significant offensive talent and decent size (6’, 208 pounds). Other players are less likely to be available (or less desirable, in the case of Jack Johnson), but Fedor Tyutin would be a phenomenal acquisition for the Oilers and Nikita Nikitin is underrated.

Connections

The other obvious connection is Scott Howson – Craig MacTavish’s top lieutenant just finished up a long stretch as the Jackets’ general manager. He knows the players on the team – he acquired a lot of them – he knows their prospect system and he also likely has a better idea of the financial situation of the team than anybody else outside the organization.

None of this is any guarantee that a trade will be made, but there’s no doubt that the Blue Jackets match up very well as a potential trade partner for the Oilers.

Recently around the Nation Network

At Canucks Army, Jeff Angus has been running a series looking at potential trades involving Vancouver defenceman Alex Edler. In Trading Alex Edler: Who To Target, Part II, the Edmonton Oilers get a prominent mention:

Would the Canucks move Edler for Eberle? Would Edmonton? Would the trade make Vancouver significantly better? I think it would improve Edmonton’s team considerably – no slight to Eberle, but a two-way puck mover like Edler would be exactly what the doctor ordered (or has been trying to order for years) for the Oilers. Would the Canucks move Edler for Gagner and Paajarvi? Generally, the team receiving the best player in a trade wins the deal, so this probably isn’t one that would interest Mike Gillis a whole lot.

While the idea of running Alex Edler/Jeff Petry and Ladislav Smid/Justin Schultz is much more appealing than the current mix, my trouble with trading for a guy like Edler would be that I don't trust him as a defensive defenceman. He has real offensive tools, but even in highly favourable usage under Alain Vigneault the Canucks have been better off with other defencemen on the ice. 

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 Wax Man Riley
June 02 2013, 04:58PM
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Oilcan wrote:

Does anyone else think NewAgeSys is just using a hockey thesaurus to make sentences to try and prove a point.

Could have some valid points but I find myself skipping over the 500 page novel with incoherent sentences for better comments.

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June 02 2013, 04:34PM
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Does anyone else think NewAgeSys is just using a hockey thesaurus to make sentences to try and prove a point.

Could have some valid points but I find myself skipping over the 500 page novel with incoherent sentences for better comments.

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#3 Wax Man Riley
June 02 2013, 11:13PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

Nice of you to remember some of the good stuff,dont forget the parts about training with and competing against Olympic caliber sprinters,CFL level players,Team Canada level Rugby players,New Zealand All-Blacks,oodles of hockey guys,most who never made it to the NHL a few who did,not to mention a little coaching of both mens and womens sports teams thrown in for fun.Oh yes and come on now be more accurate I was running at about 190 lbs when I was hitting 4.6 /40s.I couldnt maintain that at over 200lbs,but dam close.

There was the Football named Palmer,who was the only ball player to top me endirance.I have had associations with NHL players but choose to keep them out of my conversations because I never played hockey and didnt compete directly against them or train with them.But they were around.

There was the unofficial Canadian javelin record I threw at 14,oh hell I cant remember everything.

Who the hell would listen to someone who hadnt accomplished anything?Some people BS online and some dont.I dont.

If you nitpick enough my memory might slip a tad here or there like anyone,I am a bit long in the tooth.But generally you will get the same schtick from me.Yes I turned down scholarships and overseas Professional playing opportunitys before i was old enough to get into the bar.

I never really thought much of my path,and never ever brought it up until I began posting online,everyone is a competitor and has a story,I like to let people know where I am coming from,and i dont care if they BS me about themselves,I am not here to play Maury Pauvich with the cyber-polygraph.

As a competitor you wouldnt have gotten a word out of me unless you were a teammate in the room or an opponent on the field or court.I NEVER spoke up about my own accomplishments,not ever, it was a superstitious thing with me,and tacticlly and dynamiclly unsound.I wouldnt even talk shop after my shower,never.Total disconnect the minute i was dried off everything stayed with the towel,no carryover at all,I played to many sports to dwell on things for very long without screwing with the next domino.

