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Lowetide
July 01 2013 06:35PM

The Edmonton Oilers added to their future offensive arsenal yesterday when drafting Marc-Olivier Roy. His scouting report (and the highlight package) suggest a terrific prospect and a player worth watching over the next couple of years.

HE'S A NATURAL

Marc-Olivier (don't worry, they all shorten it after awhile, much to Wanye-Squee Wanye's chagrin) was well regarded by the trusted scouting agencies going into the draft:

  • Bob McKenzie: 58
  • Redline: 39
  • ISS:54
  • Craig Button: 52

And they said very nice things about him:

  • Redline: While thought of as a grinder who brings passion and intensity to each shift (which is accurate), that is short-changing his skill level. Good skater with speed and balance, and accelerates well. Wins a lot of races for loose pucks and is always 1st into corners. Works his bag off every shift and comes back hard on the backcheck. He’s an absolute buzzsaw with a motor that never quits. If his team loses the puck, he wants to go and get it back immediately. Stays in constant motion in the offensive zone, making him very difficult to check or contain. Soft hands for both giving and receiving passes. Gets shots away quickly around the slot and shows good accuracy. Competes like a bastard and always has his head in the game. Rugged and persistent on the forecheck. Reliable player at both ends who is continually improving. Also 6’1″ with a nice frame to fill out.

STATS STATS STATS

  • QMJHL boxcars: 65, 29-38-67
  • NHLE: 82, 11-14-25
  • Shots on goal: 159 (65th in Q)
  • Shooting percentage: 18.2
  • EV: 65, 16-25-41
  • PP: 65, 13-13-26

Roy scored well at evens and on the powerplay. As a comparison, Calgary's first round selection who also played in the QMJHL last season (Emile Poirier) went 65, 22-24-46 at evens (superior to Roy, but in the range) but didn't enjoy the same success on the PP (65, 7-8-15 compared to Roy's 26 points with the man advantage). Roy has been reported in some circles as a center, but took only 65 faceoffs this season, winning 20. Something to keep track of as he matures, but it's probably wise to list him as a RW until further notice.

PLAYOFFS

The young Roy may have turned a corner late into the season and then in the QMJHL playoffs. His coach (Jean-Francois Houle) stresses attention to defensive detail and Roy flourished during the year and in the post-season, popped 19 points in 15 games--playing a major role for his team.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

We'll know for sure in 5 years, but Marc-Olivier Roy's stats at 17 in the QMJHL were impressive. If he can take a significant step forward in the coming season, the Oilers may have a top flight two-way prospect on the way.

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#2 Citizen David
July 01 2013, 07:38PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

I'm a little afraid of how many of this current core group (Fab 5 or the sexy 6) will still remain here when Marc Roy finally makes this lineup.

The idea isn't to be good for four years and maybe win a cup and then do a re-build all over again. The idea is to have a team that is good for decades. To do this you have to continually mine prospects. Even if some of our stars are gone by the time Nurse and Roy are in their prime, they will be pieces that help our team stay competitive.

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#3 Clyde Frog
July 01 2013, 10:53PM
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DSF wrote:

The Oilers should have drafted Zykov.

6'0" 210 LW

40G 75P in 67GP in the Q. 19P in 19 playoff games.

Makes Marc-Olivier Roy (and Paajarvi) look like a princess.

LA will leave him in junior for another season, then have him play in Manchester for a season and he'll be ready to go.

LA knows how to draft.

Should we "Book it!"?

Cause your other predictions have been so very informed and accurate!

Tell us again how Cam Barker was a great pick up for Vamcouver?

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#4 Ducey
July 02 2013, 09:27AM
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I get so tired of all of these threads devolving into DSF against the world....

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#5 Brad
July 01 2013, 06:50PM
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FIST!!! Good on Mac T for loading up during this draft, hopefully one of them turns into a real role player. Hope we can swing a deal with Winnepeg for burnistrov and Bogosian.

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#6 Clyde Frog
July 01 2013, 09:32PM
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DSF wrote:

In a cap world, it is impossible to build a team that will be good "for decades".

