THE WAY I SEE IT

Robin Brownlee
July 02 2013 04:29PM

Edmonton Oilers GM Craig MacTavish certainly set himself up for criticism by talking the talk before walking the walk prior to the NHL Entry Draft and free agency, but unless my ears have failed me completely, I heard MacT talk about making bold moves, not stupid moves.

So, while, like others, I do have some questions about his overall performance at the draft on the weekend– specifically, I'm wondering about how it came to be, exactly, that the Oilers used the seventh pick on Darnell Nurse rather than Valeri Nichushkin – I'm not unhappy with what I saw.

I've got no beef with picking Nurse as far as how he projects and what he brings to the table. He's tough, is diligent in his physical training and, from all accounts, is a character kid who interviewed very well. Teams can never have too much of that. My issue, I guess, is it's going to take three or even four years before the Oilers know what they have with him.

There's more risk in Nichushkin, a better chance he'll be a swing-and-a-miss rather than a homerun, but drafting that combination of size and skill would provide exactly what MacTavish's forwards lack. He could provide a bigger bang, and sooner, than Nurse. That, framed by the fact the Oilers haven't made the playoffs since 2006, made Nichushkin the more tempting pick for me.

I'm wondering if he was also the more tempting pick for Stu MacGregor and his scouting staff and if MacT, at some point, overruled his birddogs. When I hear Nichushkin was the guy as often as I did from people in the know, not the guessers, and Nurse gets selected, I wonder.

No conspiracy theory here because MacTavish wouldn’t be the first GM to make the call on a pick regardless of the team's scouting list, especially if two kids are rated neck-and-neck, but I'm wondering if MacT went with his gut and took the safer pick over the big swing – that does fly in the face of his talk about being bold.

SUCKER ALERT

What I want from a GM, MacTavish in particular, after he's talked the talked about being bold, is that he puts himself in the middle of the mix on the draft floor instead of waiting around for his phone to ring like a wallflower. That he identifies the players he wants or needs, decides what he's willing to give up to get them and then starts pitching.

MacTavish, it was plain to see to anybody paying attention, certainly did that in his pursuit of Braydon Coburn in multiple conversations with Philadelphia GM Paul Holmgren. Homer, if reports are to be believed, put an unreasonable price tag on Coburn, so MacTavish, wisely, I say, said "no thanks."

Like MacTavish said, no deal is better than a stupid deal. If you've actually got a problem with that line of thinking – "But MacT promised he'd make a big deal at the draft" (no, he didn't) – I suggest you think again.

Trades, at least those that don’t involve one of the parties involved grabbing their ankles, are difficult to make, as MacTavish alluded to on the weekend after failing to make the splash many anticipated. Sucker deals? There's always one on the table and, more often than not, they are offered up to rookie GMs like MacTavish.

As 630 CHED analyst Bob Stauffer has already suggested, don't be a bit surprised if MacTavish and Holmgren continue talking about Coburn. I'd be stunned if they don't.

THIS AND THAT . . .

. . . Funny business, the NHL game. Everybody with a functioning brain stem knows the Oilers need more nastiness and grit on their back end, yet today the Oilers walked away from a bunch of it by not qualifying Colten Teubert, Theo Peckham and Alex Plante (as well as Philip Cornet).

The problem with the three D-men who didn't get QO'd, of course, is that while they bring qualities the Oilers lack, none of them has proven they can play regular minutes at the NHL level and, as always, there are always a raft of younger prospects on the way.

We know what went wrong with Peckham. When his window of opportunity swing open, he showed up fat and couldn’t fit through it. Plante has tons of jam but foot speed and concussions are an issue. Teubert? I'd really like to find out what went wrong there. Seems a bit early to turn the page on him.

. . . People here know I really like pending UFA David Clarkson and think he's be a perfect fit here because he brings leadership, toughness and pretty good skill to the dance, but heaven help the Oilers if they even think of offering the kind of money, more than $6 million a season, we heard about today. Clarkson might get that kind of cake from somebody, but it shouldn’t be the Oilers.

