PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE

Lowetide
July 11 2013 07:42PM

The Edmonton Oilers have added some impressive names to their roster so far this summer, and still have cap room, assets to trade and holes to fill. All they need is opportunities, and they may still be out there.

BIG OPPORTUNITY

The Oilers this evening have $7.6M in cap room and have to sign Sam Gagner (and Taylor Fedun if there's money left over). They are also likely to trade Ales Hemsky and his $5M cap hit (although they could also make a deal while retaining as much as $2.5M in 83 cap) although that's not a slam dunk. It's probably reasonable to estimate the Oilers cap number (after Gagner's signing and the Hemsky deal) to be in the $5M range.

FLYERS STILL HAVE PROBLEMS

You'll recall the Oilers spent much of draft day attempting to pry Braydon Coburn from the Philadelphia Flyers. Many days later, the Flyers are still trying to find a way out of cap hell and the Coburn option remains according to Frank Seravalli from the Philadelphia Daily News.

  • Seravalli: "St. Louis didn't want to move 25-year-old forward David Perron ($3.8 million) yesterday, but dealt him to Edmonton for Magnus Paajarvi to free up much-needed space. Many believe the Blues could have gotten more for Perron if teams didn't already know St. Louis general manager Doug Armstrong was being forced to make a move to try and re-sign restricted free agent blue liner Alex Pietrangelo. (Flyers GM Paul) Holmgren could be in the same situation with Coburn. Don't be surprised if a trade pops out of the blue."

Would the Oilers have interest? One would think so based the number of conversations Holmgren and Oilers GM Craig MacTavish had during the draft. A Perron-Paajarvi style trade for Coburn (cap hit $4.5M times three years) might mean Edmonton offers a less expensive player to the Flyers in return.

NEW JERSEY HAS NEW PROBLEMS

The news today that Ilya Kovalchuk has retired to the KHL (for more money!!!) means Lou and the Devils are on the lookout for replacement talent. Again the $2.5M Hemsky (Oilers would take on half of the cap) might have real value, and perhaps Edmonton could receive some useful talent (Olesz, Loktionov) and  draft picks for future use.

ARBITRATION LIST

Adding to the fun is the new arbitration list, which includes four Los Angeles Kings (who have just over $5M in cap space). Jake Muzzin, anyone?

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

The Oilers spent much of draft weekend trying to find a trade partner. We know they pursued Braydon Coburn and we know the St. Louis Blues made David Perron available leading into the draft. On the other side of free agency, it looks as though some of those same teams are now calling the Oilers. Patience is a virtue.

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#101 RT
July 12 2013, 12:15PM
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You need to give some level of quality asset to get one in return. Also to note, we typically over-estimate the attractiveness of our players to other teams.

If Klefbom looks to be that good in 2 years time, I would do this:

Coburn for Petry and a prospect (Fedun? Simpson?)

Run: Coburn Ference Smid J Schultz Below/ Klefbom N Schultz

Adds more experience, sandpaper and balance to the lineup and lets Klefbom acclimate slowly. If he earns more earlier, so be it.

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#102 Will
July 12 2013, 12:29PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

If they can trade Horcoff and not eat salary, I can't see why they couldn't do the same for Hemsky. It's a low risk one year contract on a high end player. Second line on a good team, 1st line on a bad one (like, say... Calgary).

He's worth 5M.

They should be able to get something for him... it just won't be a from a team with a cap squeeze, or it will be a big contract coming back.

Unrelated to Hemsky: the Philly trade made sense when we had MPS and second round picks to dangle. Now that he's gone I don't know what we have that they would want. Nick Schultz is too expensive to suit their needs. Petry? I wouldn't trade him right now. He is definitely a top four defender and could be a top two if he keeps improving.

I can't get Yandle out of my head.

Hemsky 2014 1st rounder and say Gernat or Fedune get it done?

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#103 WhattaMike
July 12 2013, 12:30PM
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Yep...we have done well with getting some significant new players for the Oilers and I am very happy so far.

