MOCK!

Lowetide
June 24 2013 01:20PM

I don't do mock drafts, but with this year's edition of the draft full of more plot twists than a Whodunit, I thought it might be fun. Hope you enjoy it!

TOP 5

  • Colorado at #1: L Jonathan Drouin. Drouin's outstanding season is too difficult to ignore. Does more than anyone else to contribute to goals, the most difficult thing to do in the game. I think he is a special offensive player.
  • Florida at #2: C Nathan MacKinnon. Absolutely a plug and play, he should step in immediately and should be an early Calder favorite.Could certainly go number one overall. 
  • Tampa Bay at #3: D Seth Jones. Incredible that he could fall this far, and the Lightning would have to consider themselves extremely fortunate to land a franchise defenseman at this number. If the two Q players do go off the board as I've described, suspect the Lightning will receive a lot of offers for this selection.
  • Nashville at #4: C Sasha Barkov: This is the selection I'm most comfortable with in the top 5. Nashville needs a franchise C and Barkov is a plug and play.
  • Carolina at #5: L Valeri Nichushkin. The big Russian had an enormous impact on the draft at this year's NHL combine. I think he has a huge impact on the Oilers selection at #7.

FIVE THROUGH TEN

  • Calgary at #6: C Elias Lindholm. Lindholm has an impressive resume and could come to the NHL next season. Among the best offensive players available in this year's draft.
  • Edmonton at #7: C Sean Monahan. Outstanding 2-way center with enough offense to be considered a strong 2line C candidate when he arrives in the NHL. This is a 'perfect fit' for Edmonton.
  • Buffalo at #8: D Darnell Nurse: If Monahan isn't there, I expect the Oilers to take Nurse or deal down. Buffalo takes Nurse and he could come quickly to the NHL.
  • New Jersey at #9 D Rasmus Ristolainen:  A nice range of skills, could play sooner than later. NJD will like the fact that he has played in a league against men and flourished. 
  • Dallas at #10: C Curtis Lazar: Another perfect match for team and player. Lazar impresses with spirited play and attention to defensive detail, and is tough to play against. The offense helps too.

ELEVEN THROUGH TWENTY

  • Philadelphia at #11: C Fred Gauthier. Perfect Flyer selection. Don't worry, Oilers will have their chance to get him when Holmgren decides to trade good players again.
  • Phoenix at #12: C Hunter Shinkaruk: Phoenix takes the best pure offensive player remaining in the draft. They'll have to wait a couple of years (probably) but he should impact the offense on arrival.
  • Winnipeg at #13: C Bo Horvat. Winnipeg stays where they are and get an outstanding center who probably has enough offense to play on the second line when he arrives as an NHL player. Great value.
  • Columbus at #14: C Max Domi. Solid offense and a determined player, I do think his draft number suffered a little because of his Memorial Cup performance.
  • New York Islanders at #15: L Anthony Mantha. Scored 50 goals in the QMJHL this past season, and there is some talk he is NHL ready. The Islanders have to like the combination.
  • Buffalo at #16: C Alex Wennberg. Taking a defenseman in the top 10 allows the Sabres to reach a little for this lanky Swede who has a nice range of skills.
  • Ottawa at #17: L Kerby Rychel. A trending prospect, skilled and with a mean streak. Ottawa passes on some nice defensive options to take him, reaching a little.
  • Detroit at #18: D Ryan Pulock. A nice selection at this number, Pulock can do it all and has a plus shot. Best of all, the Red Wings will be very patient with him.
  • Columbus at #19: D Josh Morrissey. Fast, skilled and a player who impressed everyone with his season.
  • San Jose at #20: C Nicolas Petan. Small but very skilled. His offensive potential gets him here.