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#101 michael
July 02 2013, 09:00PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

For those who care (and don't), NewAgeSys has left the building and won't be back in the forseeable future.

Disagree with any writer here, including me, if you have a different take on what is written, but argue the points made and leave out personal attacks.

That, no matter what else you have to offer, gets you gone.

"We agree to disagree". Personal attacks are reserved for media types who make comments like Don Blunden. Everything else is schoolyard stuff.

Will Nurse be at the prospects camp this week? Or the 2 Russians Yakomov and Slipsomething. Pick of the draft for me was Chase. There is guy who the Oilers could use in OKC next year. And beyond if he has mind to do the dirty work. Love that pick.Best draft by a team. The Jets.They got some dmen to compliment Trouba going forward. Do you think the Oilers keep all these dmen or do they flip a Marincin to a team like Philly?

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#102 WhattaMike
July 02 2013, 09:00PM
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@Oilabroad

Amen to there always being strong character, determination, dedication, attitude, teamwork, and yes it is not always stats that present the whole case...

Nurse...is a most excellent top prospect who refers to those qualities and work ethic in a correct manner and aptitude..

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#103 Jerod
July 02 2013, 09:04PM
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@Racki

Thanks, I was wondering about that.

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#104 WhattaMike
July 02 2013, 09:04PM
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@michael

It was Blundell bud not Blunden...

Yep Nurse is gonna be there and all the gritty tough and bigger size agitators to fighters too from McCarron, Khaira, Moroz, Kelsy, Muir, to Chase...

Only slepyshev seems to be not howing up

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#105 Bonvie
July 02 2013, 09:08PM
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@Woogie63

He took the Klowe school of general management degree - so far he's passing with flying colours.

Can you remember the last time Ken Holland aired his desires/dirty laundry/negotiated through the media? Me neither.

Even though Tambo's pro scouting free agency moves blew I actually liked the way he conducted himself with the media/public. Just a shame he didn't actually do anything!

NO COMMENT

Tambo was a terrible GM two trade deadlines passed and he didnt pick any prospects up for his depth veterans. Instead he gave up picks to pick up the fringe veteran depth players that teams making a push in the playoffs load up on just in case they have injuries .

Normally a non playoff team should have been loaded up with picks and prospects, but he essentially handcuffed his predecessor and his scouts by giving them so little to work with.

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#106 WhattaMike
July 02 2013, 09:08PM
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@K_Mart

Bud...did ya know for sure that Jones was gonna be picked fourth overall?

It doesn't matter whe the Oilers got the 2nd best closet to Jones defenceaan in Darnel Nurse...of whom...may surpass Jones one day...albeit...maybe by not much...but I for one...aint complaining over this

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#107 Racki
July 02 2013, 09:14PM
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Jerod wrote:

Thanks, I was wondering about that.

NP, I think even several local media were mixed up about that. And I remember now, it was for sure Dreger that cleared that up.

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#108 Bucknuck
July 02 2013, 09:18PM
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I like the Nurse pick. I would have liked the Nichushkin pick. I would have enjoyed a Monahan pick. They're all great players in their leagues and one hopes that Nurse is the best of the bunch, we will see.

As for losing more so the Oil can pick a little higher. Barf. I LOVE seeing the 7-2 Oilers over Canucks all summer long. That makes me HAPPY. I love that they finished ahead of the Flames for once. It's more fun to be a fan this summer as a result. I will NEVER want my team to lose more than they have. The thought makes me sick.

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#109 Racki
July 02 2013, 09:23PM
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In all honesty, I'm more upset that Dale Tallon screwed up the draft and caused the Flames to resort to drafting Monahan since Lindholm was gone before that, because .. well, you get the idea. I blame Tallon! ;)

As far as D, defensemen of Nurse's skill set have always been a heavy preference of mine to guys with Jones' skill set. I'm sure the Preds will be very happy with him though, among the rest of the superb D they've collected there.

