EAKINS IN AS OILERS HEAD COACH?

Wanye
June 08 2013 03:36PM

Watching Twitter melt on this sunny Saturday afternoon in anticipation of a 4 PM press conference where the Oilers are expected to announce Ralph Krueger will be relieved of his duties we can't help but remember that a certain Jason "JG" Gregor wrote a long article over a year ago that Dallas Eakins would be a good choice as Head Coach of the squad and had an interview with the man himself.

That interview is reposted here whilst we all get excited and tweet speculation. The original article is here.

I caught up with Eakins and got his thoughts on the Marlies, coaching philosophies and  learned that Roger Neilson had the biggest influence on his coaching career.

JG: You played in Toronto, you've been around the pressure. How is it as a coach in a market where you see a fan base that loves the pro team, the Leafs, but doesn't pay as much attention to the Marlies. Is that kind of a mental thing you have to work over with your young guys to have them contain a positive frame of mind wondering, how come we don't have 10 or 12,000 fans every night?

DE: I think the players maybe see it, but I think they fully understand it. They understand that number one; first and foremost, this is a Leaf town. And if they need to play in front of 20,000 people every night, then they need to take a little bit more serious role in their development, get better, so they can get out of the league that I'm coaching in right now.

I don't necessarily buy into the "The people don't care about the Marlies." I think we've got great interest that hasn't translated, maybe, into people in the seats, but everybody is watching and keeping track, especially of our young players' progress. When there's an injury or somebody not playing up top, the conversation quickly goes to the Marlies, and who is going to be next. I like flying under the radar here, and I also love the City's passion for the game. I love the pressure that comes with coaching the Leafs. I was an assistant coach there; and I absolutely enjoyed every day of going in, even when things were tough. But, hey, the city cares. They're passionate about the game, and they want to win.

JG: A lot of people tell me, you don't know how to really be a head coach when you're a not one. Whether it's the Western League, the American League, or what have you. Was that why you went to the Marlies, because you wanted to show people you could run everything and be an NHL head coach someday?

DE: Well, I think deep down inside you don't say what you think you're best at. I worked for Paul Maurice when I was with the Leafs; and he taught me so, so much. You know, if you would have asked me before, I would have told you right away: Hey, I could coach an American League Team right now. I don't need any experience. I've played long enough. I understand what it takes. And I was totally wrong. Looking back at being an assistant coach, I think I did a real good job for Paul; but now being a head coach, I firmly know that I'm a much better head coach than I ever was an assistant. I think it's my personality. I think it's one of these things where I want things done my way, and that's it. So I think the assistant coaching helped me, but deep down inside, I think I knew I was a head guy.

JG: You mentioned that you felt you could go down and be an American League head coach tomorrow, because of your experience playing in both leagues for a long, long time. What was the biggest learning curve when you actually took over the Marlies?

DE: Well, I was lucky enough that I didn't have to go right in as a head guy. I was an assistant with the Marlies; I was two years an assistant with the Leafs and one year I was the director of player development. So when I got a shot at the head job, I firmly knew what it was going to take. I think what caught me off guard when I was an assistant coach -- even with just with the Marlies, with Paul Maurice before we moved up to the big club -- was the amount of work going on behind the scenes on how long it takes to get your video meeting ready; how long it takes to get the players' shifts together; how long it takes to get a good practice plan together; and this goes on every day.

The best job in pro hockey is to be a player. You show up and everything is done for you. All you have to do is pay attention and work hard. The coaches are there at six in the morning, and they're the last guys to leave late in the day. So there's a real time commitment.

And now, being a head guy, I think the most important thing that I found is I've got to get to know every one of these players individually. I firmly believe that I do not coach a team. I coach 23 individuals. They're all different. They all need to be handled differently when it comes to their personal goals and motivation, and then I treat them all the same when it comes to their discipline and their work ethic.

