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Lowetide
July 01 2013 06:35PM

The Edmonton Oilers added to their future offensive arsenal yesterday when drafting Marc-Olivier Roy. His scouting report (and the highlight package) suggest a terrific prospect and a player worth watching over the next couple of years.

HE'S A NATURAL

Marc-Olivier (don't worry, they all shorten it after awhile, much to Wanye-Squee Wanye's chagrin) was well regarded by the trusted scouting agencies going into the draft:

  • Bob McKenzie: 58
  • Redline: 39
  • ISS:54
  • Craig Button: 52

And they said very nice things about him:

  • Redline: While thought of as a grinder who brings passion and intensity to each shift (which is accurate), that is short-changing his skill level. Good skater with speed and balance, and accelerates well. Wins a lot of races for loose pucks and is always 1st into corners. Works his bag off every shift and comes back hard on the backcheck. He’s an absolute buzzsaw with a motor that never quits. If his team loses the puck, he wants to go and get it back immediately. Stays in constant motion in the offensive zone, making him very difficult to check or contain. Soft hands for both giving and receiving passes. Gets shots away quickly around the slot and shows good accuracy. Competes like a bastard and always has his head in the game. Rugged and persistent on the forecheck. Reliable player at both ends who is continually improving. Also 6’1″ with a nice frame to fill out.

STATS STATS STATS

  • QMJHL boxcars: 65, 29-38-67
  • NHLE: 82, 11-14-25
  • Shots on goal: 159 (65th in Q)
  • Shooting percentage: 18.2
  • EV: 65, 16-25-41
  • PP: 65, 13-13-26

Roy scored well at evens and on the powerplay. As a comparison, Calgary's first round selection who also played in the QMJHL last season (Emile Poirier) went 65, 22-24-46 at evens (superior to Roy, but in the range) but didn't enjoy the same success on the PP (65, 7-8-15 compared to Roy's 26 points with the man advantage). Roy has been reported in some circles as a center, but took only 65 faceoffs this season, winning 20. Something to keep track of as he matures, but it's probably wise to list him as a RW until further notice.

PLAYOFFS

The young Roy may have turned a corner late into the season and then in the QMJHL playoffs. His coach (Jean-Francois Houle) stresses attention to defensive detail and Roy flourished during the year and in the post-season, popped 19 points in 15 games--playing a major role for his team.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

We'll know for sure in 5 years, but Marc-Olivier Roy's stats at 17 in the QMJHL were impressive. If he can take a significant step forward in the coming season, the Oilers may have a top flight two-way prospect on the way.

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#51 madjam
July 02 2013, 06:03AM
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DSF wrote:

The Oilers should have drafted Zykov.

6'0" 210 LW

40G 75P in 67GP in the Q. 19P in 19 playoff games.

Makes Marc-Olivier Roy (and Paajarvi) look like a princess.

LA will leave him in junior for another season, then have him play in Manchester for a season and he'll be ready to go.

LA knows how to draft.

Your disdain for Paajarvi is unfounded and your conclusion of look like a princess ridiculous . Paajarvi in his draft was a top prospect and we were lucky to get him . He was very dominant that draft year - far more so than Zykov or Roy . In retrospect if Paajarvi a princess then Zykov in comparison is the knave .Your talking Voltswagon to Cadillac here as far as draft year . If Paajarvi gets his scoring touch going in Nhl as he did first part of rookie season , he could be a dandy yet .

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#52 madjam
July 02 2013, 06:28AM
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How did we do at the draft ? Debateable ,and must be put in double context . Drafting I give a passing grade , but not much higher than that .Obtaining others during draft which was a major priority going in - a complete failure . Overall then slightly under the50 mark . It remains to be seen if Nurse was the right choice ,but I wouldn't bet on it . He will be a player no doubt but it will be extremely hard for him to reach the lofty goals of his hype .

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#53 madjam
July 02 2013, 06:54AM
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Of big concern here is MacT. striking out at obtaining the personnel he was hoping for with trades . Will he now get antsy and try trades are subsequently lower in value - more plan B or C ? Who knows with his current track record if he'll even be acceptable at that ? Maybe leave well enough alone if he has no fortay for making deals ?

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#54 dougtheslug
July 02 2013, 07:09AM
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DSF wrote:

The Oilers should have drafted Zykov.

6'0" 210 LW

40G 75P in 67GP in the Q. 19P in 19 playoff games.

Makes Marc-Olivier Roy (and Paajarvi) look like a princess.

LA will leave him in junior for another season, then have him play in Manchester for a season and he'll be ready to go.

LA knows how to draft.

LA knows how to draft? Two words: Thomas Hickey

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#55 Spydyr
July 02 2013, 07:57AM
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How did they do in the draft?

We will find out in five years.

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#56 Darrell
July 02 2013, 07:57AM
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Clyde Frog wrote:

How do you still post?

Ballard was a stroke of genius! I booked it, now he is a buy out...

Minnesota was a powerhouse! I booked it... They finished 8th and promptly flushed your gems!

Florida's pick was booked! Then subsequently changed...

The list could go on, but why waste the time?