TWENTY-ONE THROUGH THIRTY

  • Toronto at #21: D Nikita Zadorov. Big Russian defender falls with the other blue in this draft, but represents solid value for the Leafs at this number.
  • Calgary Flames at #22: G Zachary Fucale. The Flames start the march of masked men in this draft by taking the highest ranked G on Craig Button's board.
  • Washington Capitals at #23: L Adam Erne. Skill winger has some toughness, should cover this bet.
  • Vancouver Canucks at #24: C JT Compher. Skill C is also an agitator.
  • Montreal at #25: C Laurent Daupin. Impressive skill, maybe a slight reach.
  • Anaheim at #26: L Artturi Lehkonen. Undersized skill winger with terrific potential.
  • Columbus at #27: D Mirco Mueller. Smart defender with plenty of skill.
  • Calgary at #28: D Madison Bowey. Terrific skater, good value at this number.
  • Dallas at #29: R Valentin Zykov. Physical skill player, he's the return for Jaromir Jagr. Quality NHL prosect.
  • Chicago at #30: C Ryan Hartman: Physical player, tough to play against.

As for the Oilers, I think they could pick 4th, 7th, 10th, 13th or trade out of the first round altogether. Completely unpredictable. What a week!

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#51 FSD
June 24 2013, 05:28PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

Nashville would want more they would take Eberle.

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#52 FSD
June 24 2013, 05:34PM
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7th + Eberle for Barkov + ?

That would do it

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#53 Tyguycarguy
June 24 2013, 05:38PM
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After watching the feature on Nurse I don't care about need this kid is going to be great!!!

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#54 Jerod
June 24 2013, 05:40PM
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Tyguycarguy wrote:

After watching the feature on Nurse I don't care about need this kid is going to be great!!!

I would guess Oilers ranking of players

1. Barkov

2. Monahan

3. Nurse

4. Lindholm

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#55 madjam
June 24 2013, 05:45PM
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First off -Buffalo wants Ristolainen to go with Armia . Winn. wants Pulock leaving Zadorov for Philly .

Order : MacKinnon , Jones , Nicushkin, Drouin , Barkov , Lindholm goes to Flames , Buff from Edmonton -Ristolainen , Edm. from Buff. and 3rd round pick - Nurse , Monohan ,M.Domi, Zadorov , Shinkarouk , Pulock ,Lazar , A.Wennberg , Horvat , F.Gauthier , J.Morrisey ,K.Rychel , A.Erne , R. Hartman , N.Petan (Flames) , Compher , Zykov , A.Mantha , Fucale , A.Lehtonen , Bowey (Flames) , A.Slepychev, Bjorkstrand ,

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#56 PutzStew
June 24 2013, 05:47PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Lindholm projects as a center and a better offensive center.

If he's so good why doesn't Edmonton want him????

I can't see Calgary leaving Monahan there. Now if someone grabs a Dman then Edmonton has a chance but Monahan will be taken before Linholm.

Your would be what is known as dreaming Lowtide.

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#57 TayLordBalls
June 24 2013, 05:48PM
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Barkov shoots left - he is of no use to the oilers.

besides, that pick is going to another team in trade.

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#59 Quicksilver ballet
June 24 2013, 05:55PM
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@Oilcan

thanks guys.

There's some grey area in what we all agree is a top 6 forward, and a top 4 defender. Is Gagner a legitimate 2nd line center with the few deficiencies in his game? Not so sure.

As it sits today, we're not sure if Hopkins is going to be that 2nd line center d specialist. I'm more comfortable with a 1A and 1B centerman rather than a definite in both cases. Barkov could be that 1A or 1B.

What about Gagner and Hemsky, in return for that 4th selection? Barkov at 4, and Nurse at 7.

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#60 Quicksilver ballet
June 24 2013, 06:01PM
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@FSD

If MacKinnon was in play i'd consider offering Eberle.

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#61 FSD
June 24 2013, 06:09PM
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Perhaps Sam Gagner + 37th pick + 7th pick for Barkov

Nashville has no second rd pick.

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#62 Taylor Gang
June 24 2013, 06:12PM
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I don't think it will cost that much to move up the two spots required to get Barkov. I fully expect Nichushkin to be drafted at #3, bumping Drouin down to #4 and Barkov to #5. If Nichushkin doesn't get taken, then Nichushkin would be cool to have too. Perhaps the #7 and Nick Schultz could do it

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#63 Taylor Gang
June 24 2013, 06:12PM
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FSD wrote:

Perhaps Sam Gagner + 37th pick + 7th pick for Barkov

Nashville has no second rd pick.

