PERRON FOR PAAJARVI

Robin Brownlee
July 10 2013 02:46PM

Whether you deem it the bold move GM Craig MacTavish talked about, the Edmonton Oilers today made their most substantial move of this off-season, acquiring left winger David Perron from the St. Louis Blues for Magnus Paajarvi and a draft pick.

The Oilers get Perron, 25, who has 198 points in 340 NHL games with the Blues, including 10-15-25 in 48 games this season. In exchange, St. Louis gets Paajarvi, who was selected 10th overall by the Oilers in 2009, and a second-round draft pick.

Perron, six feet and 200 pounds, has three years remaining on a contract that pays him $3.5 million next season and carries a cap hit of $3,812.500 for the balance of the term.

More to come.

FROM THE OILERS

News release: "General Manager Craig MacTavish announced today the Edmonton Oilers have acquired left wing David Perron from the St. Louis Blues in exchange for left wing Magnus Paajarvi and a 2nd round selection in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft.

"Perron, 25, has spent the past six seasons with the St. Louis Blues organization, registering 198 points (84G, 114A) and 232 penalty minutes in 340 games with the Blues.

"In 2012-13, the 6'0", 205-pound, forward recorded 25 points (10G, 15A) and 44 penalty minutes in 48 games with St. Louis. He added two assists in six playoff games.

"The native of Sherbrooke, Quebec played junior hockey in the QMJHL with the Lewiston MAINEiacs for one season, registering 83 points (39G, 44A) in 70 games leading all rookies in the league that season in goals.

"Perron was originally selected by St. Louis in the 1st round, 26th overall in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft."

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#51 The Soup Fascist
July 10 2013, 03:30PM
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L wrote:

This is soo bad... MPS was the second hardest worker behind hall last year. He plays the body and could be a great 2 line winger. He has size and plays the body. I would think that MPS for Perron was a bad enough trade , but to throw in a 2nd rounder just makes it worse. Loved what MacT did up to this point. Adding a small forward with concussion issues does not seem like a good move. " Bold", yes. Magnus was a solid player and will definately be missed.

What is your reference material that deemed MPS the 2nd hardest worker?

"He has size and plays the body"??

When??? .... 64 hits in 163 NHL games. My Grandma throws more hits getting to the checkout line at Sobey's on senior discount Tuesdays.

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#52 Slats
July 10 2013, 03:31PM
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I like that while MAC T respects are personnel but he does not fall in love with our personnel so that he suffers from decision/deal paralysis and then has the guts to make a trade.

We have missed the playoffs for way too long. We have the opportunity to make the changes to get better and be different under a new coach.

PRV is a good young talent - he may have been much different under Eakins - maybe. He is however still a big "?". Perron is more certain and he should be an impact player now. PRV may be great or he may stay what he always has been for the Oilers "a player with great potential"

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#53 bwar
July 10 2013, 03:31PM
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Offer sheet Paajarvi.

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#54 Ales Hallsky
July 10 2013, 03:31PM
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What if you think Gagner is soft and one dimensional?

Then you probably spell it Gagne

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#55 BArmstrong
July 10 2013, 03:36PM
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@L

"He plays the body"

Are you watching the same games I'm watching?

TIMID would be a word to describe MPS's game.

Sad to see him go... happy to see Peron coming back. Plays much tougher than MPS - not afraid to slash a goal mit:)

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#56 ghostofberanek
July 10 2013, 03:36PM
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bwar wrote:

Offer sheet Paajarvi.

What a delightfully evil suggestion. You win the internet today!

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#57 Shredder
July 10 2013, 03:37PM
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Not sure if this is BOLD? Just look above at the debate going on. Let's face it...both players are good players. I like them both. Perron is definitely the better player today, and can put up more points on a more defensively focused team. Further, Perron has the defensive side of the game down because he's played on a very defensively focused team. PRV is a great prospect who can play in the NHL, but everything is dependant on him learning more...PRV may be able to play defensively but only because he cheats on defense and gives up offense. A great prospect who will learn how to balance that down the road, but Perron is much more skilled...watch his point totals go up big time.

The one scary point is the concussion history, but if Crosby and Hall can get past that then I'm not going to be too worried. Perron is gritter, has better hands and is more proven, but the future is more wide open for PRV. Good trade MacT. Now for the next deal...Hemsky for......

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#58 Bucknuck
July 10 2013, 03:39PM
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Pajaarvi wasn't signed, and he probably thought he was worth a lot more dollars than MacT wanted to pay... so he was traded.