JG: You have two very good young players that have been up and down: Keith Aulie and Nazem Kadri. The goal at the American league, of course, is to win, but it's also to develop players. When you have guys who are that close ‑‑ they're in the same city ‑‑ do you think that makes the job a little bit easier when a player gets a taste of it and comes back hungrier, or do they come back and there's that disappointment stage? How do you approach that, especially somebody who went through that themselves many years ago?

DE: It's tough on the players to be up and down like that, and when they're right there knocking on the door. Their goal has always been to play in the NHL, then they get a taste, and maybe they're sent back. There's the chasing of the dream, and then the next factor comes in is the money part. The money part, there's a huge difference in what they're paid. And the thing we run into here in Toronto ‑‑ and it's probably the only downfall there is of having a team in the same market -- is that there's a little bit of embarrassment factor, and it's something I’ve got to talk to our players about all the time because I don't want them to feel embarrassed or sheepish because they've been sent down. It is part of their development process to become a full‑time guy, and you're going to have to earn your stripes in the American League.

What happens here in Toronto, any time they walk outside or they walk into a restaurant, somebody's going to ask them, “Hey, what's going on? Why are you down?” And there's not always a clear answer to that.

So the thing I do like about it is I think it puts a little bit of heat on the guys. I think they're able to push a little harder. They become a little bit more committed because they don't want to face the questions. They don't want to walk down the street going, Ah, I just got sent down. They want to walk down the street as a Toronto Maple Leaf, and I think we manage that very well here.

JG: I was looking at all the coaches you played for, and a lot of them were some of best coaches in the history of the game: Roger Neilson, Mike Keenan, Pat Quinn, Lindy Ruff was an assistant and Neilson was an assistant under Mike Keenan. When you look at all the different personalities, Keenan was a hard ass, demanded lots; Quinn could be a hard guy but was very personal; Roger Neilson was the ultimate X and O guy. Did you pay attention to the ins and outs of coaching at that point, or were you like most players and maybe not thinking about coaching?

DE: Well, what's interesting is you bring up Roger Neilson's name, and Roger was like a second father to me. I grew up with Roger Neilson. I spent a lot of time with him. We spent almost all of our summers together. He was not only a great friend, somebody I looked up to, and like I said, a second father. I learned a ton off of Roger. All the coaches I played for, I was always paying attention to what was going on. Whether it was, Iron Mike or Pat Quinn, it didn't matter who it is; I was watching what they were doing and when they played guys in different situations.


My days in the NHL, I think I was on the roster for 330, 340 games as an NHL player where I only played like 120, 125 games. I was scratched a lot. I was a journeyman guy. I always understood why I was out, and I kind of looked at it through the coach's eyes and what he was thinking, and I understood it. I think that helped me pay attention to what was going on. Even back then, I was writing down drills. I was paying attention on how they were handling player system stuff. I knew that someday I was going to use this to my advantage because I knew down the road that I thought I could be a good coach.

So I think I take a little bit from all of them. I think I'm probably a pretty good mix of a Roger Neilson who deeply cares about his players to a Mike Keenan who can be very hard on his guys. And I think I'm kind of right in the middle. My guys know that I'm 100 percent behind them. I encourage them. They know I want them to make it so badly, yet at the same time, they know not to cross the line with me. I demand a lot out of these young men because I know what the reward is at the end for them.

JG: During all those conversations, whether it was during the hockey season or the summer, with Roger Neilson, what was the best advice or the one thing that stood out for you that helped you become a successful coach?

DE: Well, you're going to think this is funny. I learned so much from Rog. But the most crucial thing he taught me was how it important it was to care about your players. He showed me what kind of work ethic it took to be a coach. He got to know all of his players individually, about their families, their kids, whatever it was. And I've tried to do that. But for me, the most uncomfortable thing in the world ‑‑ it's because I sat on the other side of the desk ‑‑ is when I've got to send a guy down or tell a guy that, “Listen, we're sending you down to the East Coast League.” Or it's through training camp, “we're not going to give you a contract; we're cutting you.” It's a horrible, horrible thing to do, but in the end it has to be done.