Massive overpay

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#64 madjam
June 24 2013, 06:18PM
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PutzStew wrote:

If he's so good why doesn't Edmonton want him????

I can't see Calgary leaving Monahan there. Now if someone grabs a Dman then Edmonton has a chance but Monahan will be taken before Linholm.

Your would be what is known as dreaming Lowtide.

Lindholm goes before Monohan -BOOK IT !

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#65 FSD
June 24 2013, 06:19PM
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@Taylor Gang

Then SG + 7th + 56th for Barkov

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#66 PutzStew
June 24 2013, 06:38PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Would Gagner along with the 7th, in exchange for the 4th (Barkov) be out of line LT?

Think I would do that if possible.

Two reasons why this is not happening.

1) Edmonton is in a bind with Gagner's Contract. How much is it gonna cost? What Term? Is he getting to FA Next year? Nashville got rid of Matthew Lombardi because they felt he was injured to much and didn't want to risk paying an injured player. They aren't going to take Gagner unless he is signed to a longer term at a decent value.

2) Look at the 2003 Draft, since it is being compared to this one. With the exception of Zherdev, would you want to be the GM that traded any of the top 7 picks for Gagner?

3) Gagner will be a free agent after arbitration anyways. Teams can bid on his services then.

If Edmonton wants the number 4 pick it's gonna cost and Eberle, RHN, J.Shultz or Yak. well unless Edmonton is willing to eat half of Webers contract. Guess weirder things have happened.

I still can't believe Edmonton took MAP in 2003. Wonder how they got to this point.

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#67 PutzStew
June 24 2013, 06:41PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

thanks guys.

There's some grey area in what we all agree is a top 6 forward, and a top 4 defender. Is Gagner a legitimate 2nd line center with the few deficiencies in his game? Not so sure.

As it sits today, we're not sure if Hopkins is going to be that 2nd line center d specialist. I'm more comfortable with a 1A and 1B centerman rather than a definite in both cases. Barkov could be that 1A or 1B.

What about Gagner and Hemsky, in return for that 4th selection? Barkov at 4, and Nurse at 7.

See my above comment as to why Nashville won't do this.

Hemsky????? Really??????

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#68 Jerod
June 24 2013, 06:57PM
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It is draft week the crazy quotient increases as we get closer.

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#70 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 07:04PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Would Gagner along with the 7th, in exchange for the 4th (Barkov) be out of line LT?

Think I would do that if possible.

I probably put too high a value on prospects...... But I think you're in the right ballpark....I would be tempted to take that deal ....it would give the oilers another untouchable.... And fill a big hole that might otherwise be next to impossible to fill.... Which is why I would be willing to overpay....

But given all the signals they a re putting out their.... loving Gagner..... wanting to improve the roster immediately etc.... I'm pretty sure theOilers don't do this deal....

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#71 DSF
June 24 2013, 07:12PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

I probably put too high a value on prospects...... But I think you're in the right ballpark....I would be tempted to take that deal ....it would give the oilers another untouchable.... And fill a big hole that might otherwise be next to impossible to fill.... Which is why I would be willing to overpay....

But given all the signals they a re putting out their.... loving Gagner..... wanting to improve the roster immediately etc.... I'm pretty sure theOilers don't do this deal....

Neither would Nashville.

Barkov is going to be a better player than Gagner right out of the box.

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#72 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 07:22PM
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Oilcan wrote:

I think that is a massive overpayment and I am not even a huge Gagner supporter. I would rather see Gagner get traded for a top 4 dman who is already proven. The Oilers need a little different makeup but they need to start competing now, this trade sets them back. I would even be willing to trade Gagner for a Bogosion and #7 for Kulikov. Knocks everyone on the D down a peg and it becomes an area of strength I would think Schultz SR could get a reliable 3rd line player in return. I think the #2 Center on the Oilers might be enticing for some of the free agent centers out there.

