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Lowetide
July 14 2013 12:17PM

The Edmonton Oilers aren't done with roster moves, they have a few holes to fill before September 15th when Craig MacTavish hands off to Dallas Eakins for the fall and winter. A summer full off addition and subtraction leaves the roster with 2 goaltenders, 8 defensemen, 12 forwards and an unsigned Gagner. The roster holes are pronounced and significant, and if we're talking playoffs in 2013-14 they must be addressed.

TOP DRAWER

There are elements of this team that are (in my opinion) top drawer and worthy of the second season. They have a dynamite 1line (Nuge-Hall-Eberle) and an emerging 2line unit (Gagner-Perron-Yakupov) if they can get Gagner signed and Perron's possession stats move with him to Alberta's north country.

I'm also convinced the Oilers 3-7 blueline group will be strong and deep enough to weather the storm. If the 3-4 tandem is Andrew Ference-Justin Schultz and the 5-6 is Nick Schultz-Phil Larsen/Anton Belov/Corey Potter then I think that represents major improvement year over year in that area.

Finally, the goaltending. I think the Oilers can expect the tandem of Dubnyk-LaBarbera to be strong enough to get the club into the playoffs for the first time in a generation (or at least it seems that long) and despite Ryan Miller rumors I expect management is convinced the duo offers enough quality to proceed as is when training camp opens.

MUCH IMPORTANT WORK BEING DONE

Despite many transactions, the top pairing--the most important item--and the 3rd and 4th lines remain in an uncertain state.

The Smid-Petry duo did not have a strong 2012-13 season, much chaos happened on their watch. I think a case can be made that the shortened season, the quick coming together of the roster and systems employed by the new coach probably had something to do with it, but it's also true that given a full season this tandem has played the opposition to a tie in a previous season.

VOLLMAN PLAYER USAGE CHART, 2011-12

This is a Vollman Usage Chart, I call it the Vollman Sledgehammer because it takes my bias and wallops it with a big old Sledgehammer (have you ever seen a man use a Sledgehammer? It's pretty frightening), leaving me with a new view on reality. There is no mercy from the Vollman Sledgehammer, but there is truth. Smid-Petry is in the upper left quadrant and in blue and baby that's a good thing. Can they do it again? I don't know, but it's always wise to bet on someone on the way up as opposed to on the way down. Smid and Petry healthy should certainly have their best days ahead of them.

And if you're going to improve the top pairing, make it a veteran player like Braydon Coburn. I think that's what the Oilers management is thinking--improve this graph (the last full season one) or go with Smid-Petry. Seems wise to me.

THE 3 AND 4 LINES VIA VOLLMAN

This is a graph using last year's numbers applied to this year's 3 and 4 line candidates. Boyd Gordon looks like he's going to earn his money and it is very lonely at the top of this graph. The club also signed Jesse Joensu but his portion of this graph is a mere 7 games and is highly unreliable (I included it as a curio).

What to do with the bottom 6? Improve it.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

Craig MacTavish hasn't worked this hard only to lay a Thanksgiving turkey for the fanbase. I think the Oilers can probably get by with the current blue depth chart (doesn't mean they won't improve it, just means if there's nothing out there they can proceed as is) but the bottom 6F needs some help toot sweet. My guess is that Gordon, Smyth, Jones and Brown will be part of the forward group on opening night, with Lander, Joensuu and Eager as possibles for NHL employment.

From here, it looks like the return for Ales Hemsky is extremely likely to be a two-way forward who can join Gordon at the tough end of the Vollman Sledgehammer.

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#2 OilersBrass
July 14 2013, 01:30PM
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Jerry wrote:

Oilers are missing a two way center on their top 2 lines.

They are missing 1st pairing D-men

They don't have a good 4th line.

Lack depth in all positions

Non playoff team

Nuge is a 2 way centre.

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#3 Jprime
July 14 2013, 12:53PM
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Perhaps you should have not have used "us fans" before asking for other fans perspectives.

I have no problems with Kevin Quinn and Gene Principe. Gene does a bang up job interviewing the players; nothing wrong or upsetting about his puns at the introduction of the game. Quinn's overtime calls on Cogliano's consecutive goals were legendary.

That being said, he is no Bob Cole, but then again, there will never be another Bon Cole. I'd rather listen to Kevin Quinn than to the other completely biased CBC play by play.