Today at Oilers HQ:

Mact clears his desk, get's off the phone with Perron and phones Gagner's agent. "So is he gonna sign that contract or what?"

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#59 Lochenzo
July 10 2013, 03:40PM
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bwar wrote:

Offer sheet Paajarvi.

Ha, ha, that would be both BOLD and BEAUTIFUL!!

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#60 Bucknuck
July 10 2013, 03:41PM
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Then you probably spell it Gagne

props man... mad props.

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#61 Will
July 10 2013, 03:41PM
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Gah!! if we just had one big centre in our top six. I know our second line is going to be just as small as it was last year, but holy crap do we ever have two skilled as all hell lines.

Who knows, maybe we can still upgrade on Gags. Morrow anybody?

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#62 Motomoto
July 10 2013, 03:41PM
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I think this is a really solid move by Mact. He get's a guy who competes like hell and can score. We know what we get with this guy if his health holds up. Seems to be over concussion issues. What do we get with MPS? A guy that skates like hell and doesn't accomplish much. I'm not saying he won't be a decent player down the road but I'm sick of losing. I want to win and I'm glad Mact is too. As far as the second pick, you have to give to get and we got the best player.

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#63 Lochenzo
July 10 2013, 03:42PM
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Sam Gagner had half the team's fights last year until Brown showed up.

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#64 bazmagoo
July 10 2013, 03:43PM
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Oilers win the trade today, maybe not in the future. Maggie will have a good career, he's got lots of upside.

If MacT can manage to get an NHL bottom 6 forward for Hemsky I'm going to be mightily impressed.

Perron - RNH - Eberle

Hall - Gagner - Yakupov

Me likey!

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#65 madjam
July 10 2013, 03:47PM
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Second line could be Gagner , Perron and Hemsky or Yakupov . I wonder who is safer here , Hemsky or Yakupov ? More to come ?

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#66 Lochenzo
July 10 2013, 03:51PM
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I don't know the trade market for Hemsky, but normally it's hard to trade for a top 6 player using bottom 6 forwards and bottom 3 Dmen. Not the other way around.

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#67 The Soup Fascist
July 10 2013, 03:53PM
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madjam wrote:

Second line could be Gagner , Perron and Hemsky or Yakupov . I wonder who is safer here , Hemsky or Yakupov ? More to come ?

Is this a trick question?

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#68 YEGFan
July 10 2013, 03:59PM
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This would be an excusable move if it was straight Pajaarvi for Perron. Perron is essentially what Pajaarvi probably will be in 2 years. The Blues are in cap trouble and are motivated to make this move, straight across was mutually beneficial.

Using the 2nd round pick makes this an absolute heist for St. Louis. Setoguchi and Pajaarvi for Perron doesn't look too good does it? That 2nd round pick is very valuable at trade deadline and before the draft. Real middle six NHLers get moved for 2nd round picks. This is an abysmal waste of resources.

Pajaarvi was a top 10 pick that wasn't anything close to a bust. He will be a quality NHLer and selling him as a spare part is a mistake that will haunt the Oilers.

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#69 Gordie Wayne
July 10 2013, 04:02PM
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I like Gagner but why not trade one RFA for another:

Gagner+ D prospect(Musil?) for Bogosian.

Winnipeg is weak at center, Edmonton is weak at D, and vice-versa. A possible win-win deal?

This solves the top pairing d-man issue and improves D depth.

Now for the hole at 2 line Center - sign Grabovski to 4 year 3.5-4.0 mil per (he essentially replaces Gagner as a similar type player albeit at a cheaper rate).

Thoughts?

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#70 StHenriOilBomb
July 10 2013, 04:03PM
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YEGFan wrote:

This would be an excusable move if it was straight Pajaarvi for Perron. Perron is essentially what Pajaarvi probably will be in 2 years. The Blues are in cap trouble and are motivated to make this move, straight across was mutually beneficial.

Using the 2nd round pick makes this an absolute heist for St. Louis. Setoguchi and Pajaarvi for Perron doesn't look too good does it? That 2nd round pick is very valuable at trade deadline and before the draft. Real middle six NHLers get moved for 2nd round picks. This is an abysmal waste of resources.

Pajaarvi was a top 10 pick that wasn't anything close to a bust. He will be a quality NHLer and selling him as a spare part is a mistake that will haunt the Oilers.

Expecting that every prospect is going to become a blue chip player is a mistake that is hurting the Oilers now.