The NewAge Hockey System didnt come blowing out of me arse 3 years ago and just land on the Oilers site by fluke prior to my unholy banning as many probably wish it had,it is a product of a well versed and dominant competative and coaching mindset,one used to winning,and if possible crushing opponents.I created the NHS FOR the Oilers.,ha ha ha.

I never played hockey so ,obviously on a hockey site I have a lot of fun trying to keep up to everyone in some areas,but the dynamic is reversed in an equal number of areas when it comes to understanding the winning formula as applied to all competative dynamics because I own that area when up against traditional hockey mindsets,I specialised in dissecting that specific mindset as i grew up,most good athletes were hockey brainwashed.It gave me a real edge,because they all think alike,its the quality coaching across the board,ha ha ha.I admittedly used to pick on hockey players for sport.Why not they were the biggest challenge?2nd only to unholy freaking Lacrosse Players,gotta love em always trying to hurt you ,hey I forgot to mention my friend and training partner who played for the Seaspray....oh forget about it,you will quit believing me soon ha ha ha ha.Oh yea I forgot,you already dont believe me,ha ha ha,thats cool.

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#4 Lexi
June 02 2013, 12:36PM
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JW,

The other thing that makes Columbus a good trading is them moving to the Eastern Conference.

To me Nikitin is the obvious target, and he will probably be the least expensive top 4 Dman on the market. He only has 1 year left until UFA, so he has minimal trade value, has played with Belov so would seem to be a great fit. What would need to be added to Hemsky with some retained salary to make it work? A second round pick/a Musil like prospect/Nick Schultz?

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#6 DSF
June 02 2013, 04:30PM
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striker777 wrote:

Wasn't Nikitin playing with Beloved in the KHL during this lockout and Belov had a career year?

Good article, as there are so many trade possibilities with CLB. However, trading away #7 pick if Nichushkin is still available, is totally unacceptable.

I like Paajarvi to CLB for their #27 and Johansen or Jenner.

Columbus has to give up their 27th AND a player to get Paajarvi?

Put down the pipe son.

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#7 The Soup Fascist
June 02 2013, 06:23PM
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@Wax Man Riley

Wax Man is Keyser Soze ......... Keyser Soze is Wax Man!

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#9 Cutterov
June 02 2013, 11:43AM
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Jenner would be a huge addition to the oilers group and a perfect 3rd line centre... Big body, physical, bit of crazy and looks to have found his offensive game... I was a bit disappointed when the oil didn't grab him in the 2nd round of the 11 draft.. The only way I would acquire umberger is if horcoff went the other way and Columbus added a pick for the extra contract years... Would be a wash for the oil for 2 years and a change of scenery for both guys...

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#10 OilClog
June 02 2013, 11:53AM
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Johansen.. Perfect age and match for the cluster, could get it going playing with this group. Wouldn't pay much for him though, Lander + Omarks rights.

Boone hasn't delivered squat in the Bigs, we need the help now.

Tyutin would be real nice.

If Jordan Eberle was to be traded, better be someone more significant then Edler. If anyone wants Eberle, they better be offering the Moon and Stars.

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#11 mlcsellil
June 02 2013, 12:03PM
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I have never been a huge Howson fan, so when the Oil announced hiring him, I thought, "How is he going to help us? There goes Lowe again keeping his friends employed". After reading your article Jonathan, I think Howson is going to be money in the bank for us. Now Lowes logic (at least in this case) makes sense .

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#12 Concur
June 02 2013, 12:06PM
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I can't see the Oilers moving Eberle for Edler. I like the prospect of trading with Columbus. My only concern is the cap room, if the Oilers want to be adding veterans that cost, they have to be shipping out contracts. This means more than just Belanger and Eager. Top of my list would be N Shultz, he is being too much for 3rd pairing.

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#13 Concur
June 02 2013, 12:08PM
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mlcsellil wrote:

I have never been a huge Howson fan, so when the Oil announced hiring him, I thought, "How is he going to help us? There goes Lowe again keeping his friends employed". After reading your article Jonathan, I think Howson is going to be money in the bank for us. Now Lowes logic (at least in this case) makes sense .

Having inside for one team is not enough. Howson has to be offering more than that to be competent.

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June 02 2013, 12:12PM
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JW, you've identified several CLB players the Oilers might have interest in, but what EDM players would the Blue Jackets have interest in?