You want to kick dirt? The embarassing CBC panel thats consists of: Healey, Weekes and PJ Stock is the worst hockey related panel in the industry. Hell, they make Pierre tolerable.

So, no - I don't have a problem with what SportsNet has to offer considering the options on other competeing networks.

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#4 lucky
July 14 2013, 12:22PM
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LT? Where's the WDIAMG?

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#5 OILERSORDREATH
July 14 2013, 06:20PM
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TeddyTurnbuckle wrote:

LT would you trade Ganger for the Canuck Zack Kassian?

Hell Goddamn no!

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#6 TayLordBalls
July 14 2013, 12:27PM
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Sorry to hijack the thread but we fans have concerns.

The local radio, print and blog media coverage of the Oilers cannot report on a major fan problem, as they risk the wrath of their peers.

The Edmonton Oilers are important to us. It’s a serious pastime and does matter. To the point, while the team has rebuilt, the media’s presentation of the team also needs rebuilding.

Oilers Nation blog contributors are excellent and second to none. Newspaper and Cult of Hockey articles are fantastic. Jason Gregor, Lowetide, Jonathan Willis and Robin Brownlee are the best – thank you.

Radio broadcasters Jack Michaels and Bob Stauffer are excellent with Jack possibly being only second to the great Rod Phillips in enthusiasm.

CBC broadcasts are excellent no complaints at all.

Sadly though, Sportsnet coverage is a huge fail. Kevin Quinn and Louie DeBrusk suck as hockey broadcasters. They come across as casual in the least and dopy in most cases. This can’t be the best that Sportsnet has, in fact, I think it’s a deliberate insult to Edmonton fans.

I would turn the sound on from CHED and watch the broadcasts if they were synchronized, however they’re not.

Gene Principe is intelligent and presents himself well but presents the Oilers as a joke. It’s not a joke Gene, it’s serious and time for you to show your professional side.

In summary, Gene hit the nail on the head being the company clown, reflecting how far this team drifted down in the last few years, Yes – our team was a joke, however that time is now changed and it’s past time for Gene and Sportsnet to rebuild their presentation also.

What do other fans think of the Oilers media coverage?

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#7 Rod from Viking
July 14 2013, 01:15PM
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@TayLordBalls

I would rather have Quinn and Debrusk than the pathetic Mark Lee and Kevin Weeks duo, Lee is very anti-Oiler and pro Flames, he does however do a good job on the Calgary Stampede broadcasts.

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#8 Naky
July 14 2013, 03:13PM
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Dubnyk played average the last couple years? His numbers are phenomenal for a team that's bottomed out using defensively irresponsible young forwards along with the consensus worst NHL-ready defensive corps in the entire NHL. Good god, I hate people who say this garbage without thinking. All you see is the one bad goal he lets in every once in a while and the sky is freakin' falling. Know who else lets in bad goals? Every goaltender. Price does it with great regularity and I bet you every single one of you jackrabbits running off at the mouth about Dubnyk would take him in a heartbeat.

But hey, I'm just shouting into the wind here. The grass is always greener on the other side for these kinds of fans.

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#9 DN
July 14 2013, 05:47PM
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

We have 7.7 in cap space now. 10.5 when brown, lander and jj are sent to the minors.

Gagner takes up 5. Grabovski takes up 4, Morrow takes 2.

Hemsky for Umberger we save .5 million in cap space.

We are not over the cap.

To make it less confusing we can trade Hemsky for a cheaper 3rd line checking rw but the lineup is still valid.

Your math is off: FORWARDS Taylor Hall ($6.000m) / Ryan N.-Hopkins ($3.775m) / Jordan Eberle ($6.000m) David Perron ($3.813m) / Sam Gagner ($5.000m) / Nail Yakupov ($3.775m) Brenden Morrow ($2.000m) / Mikhail Grabovski ($4.000m) / R.J. Umberger ($4.600m) Ryan Smyth ($2.250m) / Boyd Gordon ($3.000m) / Ryan Jones ($1.500m) DEFENSEMEN Andrew Ference ($3.250m) / Justin Schultz ($3.775m) Ladislav Smid ($3.500m) / Jeff Petry ($1.750m) Nick Schultz ($3.500m) / Anton Belov ($1.525m) Oscar Klefbom ($1.244m) / Corey Potter ($0.775m) GOALTENDERS Devan Dubnyk ($3.500m) Jason Labarbera ($1.000m) OTHER Buried: Ben Eager ($0.175m) Buried: Jesse Joensuu ($0.025m) Buried: Philip Larsen ($0.100m) ------ SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,831,667; BONUSES: $9,500,000 CAP SPACE (22-man roster):- $709,167