What about Vancouvers window all but being shut on Gillis head when Lou still wants out ?

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#57 Grahaeme
July 02 2013, 09:14AM
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Hey DSF

How do you feel watching the Canucks falling apart? How does it feel to have a team you cheer for NEVER win the Stanley Cup? I guess a fairweather fan like you can just keep choosing teams to pretend to like so you can feel like a winner.

Keep firing off the posts chum, it's all you'll ever have.

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#58 DSF
July 02 2013, 09:15AM
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dougtheslug wrote:

LA knows how to draft? Two words: Thomas Hickey

You mean the Thomas Hickey who went 1G 4P +9 for the Islanders last season?

Looks like he's doing okay.

You might want to check LA's success in finding good NHL players in the second round and later.

Toffoli, Clifford, Voynov, Simmonds, Martinez, King, Quick.

Their record is quite remarkable.

In that same time frame, since 2005, the Oilers have produced ONE NHL regular from the second round or later, Jeff Petry.

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#59 Cheap Shot Charlie
July 02 2013, 09:17AM
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DSF wrote:

The Oilers should have drafted Zykov.

6'0" 210 LW

40G 75P in 67GP in the Q. 19P in 19 playoff games.

Makes Marc-Olivier Roy (and Paajarvi) look like a princess.

LA will leave him in junior for another season, then have him play in Manchester for a season and he'll be ready to go.

LA knows how to draft.

MacT is an idiot! He should have drafted Anthony Bennett!

6' 8"

240lbs

16.1 Avg PPG

I think the NHLE on that would be at least 160 PPG. He would make Wayne Gretzky and Alex Burrows look like princesses!

K, back to you DSF for some hiliarious back seat GMing.

I love you, man! *HUG*

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#60 Fresh Mess
July 02 2013, 09:21AM
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I saw the title of this entry and thought it was about Rem Murray.

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#61 Gaz
July 02 2013, 09:26AM
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@DSF

What other sites are you a regular poster on, DSF?

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#62 Ducey
July 02 2013, 09:27AM
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I get so tired of all of these threads devolving into DSF against the world....

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#63 oilerjed
July 02 2013, 09:28AM
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madjam wrote:

Of big concern here is MacT. striking out at obtaining the personnel he was hoping for with trades . Will he now get antsy and try trades are subsequently lower in value - more plan B or C ? Who knows with his current track record if he'll even be acceptable at that ? Maybe leave well enough alone if he has no fortay for making deals ?

I wonder how much he actually struck out and how much of what we heard was media hype pumped up by other media?? How many teams actually made moves for players during the draft - 4. Thats it thats all. And of those the only one I feel like we missed out on was, actually dont feel like we missed out on much. Bolland would have been nice for the draft picks it took, but we didnt have 2 2nds to give anyway, Frolic maybe but mostly I feel Meh...... Im holding off making a judgement until October to deem if he is a bust a deal making. When I see what is on the opening day roster we will know how much smoke he has been blowing.

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#64 Gaz
July 02 2013, 09:36AM
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@Ducey

Agreed. I think a good mix of personalities is what makes this a fun comments section to read over and occasionally post on, but it's unfortunate that it quickly devolves when certain individuals post remarks aimed solely at whipping people up without much relevance to the conversation at hand.

The resulting frenzy is unfortunate (and the fault of everyone who engages, not just the rabble-rouser). It would be nice if we could all just argue on a point, and not have it revert to the same tired lines of attack.

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#65 djc
July 02 2013, 09:53AM
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Gaz wrote:

What other sites are you a regular poster on, DSF?

bandwagon.com, Grandlundishot.com, Seniorswithnothingtodo.com, Wellwood.xxx

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#66 Gaz
July 02 2013, 09:56AM
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@djc

Haha I like that last one.

Honestly though - I'm curious. I suspect I'll never get an answer though, because then I could go browse those boards and see that he plays the same game on other teams' fan blogs.

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#67 madjam
July 02 2013, 10:13AM
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oilerjed wrote:

I wonder how much he actually struck out and how much of what we heard was media hype pumped up by other media?? How many teams actually made moves for players during the draft - 4. Thats it thats all. And of those the only one I feel like we missed out on was, actually dont feel like we missed out on much. Bolland would have been nice for the draft picks it took, but we didnt have 2 2nds to give anyway, Frolic maybe but mostly I feel Meh...... Im holding off making a judgement until October to deem if he is a bust a deal making. When I see what is on the opening day roster we will know how much smoke he has been blowing.

Well , when you get the job and set lofty goals as he did for the draft , then fail to meet them with the owner right there who hired you for that purpose - then you failed miserably to deliver . I'm sure Katz never expected it . Tough to deal , but MacT. was expected to be tough and smart enough to overcome that - he obviously was not . I suspect Tams is having quite a chuckle over it , maybe even Kreuger .

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#68 Rama Lama
July 02 2013, 10:16AM
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Let's hope that he is a Gem. Each and every year there are gems in the draft and I suspect that Mac T was trying to land some of these " Russian Gems", by trading down?