As far as I can see, they wouldn't have any interest in an Oiler defenseman other than Schultz Jr. and I don't think he's going anywhere.

Also bear in mind Ryan Murray will likely be joining the Jackets this fall.

D:

Tyutin

Johnson

Nikitin

Proult

Wiz

Murray

They've shored up their goaltending with Bobrovsky so that leaves forwards.

C:

Ansimov

Dubinsky

Johanssen

Letestu

Jenner

LW:

Calvert

Prospal

Umberger

McKenzie

RW:

Gaborik

Atkinson

Foligno

Comeau

So what holes do the Jackets have that the Oilers could fill?

They might have been interested in Hemsky but they went out and acquired Gaborik.

I doubt they would have much interest in Gagner since they're pretty solid at centre with Boone Jenner on the way.

They might want to be rid of Jack Johnson's contract in return for a scoring winger but the Oilers don't have any to spare unless Eberle is in play.

So, while the Oilers might covet what the Jackets have I can't see the interest in the other direction and, with 3 first round picks, the Jackets are in a great position to wheel and deal at the draft.

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#15 Sox and Oil
June 02 2013, 12:13PM
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I can't see Edmonton being interested in Wiz. If for some reason they did want him, Hemsky would have to be going the other way no? Plus what kind of incentive would Columbus need to include to off load that much salary?

Wiz plus 19OV (too much? LA's 1st then)for Hemsky and Edmonton's 2nd (or Anaheim's 2nd if its LAs 1st)

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#16 Mean Machine
June 02 2013, 12:33PM
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@DSF

They may not have much interest in roster players but I think we should go after Jenner as I've stated before.

7th overall, 37th overall or Paajarvi (to replace Prospal long term perhaps) for Jenner and one of their first rounders.

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#17 Rama Lama
June 02 2013, 12:38PM
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All the good players that the BJ have came from fairly good drafting.......us giving up any draft picks may fill a need now but will be costly down the road.

I believe that every team in the NHL has players (given the new CBA) they no longer can afford to keep. The smart teams will be looking heavily on the compliance buyouts, and picking the best available players to bridge their needs until draft pick mature.

It's too bad our past idiotic GM gave up our third and fourth round draft picks for absolutely nothing! We could have had another potential first round draft pick ( Hemsky) but he managed to screw this up also. How much would that have helped in drafting up........say to secure a top five pick? Maybe we would be talking about moving up and taking Nichushkin right now? This kid is the next Malkin except meaner.........we do not have the draft choices available to help us move up in the draft......thanks ST!

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#19 madjam
June 02 2013, 12:41PM
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Eberle would have to be part of a blockbuster deal that I don't see happening . Edler not near enough . Maybe they try Edler , Bieksa , Kesler , Burrows , and take Luongo off their hands : while we toss them Hemsky , Horcoff , Belanger , Eager and Hortichuk to go with Gagner - not Eberle . Columbus doesn't need us and no sense overpaying them or anyone else .

Marketplace for buyouts will be at an alltime high - and maybe we might be better off to enter that reduced market than risk an overpayment elsewhere .

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#21 speeds
June 02 2013, 12:44PM
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I wonder if EDM might be looking at Erixon? CLB has a bunch of LH D, he might be available, we know Howson liked him enough to acquire him once (Nash trade).

Would EDM look at the 7th for Erixon + one of CLB's other picks, if the player they want at 7 isn't available? If they are going to draft a D at 7 anyways, maybe?

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#23 speeds
June 02 2013, 12:53PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Given Erixon's history with Calgary, I'd be very shocked if Edmonton had any interest in him.

I'm not sure how much of a factor that would be to them. Yes, Erixon didn't want to sign with CAL when he had a choice, but that doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't want to play in EDM now. I don't really remember anything about him asking for a trade from CLB after they acquired him in the Nash deal.

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#24 speeds
June 02 2013, 12:55PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Really solid comment.

I don't really have any kind of read on how Columbus values Nikitin, but I completely agree he's a guy that should appeal to the Oilers.

A potential issue with Nikitin, relative to Erixon, is that Nikitin is a UFA in the summer of 2014, while Erixon isn't a UFA until 2018.