Your reasoning is also off too. First, why would the Oilers go with only 12 forwards? Second, Grabovski probably wouldn't come here is he was only going to play third line minutes. Third, new GMs tend to have more loyalty to the guys that they bring in as opposed to the aging, fringe vetrans already on the team. Thus, despite the salary differences, Larsen and Joensuu are more likely to stay than say Potter and Brown. Fourth, Edmonton is not a choice destination for most players and to get Morrow it would likely require an overpay and more than $2m. Finally, trading Hemsky, who has an expiring contract, straight across for an effective forward such as Umberger, who is signed until 2016 with a lower cap hit, is pure fantasy.

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#10 Pouzar99
July 14 2013, 08:21PM
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The Sportsnet crew are like my wacky cousins from Buttkisser Bluff. Lame, but hey, you can choose your friends but never your relatives or local team broadcast team. My pet peeve is Glenn Healy. What a mouthy, Edmonton -hating turd.

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#11 Mark Kassian
July 15 2013, 10:59AM
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

Saying Dubnyk would be elite if he had a true #1 dman, is like sayin Hemsky would be an 80 point player with a true #1 sniper.

Not sure it's true.

Elite goaltenders don't need elite Defenceman to be elite, they just are.

The teams with elite goalies don't have elite Defenceman, except for Nashville.

Luongo, Lundqvist, Kippersoff, Miller, Brodeur, etc over the years have had solid defences with a group of Six 3/4 guys.

I'm not sayin Dubnyk won't take the next step, become an elite goalie for this franchise, I just haven't seen it yet.

It's not really about elite anything......it's a team game.....notice how most, if not all of your "elite" goalies play for teams that either play a pure defence first style...or at the very least have very balanced defensively sound teams....Dmen and forwards...and coaches........the Oilers have had NONE of the above.....

Brodure played his entire career for the most defensive team in the league, notice how any goalie who plays for Pheonix or Nashville looks damn good if not Elite....Mike Smith plays two years in TB and looks like crap...moves to Pheonix and looks like an all star. Bryzgalov looks like an all star in Pheonix can't stop a beach ball in Philly. Billy Elliot in St Louis. Boborovski in Columbus, Anderson in Ottawa...Etc.....

Sutter moves to LA as coach...plays a pure defensive style system...Quick becomes an ELITE goalie.....

Lemaire coaches Minnesota...they have stellar goaltending....now...not so much

The examples are endless.....think about it for a minute or two....why can teams like Detroit and Chicago excel with below average goaltending....it's because they play sound defensive hockey as a team.....

The quality of a goaltender's stats is a function of the team in front of him.

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#12 Yakyty YAK!
July 14 2013, 12:59PM
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Gene Principe is off but has his moments, embarrassing at most times but the odd time gets it right IMO.

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#13 The Beaker
July 14 2013, 01:02PM
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@TayLordBalls

yeah.... no.

If we're making complaints (which wasnt what this thread was about) then Jack Michaels is a boob. The dude spends half the game not actually calling the play. He will talk about some guy who graduated some obscuring high school hockey team whos name rhymes with Taylor hall for half the play. It's annoying as heck.

Also, yep LT, clear and pronounced holes in this lineup. To us at least, lets hope MacT is as good as we think he can be.

P.S. If you dont like Gene then you obviously dont get it. Some people just dont have a knack for those things.

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#14 OilClog
July 14 2013, 01:04PM
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Jprime wrote:

Perhaps you should have not have used "us fans" before asking for other fans perspectives.

I have no problems with Kevin Quinn and Gene Principe. Gene does a bang up job interviewing the players; nothing wrong or upsetting about his puns at the introduction of the game. Quinn's overtime calls on Cogliano's consecutive goals were legendary.

That being said, he is no Bob Cole, but then again, there will never be another Bon Cole. I'd rather listen to Kevin Quinn than to the other completely biased CBC play by play.