The one thing Rog always told me is that you don't need to give excuses. You need to get the player in your office, give them the news, and get them out of there as quick as possible. If you want to do some explaining or talk to them, do it a week later whether he's at home or maybe he's down with the East Coast League team, whatever it is, but don't get into a long conversation when you're sending a guy down. I know it's probably not what you're looking for on coaching advice ‑‑

But every time I have to do this, I think of Rog. It's like, okay, I'm bringing this guy in. I'm giving him the news, and I'm getting him out the door as fast as possible because the kids are usually devastated. They're upset, and when you start getting into excuses I'm not even sure they're hearing them. So I try to get them out the door as fast as possible, and then I try to check in with them a week or two later to make sure that they're doing all right. Then you can have a little bit better conversation with them on what needs to be done, or which way they need to go in their lives now.

JG: What would be your piece of advice to amateur coaches -- whether they're coaching Triple A, whether they're coaching junior, whether they're coaching pee wee, or even house league and atom -- what's the one thing you have to do to be a successful coach?

DE: Well, actually, I've got a few. I'm not just going to give you one. I think for young coaches, number one, get to know your players and get to know them individually. You've got to find out what makes them tick, what makes them happy, what makes them sad, what makes them mad. I think it's so important on so many different levels. You can't treat every one of your players the same. It's impossible, and it's a real dangerous road to go down.

Number two; skill up your players. Skill them. Don't get caught trying to teach them a trap or something like that in practice. You've got to designate a lot of your practice time to skill. Whether that's skating, passing, handling the puck, these players need to have pucks on their sticks all the time. If you do want to run system stuff, the game is going where, hey, it's pressure; it's attack. I think teams are really falling away from the trap style of game, and you need to go after teams. For me, pressure is best.

JG: What would be the best puck possession drill that you would implement at a young level?

DE: Well, it's hard to give it to you in an interview, but I just think in any drill where you've got many players going at once where there's multiple passes, where there has to be communication and timing, you're doing a pretty good job. I even watch practices in our league and I'll see two guys skating down the ice; One guy going one way and the other guy going the other way for a shot on net. I see 20 other players standing there and it sickens me. You have to have multiple players moving. You can still get your shooting drills in with multiple guys moving and passing the puck. If you've got your whole team down at one end doing a shooting drill, or you've got two guys going in a shooting drill, you've got a big problem in my books.

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#1 DigDeepNBleedBlue
June 08 2013, 04:25PM
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I said they should do this months ago!!!

F-ing A! Now we're talking good hockey moves. Mac-T you had me at hello.

It's a good day to be an Oiler fan peeps. A good damn day!

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#2 DigDeepNBleedBlue
June 08 2013, 04:30PM
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As for Eakins: I think he could coach a fat kid out of a candy store empty handed.

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#3 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 08 2013, 05:02PM
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oliveoilers wrote:

Didn't see press conference, but read what MacT said about R.K. and him sitting down to discuss an associate coach and realising he needed a new head coach. Wow. He's stone cold, man. Sounds like R.K's been sandbagged...

Hockey is a business......don't confuse the skill/ability to make bold/tough decisions with a lack of empathy......elite level management by definition requires making decisions that are extremely difficult and that have human consequences.

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#4 NewAgeSys
June 08 2013, 05:10PM
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Mac-T is a straight shooter and I am sure everything is on the level and we will recieve timely and accurate updates.

I am not critiquing Mac-T,just looking forward and planning.

I say bring in Wayne and Mark.

Let them run the show,give them the full power and five year contracts that are inescapable for both sides.

Lock them in and lock this Franchises direction in rock solid.

If there was ever a combo created to coach the core group we have here of potential superstars,it truly is these two men.

I know its corny and reeks of Olde School Poison,but I actually think its an Olde School Cure.

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#5 Mac962
June 08 2013, 05:18PM
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Good job MAC-T. Showed Balls. RK- Just was not going to work. Let the change continue. See ya Bucky. Finally someone with some gumption to get this shipped turned. Listen up now Kids, because its now in or will be soon in your hands. Be winners, Make this your team, its in You Taylor, Jordan, Nuge, Nail, Sam. DO IT GOD DAMN IT.