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#110 Quicksilver ballet
July 02 2013, 09:24PM
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Wow, look at that, page 3 in less than 5 hours during the summer. There's some passion in dem der posts.

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#111 Bucknuck
July 02 2013, 09:24PM
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Jerod wrote:

Thanks, I was wondering about that.

At this point I am not going to believe a word that comes out of Gillis' head. When he said his plan all along was to trade Cory Schneider I was waiting for him to laugh like it was the punchline of a joke. Does he really think fans are that dumb?

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#112 Bonvie
July 02 2013, 09:26PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Absolutely fair comment.

Nurse is safer and his top-end is hardly modest. Even if Nurse never becomes more than a second-pairing shutdown guy who brings it and is tough to play against, that's a good pick. He could be more than that.

Nichushkin strikes me as all or nothing. Better chance of higher top-end, better chance we won't even remember his name in 10 years.

I think the fact that Nikushkin further slipped a few more spots is a good indication that other scouts and GMs seen the same things, and MacT clearly made the wise choice.

Nurse oozes character and from everything I read projects to be a top pair D man.

I myself would have been livid if the Oilers would have taken the Russian and suggested they grab Slepshev in the 2nd if the wanted a big skilled Russian. Turns out they did pretty much that but waited till the 3rd and ended up taking two I actually like both picks.

The big problem for me is the lack of a big presence on defense for the team in the next few years, basically in the immediate future all of the se holes present for the last three years are all there. No top defensan defiensively, and no size in their top 6.

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#113 GVBlackhawk
July 02 2013, 09:41PM
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@DSF

Dale Hunter has NEVER incorrectly projected a prospect.

Book it.

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#114 DSF
July 02 2013, 09:46PM
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GVBlackhawk wrote:

Dale Hunter has NEVER incorrectly projected a prospect.

Book it.

Dale Hunter knows 1000 times more than you do about hockey players.

Book it.

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#115 RJ
July 02 2013, 09:49PM
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I'm sure impressed how everyone KNOWS how good these prospects are going to be. If you went back five years and read the scouting report on different players, you'll see that these scouting agencies get it wrong more often than they get it right. Most of these players we watched on Sunday won't play 160 games as pros. It's just the nature of the draft.

So Nurse vs. Nichushkin....who cares? We're not going to know for a few years, and there may be factors outside the control of the Oilers that come into play such as injuries, etc. that can play a very significant factor. So let's just wait and see before we rip MacT for his drafting. But let's rip him for not having the good sense to realize you don't talk a good game, you play one. I never see Holland having the need to over-sell what he can do.

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#116 GVBlackhawk
July 02 2013, 09:54PM
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DSF wrote:

Dale Hunter knows 1000 times more than you do about hockey players.

Book it.

He knows 1000 times more than me about coaching hockey and playing hockey.

Nobody, including Dale Hunter or DSF, can correctly predict how a junior aged player will transition into the NHL. It's just guess work and luck.

Book that.

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#117 TDSM31
July 02 2013, 10:04PM
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DSF wrote:

Nonsense.

Listened to an interview with Dale Hunter, Horvat's coach in London today.

He's convinced Horvat will be the next Patrice Bergeron.

Hunter knows WAY MORE about hockey than you do.

Really?? Every coach of every player that went in the first round will tell you they're the next coming of some top end NHLer. Jezuz.

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#118 Dale Hunter
July 02 2013, 10:09PM
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DSF wrote:

Dale Hunter knows 1000 times more than you do about hockey players.

Book it.

I know more than you too.

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#119 nuge2nail
July 02 2013, 10:11PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

Another day passes and nothing happens for the Oilers.

I wonder what plan B is going to be when Horton and Clarkson pass on the oilers offers.

Oilers will offer the most money, only to be turned down because both players will want to remain in the east.