As your highly drafted young prospects develop, they become too expensive and with any success at all you start drafting lower and lower.

Good GM's identify a window to win and go for it.

The others are in perpetual rebuild or perpetual suck.

How do you still post?

Ballard was a stroke of genius! I booked it, now he is a buy out...

Minnesota was a powerhouse! I booked it... They finished 8th and promptly flushed your gems!

Florida's pick was booked! Then subsequently changed...

The list could go on, but why waste the time?

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#7 dougtheslug
July 02 2013, 07:09AM
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DSF wrote:

The Oilers should have drafted Zykov.

6'0" 210 LW

40G 75P in 67GP in the Q. 19P in 19 playoff games.

Makes Marc-Olivier Roy (and Paajarvi) look like a princess.

LA will leave him in junior for another season, then have him play in Manchester for a season and he'll be ready to go.

LA knows how to draft.

LA knows how to draft? Two words: Thomas Hickey

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#8 Citizen David
July 01 2013, 07:02PM
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Never heard of him going into the draft. After reading up on him I'm very very happy with the pick. Could have a solid player here. Cheering for him all the way!

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#9 Citizen David
July 01 2013, 08:28PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

I hope you're right. After seeing what's happened to the 5 mill+ group (previous bunch of the best players) on this team. It's a darn shame 83 and 10 have turned into negative assets.

That Bastard Stu will have to be even more magnificent than he already has been to combat that deminshed value.

I love what's coming down the pipeline. I'm also very excited to see what Eakins can do with all these young players.

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#10 Sammy
July 01 2013, 09:54PM
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Nicushkin was going anywhere from the #3 pick and on, many teams passed on him, I think the risk reward ratio was too high for the earlier picks.

As for Nurse he was probably ranked #7 on the Oilers list and Lindholm and Monahan were the 5th and 6th not really sure off the order.

I thought Nurse was the right pick at 7 , the guy loves to compete and wants to get better. He is the type that will give 100% to everything he does.

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#11 RexLibris
July 01 2013, 11:08PM
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I'm disappointed. I thought this article was going to be about Rem Murray.

Seriously though, while I like this young man as a hockey prospect, having just read through 100+ backslapping comments about the depth, vision and talent that another Alberta team illustrated at the draft, I think I will hold off on any congratulatory hyperbole.

I like what the Oilers did yesterday in leveraging assets to deal with one of many organizational weaknesses, that is prospect depth. There remain a number of itches that need scratching and I suspect they don't all get done by October.

Gilbert is interesting, but I wonder if he doesn't sign with Detroit after they let Colaiacovo go. Grebeshkov seems very likely and would be a welcome addition. Coburn seems a distant bell if those two are added, and barring some very intriguing trade, I suspect we see Gagner at 2nd line C next season. In addition, I'm not sure the Oilers are going to get Khudobin, if only because their luck in attracting goaltenders lately has been nil.

To quote LT, we wait.

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#12 Darrell
July 02 2013, 07:57AM
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Clyde Frog wrote:

How do you still post?

Ballard was a stroke of genius! I booked it, now he is a buy out...

Minnesota was a powerhouse! I booked it... They finished 8th and promptly flushed your gems!

Florida's pick was booked! Then subsequently changed...

The list could go on, but why waste the time?

What about Vancouvers window all but being shut on Gillis head when Lou still wants out ?

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#13 Grahaeme
July 02 2013, 09:14AM
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Hey DSF

How do you feel watching the Canucks falling apart? How does it feel to have a team you cheer for NEVER win the Stanley Cup? I guess a fairweather fan like you can just keep choosing teams to pretend to like so you can feel like a winner.

Keep firing off the posts chum, it's all you'll ever have.

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#14 Fresh Mess
July 02 2013, 09:21AM
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I saw the title of this entry and thought it was about Rem Murray.

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#15 Paper Kurt Russell
July 01 2013, 06:52PM
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Long time reader, first time poster... Sounds like a good pick. Here's hoping he can track better than Pitlick and the 2010 boys.

