PERRON FOR PAAJARVI

Robin Brownlee
July 10 2013 02:46PM

Whether you deem it the bold move GM Craig MacTavish talked about, the Edmonton Oilers today made their most substantial move of this off-season, acquiring left winger David Perron from the St. Louis Blues for Magnus Paajarvi and a draft pick.

The Oilers get Perron, 25, who has 198 points in 340 NHL games with the Blues, including 10-15-25 in 48 games this season. In exchange, St. Louis gets Paajarvi, who was selected 10th overall by the Oilers in 2009, and a second-round draft pick.

Perron, six feet and 200 pounds, has three years remaining on a contract that pays him $3.5 million next season and carries a cap hit of $3,812.500 for the balance of the term.

More to come.

FROM THE OILERS

News release: "General Manager Craig MacTavish announced today the Edmonton Oilers have acquired left wing David Perron from the St. Louis Blues in exchange for left wing Magnus Paajarvi and a 2nd round selection in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft.

"Perron, 25, has spent the past six seasons with the St. Louis Blues organization, registering 198 points (84G, 114A) and 232 penalty minutes in 340 games with the Blues.

"In 2012-13, the 6'0", 205-pound, forward recorded 25 points (10G, 15A) and 44 penalty minutes in 48 games with St. Louis. He added two assists in six playoff games.

"The native of Sherbrooke, Quebec played junior hockey in the QMJHL with the Lewiston MAINEiacs for one season, registering 83 points (39G, 44A) in 70 games leading all rookies in the league that season in goals.

"Perron was originally selected by St. Louis in the 1st round, 26th overall in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft."

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#101 RJ
July 10 2013, 03:11PM
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On paper, seems like a decent trade. He's a young LW with a decent contract who fills a hole on the second line, like Brownlee was talking about yesterday. I guess he knew something we didn't.

He was expendable because of a cap crunch. I've been waiting all off-season to see the Oilers trade with a team with cap problems, and they got Perron. Hopefully, he lives up to the enormous expectations of fans.

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#102 madjam
July 10 2013, 03:13PM
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2 down - Just 4 more on wish list to go : Cliché and Clifford from L.A. , Henrique from Jersey and J.Scott from Buffalo . Might have to rename Craig , Big Mac..

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#103 DoubleJ
July 10 2013, 03:20PM
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A top six forward for under 4 mil. Is a good thing. He's better then PRV and he's cheaper and younger then Hemsky. It's not a bad deal IMO. Is it the perfect deal no. Oshie or Stewart a better fit? Probably.

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#104 PutzStew
July 10 2013, 03:20PM
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striatic wrote:

the Oilers are a better team than they were this morning.

Perron puts up second line points and has excellent possession stats.

he's got three years left on decent 3.8m cap hit contract.

STL may have won this trade in the long term, maybe, but for next season Edmonton will be a better team.

So who's gonna play on the 3rd line?

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#105 Ducey
July 10 2013, 03:23PM
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book¡e wrote:

EVERY DAY? Wow, you must be huge by now!

...or 15.

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#106 gravis82
July 10 2013, 03:25PM
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how about picking up morrow and penner to play bottom 6 roles on 2 year deals? Might be an overpay for a couple years, but they are better than what we have for those spots right now.

1)Hall/Nuge/Ebs 2)Perron/Ganger/Yakapov 3)Morrow/Gordon/Hemsky 4)Penner / ??? / Jones

5)smyth

Injuries will happen to a winger, which is when you move penner up and smyth in.

Anyway, just spit ballin' here.

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#107 Putzstew
July 10 2013, 03:27PM
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striatic wrote:

the Oilers are a better team than they were this morning.

Perron puts up second line points and has excellent possession stats.

he's got three years left on decent 3.8m cap hit contract.

STL may have won this trade in the long term, maybe, but for next season Edmonton will be a better team.

Provided he wants to be there.

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#108 BArmstrong
July 10 2013, 03:36PM
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@L

"He plays the body"

Are you watching the same games I'm watching?

