Darnell Nurse signs with Edmonton

Jonathan Willis
July 25 2013 03:45PM

The Edmonton Oilers announced today that they had signed Darnell Nurse to an entry-level contract.

This isn’t especially big news, but it’s welcome. With most drafted prospects, a team wants to take their time and see how the development goes before getting them inked to a deal, but given Nurse’s draft position and what he’s already proven at the junior level there was never any real doubt that they’d sign him immediately.

This doesn’t change his NHL timeline. Of the first 10 players selected in the 2012 draft, two were forwards and eight were defencemen; both forwards made the jump immediately and all eight defenders are still waiting for their first NHL game. A slightly longer development curve is just the reality of the position. Interestingly, the two defencemen drafted in similar positions in 2011 – ninth overall pick Dougie Hamilton and 10th overall selection Jonas Brodin – both had their debut NHL campaign, which would suggest that Nurse will be ready to at least challenge for an NHL job in 2014-15.

Still, Nurse is going to be a player worth keeping an eye on in 2013-14. As it stands, he projects as a two-way defenceman, but he spent last season on the same team with two of the best offensive defenders in major junior – Ryan Sproul and Colin Miller. As a result, his offensive ability may be underrated; he managed 41 points in 68 games as it was but a big step this season is certainly not out of the question.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 Young Oil
July 25 2013, 04:13PM
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Any word yet of the cap hit after bonuses?

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#2 toprightcorner
July 25 2013, 04:39PM
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JW, I would kindly ask that you remove the #1 comment as well as my comment which is #3 so no attention is given to the idiot who wrote it.

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#3 number99
July 25 2013, 04:42PM
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@toprightcorner

as well as mine

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#4 Lloyd B.
July 25 2013, 05:10PM
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Does the ELC kick when he starts in Edmonton or OKC or does the 3 year clock start ticking right now?

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#5 Young Oil
July 25 2013, 05:14PM
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Lloyd B. wrote:

Does the ELC kick when he starts in Edmonton or OKC or does the 3 year clock start ticking right now?

Doesn't start until he enters the AHL or NHL I believe. But he does have those 9 NHL games he can play at the beginning of the season before his contract starts to run, correct me if I'm wrong.

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#6 toprightcorner
July 25 2013, 05:17PM
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Lloyd B. wrote:

Does the ELC kick when he starts in Edmonton or OKC or does the 3 year clock start ticking right now?

As soon as he plays as a pro so OKC or Edmonton. He can stay in junior as long as he is eligible without the contract starting. If he is not ready to make the Oilers after one more year in junior it would be best spending another year in junior instead of burning a year of his contract in OKC.

It is fairly common for drafted defenceman to spend 2 years in junior as their development is slower than forwards.

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#7 toprightcorner
July 25 2013, 05:19PM
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Young Oil wrote:

Doesn't start until he enters the AHL or NHL I believe. But he does have those 9 NHL games he can play at the beginning of the season before his contract starts to run, correct me if I'm wrong.

you are correct.

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#8 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
July 25 2013, 05:25PM
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Give him 9 games then send him back to junior. Take it slow with this kid.

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#9 Symbology
July 25 2013, 05:41PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Give him 9 games then send him back to junior. Take it slow with this kid.

I wouldn't even do that. Our blue line is crowded enough without complicating things with Nurse. He's going down to Junior anyways, so keep him up in Training Camp until the very end and send him back. Giving him a tryout means exposing one of our other Defensemen to waivers needlessly.

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#10 madjam
July 25 2013, 06:00PM
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If he's an adult this season (18), then if he's a good option put him on team now . Others have done it , and look at our own youth right out of junior . Not like we are blessed with a lot of skill or physicality on the back end to begin with . If he's as good and mature as most of you claim he is then he should be ready and be a difference maker . We don't have the luxury of babying players , our team needs every boost it can get .