Even if what you say is correct - that Paajarvi will be Perron in 2 years, then the Oilers just paid a 2nd round pick for the ability to reduce their risk, speed up the development timeline, and diversify the ages and experiences of the team.

Completely worth it.

I like MPS. I hope he does well.

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#71 YEGFan
July 10 2013, 04:04PM
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From tsn.ca:

"Consider that, last season, Paajarvi had 1.79 shots per game and 16 points in 593 minutes of ice time, which works out to 1.62 points per 60 minutes. Perron, the established scorer, with 25 points in 864 minutes, had 1.74 points per 60 minutes; not much of a difference. It's fair, then, to consider that Paajarvi could continue to develop into a role where he at least provides adequate secondary scoring."

This is bad bad bad.

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#72 onlyoil
July 10 2013, 04:05PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Oilers win the trade today, maybe not in the future. Maggie will have a good career, he's got lots of upside.

If MacT can manage to get an NHL bottom 6 forward for Hemsky I'm going to be mightily impressed.

Perron - RNH - Eberle

Hall - Gagner - Yakupov

Me likey!

I agree I think the Oilers won the trade today, they got the best player in the trade. I do however disagree with MPS having a lot of upside, I don't think his upside is really high, he can skate like the wind, hands aren't very good, he might score 20 someday, and he's a soft, soft player, that will never change it's not in his DNA. He sounds like an ex oiler Radek Dvorak to me. Basically doesn't have much effect on the game. Might score 2 goals one game and totally disappear for 10.

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#73 JDP
July 10 2013, 04:07PM
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For all you boneheads who think this was a bad deal.....would you rather lose and do nothing or lose and atleast attempt to make your hockey team better?

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#74 Time Travelling Sean
July 10 2013, 04:07PM
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YEGFan wrote:

This would be an excusable move if it was straight Pajaarvi for Perron. Perron is essentially what Pajaarvi probably will be in 2 years. The Blues are in cap trouble and are motivated to make this move, straight across was mutually beneficial.

Using the 2nd round pick makes this an absolute heist for St. Louis. Setoguchi and Pajaarvi for Perron doesn't look too good does it? That 2nd round pick is very valuable at trade deadline and before the draft. Real middle six NHLers get moved for 2nd round picks. This is an abysmal waste of resources.

Pajaarvi was a top 10 pick that wasn't anything close to a bust. He will be a quality NHLer and selling him as a spare part is a mistake that will haunt the Oilers.

Perron is a spare part? Seriously? and Setoguchi is a 15 goal scorer getting paid 4M, that's why he was moved for only a 2nd rounder.

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#75 Westcoastoil
July 10 2013, 04:09PM
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I'm confused - how could MacT make this deal after he told everyone he wanted to add to his top 6 mix? I thought that was impossible ~ he must know voodoo!

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#76 Supernova
July 10 2013, 04:13PM
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YEGFan wrote:

This would be an excusable move if it was straight Pajaarvi for Perron. Perron is essentially what Pajaarvi probably will be in 2 years. The Blues are in cap trouble and are motivated to make this move, straight across was mutually beneficial.

Using the 2nd round pick makes this an absolute heist for St. Louis. Setoguchi and Pajaarvi for Perron doesn't look too good does it? That 2nd round pick is very valuable at trade deadline and before the draft. Real middle six NHLers get moved for 2nd round picks. This is an abysmal waste of resources.

Pajaarvi was a top 10 pick that wasn't anything close to a bust. He will be a quality NHLer and selling him as a spare part is a mistake that will haunt the Oilers.

well I understand your argument for asset management. Different teams do things differently and you are cherry picking trades (are you DSF).

Minny in a cap crunch is forced to buyout Gilbert because Heaatley is injured and cant be bought out. They trade Clutterbuck because he will be too pricy to sign. They did very well in this trade in getting Neideritter, but they gave up a 3rd rounder. then in order to create more space because they signed Matt Cooke ( which is strange as he is older and isn't a upgrade, and signed for the essentially the same money as clutterbuck) So in need of cap space they ship Setoguchi for a pick, Setoguchi will be a UFA next year and ask for more $$.

St.louis in need of cap space need a lower price player and or prospects.

Even if we had gotten Setoguchi from Minnesota for a 2nd. We can almost guarentee that St. Louis would not have wanted Magnus and Setoguchi. Because of cap space.