TIMID would be a word to describe MPS's game.

Sad to see him go... happy to see Peron coming back. Plays much tougher than MPS - not afraid to slash a goal mit:)

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#109 Will
July 10 2013, 03:41PM
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Gah!! if we just had one big centre in our top six. I know our second line is going to be just as small as it was last year, but holy crap do we ever have two skilled as all hell lines.

Who knows, maybe we can still upgrade on Gags. Morrow anybody?

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#110 bazmagoo
July 10 2013, 03:43PM
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Oilers win the trade today, maybe not in the future. Maggie will have a good career, he's got lots of upside.

If MacT can manage to get an NHL bottom 6 forward for Hemsky I'm going to be mightily impressed.

Perron - RNH - Eberle

Hall - Gagner - Yakupov

Me likey!

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#111 madjam
July 10 2013, 03:47PM
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Second line could be Gagner , Perron and Hemsky or Yakupov . I wonder who is safer here , Hemsky or Yakupov ? More to come ?

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#112 Lochenzo
July 10 2013, 03:51PM
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I don't know the trade market for Hemsky, but normally it's hard to trade for a top 6 player using bottom 6 forwards and bottom 3 Dmen. Not the other way around.

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#113 onlyoil
July 10 2013, 04:05PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Oilers win the trade today, maybe not in the future. Maggie will have a good career, he's got lots of upside.

If MacT can manage to get an NHL bottom 6 forward for Hemsky I'm going to be mightily impressed.

Perron - RNH - Eberle

Hall - Gagner - Yakupov

Me likey!

I agree I think the Oilers won the trade today, they got the best player in the trade. I do however disagree with MPS having a lot of upside, I don't think his upside is really high, he can skate like the wind, hands aren't very good, he might score 20 someday, and he's a soft, soft player, that will never change it's not in his DNA. He sounds like an ex oiler Radek Dvorak to me. Basically doesn't have much effect on the game. Might score 2 goals one game and totally disappear for 10.

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#114 Time Travelling Sean
July 10 2013, 04:07PM
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YEGFan wrote:

This would be an excusable move if it was straight Pajaarvi for Perron. Perron is essentially what Pajaarvi probably will be in 2 years. The Blues are in cap trouble and are motivated to make this move, straight across was mutually beneficial.

Using the 2nd round pick makes this an absolute heist for St. Louis. Setoguchi and Pajaarvi for Perron doesn't look too good does it? That 2nd round pick is very valuable at trade deadline and before the draft. Real middle six NHLers get moved for 2nd round picks. This is an abysmal waste of resources.

Pajaarvi was a top 10 pick that wasn't anything close to a bust. He will be a quality NHLer and selling him as a spare part is a mistake that will haunt the Oilers.

Perron is a spare part? Seriously? and Setoguchi is a 15 goal scorer getting paid 4M, that's why he was moved for only a 2nd rounder.

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#115 JDP
July 10 2013, 04:17PM
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@admiralmark

You nailed it buddy...nailed it

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#116 Ryan
July 10 2013, 04:20PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

Pajaarvi wasn't signed, and he probably thought he was worth a lot more dollars than MacT wanted to pay... so he was traded.

Today at Oilers HQ:

Mact clears his desk, get's off the phone with Perron and phones Gagner's agent. "So is he gonna sign that contract or what?"

Why would Gagner sign now? If I were him, I would go to arbitration, take the one year deal, and become the youngest free agent in league history. He will still get his points as long as he plays with Yak, and since RNH will be out of the lineup for a while to start the season he should get time on the top line to pad his stats. I don't see the Oilers paying him Hall/Ebs money, but if he gets premium playing time and puts up 70+ points then some other team likely will due to his age. Unless the Oilers overpay him, there is no reason for him to sign now.