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#25 clyde
June 02 2013, 01:28PM
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Mean Machine wrote:

They may not have much interest in roster players but I think we should go after Jenner as I've stated before.

7th overall, 37th overall or Paajarvi (to replace Prospal long term perhaps) for Jenner and one of their first rounders.

From what I've heard, it may be cheaper to get Johansen than Jenner now. Apparently they are wanting to move up further than 7th in hopes of getting the big Russian. I don't think he will be there at 7.

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#26 clyde
June 02 2013, 01:31PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

All the good players that the BJ have came from fairly good drafting.......us giving up any draft picks may fill a need now but will be costly down the road.

I believe that every team in the NHL has players (given the new CBA) they no longer can afford to keep. The smart teams will be looking heavily on the compliance buyouts, and picking the best available players to bridge their needs until draft pick mature.

It's too bad our past idiotic GM gave up our third and fourth round draft picks for absolutely nothing! We could have had another potential first round draft pick ( Hemsky) but he managed to screw this up also. How much would that have helped in drafting up........say to secure a top five pick? Maybe we would be talking about moving up and taking Nichushkin right now? This kid is the next Malkin except meaner.........we do not have the draft choices available to help us move up in the draft......thanks ST!

At least you didn't win yourself out of a top 5 draft using a glorified AHL roster like the Flames did. That hurts.

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#27 clyde
June 02 2013, 01:43PM
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speeds wrote:

I'm not sure how much of a factor that would be to them. Yes, Erixon didn't want to sign with CAL when he had a choice, but that doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't want to play in EDM now. I don't really remember anything about him asking for a trade from CLB after they acquired him in the Nash deal.

His refusal to sign in Calgary was mostly due to the fact that Calgary had a history of bringing in vets rather than playing youth. He felt ready to play. The second factor was he wanted to play where his dad did. I don't think he would have a problem with a trade to Edmonton. It would be pricey though.

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#28 Walter Sobchak
June 02 2013, 02:02PM
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@DSF

Actually, Dubinsky primarily played LW last season iirc

He would be the classic MacTavish player, one that can play wing or center, PP or PK and has a good cap hit with term.

This is who The Oilers should be after.

Umberger is soft

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#29 Walter Sobchak
June 02 2013, 02:04PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

I strongly suspect that the chance of dumping Umberger or Wisniewski's contract would appeal to the Jackets. Both have been mentioned as potential buyout/trade candidates over the past year in the press there.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if something along the lines of Hemsky for Umberger appealed to both teams.

Also, for a non-cap team like CBJ, Horcoff at $3.5 million/year in actual salary might appeal, too.

I say Dubinsky, Umberger is not a MacTavish type player.

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#30 15w40
June 02 2013, 02:06PM
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@OilClog

Other than Ryan Johansen's cup of coffee in the NHL, I would argue he doesn't have much more value than Jenner.

Either player could be a target IMHO

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#31 DSF
June 02 2013, 02:07PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Actually, Dubinsky primarily played LW last season iirc

He would be the classic MacTavish player, one that can play wing or center, PP or PK and has a good cap hit with term.

This is who The Oilers should be after.

Umberger is soft

Agree completely.

He would be a perfect fit as #2LW and, at 27 is a much better fit for the Oiler group.

Question is, what would the Oilers need to do to acquire him?

Just noticed he took 439 face-offs in only 29GP last season and managed to win 58.3 percent of them.

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#32 Quicksilver ballet
June 02 2013, 02:08PM
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Edmonton should sit tight and prevent a Wisniewsky type of mistake the Jackets made. They'll be saddled with that deal for most of the next 5 yrs. Be patient and see what happens this season with Klefbom, Belov and Marincin. A plan B move like a Streit,Yandle or (insert name here) could become an awful burden, sooner rather than later if one or even two of these 3 kids show they belong this yr.

Unless the Oilers find a way to do business with Poile on the much talked about #6, there's no way any of the fab 5 are involved/ going anywhere. Maybe with another boatload of patience, it'll be most cost effective longer term. After 7 yrs of suckage, what's another couple seasons waiting for the Oilers to grow their own top pairing blueliners. It certainly appears to be the only option.