You want to kick dirt? The embarassing CBC panel thats consists of: Healey, Weekes and PJ Stock is the worst hockey related panel in the industry. Hell, they make Pierre tolerable.

So, no - I don't have a problem with what SportsNet has to offer considering the options on other competeing networks.

Pierre is never tolerable, never.

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#15 RexLibris
July 14 2013, 01:33PM
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This roster isn't picture perfect, by any means. However, it is moving more closely to something near and dear to my heart...

Balance.

The Oilers have some good players developing, like Smid and Petry. However, they are best suited to a 2nd pairing role, and the sooner they can be deployed as such the sooner this team can find success. The top-six forward unit, outside of Gagner's defensive play, appears settled into their respective roles.

The bottom-six is a work in progress, but Gordon is the first piece in that puzzle.

The blueline is another story, as I also feel that a team can work with a defensive corps by committee for a time. Depth can go a long way in today's NHL.

Overall the roster just appears to be constructed in a more sane and responsible fashion than previous incarnations. A ways to go, but moving in the right direction with some momentum.

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#17 Craig1981
July 14 2013, 02:29PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Well, Horcoff would have been good for a 3line with Hemsky on it.

Glad Im not the only person noticing that. Seems weird they would of traded him without a solid replacement.

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#18 MKE
July 14 2013, 04:28PM
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@Taylor Gang

heaven forbid we have anyone trying to strive to be better..

success starts in your mind. no one ever ended up being better then they thought they could be.

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#19 jonny94
July 14 2013, 05:36PM
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jonny94 wrote:

I don't know about you but Andrew Ference can be on my team all day long over Potter. Just sayin'

Edit: nvm he's on the team, misread it. Doh.

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#20 nuge2nail
July 14 2013, 07:06PM
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DN wrote:

That is your playoff Oilers roster.

Oiler Domination To Follow

We have depth on wings, center, a decent defense and goaltending duo.

You got any better ideas?

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#21 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
July 14 2013, 08:04PM
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At least the SN boys dont use the term "bounce pass"(GOD I HATE MARK LEE). When did a Basketball term get involved with our great game? I HATE IT and the next time Lee uses it, he should be FIRED.

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#22 MKE
July 14 2013, 10:49PM
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There is a reason people don't want phaneuf. The guy is a cancer in the room.

He is not the guy you have around if you want a winning culture. Toronto made it to the playoffs one year.

He's been part of a few teams that have had winning seasons. But he's never been part of a winning culture in the NHL

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#23 Horseradish
July 15 2013, 04:56AM
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Something kind of just dawned on me.

Why not have 3 lines that can play tough minutes and produce? Dilute the talent, so to speak?

Hall RNH Yakupov Joensuu Gagner Eberle Perron Gordon Hemsky Smyth Lander Jones

Moreover, it makes a lot more sense this way of 3 two-way lines (or more realistically, Line1 two-way, Line2 offensive, Line3 two-way) in terms of picking up free agent talent than it does with the conventional 2 scoring lines and "checking" line.

With the conventional model, there aren't many options left for checking line forwards on the UFA market. It would necessitate a Hemsky swap for 3rd line help, it seems.

And then they basically spend one of the major bullets they have to help get them top-4 d help, plus they would still be missing a 4th line C.

If they play to their roster strengths and, say, sign Penner or Grabovski for 2nd/3rd line W, they'd still have Hemsky to play a two-way role on the 3rd line, OR use him along with N. Schultz and/or picks to pick up another top-4 d-man. -----

For me though? I'd rather see them try to improve this bunch as much as possible through signings. There is still too much of a talent hole to only improve the team through trades. Trading usually helps solid teams that have a luxury at one position and a hole at another. The Oilers aren't at that place yet.

My choice picks for improving the holes that remain on the team would be thus:

-Top-4 d-man: sign Tom Gilbert. -Top-9 winger: sign Dustin Penner or Mikhail Grabovski. -4 line C: David Steckel. (of course, sign Gagner.)

And then call it a day and see how the Oilers go to start the season.