2nd round picks are valuable i agree but they have their pick value at different times. Look at our last 5 years of 2nd round picks and tell me who has even come close to succeeding.

We need to get better now, not maybe later. Besides will all of our Defenceman, we can likely move one of them (nick Schultz) for a 2nd rounder when it comes down to it.

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#77 admiralmark
July 10 2013, 04:13PM
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YEGFan wrote:

From tsn.ca:

"Consider that, last season, Paajarvi had 1.79 shots per game and 16 points in 593 minutes of ice time, which works out to 1.62 points per 60 minutes. Perron, the established scorer, with 25 points in 864 minutes, had 1.74 points per 60 minutes; not much of a difference. It's fair, then, to consider that Paajarvi could continue to develop into a role where he at least provides adequate secondary scoring."

This is bad bad bad.

So MacT doesn't do enough to better this team for next season. Then he gets knocked for pulling off a deal that instantly makes this team better and gets knocked for giving up too much?! This site is full of whiners. When you read all these posters that think this was a poor deal the comments are full of "potential" and "could be" or might turn out... "could develop about Paajarvi.. The thing is Perron "IS" already an established 2nd line player. GM's don't just give these guys away.. even ones against the cap... why? Because they have 25 other GM's interested in a 2nd line NHL'er... Will i miss Paajarvi? of course.. Great attitude, hard worker.. and yes potential.. But potential doesnt mean guaranteed... What i can guarantee is today we got the better player. Good move MacT.

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#78 Taylor Gang
July 10 2013, 04:17PM
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YEGFan wrote:

From tsn.ca:

"Consider that, last season, Paajarvi had 1.79 shots per game and 16 points in 593 minutes of ice time, which works out to 1.62 points per 60 minutes. Perron, the established scorer, with 25 points in 864 minutes, had 1.74 points per 60 minutes; not much of a difference. It's fair, then, to consider that Paajarvi could continue to develop into a role where he at least provides adequate secondary scoring."

This is bad bad bad.

If you don't shoot you don't get goals, it's as simple as that. I don't give two f**ks about the ratio in which they score compared to your shots. Perron gets more points, end of story.

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#79 JDP
July 10 2013, 04:17PM
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You nailed it buddy...nailed it

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#80 2004Z06
July 10 2013, 04:18PM
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Tyler wrote:

Love that we got Perron. Hate hate HATE that it cost us PRV. Is this an upgrade? Not by much. I'd bet money that PRV or Perron put up the same amount of points playing on a line with Gagner and Yak. Plus, PRV is a winger, who is young, is going to be on a value contract (see way less that 3.8million) and I also feel like HE JUST figured out how to score and be effective in this league. This makes no sense to me. Keep PRV for 3L, move the 2014 2nd, and throw in 2014 1st, or a D prospect not named Klefbom, Nurse, Maricine. If cost Maricine, fine, but not PRV. Bad trade in my books. I think we'll regret this one down the line.

How much further down the line do you want to wait for this team to be competetive? We need to get some bonafide NHL'ers to win NOW! We cannot keep this perpetual draft and develop train going! Aty some point you have to leverage the future for the present. I like MPS alot, but you need to give up something of value to get something and this trade benefits both teams.

Only way this goes bad is if Peron has more injury issues.

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#81 Ryan
July 10 2013, 04:20PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

Pajaarvi wasn't signed, and he probably thought he was worth a lot more dollars than MacT wanted to pay... so he was traded.

Today at Oilers HQ:

Mact clears his desk, get's off the phone with Perron and phones Gagner's agent. "So is he gonna sign that contract or what?"

Why would Gagner sign now? If I were him, I would go to arbitration, take the one year deal, and become the youngest free agent in league history. He will still get his points as long as he plays with Yak, and since RNH will be out of the lineup for a while to start the season he should get time on the top line to pad his stats. I don't see the Oilers paying him Hall/Ebs money, but if he gets premium playing time and puts up 70+ points then some other team likely will due to his age. Unless the Oilers overpay him, there is no reason for him to sign now.

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#82 Westcoastoil
July 10 2013, 04:20PM
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@admiralmark

My knee jerk was I didn't like the trade, but you are bang on. We get an established 2nd line winger with playoff experience for an excellent young player who is 2 years behind in dev't. You have to give to get, and he in the right mix age wise.

One does get the feeling there would be a contingent on this site that would moan MPS for E. Kane would mess up our cap space

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#83 Craig1981
July 10 2013, 04:24PM
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@admiralmark

Agree, I hate all the people that look only at stats. Hockey isn't Moneyball. MacT said I wanted to remove players that were at best non-factors and replace them with those who were. If you look past stats that's exactly what he did today.