I hope I'm wrong. I also hope MacTavish has a backup plan.

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#120 nuge2nail
July 02 2013, 10:16PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

For those of you who think we shouldn't overpay for these guys, just shut up.

We have to spend the Whitney, Horoff, Hemsky, Sutton, Souray, Khabibulan and ELC cap relief money on something.

That's 20+ million, spend it on power forwards who can contribute with goals, hits and fights.

Sign Horton 6 Years - 36 Million.

Sign Clarkson 5 Years- 25 Million.

Sign Ference 3 Years - 12 Million.

Sign Brygalov 2 Years - 7 Million.

Thanks MacT.

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#121 DSF
July 02 2013, 10:19PM
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Dale Hunter wrote:

I know more than you too.

Likely.

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#122 Mean machine
July 02 2013, 10:41PM
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Apparently mueller and pouliot weren't qualified. Both bring size and secondary scoring. I'd look at them. Mueller would help in the shoot out.

Mueller does make hemsky look indestructible. Pouliot teases you with skill and pisses you off with effort.

Something to consider.

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#123 petrklimashelmet
July 02 2013, 11:13PM
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@nuge2nail

There is a lot of potential is signings, and more people are jumping on board with the Oilers with excitement every year.

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#124 peppran
July 02 2013, 11:22PM
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Nice article! Nurse is Peckham v2.0 ( hope i´m wrong).

Feaster sucks, but at least he is trying...I bet Calgary will make the playoffs before the oilers does again.

This team maybe needs to do "bad-deals", because nothing ever changes anyway. Tambo at least tried with Fistric etc...

We can forget the free-agents, maybe some "Belanger" type players will consider signing with oilers (overpay...)

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#125 petrklimashelmet
July 02 2013, 11:28PM
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We will look well at this draft depending on what MacT can accomplish outside of the draft this year. Plus, if even one of the late draft picks turns out as a solid 3rd liner, the media will certainly look back in approval. Call me crazy, but there is tons of potential for the Oilers to make some deals, and also in signings.

Just consider Boston alone. Just throwing this out there: Sam Gagner and Ales Hemsky for Tyler Seguin and Chris Kelly? In some ways, Seguin's game may be slightly behind Gagner's in development. Boston gets more maturity and a well-rounded 3rd-2nd liner who can score here. Hemsky could spark from a new environment and can help fill the void left by Jagr.

Oilers get better potential, size and better faceoff man in Seguin. Plus Chris Kelly is great at face-offs, 4th-3rd line centre that is more than a good replacement for Belanger. Plus, another centre would help take off pressure when trying to move Horcoff.

Oilers might have to throw something else in like a 3rd-4th round draft pick and/or eat some of Hemsky's salary to sweeten the deal.

Oddly enough, the Oilers could benefit by signing Horton and/or Jagr as well this off-season. Jagr would be a great 3rd-2nd line veteran presence.

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#126 GVBlackhawk
July 02 2013, 11:31PM
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Mean machine wrote:

Apparently mueller and pouliot weren't qualified. Both bring size and secondary scoring. I'd look at them. Mueller would help in the shoot out.

Mueller does make hemsky look indestructible. Pouliot teases you with skill and pisses you off with effort.

Something to consider.

Mueller is better than Yakupov according to a notorious troll on this website.

This season when the Oiler centers were injured and the fans were discussing solutions, Mueller's name was brought up. DSF vehemently argued that Dale Tallon would never get rid of Mueller because he was so amazing. I believe his exact quote was "You don't giveaway 6'2", 205 lb 24 year old centers for Oiler spare parts".

Another classic moment. Thanks for the memories DSF.

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#127 madjam
July 02 2013, 11:36PM
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Sorry to read a long time staple and Oiler icon passed away today . Rest in peace Paul Lorieau . Sad day for fans and organization .

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#128 DSF
July 02 2013, 11:39PM
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GVBlackhawk wrote:

Mueller is better than Yakupov according to a notorious troll on this website.