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#11 Tom
July 25 2013, 06:10PM
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madjam wrote:

If he's an adult this season (18), then if he's a good option put him on team now . Others have done it , and look at our own youth right out of junior . Not like we are blessed with a lot of skill or physicality on the back end to begin with . If he's as good and mature as most of you claim he is then he should be ready and be a difference maker . We don't have the luxury of babying players , our team needs every boost it can get .

I cannot believe I am taking the bait from you of all people, but here goes. You will most certainly ruin Nurse's huge potential by bringing him to the show this early. Our D is fine and deep. In 3 years Nurse will be miles better then he is today if you let him develop naturally.

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#12 Rocket
July 25 2013, 06:20PM
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@Tom

Agreed. Let the kid develop for a Detroit Red Wings amount of time & then let him loose on the NHL.

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#13 WhattaMike
July 25 2013, 06:47PM
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I for one am very happy to see Nurse sign but I am against him being an Oiler for at least two yrs at the most. He has lots to learn and get confident with... plus he needs to bulk up to over 210/220 lbs at least but keep the quickness/speed.

excellent to have him signed and going...I hope to see a lot of him in Penticton at the YoungStars Tourney.

Klefbom, Fedun and Marancin are clearly the first wave of defence kids to get to the Oilers and thats why I see Ference as the teacher along with Smid then... see those such Potter on his last yr (UFA), Larsen on his final one (RFA), N. Schultz too (UFA), and Belov (ELC-but RFA or UFA???)and then Grebeshkov (UFA)as well.

Wow!!!! once these kids start maikng the team along with Musil and/or Davidson, Simpson, Gernat...and of course Nurse...this new future Oilers' defence will be the best in the league for years to come...IMO.

If this all mashes great with the forward top core...look out in two years I believe....Western Conference Finals/Stanley Cup Finals.

Last.... with Nurse being signed and about all the defencemen kids coming up very soon in the system/future...because of Fucale being taken at #36 by MTL before the Oilers next at #37...I wonder now if MacT and the Oilers specifically look for that best top goalie prospect.... with their first or second given draft picks in 2014...(pending where they pick I would say at least)?????

I've been seeing that one of the top goalie prospects for next draft is Justin Paulic (Moose Jaw - WHL)

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#14 madjam
July 25 2013, 06:47PM
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What are you people so afraid of ? Can you imagine Gretzky , Messier , Hall, Gagner , Hopkins and Yakupov going into junior or semi pro when their talent levels are far above them . We"re not a major contender to begin with . The way you people are talking This would be Halls second year , Gagners 4th year , Hopkins his first and Yakupov would not even start till next year . Defence , any bets Brown starts , probably Ristolainen , Murray was ready last year ,but injury kept him out . Most here claim he's better than Murray . MacKinnon , Droin , etc.. Why insist on coddling them if they are already ready and maybe your best option ? I don't see too many we have had over the years get destroyed ,and all I believe got better and made our team better at the time . Why use subpar players over them ?

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#15 WhattaMike
July 25 2013, 07:03PM
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@madjam

I am not afraid of bringing up Nurse but its time to stop rushing a kid... The #1 reason ya dont bring him up now from junior is those contracts of 9 to 10 ready NHL defencemen ahead of him and because Klefbom, Marancin and Fedun are the most ready from in the prospect system ahead of him.

Dude....why the rush??? He alone wont make the Oilers win the cup this year so why ya seeking this as an issue?

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#16 15w40
July 25 2013, 07:16PM
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In response to the thread - keep Nurse for a couple exhibition games and send him back to the OHL to dominate.

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#17 toprightcorner
July 25 2013, 07:19PM
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madjam wrote:

What are you people so afraid of ? Can you imagine Gretzky , Messier , Hall, Gagner , Hopkins and Yakupov going into junior or semi pro when their talent levels are far above them . We"re not a major contender to begin with . The way you people are talking This would be Halls second year , Gagners 4th year , Hopkins his first and Yakupov would not even start till next year . Defence , any bets Brown starts , probably Ristolainen , Murray was ready last year ,but injury kept him out . Most here claim he's better than Murray . MacKinnon , Droin , etc.. Why insist on coddling them if they are already ready and maybe your best option ? I don't see too many we have had over the years get destroyed ,and all I believe got better and made our team better at the time . Why use subpar players over them ?