LT, one issue that I haven't seen anyone discuss lately is the lack of toughness on the D for this upcoming season. I'm all for getting more mobile, but without a Sutton, Struds, Fistric or Teddy Peckman who is going to cross-check the Joe Thorntons of the world in the small of the back and drop the mitts occasionally?? Sure, Smid and a couple of others are a bit physical, but not nasty. Any thoughts??

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#16 Citizen David
July 01 2013, 07:06PM
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@Lowetide

Because of his "motor that never quits" and "competes like a bastard" and "reliable at both ends of the ice" do you think if he takes a step forward next year he'd have a shot at the WJC team's bottom six? There is a long list of good names eligible for that team. If he could crack the roster that would be super encouraging.

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#18 The_Tik
July 01 2013, 07:24PM
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On the radio yesterday, Bob Stauffer was absolutely stunned that the Oilers didn't take Nichushkin at #7. Someone in the organization obviously led him to believe that if Nichushkin was available, they would definitely be taking him.

Following the Oilers pick, Tencer and Stauffer were discussing reasons why Nurse was chosen instead of Nichushkin. Tencer threw out the "Russian factor" that all the talking heads like to use. Stauffer immediately shut this down by stating that the Oilers were no longer afraid of picking Russians (subsequently proven by later picks) and used the example of picking Yakupov last year. He also mentioned that Oilers were bringing over Belov this year. He went on the mention that Oilers were very close to announcing the signing of another Russian defenseman.

Any idea who this player might be?

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#19 Quicksilver ballet
July 01 2013, 07:31PM
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I'm a little afraid of how many of this current core group (Fab 5 or the sexy 6) will still remain here when Marc Roy finally makes this lineup.

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#20 Mean Machine
July 01 2013, 07:32PM
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LT, what do you think of the Slepyshev pick?

6'2 194. Corey Pronman had him as first round talent last year but he got past on due to contract issues in the KHL. If we can get this kid over in a year, that would be awesome. Played well defensively at the WJC's too.

Was angry we passed on Zykov and Carrier but was happy when we nabbed this guy. Yakimov could be a player too.

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#21 Citizen David
July 01 2013, 07:34PM
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The_Tik wrote:

On the radio yesterday, Bob Stauffer was absolutely stunned that the Oilers didn't take Nichushkin at #7. Someone in the organization obviously led him to believe that if Nichushkin was available, they would definitely be taking him.

Following the Oilers pick, Tencer and Stauffer were discussing reasons why Nurse was chosen instead of Nichushkin. Tencer threw out the "Russian factor" that all the talking heads like to use. Stauffer immediately shut this down by stating that the Oilers were no longer afraid of picking Russians (subsequently proven by later picks) and used the example of picking Yakupov last year. He also mentioned that Oilers were bringing over Belov this year. He went on the mention that Oilers were very close to announcing the signing of another Russian defenseman.

Any idea who this player might be?

Personally I'm very happy we didn't take Nichushkin. He's one of those players that hasn't actually proven a lot yet. Just looks like he has good tools. These players are huge gambles. He could be a first liner, he could be the bust of the draft. The swedes are the classic examples of this. Burakovsky is an example of this. He scored 4 goals in sweden's div 2 league and first thing Bob said about him after he was picked was goal scorer. Nichushkin reminds me a lot of Filip Forsberg, who was ranked super high last draft based on tools and potential rather than what he's actually done. Now people are projecting Forsberg as a third liner. Go for the players that have already shown something. Nurse has.

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#22 MarcusBillius
July 01 2013, 07:34PM
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Lowetide, I've thought that since the lessons of the days of power play deity Rob Schremp, 5 on 5 scoring was the mark of excellence and a man advantage ability was dismissed?

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#23 Sliderule
July 01 2013, 07:37PM
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OK we have deduced by the great minds that we have few prospects for center and goal.

So the oils first two picks a defenceman (best prospects) and a winger (best NHL players..

Go figure!