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#84 Chad
July 10 2013, 04:24PM
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@Hayek

NHL Has him at 6'0 205. So unless your statistics are better than that.. then I be damn!

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#85 Ducey
July 10 2013, 04:25PM
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bwar wrote:

Offer sheet Paajarvi.

Just gave away our second round pick. The Oilers can only offer up to $1.6 million (probably not enough) or over $3.3 million (definitely too much).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offer_sheet

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#86 bazmagoo
July 10 2013, 04:26PM
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@onlyoil

I hope you are right!

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#87 Ryan2
July 10 2013, 04:27PM
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2004Z06 wrote:

How much further down the line do you want to wait for this team to be competetive? We need to get some bonafide NHL'ers to win NOW! We cannot keep this perpetual draft and develop train going! Aty some point you have to leverage the future for the present. I like MPS alot, but you need to give up something of value to get something and this trade benefits both teams.

Only way this goes bad is if Peron has more injury issues.

You mean when Perron gets injured, not if. He is not built solidly enough to play the way he does without eventually wearing down. Check out this article from a St. Louis source re: inury risk: http://www.kmov.com/sports/hockey/Bles-trade-David-Perron-to-Oilers-214967511.html

What I don't like about this deal is this - the Blues were desperate to create cap space to keep Steward and Pietrangelo, and MacT gave them that AND still managed to be the one to overpay. Call it bold if you like, but this move does not get them any closer to a playoff team than keeping MPS would have. The blue line is still an issue, and the bottom six forwards are a mess.

If he was a centerman then I could understand it as addressing a need, but right now the Oilers are still weak down the middle even when RNH comes back. Not a smart use of assets at all.

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#88 Slats
July 10 2013, 04:31PM
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Ryan wrote:

Why would Gagner sign now? If I were him, I would go to arbitration, take the one year deal, and become the youngest free agent in league history. He will still get his points as long as he plays with Yak, and since RNH will be out of the lineup for a while to start the season he should get time on the top line to pad his stats. I don't see the Oilers paying him Hall/Ebs money, but if he gets premium playing time and puts up 70+ points then some other team likely will due to his age. Unless the Oilers overpay him, there is no reason for him to sign now.

If Gags doesnt sign LT he will be traded - why would Mac T take that risk of waiting.

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#89 EHH Team
July 10 2013, 04:36PM
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I was looking forward to see IF PRV would develop further this year. I thought he came on quite well in the last month of the season.

Having said that, I think Perron the trade is fair, although the top six has gotten smaller, not bigger.

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#90 Ales Hallsky
July 10 2013, 04:37PM
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TWITTER GinoRedaTSN: 21 players have filed for arbitration including, Edm- Gagne, Habs-White, Sen's- Condra, Leafs- Fraser/Gunnarson, Van- Weise

Looks like Gino thinks Gagner is one-dimensional too haha

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#91 Tyler
July 10 2013, 04:38PM
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If any of you think this is a bad trade, you probably don't know much about hockey. Magnus was a non-factor on one of the worst teams in the NHL. He will have a long career as a 3rd liner because he can skate fast and kill penaltys. He will NEVER be a top6 guy. Look at his numbers outside the NHL. He has NEVER been a point guy. He doesn't have the hands or shot, it's that simple.

Perron has established himself. He could play top6 minutes on virtually any team in the league when he's healthy. Magnus had a hard time cracking the oilers line-up. Would Magnus even be in the NHL if he was part of Pittsburg or Chicagos organization?? Probably not and even if he was it would be 4th line. Perron on the other hand would probably be in there top6, 3rd line at the very least. If Perron stays healthy this is a great trade.

I understand a lot of you have a soft spot for Magnus because he was part of the initial rebuild but face the facts... He's a 3rd liner who kills penaltys on his best days...

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#92 Jon
July 10 2013, 04:38PM
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Time Travelling Sean wrote:

Perron is a spare part? Seriously? and Setoguchi is a 15 goal scorer getting paid 4M, that's why he was moved for only a 2nd rounder.

I think he's saying they treated Paajarvi like a spare part, not that Perron is one.

And Setoguchi makes 3M, less than Perron, so that's not why.

Simply, Winnipeg took advantage of a team against the cap and got a player for cheap. We didn't gamble on someone beating us on an offer for Perron and paid top dollar for him.