Still believe in that Johansen kid, sooner or later that kid will start to blossom. He's probably the only reason to talk to the Jackets as far as the Oil are concerned. A lot of good those first rounders are going to be for Columbus, those selections have to all be 2-4 yrs away, if they pan out at all.

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#33 Walter Sobchak
June 02 2013, 02:17PM
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DSF wrote:

Agree completely.

He would be a perfect fit as #2LW and, at 27 is a much better fit for the Oiler group.

Question is, what would the Oilers need to do to acquire him?

Just noticed he took 439 face-offs in only 29GP last season and managed to win 58.3 percent of them.

A million dollar question.

CBJ has depth down the middle, they have a very respectable back end.

Goal and defensive forwards would be my guess.

Could a package work?

Would be good to know which one of the reports out of CBJ last year of Dubinsky wanting out or if CBJ were the ones shoppiing him

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#34 geno
June 02 2013, 02:35PM
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Anisimov and Tyutin'd also be nice acquisitions :D

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#35 NewAgeSys
June 02 2013, 02:51PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

I strongly suspect that the chance of dumping Umberger or Wisniewski's contract would appeal to the Jackets. Both have been mentioned as potential buyout/trade candidates over the past year in the press there.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if something along the lines of Hemsky for Umberger appealed to both teams.

Also, for a non-cap team like CBJ, Horcoff at $3.5 million/year in actual salary might appeal, too.

Hemmer for Umberger looks like the most likely scenario.

But Hemskys zone entry ability has to be replaced if we move him,he isnt the area we need to upgrade size from,his systemic value is to high.I wouldnt trade him for anything less than he is,an elite zone entry specialist,with above average offense when healthy.He is a true puck mule and for a team like the Nucks he is a gem they would overpay to get t heir hands on,he could take them over the top.

Will Umberger at 35 be able to keep up with our core hitting their own early primes?Will he be able to keep up for even two years with our roster?I am thinking a 27 year old today peaks at 31 just when we need him there and an Umberger on the same timeline is fighting the onset of chronic injuries and old man time as a big heavy man at 35 .

Its a fine line but we can use Umberger,if we are looking to insert him on the 3rd line where Hemsky belongs,then he is a perfect workhorse to lug us into the playoffs and in that dynamic he is not a centerpiece so we can absorb any injury downtime easily by rotating guys in the bottom 6.And we can bring his size into the top 6 if we need to.

The problem is the zone entry capability we lose,Hemmer is a sure thing and mkes our 3rd line a championship one by lugging the puck into the o-zone consistantly and dominating the 3rd line game dynamic with offensive pressure for 60 mins,I WOULDNT trade hemmer.Unless we also make another move and add a zone entry specialist to the 3rd line as well as Umberger.we want to dominate 3rd line minutes and hemsky can do that right now and for another four years or more if we let him just specialise on our 3rd line as he has always done,he will find he scores just as many goals from there with his style,and wins us more games by breaking opponents from that position.He will feast on 3rd line opposition like never before over 82 games.

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#36 DSF
June 02 2013, 02:58PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Edmonton should sit tight and prevent a Wisniewsky type of mistake the Jackets made. They'll be saddled with that deal for most of the next 5 yrs. Be patient and see what happens this season with Klefbom, Belov and Marincin. A plan B move like a Streit,Yandle or (insert name here) could become an awful burden, sooner rather than later if one or even two of these 3 kids show they belong this yr.

Unless the Oilers find a way to do business with Poile on the much talked about #6, there's no way any of the fab 5 are involved/ going anywhere. Maybe with another boatload of patience, it'll be most cost effective longer term. After 7 yrs of suckage, what's another couple seasons waiting for the Oilers to grow their own top pairing blueliners. It certainly appears to be the only option.

Still believe in that Johansen kid, sooner or later that kid will start to blossom. He's probably the only reason to talk to the Jackets as far as the Oil are concerned. A lot of good those first rounders are going to be for Columbus, those selections have to all be 2-4 yrs away, if they pan out at all.

I would expect Davidson and Jarmo to be very active at the draft.

They have the D depth and draft bullets to move up.