Thanx for using only forwards to back up your argument of a defenceman playing in the NHL the year they were drafted.

Not surprised you don't have a good argument though.

Your just looking for attention so stop wasting everyone's time

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#19 Czar
July 25 2013, 07:50PM
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Wicked video of Hall stick handling a golf ball on instagram, available on your sportsnet app. "Watch the blur." The tweets afterward are worth a read as well.

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#20 number99
July 25 2013, 09:12PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Sorry for the delay in getting that comment removed; had a busy day and was out and about.

Thank you sir

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#21 Carlos Danger
July 25 2013, 09:33PM
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Nice

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#22 toprightcorner
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@Jonathan Willis

I am just happy it is finally gone, Thank you.

Out of curiousity,what heppens when you have and issue like this and ban someone from the site? is it simply their email and username that are blocked?

Thanx again for taking out the trash!

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#23 Metal&Oil
July 26 2013, 12:05AM
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Nurse will be a big part of Canada's WJ team next year, has already been named captain of the Greyhounds and will be on their 1st unit powerplay next season. Rushing him to the NHL and depriving him of this experience would be among the stupidest things this organization could possibly do at this time.

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#24 madjam
July 26 2013, 01:53AM
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I fear that Nurse may end up becoming Teubert 2.0... High expectations from draft, but doesn't live up to it.

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#25 The Soup Fascist
July 26 2013, 03:08AM
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Zzzzzzzzz

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#26 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
July 26 2013, 06:40AM
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He says he models his game after Scott Stevens. If he can become even half of what Stevens was, I'll be over the moon.

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#27 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
July 26 2013, 06:40AM
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The post so nice, it appeared twice.

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#28 OilDieHard
July 26 2013, 07:03AM
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madjam wrote:

I fear that Nurse may end up becoming Teubert 2.0... High expectations from draft, but doesn't live up to it.

^based on what exactly?

and i hope the Canucks fall flat on their faces this year! :-)

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#29 The Soup Fascist
July 26 2013, 07:18AM
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The post so nice, it appeared twice.

He will HAVE to be half of what Stevens was in terms of hitting or he will be suspended all the time.

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#30 Lochenzo
July 26 2013, 08:16AM
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It's going to be tough getting used to. Not seeing our 1st round pick for a couple of years. Hopefully he's added a little more muscle over the summer and he go back and dominate all three zones in junior. The Oil have an excellent player here.

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#31 book¡e
July 26 2013, 08:56AM
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And maybe all of those that refer to it so us latecomers don't wonder what is so bad about young oil asking about the cap hit...

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#32 madjam
July 26 2013, 09:02AM
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madjam wrote:

I fear that Nurse may end up becoming Teubert 2.0... High expectations from draft, but doesn't live up to it.

Madjam Wanna Be : You must have a terrible life , when you have reduced yourself to trying to emulate me . Are you afraid to put your own comments under your own name ? Be careful you don't go to far with plaguerism and possible deframation of character .

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#33 LinkfromHyrule
July 26 2013, 09:12AM
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madjam wrote:

Madjam Wanna Be : You must have a terrible life , when you have reduced yourself to trying to emulate me . Are you afraid to put your own comments under your own name ? Be careful you don't go to far with plaguerism and possible deframation of character .

dude do you have multiple personalities or something

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#34 madjam
July 26 2013, 09:28AM
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madjam wrote:

Madjam Wanna Be : You must have a terrible life , when you have reduced yourself to trying to emulate me . Are you afraid to put your own comments under your own name ? Be careful you don't go to far with plaguerism and possible deframation of character .