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#24 Crackenbury
July 01 2013, 07:43PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Paper Kurt: Good question. I thought they would have signed Fistric, who outside of that crazy hip check gone wrong was solid to my eye. But with Peckham, Sutton and Fistric gone my guess is we'll see one addition for the blue of that player type.

And a couple of forwards too

I am at a loss as to why we would just let a couple of players like Peckham and Fistric go for nothing. It's like this organization has some kind of deep rooted vindictive personality built into it. It would be an interesting list of functional NHL players the Oilers have let go for nothing or gave up on for murky reasons. I'll throw out a few recent names to start the list. Greene, Souray, Glencross. Add to it Fistric and Peckham. I have a feeling Peckham is going to make the Oilers look foolish for giving up on him.

Fistric seems to be the perfect fit for the bottom pairing. He makes one blatantly bad play during an otherwise solid season and can't get back in the lineup. Doesn't make much sense to me.

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#26 Quicksilver ballet
July 01 2013, 07:47PM
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@Citizen David

I agree with you train of thought.

Where we're at now has a lot to do with the best player in the deal was always leaving Edmonton since the late 80's.

Have we just reloaded, only to have little to no success before this process starts yet again with the 5 or 6 good players we have here now?

Getting those near half dozen great players was only half the battle. Bringing in support for these guys is proving to be yet another difficult task it appears. Hope the foundation doesn't start to crack before they become a successful 25 man group.

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#27 Citizen David
July 01 2013, 08:04PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

I agree with you train of thought.

Where we're at now has a lot to do with the best player in the deal was always leaving Edmonton since the late 80's.

Have we just reloaded, only to have little to no success before this process starts yet again with the 5 or 6 good players we have here now?

Getting those near half dozen great players was only half the battle. Bringing in support for these guys is proving to be yet another difficult task it appears. Hope the foundation doesn't start to crack before they become a successful 25 man group.

Have to think at the very least one probably two or three of our so dubed "fab five" will be with the Oilers long term. As long as management isn't complete idiots, they will get good return for the ones that leave. When that happens our team might not have as much high end talent. But if done right should have great depth and still be a very good team.

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#28 gcw_rocks
July 01 2013, 08:06PM
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How does his draft year compare to Cornet?

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#29 Citizen David
July 01 2013, 08:12PM
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gcw_rocks wrote:

How does his draft year compare to Cornet?

Cornet's stat line 61-23-26-49+14

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#31 Paper Kurt Russell
July 01 2013, 08:17PM
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@Citizen David

Seems to me like over the years there have been more Russians that haven't worked out than there are who have... perhaps the solid Canadian D was a good choice. Time will tell...

PKR

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#32 Citizen David
July 01 2013, 08:24PM
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Paper Kurt Russell wrote:

Seems to me like over the years there have been more Russians that haven't worked out than there are who have... perhaps the solid Canadian D was a good choice. Time will tell...

PKR

I think it's a case by case basis. And Nichushkin definitely has home run potential. In a few years he could make more teams than just the Oilers silly for passing on him... But he also could be a bust. Hasn't shown a lot of actually substance yet. Time will tell indeed. If I bet on it I would bet against Nichushkin being a great player at the NHL level.

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#33 Quicksilver ballet
July 01 2013, 08:24PM
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Citizen David wrote:

Have to think at the very least one probably two or three of our so dubed "fab five" will be with the Oilers long term. As long as management isn't complete idiots, they will get good return for the ones that leave. When that happens our team might not have as much high end talent. But if done right should have great depth and still be a very good team.

I hope you're right. After seeing what's happened to the 5 mill+ group (previous bunch of the best players) on this team. It's a darn shame 83 and 10 have turned into negative assets.

That Bastard Stu will have to be even more magnificent than he already has been to combat that deminshed value.

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#34 Rocket
July 01 2013, 08:28PM
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Crackenbury wrote:

I am at a loss as to why we would just let a couple of players like Peckham and Fistric go for nothing. It's like this organization has some kind of deep rooted vindictive personality built into it. It would be an interesting list of functional NHL players the Oilers have let go for nothing or gave up on for murky reasons. I'll throw out a few recent names to start the list. Greene, Souray, Glencross. Add to it Fistric and Peckham. I have a feeling Peckham is going to make the Oilers look foolish for giving up on him.