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#37 Quicksilver ballet
June 02 2013, 03:03PM
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DSF wrote:

I would expect Davidson and Jarmo to be very active at the draft.

They have the D depth and draft bullets to move up.

7th and Paajarvi for Ryan Murray?*

*wakes from dream.

Pooling some assets for MacKinnon perhaps?

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#38 clyde
June 02 2013, 03:31PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

Hemmer for Umberger looks like the most likely scenario.

But Hemskys zone entry ability has to be replaced if we move him,he isnt the area we need to upgrade size from,his systemic value is to high.I wouldnt trade him for anything less than he is,an elite zone entry specialist,with above average offense when healthy.He is a true puck mule and for a team like the Nucks he is a gem they would overpay to get t heir hands on,he could take them over the top.

Will Umberger at 35 be able to keep up with our core hitting their own early primes?Will he be able to keep up for even two years with our roster?I am thinking a 27 year old today peaks at 31 just when we need him there and an Umberger on the same timeline is fighting the onset of chronic injuries and old man time as a big heavy man at 35 .

Its a fine line but we can use Umberger,if we are looking to insert him on the 3rd line where Hemsky belongs,then he is a perfect workhorse to lug us into the playoffs and in that dynamic he is not a centerpiece so we can absorb any injury downtime easily by rotating guys in the bottom 6.And we can bring his size into the top 6 if we need to.

The problem is the zone entry capability we lose,Hemmer is a sure thing and mkes our 3rd line a championship one by lugging the puck into the o-zone consistantly and dominating the 3rd line game dynamic with offensive pressure for 60 mins,I WOULDNT trade hemmer.Unless we also make another move and add a zone entry specialist to the 3rd line as well as Umberger.we want to dominate 3rd line minutes and hemsky can do that right now and for another four years or more if we let him just specialise on our 3rd line as he has always done,he will find he scores just as many goals from there with his style,and wins us more games by breaking opponents from that position.He will feast on 3rd line opposition like never before over 82 games.

As much as I am not a Hemsky fan, he is one of the best at driving the def off that blueline when he is motivated and you wonder how much that would be missed? Eberle shows capabilities to pick up the slack there.

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#39 striker777
June 02 2013, 03:32PM
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Wasn't Nikitin playing with Beloved in the KHL during this lockout and Belov had a career year?

Good article, as there are so many trade possibilities with CLB. However, trading away #7 pick if Nichushkin is still available, is totally unacceptable.

I like Paajarvi to CLB for their #27 and Johansen or Jenner.

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#40 MKE
June 02 2013, 04:44PM
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The blue jackets need more elite level talent. That's why they made the move for Gaborik.

Nikitin would help Belov make a smooth transition.

I'm a little worried Johansen could be another Brule waiting too happen.

If it was me I would love to have Mark Letestu playing in my bottom six.

I would also rather have someone like Dalton Prout over Tim Erixon. But that's just me.

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#41 MKE
June 02 2013, 04:47PM
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@striker777

Didn't his career year continue after Nikitin left..

Not a knock on Nikitin because I like him. Just saying. Belov seemed to be doing very well even after Nikitin left.

Im hoping we have a real gem in Belov

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#42 MKE
June 02 2013, 04:53PM
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If I was the Blue Jackets I would be asking the Oilers to pay more for Nikitin.

With the Belov signing it would be clear Nikitin's value would be higher to Edmonton then most.

If it was me, I really don't want to give up any of the fab 4 forwards unless we are getting a legit top 2 defenceman.

But the last time we saw a hockey trade like that was Hossa for Heatly

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#43 Oiler Al
June 02 2013, 05:14PM
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Forget Umberger, too old, and to expensive for what the Oilers are building.

I would target Bickell from the Hawks. I think is value just went up after the play offs, but not sure what Chicago would offer for resign.?

His current Salary is under a million dollars. This is exactly the kind of LW the team needs.

He's a UFA at season end... I'd offer him $3 million per season.

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#44 Quicksilver ballet
June 02 2013, 05:20PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

I find that he uses a continuous system of dynamic and inversely intuitive systemic verses of prose combined with a sentence gapping structure in a centerpiece of defensive dynamic anti-intuitive player movement purple horse tree rain.