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#6 Oiler Al
June 08 2013, 05:45PM
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Eakin would be a very good choice, think he can work with young up and coming players.. which Oilers are loaded with.

He did a great job with somewhat lesser talent in the Marlies organization.. it seems a lot of these not names moved up to the Leafs and to everyones surprise were playin NHL competitive hockey.

I hope who ever comes in.. that the team gets rid of Smith , and get someone to fix the gong show on the back end. Bucky,,, keep washing Lowes car.

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#7 DigDeepNBleedBlue
June 08 2013, 06:00PM
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I watched the way this team played last year and I thought RK was a horrible coach. Period. If you think he was good, well, I'm sorry for ya.

Psychoanalyze this all you want. But, simply, RK didn't get NHL hockey. IMO. Balls out, get rough and dirty hockey. Didn't get or didn't like it. Either way he was off planet. Like it or not, but if you watch the playoffs I'm sure you at the very least understand this sentiment. RK didn't.

"Well again I'm going to let you guys draw your own conclusions on that regard. Any, any... I don't want to get into... and this is MY decision. It doesn't mean... Philosophically I differ from Ralph and it doesn't mean MY strategy is right or Ralph's strategy is right, but I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER and it's my job and MY decision to make..."

I like it!

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#8 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 08 2013, 06:33PM
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DigDeepNBleedBlue wrote:

I watched the way this team played last year and I thought RK was a horrible coach. Period. If you think he was good, well, I'm sorry for ya.

Psychoanalyze this all you want. But, simply, RK didn't get NHL hockey. IMO. Balls out, get rough and dirty hockey. Didn't get or didn't like it. Either way he was off planet. Like it or not, but if you watch the playoffs I'm sure you at the very least understand this sentiment. RK didn't.

"Well again I'm going to let you guys draw your own conclusions on that regard. Any, any... I don't want to get into... and this is MY decision. It doesn't mean... Philosophically I differ from Ralph and it doesn't mean MY strategy is right or Ralph's strategy is right, but I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER and it's my job and MY decision to make..."

I like it!

Agree with all of this......I have to admit that I was actually trying to drink the koolaid and thinking that given his success in Switzerland maybe his whole ultra positive approach was some kind of innovative approach, some kind of Billy Beane thing.....but it never felt right....and like you said about watching this years playoffs, it became very evident that the koolaid was poisonous...

As a die hard Oiler fan.....Never dreamed I'd ever be cheering for "Dallas" !

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#9 Bushed
June 08 2013, 08:07PM
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Watched the video and was impressed with MacT's clarity, directness, decisiveness, and class in not answering any questions on behalf of RK, and also not disparaging him in any way, while making it clear that they had differences in philosophy.

He also didn't mince words in taking responsibility for the success or failure of the decision.

He then drew a line in the sand with the reporters at the end. "That's enough for now."

Holy culture change, MacT. Impressive. You've really got our attention now--can't wait to see what's next.

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#10 Spydyr
June 08 2013, 08:38PM
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thebiggestmanintheworld wrote:

So, is this going to start being an oiler tradition, just like preparing for the draft in March?

Sam Gagner-6 NHL seasons, 5 NHL head coaches.

I wonder why he can't figure out the defensive sysytems?

Yes,Must be the coaches fault.You figured it out.

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#11 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 08 2013, 04:11PM
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Right or wrong.....It's BOLD !

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#12 John Chambers
June 08 2013, 04:12PM
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There is only one way for MacT to go cette ete: big!

The next five weeks will be awesome!

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#13 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 08 2013, 04:13PM
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A little bit of SHOCK & AWE is good !!!

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#14 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 08 2013, 04:15PM
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The countdown to SEVEN continues:

1) Belov

2) Eakins?