This season when the Oiler centers were injured and the fans were discussing solutions, Mueller's name was brought up. DSF vehemently argued that Dale Tallon would never get rid of Mueller because he was so amazing. I believe his exact quote was "You don't giveaway 6'2", 205 lb 24 year old centers for Oiler spare parts".

Another classic moment. Thanks for the memories DSF.

You know that Tallon drafted Barkov, right?

If you want his sloppy seconds, fill yer boots.

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#129 Quicksilver ballet
July 02 2013, 11:43PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

For those who care (and don't), NewAgeSys has left the building and won't be back in the forseeable future.

Disagree with any writer here, including me, if you have a different take on what is written, but argue the points made and leave out personal attacks.

That, no matter what else you have to offer, gets you gone.

C'mon Robin, he's just a hockey fan like the rest of us here. Like most, to be taken with a grain of salt, or perhaps even an acquired taste. Can we be sure it wasn't just some subtle pseudo trash talking happening?

If he appeals, anyway he could have it reduced to a week? He's been making amazing progress in regards to his post length (post #26 as an example)

You do have an appeals process, correct, if he gets a new windshield installed?

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#130 nuge2nail
July 02 2013, 11:54PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

C'mon Robin, he's just a hockey fan like the rest of us here. Like most, to be taken with a grain of salt, or perhaps even an acquired taste. Can we be sure it wasn't just some subtle pseudo trash talking happening?

If he appeals, anyway he could have it reduced to a week? He's been making amazing progress in regards to his post length (post #26 as an example)

You do have an appeals process, correct, if he gets a new windshield installed?

Oiler Domination To Follow

I agree.

I was almost banned by Robin a couple years ago for starting all my posts with Oiler Domination To Follow.

I'd say how I felt about that, but why open myself up for a lifetime "ban" from RB.

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#131 Quicksilver ballet
July 02 2013, 11:57PM
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@petrklimashelmet

It would've taken a Kings ransom to move Seguin last weekend, a redonkulous over payment by an interested team. Don't think he was really even on the market as it was just an attention getter for Tyler himself. Chiarellis comment about him needing to become a better pro was really all that he had to say. He just used the media to get that message across to him. Peter never had any thoughts of really moving Seguin i'm sure.

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#132 madjam
July 02 2013, 11:59PM
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Any reason A.Slepychev 's name was not included in the Developmental Camp in July , as per Oiler site ?

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#133 madjam
July 03 2013, 12:06AM
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I guess MacT. has no trades in his pockets by the sounds of it . His first attempts at what he hoped to acquire went off the rails . Getting a little antsy wondering if he will now go after lesser talents than he had intended .

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#134 GVBlackhawk
July 03 2013, 12:07AM
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DSF wrote:

You know that Tallon drafted Barkov, right?

If you want his sloppy seconds, fill yer boots.

If he is so valuable, why didn't Tallon qualify him then trade the asset?

There are better options than Peter Mueller for a RW. Better off keeping Hemsky for starters.

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#135 TV6
July 03 2013, 12:16AM
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@michael

"Pick of the draft for me was Chase. There is guy who the Oilers could use in OKC next year. And beyond if he has mind to do the dirty work. Love that pick.Best draft by a team"

Chase can't play in OKC next year, but he will get some much required Top 6 TOI for the Hitmen this upcoming season...

He's a project for sure, but a GREAT pick at 188th over-all..! He's nasty, & the Oil need that like DSF needs a new Etch A Sketch...

x6

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#136 TV6
July 03 2013, 12:19AM
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DSF wrote:

Dale Hunter knows 1000 times more than you do about hockey players.

Book it.

And Dale Hunter & his Dog knows 1001x more about YOU than hockey players...

GV Wins...

BTW... My Deck is BIGGER than yours..!

x6

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#137 TV6
July 03 2013, 12:24AM
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DSF wrote:

You know that Tallon drafted Barkov, right?