This Shepylev player seems very intriguing .........LT how about a write-up on these guys? Any interviews in the past that can shed some light?

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#69 oilerjed
July 02 2013, 10:26AM
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@ Madjam I understand your impatience I just dont agree with it. There was nothing at the draft that would have accomplished anything that makes the Oil a better club. The upgrades we need arent going to be available until after the UFA kicks off. Im better with an overpaying a UFA then using future depth as chips. Katz has cash he is willing dole out, the club does not have the assets to flourish long term. Now they have more, some may work out some may not, no one will know for a couple of years. Other GMs can only hold out on the Oil for so long then they too need to get on with fixing their teams for next year. With that all being said I am totally jonesing for something hockey related to happen to tide me over for another week until this whole thing starts over again.

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#70 oilerjed
July 02 2013, 10:29AM
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Its been said on here that Gags needs to be qualified by today. Does anyone know what time the clock ends??

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#71 madjam
July 02 2013, 10:53AM
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@ Madjam I understand your impatience I just dont agree with it. There was nothing at the draft that would have accomplished anything that makes the Oil a better club. The upgrades we need arent going to be available until after the UFA kicks off. Im better with an overpaying a UFA then using future depth as chips. Katz has cash he is willing dole out, the club does not have the assets to flourish long term. Now they have more, some may work out some may not, no one will know for a couple of years. Other GMs can only hold out on the Oil for so long then they too need to get on with fixing their teams for next year. With that all being said I am totally jonesing for something hockey related to happen to tide me over for another week until this whole thing starts over again.

Your missing the point , it's about execusion of your goals that you set forth - impatience is not part of argument nor should it be . MacT. set the goals and expected timeline to deliver , not you or I .

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#72 Reg Dunlop
July 02 2013, 10:54AM
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So, it seems the asking price for the very few available, useful players was too rich for Mact's taste on the weekend. That's allright, I'm sure the price will drop during the coupon days of free agency.

Of the oilers group of prospect defencemen, surely 1 or 2 will eventually turn out to be serviceable. The prospect pool for centres and tenders is as dry as DSF's scalp, and wasting draft picks on Russians who will never leave mama's boiled turnips and cold, boiled fish behind... someone tell me WHY the rhetoric last year was never pick a dman high 1st round and this year a 185lb beanpole is for sure the next Pronger? Mact just pissed away the biggest day of the year for NHL teams that suck. Add to the one area of perceived strength and ignore the 2 areas that even Mact recognized as in need of attention. When Khabbi starts game 1 next season after Mact unsuccessfully woos and begs and embarrases the oil and the city of Edmonton while pursuing this year's white whale(Horton) the temperature may finally be right to make the necessary fundamental changes here. Adios Lowe, Mact, pro scouts, Bucky and Smith.

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#73 oilerjed
July 02 2013, 11:10AM
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@ Madjam

No I get your point Im just saying that basing your opinion on 1 week of the off season is premature. We are both hoping for the same thing. At least one solid dman and hopefully 2-3 forwards. Lets rehash this in August when there is an actual barometer to gauge MacT on. Unless you want to Book It! now and call MacT a bust, KLowe could always drop Howson in to tread water until the next draft. (Sarcasm intended)

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#74 Reg Dunlop
July 02 2013, 11:11AM
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What is the solution? I don't know but it may be time to accept our immediate fate and give the team over to the kids. If we are destined to blow, may as well let the kids, all the kids, get NHL experience. Fill the bottom of the line-up with OKC grads. Play Fedun, Marincin and Davidson. Sink or swim. Could it be worse than playing Jones and Belanger? Next draft, Sam Reinhart and the year after, McDavid. If we ever see a new arena we may have a real team playing in it.

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#75 Mean Machine
July 02 2013, 11:39AM
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DSF wrote:

You mean the Thomas Hickey who went 1G 4P +9 for the Islanders last season?

Looks like he's doing okay.

You might want to check LA's success in finding good NHL players in the second round and later.

Toffoli, Clifford, Voynov, Simmonds, Martinez, King, Quick.

Their record is quite remarkable.

In that same time frame, since 2005, the Oilers have produced ONE NHL regular from the second round or later, Jeff Petry.

LOL pretty good for the 4th overall pick. Don't ignore their first round duds:

- Thomas Hickey (damn rights he was a dud at 4th overall - dumb pick) - Teubert (ya we were suckers for grabbing him) - Lori Tukonen - LOL who? - Denis Grebeshkov - no description required - Jens Karlson - no games

Praise them for their second round picks but those are some bad 1st rounders.

I do agree with Zykov though. I wanted the Oilers to grab him, however they grabbed Slepyshev who was rated as first round talent by Cory Pronman and others in last years draft rankings. Good pickup in the 3rd round. Zykov does have skating issues though.

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#76 Gaz
July 02 2013, 11:54AM
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@Mean Machine

There you go - poking massive holes in DSF's narrative. Great, now he's never going to lift his head up :-)

Well, as long as all's quiet on the front - Paajarvi is going to be a player for 15+ years in the NHL as a high-3rd/low-2nd line player.

I'm going to go ahead and book it.

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