Hall RNH Eberle Perron Gagner Yakupov Penner Gordon Hemsky Smyth Steckel Jones Limbo: Brown, Joensuu, Eager, Lander, Omark

Smid-Gilbert Ference-J. Schultz N. Schultz-Petry Limbo: Belov, Klefbom, Larsen, Potter

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#24 aeiouY
July 15 2013, 10:18AM
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KYLE BEACH

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#26 Jerry
July 14 2013, 12:41PM
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Oilers are missing a two way center on their top 2 lines.

They are missing 1st pairing D-men

They don't have a good 4th line.

Lack depth in all positions

Non playoff team

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#27 Craig1981
July 14 2013, 01:00PM
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I think they need a 3rd line center and winger. As I said yesterday, they need someone that can center the top 2 lines when RNH or Gagner are hurt as it would be surprising to see both play 82 games. Gorden has very little offence. Plus it would be nice to have a 3 rd line that can put add some offense. At this point I only see Jones being that guy

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#28 3rdlinecentre
July 14 2013, 01:02PM
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I'm a fan of the SportsNet team easily second best and and well clear of CBC (TSN is first by a wide margin).

I'm NOT a fan of our 3rd and 4th lines. I like Boyd Gordon, I'm worried about Lander as a regular, but would like to think that Hemsky is part of the solution.

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#29 Rama Lama
July 14 2013, 01:05PM
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I love Gene Principe too........we need funny to go along with boring, losing hockey.......it helps the cause.

Speaking of cause, I get the feeling that the real big trade has yet to come.......let's hope it's one that gives us a big boost. MacT has already done more in six months than Tamby did in his lifetime.

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#30 Spydyr
July 14 2013, 01:05PM
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Jerry wrote:

Oilers are missing a two way center on their top 2 lines.

They are missing 1st pairing D-men

They don't have a good 4th line.

Lack depth in all positions

Non playoff team

Everything Jerry said plus putting all your eggs into the Dubnyk basket might or might not end in failure. The Gagner-Perron-Yakupov line on paper should bleed chances. Has to be the weakest defensive line in the NHL.

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#31 Racki
July 14 2013, 01:07PM
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Big fan of DeBrusk and Quinn as broadcasters. Had the pleasure of meeting them after someone I knew won a Sportsnet tour. Great couple of guys. DeBrusk is generally pretty homer, but it's a homer broadcast.. I don't mind (others watching that aren't Oilers fans would though).

As far as Gene.. well, his shtick makes me roll my eyes with far more frequency than it makes me laugh now, I guess. But I don't want to be too critical of him. I'm sure there is a crowd for him. I kind of wonder if people have just tired of it though. When he was just starting out, I laughed and found him pretty funny.

Anyways, I'm on board with either a Coburn or Phaneuf here for the d-group.

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#32 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
July 14 2013, 01:08PM
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TayLordBalls wrote:

Sorry to hijack the thread but we fans have concerns.

The local radio, print and blog media coverage of the Oilers cannot report on a major fan problem, as they risk the wrath of their peers.

The Edmonton Oilers are important to us. It’s a serious pastime and does matter. To the point, while the team has rebuilt, the media’s presentation of the team also needs rebuilding.

Oilers Nation blog contributors are excellent and second to none. Newspaper and Cult of Hockey articles are fantastic. Jason Gregor, Lowetide, Jonathan Willis and Robin Brownlee are the best – thank you.

Radio broadcasters Jack Michaels and Bob Stauffer are excellent with Jack possibly being only second to the great Rod Phillips in enthusiasm.

CBC broadcasts are excellent no complaints at all.

Sadly though, Sportsnet coverage is a huge fail. Kevin Quinn and Louie DeBrusk suck as hockey broadcasters. They come across as casual in the least and dopy in most cases. This can’t be the best that Sportsnet has, in fact, I think it’s a deliberate insult to Edmonton fans.

I would turn the sound on from CHED and watch the broadcasts if they were synchronized, however they’re not.

Gene Principe is intelligent and presents himself well but presents the Oilers as a joke. It’s not a joke Gene, it’s serious and time for you to show your professional side.

In summary, Gene hit the nail on the head being the company clown, reflecting how far this team drifted down in the last few years, Yes – our team was a joke, however that time is now changed and it’s past time for Gene and Sportsnet to rebuild their presentation also.

What do other fans think of the Oilers media coverage?