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#117 Westcoastoil
July 10 2013, 04:20PM
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@admiralmark

My knee jerk was I didn't like the trade, but you are bang on. We get an established 2nd line winger with playoff experience for an excellent young player who is 2 years behind in dev't. You have to give to get, and he in the right mix age wise.

One does get the feeling there would be a contingent on this site that would moan MPS for E. Kane would mess up our cap space

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#118 Chad
July 10 2013, 04:24PM
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@Hayek

NHL Has him at 6'0 205. So unless your statistics are better than that.. then I be damn!

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#119 bazmagoo
July 10 2013, 04:26PM
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@onlyoil

I hope you are right!

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#120 Slats
July 10 2013, 04:31PM
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Ryan wrote:

Why would Gagner sign now? If I were him, I would go to arbitration, take the one year deal, and become the youngest free agent in league history. He will still get his points as long as he plays with Yak, and since RNH will be out of the lineup for a while to start the season he should get time on the top line to pad his stats. I don't see the Oilers paying him Hall/Ebs money, but if he gets premium playing time and puts up 70+ points then some other team likely will due to his age. Unless the Oilers overpay him, there is no reason for him to sign now.

If Gags doesnt sign LT he will be traded - why would Mac T take that risk of waiting.

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#121 Ales Hallsky
July 10 2013, 04:37PM
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TWITTER GinoRedaTSN: 21 players have filed for arbitration including, Edm- Gagne, Habs-White, Sen's- Condra, Leafs- Fraser/Gunnarson, Van- Weise

Looks like Gino thinks Gagner is one-dimensional too haha

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#122 Jon
July 10 2013, 04:38PM
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Time Travelling Sean wrote:

Perron is a spare part? Seriously? and Setoguchi is a 15 goal scorer getting paid 4M, that's why he was moved for only a 2nd rounder.

I think he's saying they treated Paajarvi like a spare part, not that Perron is one.

And Setoguchi makes 3M, less than Perron, so that's not why.

Simply, Winnipeg took advantage of a team against the cap and got a player for cheap. We didn't gamble on someone beating us on an offer for Perron and paid top dollar for him.

Perhaps, if we waited we could have fleeced St. Louis for Perron like Winnipeg did for Setoguchi, or maybe some other team outbids us for him like NYI did on Clutterbuck and we don't get our guy at all.

So I'm fine with the value of the move because there's no guarantee we could have got Perron for less although it is a possibility.

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#123 YEGFan
July 10 2013, 04:47PM
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@druds

I read the article and disagree with its overall conclusion. The evidence I quoted supports my conclusion, the rest of the article does nothing to address my reasons for thinking this was a huge overpayment.

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#124 Mike Modano's Dog
July 10 2013, 04:50PM
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Chad wrote:

NHL Has him at 6'0 205. So unless your statistics are better than that.. then I be damn!

Haha...this IS hilarious.

Just an hour or two ago that very site had him listed at 5'11" 196 (or 193) pounds.

Wow, the Oilers must have made sure this change was made (St. Louis or the NHL didn't care before). He just gained an inch and 10 pounds in an hour.

Why the difference? Exactly the reason as we are writing this. Imagine the Oilers sending out a press release saying they got a player officially 'listed' at 5'11" and 193 lbs. - meaning maybe even smaller than that, we all know. The fan base wouldn't be happy with us getting smaller AND giving up a 2nd round pick. Instead they muddy the waters by putting out that he is over that mark.

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#125 michael
July 10 2013, 04:50PM
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Petrell and Teemu Hartikainen the other 2 players swapped out from the seasons end. So 10 players are now gone. With Hemsky yet to go. So 11+ may be gone by September who were here at seasons end.

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#126 Oiler_Kiwi
July 10 2013, 04:57PM
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Ducey wrote:

Perron > MPS

MPS was destined to be a very good 3rd line player who plays good defence and can chip in a few points.

Perron is a going to take Hemsky's spot. The top 2 lines are now filled out.

Yak - Gagner - Perron should be pretty good.

Part two of this trade is for Hemsky to be traded for someone to play in the bottom six.