Fistric seems to be the perfect fit for the bottom pairing. He makes one blatantly bad play during an otherwise solid season and can't get back in the lineup. Doesn't make much sense to me.

Totally. Overall toughness has been an Oilers need for years. So they bring tough defencemen in only to let them go for free?

I know MacT talked about getting puck moving defencemen but what about D men that make opposing players not want to stand in front of The Oilers net or pay a heavy price?

I know Pekham, Fistric, Whitney would not get them much but to just watch them walk away is a little shortsighted.

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#35 Rocket
July 01 2013, 08:31PM
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@Citizen David

Most commentators have complained about The Oilers lack of size but a lot of these prospects they have been drafting (including this year) make me thing The Oilers will be quite a bit bigger in the not to distant future.

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#36 PeOiler
July 01 2013, 08:36PM
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First pic is in my home-town rink(CCC). Safe to say that I will not be missing any Armada games next year.

Bibeau, (goalie in pic) is worth the admission every night. Stole the starters job and led the league in SO last year. I had hoped the Oil would use a pick on him.

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#37 Quicksilver ballet
July 01 2013, 08:37PM
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Watch Peckhams next team convert him into a forward. Something the Oilers could've done with him last season rather than let him sit in the press box for the whole yr.

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#38 Crackenbury
July 01 2013, 08:57PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Watch Peckhams next team convert him into a forward. Something the Oilers could've done with him last season rather than let him sit in the press box for the whole yr.

That's a definite possibility. Why exactly is he being banished? For coming to camp out of shape? It was my understanding he was in the best condition of his career at the start of what should have been the regular season. I doubt he was the only out of shape player to show up in January. They punished him for a month and then just wouldn't let it go even after he got back into the lineup and played decent for the few games he played.

Peckham is going to be motivated to make the Oilers look like fools. I'm not betting against him doing it. To me he is worth giving another chance.

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#39 DSF
July 01 2013, 09:03PM
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Citizen David wrote:

The idea isn't to be good for four years and maybe win a cup and then do a re-build all over again. The idea is to have a team that is good for decades. To do this you have to continually mine prospects. Even if some of our stars are gone by the time Nurse and Roy are in their prime, they will be pieces that help our team stay competitive.

In a cap world, it is impossible to build a team that will be good "for decades".

As your highly drafted young prospects develop, they become too expensive and with any success at all you start drafting lower and lower.

Good GM's identify a window to win and go for it.

The others are in perpetual rebuild or perpetual suck.

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#40 admiralmark
July 01 2013, 09:17PM
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Looks promising...

On the subject of his video: What is the deal with youtube video's people post up that look like they were filmed in the 1950's? Just about every phone you buy films in HD 480p or better and these highlights had to of come in what the last year? I just dont get it... Big pet peeve of mine.. K rant over.

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#41 madjam
July 01 2013, 09:35PM
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Citizen David wrote:

Personally I'm very happy we didn't take Nichushkin. He's one of those players that hasn't actually proven a lot yet. Just looks like he has good tools. These players are huge gambles. He could be a first liner, he could be the bust of the draft. The swedes are the classic examples of this. Burakovsky is an example of this. He scored 4 goals in sweden's div 2 league and first thing Bob said about him after he was picked was goal scorer. Nichushkin reminds me a lot of Filip Forsberg, who was ranked super high last draft based on tools and potential rather than what he's actually done. Now people are projecting Forsberg as a third liner. Go for the players that have already shown something. Nurse has.

I think your way out of whack on your appraisal of Nicushkin . The kids very good and you'll find out just how good probably this season . Oilers went with Nurse , but may be kicking themselves in the rear for passing on him . Russian factor has changed since the KHL, and has given Russian players a huge bartering tool in contract negotiations visible or otherwise . I guess in Oilers eye they figured when both were close to even , go with the Canadian . Did Oilers make the right choice or side on the way of caution . I preferred Risto because of his offense , did we maybe pass on him and will regret it as well ? Time will tell obviously . Lets hope they made the right choice .