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get a pvr. you can pause the game to compensate for the radio delay and sync it up yourself.

problem solved

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#33 nunyour
July 14 2013, 01:10PM
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I really don't think our scouts are that good,we seem to have to make a trade to fill most of the holes in the line-up.Their success rate after the first pick must be pretty low,and don't forget about all the players brought in that have failed,i am sure they were ask for their oppinions.

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#34 Love_the_beach
July 14 2013, 01:16PM
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MacTavish's acquisitions thus far have upgraded key positions, but he has yet to address the lack of depth in certain areas. For instance, Gordon is nice replacement for Horcoff, yet the Oilers sorely lack depth at center. RNH won't be ready to start the season, Lander is barely NHL ready, and Gagner isn't signed(even when he is signed, I'm not too crazy about him for various reasons). In short, lack of depth down the middle puts the Oilers in a precarious position - especially if (or more accurately, "when") another player falls victim to injury.

Another problematic area is defence. With the additions of Belov and Ference, the Oilers have added depth to the blueline; however, a true first line pairing (note the word "true") still eludes them. Ference in particular was a positive addition, but, contrary to the praise that's been showered upon him by the media and fanbase, he's no messiah, and will only marginally augment the defence. Belov, in spite of his success in the KHL, is an experiment. He may very well be back in Russia this time next year if the season does not go well for him.

I echo the sentiments of others on this board who call for another #1 D-man and another center. Both will likely have to come via trade - and they should, since whatever talent is left on Free Agency is uninspiring at best. If these areas are not addressed, then it will be another playoff-less season.

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#35 Craig1981
July 14 2013, 01:18PM
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@Lowetide

Its funny, looking at the lines I just presume Hemsky is gone. If the 3rd line was Jones-xxxxx-Hemsky is there any centerman you can think of that might complement them that already in the system? Mark Arcobello....

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#36 madjam
July 14 2013, 01:21PM
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Rumour has it Ristolainen does not attend Buffalo camp and refuses to go to Rochester . Instead going back to Finland as he claims is his preferable option. They just signed him the entry league contract and now he might burn first year back in Finland ? Would not have thought much of it , but rumoured refusing camp issue is puzzling . Maybe MacT. can make a trade for him ? Nurse and Ristolainen could make us a future dynamic defence/duo . Window of opportunity possibly ?

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#37 Jimmeh
July 14 2013, 01:24PM
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Lowetide wrote:

DeBrusk was a sought after broadcaster and Quinn does an excellent play by play job to my ear. Gene's awesome, I don't know what I would do without his funny antics at the beginning of games.

I do have one issue with Sportsnet, and that's the fact that they seem incapable of getting back to the broadcast in time for the bloody faceoff.

Beyond that, I have no issue with the coverage.

My biggest peeve with their broadcast is the amount of times they play a 5-15 second commercial instead of talking about the game. Watching TSN or CBC for that reason alone sways my vote.

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#38 alledmonton
July 14 2013, 01:31PM
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@Lowetide

I don't mind the Sportsnet coverage. It's way better than CBC's. What I always hate is the use of the corner camera, when they insist on showing a close-shot shot of a player who has just centered the puck. We always miss the pass and the shot. Do we really care what the guy looks like? Just show the play. You can show close-ups of players during the intermission, if anyone really cares.

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#39 Spydyr
July 14 2013, 01:31PM
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OilersBrass wrote:

Nuge is a 2 way centre.

Gagner is not,Therefore,the "Oilers are missing a two way center on their top 2 lines".

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#40 RexLibris
July 14 2013, 01:34PM
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madjam wrote:

Rumour has it Ristolainen does not attend Buffalo camp and refuses to go to Rochester . Instead going back to Finland as he claims is his preferable option. They just signed him the entry league contract and now he might burn first year back in Finland ? Would not have thought much of it , but rumoured refusing camp issue is puzzling . Maybe MacT. can make a trade for him ? Nurse and Ristolainen could make us a future dynamic defence/duo . Window of opportunity possibly ?

As I understand it, ELCs don't kick in until the player plays professionally in North America.

Klefbom's contract is still in year one of his ELC because he stayed over in Sweden.

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#41 Jimmer
July 14 2013, 01:42PM
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@LT

If we eat 1M of Hemsky's salary would Buffalo trade Drew Stafford straight across. Equal risks on both sides...and is a salary cap neutral deal when we each a bit of salary.

Thoughts?