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#15 oliveoilers
June 08 2013, 04:32PM
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Maybe we should wait until Dan Bylsma (did I spell it right?) is available.....we're not doing well in the 'unproven NHL coaches' catagory. But please, please, please, please not Torterella. Please.

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#16 oliveoilers
June 08 2013, 04:43PM
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Didn't see press conference, but read what MacT said about R.K. and him sitting down to discuss an associate coach and realising he needed a new head coach. Wow. He's stone cold, man. Sounds like R.K's been sandbagged...

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#17 MMAX
June 08 2013, 05:14PM
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WHO????????????

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#18 djc
June 08 2013, 05:17PM
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If Eakins get the job, I am certain he will hire the 2 most knowledgable hockey people around to be his assistants - DSF and NewAgeSystems. Book it.

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#19 Rocket
June 08 2013, 05:26PM
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I don't know. Eakins gets hyped a lot because of the Toronto media so I'm a little hesitant. Then again, If he comes in & does a great job I'd be all on board. Sounds like MacT is really big on Eakins though so I guess that's cool.

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#20 oliveoilers
June 08 2013, 05:35PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Hockey is a business......don't confuse the skill/ability to make bold/tough decisions with a lack of empathy......elite level management by definition requires making decisions that are extremely difficult and that have human consequences.

I guess we're just not used to elite level management! But my point is: How can anybody deal with MacT without wondering if he's looking at them like he's weighing up if they're necessary?

I'd be scared to ask him if I could use the bathroom.

Do you feel as if RK was given a decent shot? RK is very well respected, I would have liked him to have one FULL season before the axe fell. Don't confuse a new GM wanting to make his mark on the team with bold, decisive elite level GMing. But I do applaud the move, he is doing exactlly as advertised!

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#21 madjam
June 08 2013, 05:45PM
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I suspect new coach would want his own assistants ? Maybe more coaching changes ? Does this mean we are no longer looking for an additional coach on top of this like we were apparently doing if Ralph was still in charge ?

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#22 Walter Sobchak
June 08 2013, 06:06PM
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I wonder if Kruger told MacTavish he wouldn't have an associate coach?

MacTavish thanked him and that's that?

Maybe that simple.

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#23 MMAX
June 08 2013, 06:08PM
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@MMAX

Oh now I got it. Another rookie head coach with absolutely zero NHL experience. Should work out great, after all you can just fire him at the end of next season.

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#24 madjam
June 08 2013, 06:08PM
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Are you sure it is Eakins and not TODD NELSON or someone else - the OKC head coach whose resume exceeds Eakins . Todd Nelson : 3 league championships and Calder Cup win with Chicago Wolves . 2 years assistant coach NHL Atlanta Flames . Playoffs for our farm club multiple years . The guy wins all over .

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#25 thebiggestmanintheworld
June 08 2013, 06:13PM
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So, is this going to start being an oiler tradition, just like preparing for the draft in March?

Sam Gagner-6 NHL seasons, 5 NHL head coaches.

I wonder why he can't figure out the defensive sysytems?

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#26 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 08 2013, 06:22PM
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oliveoilers wrote:

I guess we're just not used to elite level management! But my point is: How can anybody deal with MacT without wondering if he's looking at them like he's weighing up if they're necessary?

I'd be scared to ask him if I could use the bathroom.

Do you feel as if RK was given a decent shot? RK is very well respected, I would have liked him to have one FULL season before the axe fell. Don't confuse a new GM wanting to make his mark on the team with bold, decisive elite level GMing. But I do applaud the move, he is doing exactlly as advertised!

I get your point.......and judging from the last few sentences I think we both agree that neither of us are confusing MacT with "a new GM wanting to make his mark" ....and that we see bold and decisive decision making....as advertised.

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#27 DigDeepNBleedBlue
June 08 2013, 06:45PM
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@Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)

LOL It does have an odd ring to it.

Still hate Modano and Co...

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#28 a lg dubl dubl
June 08 2013, 07:10PM
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I wonder if Maurice will still come in as associate coach

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#29 OutDoorRink
June 08 2013, 07:49PM
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I would be good with Eakins, Ruff or Nelson.