If you want his sloppy seconds, fill yer boots.

Wait... You mean the Cat's GM Tallon drafted a Center after DSF has been telling everyone here for the past 3 months that they are UBER~DEEP at Center & they won't be drafting 1, or don't need 1 via trade, or even be gifted 1 by Santa on Canada Day as a special favor just to them..?

You mean 'those' stacked at Center Cat's from Sunrise..?

And they drafted Barkov...

Who would have thunk'..?

x6

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#138 Mr common sense
July 03 2013, 12:28AM
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Death Metal Nightmare wrote:

i'm not following why Clarkson and his agent think he deserves 6 million in the least... who is reporting that?

there is nothing in his game worth even close to that... i could see a 3-3.5 kind of deal (which is still high for a single 30 goal season)... he might get 20 goals a year. he has the ability to finish but expecting 30 a season at this point is hilarious.

cheaper option: the Oilers trade for Steve Ott. he'd improve the FO% a ton, throw hits, play hard, be a rat, and still puts up solid points. throws way more hits than Clarkson, and put up the same points last year.

Steve Ott is the man. Exactly what edm needs but Buff will never deal him

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#139 TV6
July 03 2013, 12:36AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Now, you're reaching.

I must have missed it, so please pass along a link or a scouting/media report that projects Nurse as a No. 1 defenseman.

Until a player actually plays in the NHL, the idea that anyone is a lock is a "guess." Many of those guesses are educated. Others, less so.

1st off Robin...I actually agree with you to a point, but Nurse does have some traction when it comes to him becoming a Top pairing D'man.

I guess it ALL comes down to the semantics of how each person defines a True #1 D'man.

Because, I would tend to bend towards yours due to his offense, but the Darth Pronger comparisons & how some young D'man blossom with the disc as they get older does make me 2nd guess myself that Nurse just may have the talent to along with his insane work ethic to actually be a #1 some day in the future.

I'm not a BIG fan of these sites much, but here are a few examples of what you were asking for. (for what they are worth)

As for the pick, I'm thrilled with Nurse, but I wish MacT could have pulled off some kind of swap with the Sabres for that #8 pick as well & taken the Big Red along with Nurse.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/darnell-nurse/

"Darnell Nurse is a big, mobile, gifted blueliner who has a lot of Chris Pronger in his game. He’s an imposing presence on the blueline and has the tools to be successful at both ends.He easily projects as a top-two blueliner, although his offensive game may not be refined enough to be considered a true number-one. He will be an elite shutdown blueliner who will add at least 25 to 30 pounds of muscle to his 6’5, 200-pound frame. Nurse will be well positioned to be used in all segments of the game (PP, PK, even strength), and his development could rival presumptive first-selected blueliner Seth Jones."

http://www.mynhldraft.com/2013/NHL-Draft-Profiles/Darnell-Nurse

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1680988-darnell-nurse-prospect-profile-for-edmonton-oilers-first-round-pick

"Nurse is arguably the second-best defenseman available in the draft, so anything less than a top-pairing job for the tenacious blueliner would be considered a disappointment. It may take him some time to get there, but he's the mean, versatile defender that every team covets."

I apologize in advance & in post haste for the length of this post...

x6

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#140 gcw_rocks
July 03 2013, 06:12AM
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MacT set expectations when he said he was impatient and was going to make bold moves. Should he make bad deals? No.

But there were interesting trades made at the draft. Kennedy and Bolland were traded for peanuts and both are real NHL hockey players, something the Oilers need. Both provide some semblance of secondary scoring MacT claims to crave. Both play positions that are open on the Oilers roster (3rd line centre and 3rd line RW. He walked away with nothing.

Instead, what he has brought the Oilers since his arrival is a potential media controversy with this captain that could dog the team all next season and a potential feud with his only legitimate NHL goalie, both of which were completely unnecessary and counter productive.