I think defense was the biggest issue last year and improving that would bump up the goals per game number even without major changes at forward.

I'd take Bogosian and Kulikov for Gagner and the 7th.....but that doesn't seem realistic......

Do you have a more realistic scenario..... Or an alternative 7th + what to move up and get Barkov?

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#73 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 07:30PM
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DSF wrote:

Neither would Nashville.

Barkov is going to be a better player than Gagner right out of the box.

I tend to agree...... So other than the obvious and easy......"you have to give up one of the top five kids"......being creative....what would you offer Nashville if your goal was to get that 4th overall pick?

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#74 k
June 24 2013, 07:39PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Would Gagner along with the 7th, in exchange for the 4th (Barkov) be out of line LT?

Think I would do that if possible.

Can't see Nashville doing that deal. Gags is an Oiler killer

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#75 DSF
June 24 2013, 08:06PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

I tend to agree...... So other than the obvious and easy......"you have to give up one of the top five kids"......being creative....what would you offer Nashville if your goal was to get that 4th overall pick?

Other than the Oilers pick + Eberle. I doubt the Preds move that pick.

The Oilers don't have anything else.

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#76 PutzStew
June 24 2013, 08:07PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

I tend to agree...... So other than the obvious and easy......"you have to give up one of the top five kids"......being creative....what would you offer Nashville if your goal was to get that 4th overall pick?

You can Offer Nashville what ever you want. What they are willing to except in trade is going to have to start with one of the following names...Eberle, RNH, or J. Shultz.

They might ask for Hall or Yak but I'm sure they are smart enough to know that's like Edmonton starting the deal with the names Hemsky or Gagner. No one will take it seriously.

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#77 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 08:14PM
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DSF wrote:

Other than the Oilers pick + Eberle. I doubt the Preds move that pick.

The Oilers don't have anything else.

PRETEND your the GM and the owner has said get Barkov or your fired and you can't offer any of the top 5 kids...

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#78 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 08:17PM
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TayLordBalls wrote:

you guys are out of touch -

no way you give up a young Gagner, who is a proven 2nd line center, for an unproven 17 year old draft pick that may be on OKC for a couple of years.

Get a grip!

Gagner is an oiler. That draft pick is trade bate for more experience, not less.

This is a chat site.....we're trying to figure out WHAT it would take to move up and get Barkov......DON'T tell us what you WOULDN'T do....what would you propose to move up and get Barkov......without touching the core 5 ?

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#79 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 08:21PM
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PutzStew wrote:

You can Offer Nashville what ever you want. What they are willing to except in trade is going to have to start with one of the following names...Eberle, RNH, or J. Shultz.

They might ask for Hall or Yak but I'm sure they are smart enough to know that's like Edmonton starting the deal with the names Hemsky or Gagner. No one will take it seriously.

.....you're saying that the 7th + Gagner + Klefbomb wouldn't get it done? Of course it would....

Of course I wouldn't overpay like that but the question is

what would it TAKE for Nashville to do the deal without us giving up one of the fab five?

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#80 horndog77
June 24 2013, 08:29PM
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Pretty sure Nashville will keep there pick. Edmonton would have to pay a pretty big price to move up three spots. Edmontons 7th + there first second round pick and a blue chip prospect. I'm not sure if that would be enough. Point is that's a lot to give up with such a strong draft class. I'm all in favor for Sasha, but this team lacks picks already in this draft.

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#81 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 08:32PM
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horndog77 wrote:

Pretty sure Nashville will keep there pick. Edmonton would have to pay a pretty big price to move up three spots. Edmontons 7th + there first second round pick and a blue chip prospect. I'm not sure if that would be enough. Point is that's a lot to give up with such a strong draft class. I'm all in favor for Sasha, but this team lacks picks already in this draft.

I'd give up the 7th and the 37th....so then the question becomes which prospect.....

Marincin?

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#82 Darrell
June 24 2013, 08:34PM
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DSF wrote:

Neither would Nashville.

Barkov is going to be a better player than Gagner right out of the box.