Perron is a LW Hemsky a RW so how does he take his spot?

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#127 Taylor Gang
July 10 2013, 04:59PM
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YEGFan wrote:

This is fair.

I disagree because I believe this team's most desperate need and biggest weakness is on defence. If we gamble away our assets on slight improvements to our forwards it cripples our ability to improve the back end. It was a bad, big, gamble.

Does our defense need an improvement? Not as much as some may think, but yes. Truth is: Ference is good but he's basically a stop-gap between now and Klefbom/Nurse/J.Schultz/Marincin to step in to actually make defense a position of strength. You want defense? Be patient; it's coming up the pipelines.

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#128 toprightcorner
July 10 2013, 04:59PM
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Gordie Wayne wrote:

I like Gagner but why not trade one RFA for another:

Gagner+ D prospect(Musil?) for Bogosian.

Winnipeg is weak at center, Edmonton is weak at D, and vice-versa. A possible win-win deal?

This solves the top pairing d-man issue and improves D depth.

Now for the hole at 2 line Center - sign Grabovski to 4 year 3.5-4.0 mil per (he essentially replaces Gagner as a similar type player albeit at a cheaper rate).

Thoughts?

I agree we are a little weak at D but right now we are just as week at C with only one player who can win draws.

Grabovski similar to Gagner?? Not a chance, Gagner ploays tougher, more character, decent 2-way and lots of heart when he plays, Grabs gives you none of that.

That would make us much worse and Bogosian is at best a second pairing on most teams right now, if we are trading for a Dman, we need a top pairing guy.

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#129 oilerjed
July 10 2013, 05:01PM
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bwar wrote:

Offer sheet Paajarvi.

whats the deal with that anyway? not sure i would want to but would it be legit?

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#130 Jon
July 10 2013, 05:04PM
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Mike Modano's Dog wrote:

Haha...this IS hilarious.

Just an hour or two ago that very site had him listed at 5'11" 196 (or 193) pounds.

Wow, the Oilers must have made sure this change was made (St. Louis or the NHL didn't care before). He just gained an inch and 10 pounds in an hour.

Why the difference? Exactly the reason as we are writing this. Imagine the Oilers sending out a press release saying they got a player officially 'listed' at 5'11" and 193 lbs. - meaning maybe even smaller than that, we all know. The fan base wouldn't be happy with us getting smaller AND giving up a 2nd round pick. Instead they muddy the waters by putting out that he is over that mark.

Haha okay that is hilarious, the Oilers work fast. I saw the same 5'11 listing too lol. I do think the guy is 200+ though, seems like a bigger guy whenever I see him on the ice.

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#131 bazmagoo
July 10 2013, 05:12PM
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Funny Gagner has filed for arbitration - trade him for a legitimate top 4 defenceman and sign Grabovski.

That would definitely be bold.

Solid negotiating play by Gags though, gotta give credit where credit is due.

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#132 Rocket
July 10 2013, 05:19PM
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Paajarvi's sh% is better but Perron's corsi rel is better. Not a bad trade but giving up that 2nd round pick makes me a little nervous. Hopefully Perron's compete level is high & he develops chemistry with his new team mates.

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#133 Rocket
July 10 2013, 05:21PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Funny Gagner has filed for arbitration - trade him for a legitimate top 4 defenceman and sign Grabovski.

That would definitely be bold.

Solid negotiating play by Gags though, gotta give credit where credit is due.

Grabo has a lot that The Oilers need. I don't know why MacT isn't jumping all over that but maybe he tried. Maybe Grabovski doesn't want to go to Edmonton?

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#134 Jeffff
July 10 2013, 05:22PM
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madjam wrote:

Finally we got him , after passing on him with Nash and Plante . What a talent ! Put on one of the best performances by any player in a Memorial Cup I've seen . This kid can really excite and dazzle . Pleasant surprise . You like Gagner , then you'll love this kid . Book it -signed ,sealed and delivered . Things just took a turn for the better .