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#42 Philosiphil
July 14 2013, 01:56PM
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Regarding media coverage - Edmonton is blessed to have some very bright and well informed coverage. I can flip between two radio stations on my lunch hour and satiate my Oil appetite ad naseum (sorry LT - the boss doesn't allow free time from 10-12). The blogs and website are numerous and insightful as well.

Entirely agree with LT's take on Sportsnet - Kevin Quinn is just fine, but he and Louie need to stay focused once the puck drops. The dialogue sometimes degenerates into the same mindless chatter of two guys sitting in the stands after a few wobblies.

On the whole, i will only speak for myself, suffice it to say the Oilers coverage and media in the City of Edmonton is reasonably sophisticated and engaging.

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#43 bumboclate(In MacT we trust!)
July 14 2013, 01:59PM
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i think we should make a move for phaneuf. I listen to oilers now and the toronto media was pretty harsh. could we trade nick shultz straight across? just 1 yr at 6.5mil doesnt seem that bad

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#44 bazmagoo
July 14 2013, 02:05PM
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@RexLibris

"As I understand it, ELCs don't kick in until the player plays professionally in North America.

Klefbom's contract is still in year one of his ELC because he stayed over in Sweden."

You are correct sir.

Personally I'd like to see Lander start in OKC and the Oilers sign David Steckel to a 1 year deal at 1.5 million if he's willing to come here on that basis.

Easy contract to trade if Lander proves he's the guy, and gives us some size, grit and faceoff ability up the middle in that 4th line spot.

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#45 bazmagoo
July 14 2013, 02:09PM
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If Teemu Selanne retires I could also see Hemmer going to the Ducks. If we have to eat some of Hemsky's salary/cap hit I don't think it's going to be for a bad contract in return. Make no mistake about it, Stafford's contract is a bad one.

Hemmer (Oilers retaining $1 million of his cap hit/salary) to the Ducks for Daniel Winnick would be a huge score for the Oilers. Great 3rd line right winger, decent size, grit and ability.

Just my opinion.

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#46 Drummerbaker
July 14 2013, 02:10PM
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I love the sportsnet broadcast in all aspects! I wish they did the Saturday night games instead of CBC! Anyone who has a concern with Kevin and Louie has not listened to hockey broadcasts outside of Edmonton. Louie is a poor mans Craig Simpson and doing one heckuva job! Kevin brings tons of passion to his play by play and gene is money! In Vancouver at The Black Frog where they play Oilers games over Canucks games the fans started chanting Geno. Geno Geno! When they switched over to another game before his post game interviews and comments. Like I say, watch a few out of Oilers market games and let me know how you feel about our sportsnet coverage.

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#47 bazmagoo
July 14 2013, 02:12PM
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The Sportsnet broadcast in Vancouver is particularly brutal. Love the Black Frog, great to have an Oilers bar in the middle of downtown enemy territory.

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#48 nuge2nail
July 14 2013, 02:15PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

Elite goaltenders Make average Defenceman look great.

If Dubnyk does not develop Into an elite goalie, our defence is going to look weak and we will all be saying the oilers need a true #1.

If Dubnyk plays to an elite level our 3/4 guys will look stellar and our team will be competing for the playoffs.

The one true problem is our center depth. Our small centers will get Injured and any momentum will be destroyed.

We need to sign a few more players like Morrow and Grabovski to create the depth we need to succeed, IMO.

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#49 **
July 14 2013, 02:19PM
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DeBrusk and QUinn are my favorite broadcasters. Gene irritates me a little but I can live with that. I don't know why you don't like these guys, they are fun, keep it light and don't throw sour comments or get on a high horse like most other broadcasters do.

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#50 nuge2nail
July 14 2013, 02:25PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

I would like to see phaneuf in an oilers jersey, he would bring some much needed physicality, puck movement, and smooth skating to the back end.

Problem is he will be looking at signing a 5.5-6.5 million long term contract extension and that probably is not a good contract for the oilers moving forward.

Coburn would be a solid addition as well, without the big price tag.

Ideally we sign Grabovski, sign Gagner to an extension, trade Hemsky for a forward like Stafford, Umberger, N Foligno, M Foligno, Malone, etc, and than when Hopkins comes back - we can move Grabovski to the third line and have the depth needed to compete.

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