How the hell do you know that DSF ? Your back to tiy BS and suggest you check out CanucksvArmy as they just hired the biggest joke in the NHL to run a failed franchise that has never won f-all ..... Dick !

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#83 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 08:35PM
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People....this isn't for real.....just take a stab at it......it doesn't cost anything and we may gain some better insight into how much a deal like this might cost the Oilers...

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#84 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 08:37PM
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The 7th. 37th. And Marincin? Too much? Not enough?

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#85 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 08:39PM
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Darrell wrote:

How the hell do you know that DSF ? Your back to tiy BS and suggest you check out CanucksvArmy as they just hired the biggest joke in the NHL to run a failed franchise that has never won f-all ..... Dick !

How did you know the D stands for Dick? Have you met Richard?

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#86 OilClog
June 24 2013, 09:09PM
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Getting a player at Monahan or Nurse's level at the number 7.. Also picking up a Hemsky or Horcoff, with Omark. Isn't a loss for Tampa, Nashville, or Carolina. Hemsky feeding Stamkos, could be beauty. IMO

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#87 horndog77
June 24 2013, 09:10PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

I'd give up the 7th and the 37th....so then the question becomes which prospect.....

Marincin?

Sure, throw in Linus for good measure!

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#88 TayLordBalls
June 24 2013, 09:16PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

This is a chat site.....we're trying to figure out WHAT it would take to move up and get Barkov......DON'T tell us what you WOULDN'T do....what would you propose to move up and get Barkov......without touching the core 5 ?

No!

they don't need draft picks - they need experience.

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#89 madjam
June 24 2013, 09:18PM
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Seguin and Boston's 29th , for Hemsky and our 7th and 55th .

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#90 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 09:28PM
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Seasons Over.......Let the buyouts and the trades begin!!!!!!

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#91 Oilcan
June 24 2013, 09:38PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

I'd take Bogosian and Kulikov for Gagner and the 7th.....but that doesn't seem realistic......

Do you have a more realistic scenario..... Or an alternative 7th + what to move up and get Barkov?

I don't know if they are too unrealistic, I could see Florida doing the deal to get two top ten picks could give them two great forwards. I don't know if Winnipeg does the trade but it is a good fit, the jets have buf and enstrom so they aren't thin on the blue and trouba coming up, but not deep at C for scoring threats. Both are RFA.

I don't know about moving up, I would absolutely love barkov more then anyone in this draft for the oil, but I just don't see Nashville giving it up for #7 and other picks and I don't think the oilers would be wise to trade any core roster player with #7 for it. If its a package it could get interesting.

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#92 Rondo
June 24 2013, 09:38PM
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http://ohlprospects.blogspot.ca/2013/06/final-mediascout-top-10-for-2013.html

Darnell Nurse

The Scoop: With his size, skating ability, and two way capabilities, Nurse has an incredibly high ceiling. He has been terrific internationally for Canada and was also the OHL's Scholastic Player of the Year, which points to his maturity. Defenseman like him do not grow on trees, especially with his athletic bloodlines and background (father was a CFL'er). It should come as no shock that votes seem to be split as to whether Nurse or Sean Monahan is the top OHL player available this year. Comments: "My favorite OHL prospect as his potential going forward is through the roof. He is a strong physical player that is able to throw his weight around and make a big impact despite still being on the wiry side. Just wait until he gains another thirty pounds of muscle, with the aggressiveness and meanness he exhibits, he could be a true monster. Nurse skates very well for his size and has some intriguing offensive tools to continue developing as he becomes that strong two-way presence. An injury to his finger, picked up towards the end of the year, left him with a torn tendon that had to be surgically repaired causing him to miss the U18’s in Sochi, Russia and the NHL Combine fitness testing. That alone speaks volumes to how determined and gritty this kid is, as his play did not suffer one bit even with a difficult injury like this to play through. I feel he has top pairing potential with NHL All-Star upside." - Dan Stewart