Intead of going to the Kevin Lowe school of management, maybe he should try the Ken Holland or Lou Lamoriello school.

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#141 Spydyr
July 03 2013, 06:24AM
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Book him Dano.

For those of us old enough to remember.

Now can we please let up a bit on the book it.

The only thing you can book is death and taxes.

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#142 OutDoorRink
July 03 2013, 06:33AM
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If Nuchishkin was the guy that the Oilers were supposed to take, why didn't Buffalo jump on him with the 8th pick? Why did Vancouver take a pass with the 9th?

The Chelyabinsk Meteor was available for all three teams, but it fell upon Dallas with the 10th before somebody decided to take a chance. Mr. Nill, I salute your gamblers mentality, but the amount of cash being thrown around the K these days makes me nervous about drafting players from the Steppes. Too many options when the negotiating gets tough.

Nurse was a better pick than Nuchishkin, simple as that.

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#143 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
July 03 2013, 07:21AM
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DSF wrote:

You know that Tallon drafted Barkov, right?

If you want his sloppy seconds, fill yer boots.

you know the trail of misses you have left in your wake has left you looking like the Mike Milbury of Oilersnation, right?

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#144 SrCain
July 03 2013, 07:23AM
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I have to admit, when watching the draft and MacT stepped to the podium, I was hoping VN. However as soon as they grabbed nurse I went online to read every report I could on him and I felt better about the oil taking him. However once the oilers grabbed Slepyshev later I was even happier about Nurse. I feel we may have gotten a big and skilled Russian forward after all. I just don't understand why Slepy didn't get taken at all last yr. What are the differences between VN and Slepy?

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#146 Samson Loveblast
July 03 2013, 07:46AM
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Great article, RB.

On Darnell Nurse I'm in the camp of being thrilled with the pick. I'll take his player type and intangibles any day, looks to be an absolutely superb athlete too, off the type of my head, I can't think of another player with his size/frame that skates like he does.

On NewAgeSys, I hope that he's allowed back at some stage, he screwed up sure, I didn't mind his posts at all though (I found them entertaining) and I think it's clear that he's a passionate fan of the Oilers.

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#147 vetinari
July 03 2013, 07:52AM
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madjam wrote:

Sorry to read a long time staple and Oiler icon passed away today . Rest in peace Paul Lorieau . Sad day for fans and organization .

Rest in peace, Paul, and thanks for the memories....

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#148 madjam
July 03 2013, 08:04AM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

For those of you who think we shouldn't overpay for these guys, just shut up.

We have to spend the Whitney, Horoff, Hemsky, Sutton, Souray, Khabibulan and ELC cap relief money on something.

That's 20+ million, spend it on power forwards who can contribute with goals, hits and fights.

Sign Horton 6 Years - 36 Million.

Sign Clarkson 5 Years- 25 Million.

Sign Ference 3 Years - 12 Million.

Sign Brygalov 2 Years - 7 Million.

Thanks MacT.

I agree , if you want/target those talents , you have to pay the price like almost every other club is doing . If you don't you simply lose out to those that do . Means you better be accurate in your assessment before obtaining them . Our biggest contracts now are Hall and Eberle by the sounds of it ,well below the norm for top personnel of major competitors . We could even take on a couple of 7-8 M contracts to be honest , or wait to sign our youth to that type of Hall, Eberle extentions if we are lucky . .

Case scenario , example only : Would it be worth obtaining Ovechkin or Weber , or both if the cost was 1-3 of our youth come their contract time ? I believe it would ,and trading them at that time would have a host of interested overpaying GM's vying for those talents .Time to get in the game as salaries are rising like it or not .

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#149 Rick
July 03 2013, 08:28AM
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I'm late to the commentary but Nurse was my preference heading in.

I understood the Monahan prediction but they have been missing a multi tool defenceman as badly as they have a big center.

I don't actually understand why Nurse is so quickly dismissed as just muscle.

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