Hope Yakupov doesn't try to use the Russian factor when his contract comes up .Many KHL'ers want to go NHL at decent prices . However , KHL does pay exhobitant for top talent . Minor concern only , but still a concern .

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#42 Eric
July 01 2013, 09:41PM
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More Gems at #37.

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#43 MKE
July 01 2013, 09:43PM
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DSF wrote:

In a cap world, it is impossible to build a team that will be good "for decades".

As your highly drafted young prospects develop, they become too expensive and with any success at all you start drafting lower and lower.

Good GM's identify a window to win and go for it.

The others are in perpetual rebuild or perpetual suck.

Actually not impossible. The Red Wings have done it.

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#44 DSF
July 01 2013, 09:55PM
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MKE wrote:

Actually not impossible. The Red Wings have done it.

Yes, I thought of them when I made that post but the Wings haven't won a cup in 5 years and I doubt they are favoured next season.

Their drafting and developing system has had them in hunt for a long while but suggesting the Oilers can duplicate that without the strong infrastructure in place is a bit of a stretch.

I would think other teams who are on the upswing in the cycle likely have a better chance of winning.

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#45 Shane
July 01 2013, 10:03PM
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I wonder if MacT used a formula and followed it to the letter. The thing you forgot sometimes is the player is more important then the technical stuff.

People trade stocks just on technicals does not matter what the stock is or what business they are in. Technicals work until they don't. If it was that easy we would all be rich.

I hope Oilers balance the player and the technical in some way. Trading the #37 did not make much sense to me given the players available. Obviously Oilers do this for a living . I hope this was not just a formula.

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#46 DSF
July 01 2013, 10:07PM
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Shane wrote:

I wonder if MacT used a formula and followed it to the letter. The thing you forgot sometimes is the player is more important then the technical stuff.

People trade stocks just on technicals does not matter what the stock is or what business they are in. Technicals work until they don't. If it was that easy we would all be rich.

I hope Oilers balance the player and the technical in some way. Trading the #37 did not make much sense to me given the players available. Obviously Oilers do this for a living . I hope this was not just a formula.

If it was a formula, they got it wrong:

http://www.coppernblue.com/2013/7/1/4484954/a-closer-look-at-the-draft-day-trades

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#47 Jacob
July 01 2013, 10:21PM
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Players at 37 who looked good to me.

Valentin Zykov

Connor Hurley

Steve Santini

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#48 DSF
July 01 2013, 10:41PM
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The Oilers should have drafted Zykov.

6'0" 210 LW

40G 75P in 67GP in the Q. 19P in 19 playoff games.

Makes Marc-Olivier Roy (and Paajarvi) look like a princess.

LA will leave him in junior for another season, then have him play in Manchester for a season and he'll be ready to go.

LA knows how to draft.

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#49 WhattaMike
July 01 2013, 10:52PM
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I think the main factors of Nurse over Nichushkin was... first off...the position of top defender versus winger since size beteween them was only a difference of 20 lbs or so. The attitutde at the combine apparanetly may have also been another factor as Nichushkin refused to really put out for the testing. His compete level may be an issue, as also, he seemed to be of a primadonna with several type statements he gave in interviews (a me me me issue??) and/or there was still likely the KHL factor with of his not liking a possible demotion to the AHL in case he could not cut it to the bigs immediately and therefore he would bolt back there just like Nashville's russian did...

Nurse is definitely a big correct need for the Oilers on defence especially if he comes close to being a Scott Stevens or Pronger type clone in more ways than just one. I for one, am glad this 2nd best rated defence prospect kid was available at #7 especially while when my choices of the top four centres were all gone

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#50 The Soup Fascist
July 01 2013, 11:06PM
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Jacob wrote:

Players at 37 who looked good to me.

Valentin Zykov

Connor Hurley

Steve Santini

I really wish Bryan Murray had announced that the Senators drafted Steven Santini. ;^)

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