I have tried to use my optical receptors to scan and peruse a shifting dynamically updating screen on which words are typed and appear to instantly systemize hard hat retaining wall players shifting gap dynamic INTUITIVE. Opposing an opposite structure of DYNAMIC and SYSTEM opposition. The length of the structure of gapped wordage that NewAgeSys continually APPEARS to try to intelligently and intuitively dynamic system play type in a MONKEY rookie. haha

But they are waiting too long before GAPPING a systemic DYNAMIC anti-intuitive specialist of verbage and word-playing intelligent sentence typing of antidiestablishmentarianism abundance to type and continually system the RK PP on the FIRST LINE actually maybe means a DEFENSE and DYNAMIC system of systemnes systemic.

If I CAPITALIZE dynamic wordage and verbose BOLD you can understand an Occasional point of words that can BE SEEN on a screen. A point of rookies playing on a DYNAMIC playoff contender line of the 3rd degree of my system and gap a dynamically flower monkey. And a word count of changing OILERS on a line of system OFFENSE with an offensive upstart on a first line of sentence binder.

You sir, are a word wizard on the grandest of scales. Not one word out of place and it all made sense.

Well done, eh.

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#45 madjam
June 02 2013, 05:22PM
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I wouldn't give you a hamburger for Umberger - too old for our squad . The only hope is for R.Murray and why bother when we could have Nurse or Ristolainen this year ? I'd prefer to focus on Jets .

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#46 Walter Sobchak
June 02 2013, 05:33PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Forget Umberger, too old, and to expensive for what the Oilers are building.

I would target Bickell from the Hawks. I think is value just went up after the play offs, but not sure what Chicago would offer for resign.?

His current Salary is under a million dollars. This is exactly the kind of LW the team needs.

He's a UFA at season end... I'd offer him $3 million per season.

Ya..... Bickell signed an extension earlier today.

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#47 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
June 02 2013, 05:41PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

I find that he uses a continuous system of dynamic and inversely intuitive systemic verses of prose combined with a sentence gapping structure in a centerpiece of defensive dynamic anti-intuitive player movement purple horse tree rain.

I have tried to use my optical receptors to scan and peruse a shifting dynamically updating screen on which words are typed and appear to instantly systemize hard hat retaining wall players shifting gap dynamic INTUITIVE. Opposing an opposite structure of DYNAMIC and SYSTEM opposition. The length of the structure of gapped wordage that NewAgeSys continually APPEARS to try to intelligently and intuitively dynamic system play type in a MONKEY rookie. haha

But they are waiting too long before GAPPING a systemic DYNAMIC anti-intuitive specialist of verbage and word-playing intelligent sentence typing of antidiestablishmentarianism abundance to type and continually system the RK PP on the FIRST LINE actually maybe means a DEFENSE and DYNAMIC system of systemnes systemic.

If I CAPITALIZE dynamic wordage and verbose BOLD you can understand an Occasional point of words that can BE SEEN on a screen. A point of rookies playing on a DYNAMIC playoff contender line of the 3rd degree of my system and gap a dynamically flower monkey. And a word count of changing OILERS on a line of system OFFENSE with an offensive upstart on a first line of sentence binder.

you forgot the PART about being a 5'7" dude with a bit of a weight problem but STILL somehow being able to rival the top NFL prospects in terms of average 40 yard dash time.

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#48 mlcsellil
June 02 2013, 06:52PM
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Oilcan wrote:

Does anyone else think NewAgeSys is just using a hockey thesaurus to make sentences to try and prove a point.

Could have some valid points but I find myself skipping over the 500 page novel with incoherent sentences for better comments.

I'm not sure who the hell he's trying to impress, but that audience isn't here on the Nation.

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#49 otter2233
June 02 2013, 07:21PM
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@Walter Sobchak

Where did you see Bickell signed? Just wondering what terms were...

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#50 misfit
June 02 2013, 07:24PM
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The other item that lines up the Oilers and BJs nicely as trade partners is Columbus' league-worst powerplay, and the likely availablity of Ales Hemsky (a known Blue Jacket killer, though that's probably lesser known factor with current Columbus management).

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