Perhaps, if we waited we could have fleeced St. Louis for Perron like Winnipeg did for Setoguchi, or maybe some other team outbids us for him like NYI did on Clutterbuck and we don't get our guy at all.

So I'm fine with the value of the move because there's no guarantee we could have got Perron for less although it is a possibility.

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#93 EHH Team
July 10 2013, 04:39PM
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Ales Hallsky wrote:

TWITTER GinoRedaTSN: 21 players have filed for arbitration including, Edm- Gagne, Habs-White, Sen's- Condra, Leafs- Fraser/Gunnarson, Van- Weise

Looks like Gino thinks Gagner is one-dimensional too haha

So Gino is one of those who thinks Simon Gagne plays for the Oil.

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#94 shea78
July 10 2013, 04:41PM
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Slats Dick wrote:

I have him at 91 kgs and 1.83M

hahahaha.

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#95 druds
July 10 2013, 04:44PM
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YEGFan wrote:

From tsn.ca:

"Consider that, last season, Paajarvi had 1.79 shots per game and 16 points in 593 minutes of ice time, which works out to 1.62 points per 60 minutes. Perron, the established scorer, with 25 points in 864 minutes, had 1.74 points per 60 minutes; not much of a difference. It's fair, then, to consider that Paajarvi could continue to develop into a role where he at least provides adequate secondary scoring."

This is bad bad bad.

The article you quote from states that the deal was good for both teams, you picked out the one small paragraph that seems to suggest the writer thought the deal was bad, you sir are an ass and you need to be wiped and flushed

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#96 YEGFan
July 10 2013, 04:44PM
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@Supernova

It is a cherry picked trade, but it is also a recent trade and a precise assessment of the current value for 2nd round picks.

If you compare Setoguchi's numbers with Perron's you will see they are very similar, including last season, where Setoguchi out scored Perron. Not only that, but Perron is more expensive. A longer term contract is a double edged sword, I can understand why someone would argue it's a benefit for having Perron, but a history of concussions makes the opposite argument pretty reasonable.

It is fair and reasonable to argue that Perron for a 2nd round pick is what Armstrong had to stomach in order to keep Pietrangelo and Stewart. The Oilers paid double the fair price for what is probably (but not certainly) an improvement this year. Clarkson at 6M for 6 years would have made this team better this season, but over paying is stupid no matter how you look at it.

Perron is an improvement over Pajaarvi, but hardly a safe or massive one over the term of his contract. I cannot see how anyone justifies the price it cost.

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#97 michael
July 10 2013, 04:46PM
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Lets all hold our pee until we see what Perron brings to the table. MP is a prospect. He may or may not perform to the level he was drafted at but MacT's move today showed me he is making good on the promise to make this team competitive. Giving Dallas Eakins another legitimate NHLer to plug into his top 9 will go a long way to improving this team sooner than later. I'll reserve judgement on Perron and we'll see by the end of next year what we bargained for. Till then MacT has to still ensure Hemsky is not here in September.If that happens we'll still be ahead and for me that is what now player 10 gone from last years roster?

Whitney,MP,NK,Peckham,Belanger,Horcoff,Smithson,Fistric,??.

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#98 YEGFan
July 10 2013, 04:47PM
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@druds

I read the article and disagree with its overall conclusion. The evidence I quoted supports my conclusion, the rest of the article does nothing to address my reasons for thinking this was a huge overpayment.

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#99 Mike Modano's Dog
July 10 2013, 04:50PM
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Chad wrote:

NHL Has him at 6'0 205. So unless your statistics are better than that.. then I be damn!

Haha...this IS hilarious.

Just an hour or two ago that very site had him listed at 5'11" 196 (or 193) pounds.

Wow, the Oilers must have made sure this change was made (St. Louis or the NHL didn't care before). He just gained an inch and 10 pounds in an hour.

Why the difference? Exactly the reason as we are writing this. Imagine the Oilers sending out a press release saying they got a player officially 'listed' at 5'11" and 193 lbs. - meaning maybe even smaller than that, we all know. The fan base wouldn't be happy with us getting smaller AND giving up a 2nd round pick. Instead they muddy the waters by putting out that he is over that mark.

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#100 michael
July 10 2013, 04:50PM
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Petrell and Teemu Hartikainen the other 2 players swapped out from the seasons end. So 10 players are now gone. With Hemsky yet to go. So 11+ may be gone by September who were here at seasons end.

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