IMO, Hemsky has value of being a top 1st or 2nd line winger somewhere else...but...he never scores at a top pace all season long (for sure during these last years) and his injury prone status brings him down a bit value-wise as well. That being said, Hemsky was a pleasure to watch these many years when he was rocking and rolling and I hope that he does well if or when he gets dealt.

Philly ain't gonna take on his contract at this time even with any type retained salary included so they are out for any Hemsky type deal. NJ just came into play now for being a trade partner with the selfishness of Kovalchuk coming out now...cause rumours are out that he ain't leaving just to play at home in the KHL, he is getting a ton or more money to be in the KHL/at home.

In Edm he would be sent to the third line and I believe he does not like that one bit so it becomes amicable that he wants toget moved/the Oilers want to move him.

I would not want to give up Hemsky for any retained salary type deal. He is worth his money when he plays at high end skill. I also do not think Gagner is worth $5 mil or plus either and he should be on his way out by the trade deadline if he gets that thru arbitration.

I still think tho that the NYI, Buf, Carolina, Columbus or Nasville are the better teams to talk with as LA would not want to let the Oilers (in the same division) have one of their guys. Philly is still there somewhere too but for of a different type deal for one of Coburn and/or also even Schenn/Couturier. Heck, Maxime Talbot would fit great as the 4th line centre here as well.

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#104 CaptainLander
July 12 2013, 12:42PM
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If I am NJ I look hard at Hemmer.

Morrow Grabbo Hemmer

Serviceable line all on 1 years deals.

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#105 DSF
July 12 2013, 01:34PM
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OilersBrass wrote:

Hasn't shown the ability to put up points at any level?

The kid was a beast in World Tournaments. He put up plenty of points at the international level.

He put up a ton of those points against Norway.

You will note he was not even invited to the last Word Championship.

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#106 RJ
July 12 2013, 01:37PM
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Sign Gagner and trade him to NJ.

I like Sam. But his new contract is not going to be the greatest; either a one-year, high dollar contract, or a longer term contract at a rate higher than the Oilers want to pay. If there was a long-term contract at a team-friendly rate, there would already be a deal in place.

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#107 Bucknuck
July 12 2013, 02:32PM
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DonDon wrote:

Bucknuck

"If they can trade Horcoff and not eat salary, I can't see why they couldn't do the same for Hemsky. It's a low risk one year contract on a high end player. Second line on a good team, 1st line on a bad one (like, say... Calgary).

He's worth 5M."

If you believe this is the case, then why hasn't MacT been able to move Hemsky? If one team wants to sell, worth relates to the buyer, not the seller. It is very probable that MacT is now aware of Hemsky's worth -- to buyers. It seems Hemsky has been a quickly depreciating asset, no longer a high end player.

I'm sure he has been able to move him... but the return probably hasn't been right. Just because he hasn't moved him yet doesn't mean he doesn't have value.

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#108 Bucknuck
July 12 2013, 05:56PM
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madjam wrote:

He , like almost all players , pay their agent to play hardball and in his interests to get the best deal , and his agent lost trying to squeeze an extra $100,00 - as Oilers decided to let him go , rightly or wrongly. Smyth did not want to go . Smyth brings the intangibles which are is important to our team , as veteran leadership has dwindled markedly .We need some veteran balance and I believe MacT. feels he still brings that valuable quality . Those sorts of intangibles have value over and above on ice value . That's what he has , and that's the extra he brings . Can we maybe get a better on ice person ? Maybe , but I doubt that person will have the needed intangibles that Smyth can bring , and thus make the entire team better to the extent he can . I just don't see it as being a priority needed change at this stage . I disagree , I feel he is of good value still .

I agree with you, madjam. What you say makes complete sense. Smyth embodies hard work and sacrifice and leaving it all on the ice every shift, and that is great to have on your fourth line. I still think he can contribute when he isn't forced to play centre or made to play twenty minutes a night.

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