Pseudo madjam . You must have a terrible life , to try to pretend that YOU'RE the real madjam when you're not . I never refer to fake madjam as wannabe , he's always pseudo-madjam . So it's clear you're the imposter . Nice trick, but oilers nation can see through it .

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#35 Spydyr
July 26 2013, 09:33AM
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I would like to see him finish his junior career and play at least one year in the AHL before moving up to the NHL.

The thing is this is the Oilers.They do not develop players they rush them in and it hurts their development.Maybe things have changed but until I see that change it is status quo.

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#36 Czar
July 26 2013, 09:35AM
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@madjam

Forget your meds this morning?

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#37 match16
July 26 2013, 10:21AM
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madjam wrote:

What are you people so afraid of ? Can you imagine Gretzky , Messier , Hall, Gagner , Hopkins and Yakupov going into junior or semi pro when their talent levels are far above them . We"re not a major contender to begin with . The way you people are talking This would be Halls second year , Gagners 4th year , Hopkins his first and Yakupov would not even start till next year . Defence , any bets Brown starts , probably Ristolainen , Murray was ready last year ,but injury kept him out . Most here claim he's better than Murray . MacKinnon , Droin , etc.. Why insist on coddling them if they are already ready and maybe your best option ? I don't see too many we have had over the years get destroyed ,and all I believe got better and made our team better at the time . Why use subpar players over them ?

Read the article, Willis is saying DEFENSEMEN take longer to develop. Gretzky, Messier, Hall, Gagner, Hopkins, Yakupov are all forwards.

It's unlikely Klefbom will make the team this year, let alone Nurse...

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#38 smiliegirl15
July 26 2013, 11:19AM
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I certainly hope he's underrated and is actually a lot better than people think. Is there a chance he's overrated because he played with two really good defensemen like Jacques what's his name because he played with Sydney Crosby? (my apologies, I've been partially successful in ridding him from my Oilers' memory). I realize it's a different scenario because those two were forwards and Nurse a defensemen but I think stronger players can definitely make weaker players look better than they are regardless of their position.

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#39 Sloppy Joe
July 26 2013, 11:27AM
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My apologies in advance to oilersnation for feeding the troll ...

Madjam, Pseudo-Madjam, and Fake-Madjam. Nobody cares how many of you there are, or if you are a schizophrenic three-in-one - the comments by all three of you are asinine.

You don't rush Nurse into the NHL. Look at Smid as a case-in-point: the guy was a 9th overall pick with tons of promise (and offensive potential). Edmonton rushed him into the NHL, and he was totally out of his depth for the first few years - it stunted his development.

My analysis of Smid is that he was able to find his comfort level by going 100% defensive, and he is great in that role now. However, if he hadn't been thrown to the wolves, I think we would have seen more offensive development and he would have been a more complete player overall.

Apart from the player development angle, there is the basic business angle ... Gagner isn't the best example because he's a forward, but the oilers would have been much better served business-wise to send Gagner back to junior in his draft year instead of burning a year off his ECL during a losing season. We'd have a lot more cap room right now if they'd done so.

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#40 Harry
July 26 2013, 12:06PM
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Nurse, Klef, Shultz. We have some seriously good D prosoects now!! Future looks incredible

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#41 Spydyr
July 26 2013, 12:14PM
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Harry wrote:

Nurse, Klef, Shultz. We have some seriously good D prosoects now!! Future looks incredible

Let's hope we have the same bright future with centres in a few years.

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#42 Oiler Al
July 26 2013, 12:14PM
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I was more than please, that Oilers picked Nurse over Nichuskin . Oilers need is in D and Ctr. positions. Although Nickuskin [ if he sticks to the NHL ], will be a player , LW would be priotiy 3 for the Oilers.

I guess we will never know, but one wonders if Lindholm, or Monhahan were still there at # 7 if the Oilers would have still picked Nurse.[ For what its worth, I would, as I was picking Barkov or Nurse.]

Nurse need no see NHL action for two years. Give the kid a chance to develop!

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