You've probably never saw him play ,you copy and paste some blurb and think he plays center in the NHL.

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#135 Craig1981
July 10 2013, 05:24PM
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Oiler_Kiwi wrote:

Perron is a LW Hemsky a RW so how does he take his spot?

TSN has him listed Perron as both LW/RW and he does shoot right so that's a natural spot. Non-hockey players worry too much about that.....personally I know myself, would prefer to play with a winger that I have chemistry with and play my off-wing than on a line without chemistry.

And I like Yak-RNH-Perron, it evens out the top two lines and Gagner shows he can excel with Hall and Eberle

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#136 Will
July 10 2013, 05:34PM
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Wonder what St. L wanted for Stewart, I'm sure Perron will do fine as an oiler but he does have the frame or the 'balls' I was looking for for the 2nd line.

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#137 Taylor Gang
July 10 2013, 05:34PM
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YEGFan wrote:

If we're waiting a few seasons before we can truly be competitive it makes no sense to send away Pajaarvi and a 2nd for Perron.

Quite frankly, Pajaarvi has as good of a chance of becoming a legit second line forward as any of those guys has of becoming a top four defenseman. Probably much better than Marincin by everything I've heard.

You clearly missed the point of what I was saying.

When I say Ference is a stop-gap, that means the team is competitive while the prospects develop. He closes the space between the team sucking and waiting for the defense to mature.

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#138 DSF
July 10 2013, 05:35PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

"They also have Dmitirij Jaskin in the pipeline and he managed to score 46G and 99P in only 5GP in the Q last season."

Impressive scoring totals - nearly 20 points per game.

Sorry. Typo.

51GP. Fixed.

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#139 Shifty203
July 10 2013, 05:41PM
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Rocket wrote:

Grabo has a lot that The Oilers need. I don't know why MacT isn't jumping all over that but maybe he tried. Maybe Grabovski doesn't want to go to Edmonton?

Rumor has it that he's enjoying his honeymoon, and not giving much attention to contract negotiations at the moment. He just got paid in advance for 4 years work, so he's probably just taking his time.

I disagree with the statement that Grab's has a lot the oilers need. Having watched a lot of leafs games, I don't see him as a very tough competitor. I've seen him give up in battles in the corners more than I've seen him commit. I don't think the Oilers are looking for just guys with grit, but guys who show up and work their butt off every night. Grab's doesn't fit that bill to me. I think Gag's is much better at this. He may have some crappy nights, but he's still giving everything he's got, and teammates tend to notice that and step up their own games to help.

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#140 olderthendirt
July 10 2013, 05:43PM
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Good bye MPS. Jury is still out but you might delevope into a regular in the NHL someday. Potential is not a starter. Perron is a known quanty and will get a chance to play with two hard working, highly skilled players and I would expect better numbers from him. Good trade, as much as i was cheering for MPS to become a player.

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#141 OilClog
July 10 2013, 05:49PM
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It's a good move for the Oilers, Perron comes from a franchise that quickly turned a rebuild around.

He is another outside voice within the dressing room, that will hopefully be able to help instill a winning culture.

He's only 25 FFS!? Yes, MPS has great potential.. but Perron is currently the far superior player.. if MacT doesn't put the 2nd on the table.. another team walks in and does. We then lose out, and you all cry and whine DSF's styles.

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#142 OilClog
July 10 2013, 05:51PM
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tsnTurningpoint wrote:

Yeah but Mac t doesn't make much sense. On draft day he trades away 2nd round pick for late draft picks. So nothing he has done makes sense. Instead of keeping that 2nd pick in a draft where we coulda got an NHL player we trade for depth ad get minor league guys that will never see ice time in an nhl team. So obviously he doesn't care about 2nd round picks. Those 4th and 5th are what matters........makes no sense

I'd take Perron everyday of the week over Setoguchi. You really want to add Setoguchi to the locker room? There is a reason more then money that he was offloaded. Twice.