"Highly athletic and extremely competitive, Nurse would have captained Team Canada U18 World Championship team had it not been for a ruptured finger tendon. Stepped up his game this season leaps in bounds especially in the absence of Sproul and Miller who battled injuries this year. Master of the poke check as he does a great job getting into shooting and passing lanes. Can become over zealous in his own zone and needs to allow the play to come to him, nonetheless this enthusiasm is also viewed as a strength as he does not give the opposition an inch to operate with down low. Passing skills needs some improvement as he had a tendency to rush the puck up and break out of the zone on his own failing (at times) to connect on his first passes. Top end speed needs an upgrade however he has tremendous lateral agility and is able to pivot effortlessly to stay with the play. Nurse has all the capabilities of being a stout shut down defender and has already exhibited that quality in the OHL as he was is often pitted against other team’s best forwards including defending against Nail Yakupov in his rookie season. Once Nurse fills out, he will be very difficult to play against at the pro level." - David Burstyn

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#93 Oilfan5
June 24 2013, 09:41PM
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What is the point of moving up into the top 5? I think to trade down and gain a player (preferably big, physical winger/center) would be much more advantageous. Isn't MacT's whole philosophy to put together a team that can win now and down the road? Trading the 7th, 37th, etc. to move into the top 4 just means we are going to have another unproven rookie who shouldnt even play for the oil next year.

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#94 DSF
June 24 2013, 09:44PM
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boston in 5 hey DSF, wrong as usual. Im sure some how youll say you saw this coming, cant wait to hear you back track

Missed it by THAT much.

Could have gone either way.

Two great teams.

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#95 Quicksilver ballet
June 24 2013, 09:45PM
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It's reasoning like many have mentioned here that leads me to believe not much at all will happen this summer. Still far too few bargaining chips to throw around to accomplish moves such as this.

If Gagner is about to become one of those expensive long term contracts, he could open himself up to some Hemsky/Horcoff type criticism in the near future. Hall is the best Oiler player by a wide margin, having Sam anywhere near that 5.5 or 6 sends a difficult message throughout the ranks.

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#96 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 09:49PM
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Oilcan wrote:

I don't know if they are too unrealistic, I could see Florida doing the deal to get two top ten picks could give them two great forwards. I don't know if Winnipeg does the trade but it is a good fit, the jets have buf and enstrom so they aren't thin on the blue and trouba coming up, but not deep at C for scoring threats. Both are RFA.

I don't know about moving up, I would absolutely love barkov more then anyone in this draft for the oil, but I just don't see Nashville giving it up for #7 and other picks and I don't think the oilers would be wise to trade any core roster player with #7 for it. If its a package it could get interesting.

I would be very happy if your proposal turned into a deal.....

As for part two, would you move the 7th. 37th and Marincin to get Barkov ?

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#97 Randaman
June 24 2013, 09:49PM
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madjam wrote:

Seguin and Boston's 29th , for Hemsky and our 7th and 55th .

Now that is a deal I would make but you might have to add another prospect. Marcinin? Overpay? Maybe but Seguin and Hall together would be lights out for a lot of years

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#98 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 24 2013, 09:53PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

It's reasoning like many have mentioned here that leads me to believe not much at all will happen this summer. Still far too few bargaining chips to throw around to accomplish moves such as this.

If Gagner is about to become one of those expensive long term contracts, he could open himself up to some Hemsky/Horcoff type criticism in the near future. Hall is the best Oiler player by a wide margin, having Sam anywhere near that 5.5 or 6 sends a difficult message throughout the ranks.

I agree about Gagner..... I also hope I turn out to be very wrong....which by the way happens more often than I care to admit.

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#99 Quicksilver ballet
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madjam wrote:

Seguin and Boston's 29th , for Hemsky and our 7th and 55th .

Winner winner chicken dinner!

That would allow Boston to possibly keep their Hortons,Ferences,Rasks and forgo the Lucic trade possibility we've heard of in recent weeks.

Hemsky or Gags, hell whoever they wanted that isn't bolted to the floor.

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#100 Quicksilver ballet
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

I agree about Gagner..... I also hope I turn out to be very wrong....which by the way happens more often than I care to admit.

You're not giving yourself enough credit. Even I know being wrong is usually a good thing.

Wish we were wrong more often than we already are.

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