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#30 Fantheoilman
June 08 2013, 07:54PM
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@a lg dubl dubl

This was my thought exactly. You got big balls MacT. How aggressive will he be? I didn't know but I'm sure going to pay attention to what you do this summer. Please let me have some cool aid that tastes good for a change. "Tentatively " in MacT we trust...?

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#31 David S
June 08 2013, 08:15PM
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Every time Wanye posts up an article I am reminded how MS Paint makes the difference between a good article and a DAMN FINE ONE!

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#32 gcw_rocks
June 08 2013, 10:31PM
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I don't get why MacT would bullet Krueger now, and I certainly don't get why he would pick Eakins over a Vinnault or Ruff, or even Nelson.

Sigh. Rebuild 3.0 starts with an unproven coach and a controversy boiling around Horcoff and Hemsky. Because Oilers...

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#33 a lg dubl dubl
June 08 2013, 11:01PM
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Fantheoilman wrote:

This was my thought exactly. You got big balls MacT. How aggressive will he be? I didn't know but I'm sure going to pay attention to what you do this summer. Please let me have some cool aid that tastes good for a change. "Tentatively " in MacT we trust...?

Indeed, but in the last month he's gained my trust more than Dithers did in the 3 years he was here. I didn't think he'd call out Hemsky and Horcoff like he did the other day but it is what it is, he didn't leave us gessing on the matter lol.

Im glad MacT has put the coaching decision on himself, while IMO put it all on the players too at the same time.

$hit just got real.

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#34 NewAgeSys
June 09 2013, 08:55AM
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oliveoilers wrote:

Maybe we should wait until Dan Bylsma (did I spell it right?) is available.....we're not doing well in the 'unproven NHL coaches' catagory. But please, please, please, please not Torterella. Please.

I didnt like Torterella at all,just the way he presented himself annoyed me when he started,but after he settled in and his real true personality began to shine through into his work I began to literally detest him and his attitude,then after another while I began to realise he had been consistant over a decent amount of time ,he wasnt Bi-Polar and that his methods of madness werent bad managment tactics at all but were in fact in many ways expedient and efficient, then I began to really appreciate certain aspects of his delivery and presentation.Especially the integrity and accountability and comptete levels he can reach and maintain.

Actually I am going to stop now because this isnt a sales job,but dam I do like it when a Coach has the guts to take that "dam the torpedos we are going in" approach,one way or another you need to deal with many personality and learning types to manage any team and Torterella has found one of those recipies,like his approach or not it is effective.Ha ha ha.Not for the faint of heart certainly ,but effective.

A Taskmaster,ha ha ha ha.

This is not a vote for or against,just observations.I am 100% behind Mac-T and his decisions on all fronts.

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#35 BC BOY
June 09 2013, 12:45PM
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gcw_rocks wrote:

I don't get why MacT would bullet Krueger now, and I certainly don't get why he would pick Eakins over a Vinnault or Ruff, or even Nelson.

Sigh. Rebuild 3.0 starts with an unproven coach and a controversy boiling around Horcoff and Hemsky. Because Oilers...

I'm sure MacT interviewed all of those candidates and is making a very informed decision on hiring Eakins. MacT obviously has a little more insight than you

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#36 Geoff
June 09 2013, 04:53PM
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Eakins/maurice tandem? They did work together before.

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#37 Daniel Sedin
June 09 2013, 11:37PM
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DigDeepNBleedBlue wrote:

As for Eakins: I think he could coach a fat kid out of a candy store empty handed.

That's good because he will be coaching the Oilers out empty handed each season too!

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#38 rubbertrout
June 10 2013, 08:07AM
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Remember when everyone was clamouring over themselves to say we needed to hire Scott Arneil?

What about the hubris around Cory Clouston?

I hope this works out but in my mind if you were looking for the right coach a guy like Vigneault or Tippet (both of whom are well versed in the managing of players and line matching) would the the better route to go than a guy who had unbelievable goaltending in the AHL.

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