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#143 nuge2nail
July 10 2013, 05:58PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

MacT turned a 3rd line inconsistent below average player into a 25 year old legitimate consistent 2nd liner.

It's pretty simple.

2nd Line Lw > 3rd Line Lw

In fact I believe the Oilers if they wanted could trade Perron for Coburn one for one.

Great trade by MacT taking advantage of a team with cap issues.

One day Magnus may become a 20 goal scoring, 60 point player but we have that in Perron now. The entire second line will be more productive with Perron in the lineup, great move.

Second trade oilers clearly win in a decade. Penner was the first and we haven't even seen any return from that trade yet.

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#144 K_Mart
July 10 2013, 06:01PM
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Great move. Perron is as good as I ever hoped Paajarvi would be. This is like fast forwarding MPS' development 3 yrs and being guaranteed that he pans out.

Top six are filled out. Hemsky will be traded to fill out the bottom six. If that goes well, we are definitely improved on compared to last year. Playoffs? Probably not, but maybe... I'll wait and see how the hem sky trade goes.

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#145 K_Mart
July 10 2013, 06:01PM
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Great move. Perron is as good as I ever hoped Paajarvi would be. This is like fast forwarding MPS' development 3 yrs and being guaranteed that he pans out.

Top six are filled out. Hemsky will be traded to fill out the bottom six. If that goes well, we are definitely improved on compared to last year. Playoffs? Probably not, but maybe... I'll wait and see how the hem sky trade goes.

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#146 nuge2nail
July 10 2013, 06:01PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

Filling in the top six lw spot was the hardest thing macT had to do this summer. That's done.

Filling in the rest of the bottom 6 will be easy. Sign Morrow and trade Hemsky for a third liner plus a draft pick. Ference, Gordan, Perron all hate to lose and compete every shift, these guys will have a huge impact on the team this year.

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#147 Smokey
July 10 2013, 06:10PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Oilers win the trade today, maybe not in the future. Maggie will have a good career, he's got lots of upside.

If MacT can manage to get an NHL bottom 6 forward for Hemsky I'm going to be mightily impressed.

Perron - RNH - Eberle

Hall - Gagner - Yakupov

Me likey!

I think the I'll like. Just getting over my Nichuskin denial first. Just thinking.we could of had Ebs Hall, Yakcity Nicky, Perron Hemsky wingers. This forward group could of been lightning in a bottle. Screw defence like Philly. 9-6 games every night.

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#148 Butters
July 10 2013, 06:12PM
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Can anyone tell me what the cutoff is for a player to have size? Also, is there a metric for gritty, like number of facewashes per game or something like that?

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#149 toprightcorner
July 10 2013, 06:18PM
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For anyone here that define's MacT making a "BOLD MOVE" as trading for 90 pt a season forward or a 60 pt a season defensman please log off the site now!!

.......hey...where did everybody go????????

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#150 Smokey
July 10 2013, 06:21PM
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toprightcorner wrote:

So the Oilers need a guy who is 20 lbs lighter, plays less minutes, can't kill penalties, plays soft, and not know as a good guy in the room. In the last 6 seasons, Sam has 50 more pts in only 20 more games.

Only advantage is a 7% improvements FO draws over past 2 years.

Grabovski is NOT the type of centre the Oilers need if they trade Gagner as it would be a step backwards

Before Grabbo was Carlyle'd, arguing whether Gagner or Grabbo was a silly debate. Gagner is a better offensive 5x5 and powerplay guy now.

Grabbo can check, corsi numbers and underlying number use to be very positive. Grabbo is faster, can get on a forecheck, can hit on forecheck, is better in the faceoff dot, has defensive awareness .

Fighting may go to Gagner, hes a good scrapper. Still love the time he embarrassed Kesler, stood in their against Beauchemin, fought both Jokinen and Conroy if I recall. Not sure who Grabbo has on the fight.card. I'd take a.flyer on grabbo for a couple years.

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