RADIO GA-GA: TWO AT THE TOP

Robin Brownlee
July 29 2013 08:33PM

I usually don't put a lot of stock in the polls that David Staples runs over at the Cult of Hockey at The Edmonton Journal. In fact I sometimes mock them, but the results Staples is getting today for his latest question – Who is Edmonton's top sports radio host? – confirm what I already know.

That is, simply put, when it comes to the gift of gab in this market, Bob Stauffer of 630 CHED and Jason Gregor of TEAM 1260, both of whom I've had the good fortune to share the booth with as a co-host, sit at the top of Edmonton's radio heap. Then, there's everybody else – Allan Mitchell, Jason Strudwick and Mark Spector of 1260 and Dan Tencer of CHED. You can review the latest results of the poll here.

Stauffer, the uber-connected host of Oilers Now on CHED, and Gregor, who somehow fills four hours a day, from 2 p.m. to 6 p.m., with quality yakity-yak despite having a certified windshield technician as one of his co-hosts, will no doubt lead the poll from wire-to-wire. No surprise there, even though Stauffer and Gregor are as different as night and day in terms of style.

Both, however, obviously hit notes that resonate with Edmonton's radio audience. And both, as any good radio host tends to do, have their fair share of critics. Anything in between love and hate, as in the dreaded "like," isn't what drives big numbers in the radio game.

WHAT YOU SAY

Here's a sampling of comments posted along with the poll in The Journal. To see them all, click on the link I provided in the first paragraph.

Randy: Gregor is pretty good too, but for me, he says "you know" every 30 seconds. I've often that would be a fun drinking game. Nah, everyone would be hammered within the hour:)

Todd: Tencer is just ok. Far from good enough to justify the way he treats people. He also lost all favour with the fans when he basically lobbied on air for the downtown arena and anything else on the Katz agenda. Tencer also works for Katz, and this has no credibility as a broadcaster. Tencer also scored his gf, a oilers puck (vicarious much) a high profile gig in radio. The guys too young and too shady.

Peter: Sad that Allen Mitchell had to manipulate poll by begging people to vote for him. On a hockey site Stauffer should win...His show is all hockey. Best host, and most well-rounded is Gregor. He has a sports show that talks every sport, and he can talk them all. I find he is the best interviewer by far. He and Stauffer are the two best, but IMO Gregor is the best sports host. Bob is hockey.

John: I have a real hard time listening to CHED from 6-9 pm. That is a terrible time if you have kids. I wish they would put a show up against 1260 in that 9-12 am evening slot. As far as Jason Strudwick's show, I wish he would spend 90% of his time talking Oiler hockey instead of 90% of his time joking with Majeau. If CHED even aired a repeat of Oiler lunch around that night slot, they would own it. Bob Stauffer is definitely the best in the City. Vancouver does sports talk radio seven days a week, 360 days a year and we have far more interested fans here. I would like to see at least one more nigh time sports show in Edmonton for sure. Staples maybe???

WHAT I SAY

Stauffer, who gave me the chance to co-host his show when he was at TEAM 1260 before he moved over to CHED as the analyst to play-by-play man Rod Phillips on game nights, is easily the most connected media guy in the city – newspapers, radio and TV – and it’s not close.

For those who point out Stauffer should be the most connected, considering he works for the Oilers, that was the case BEFORE he moved from 1260 over to CHED (with a stint on both at the same time when he was doing Oilers Lunch on the TEAM and game nights on CHED).

Stauffer gets the dope because he goes after it by talking to GMs, agents and hockey ops people around the NHL, not because he gets it handed to him by team management, as his critics insist. You don't have to like it or believe it, but that doesn't make it less so.

As for Gregor, I think he's the best interviewer in the city, and by a pretty healthy margin. He's always prepared because he puts the work in, and he's quick on his feet – if an interview takes an unexpected turn, as they often do, he'll shift gears seamlessly.

More times than I can count, often as I'm listening in as I'm driving to the studio or a live location for my 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. segment, Gregor has rattled off an interview that has me locked on the dial. Gregor knows how to tell a story. Just as important, he knows when to let his guests tell their story without feeling the need to jump in and gum it up with what he thinks.

The other thing with Gregor is he's the straight goods. What you hear is what you get. While it’s a rule of thumb that conflict and differing opinions make for good radio, I don't remember Gregor taking a position on an issue he didn't believe in just to generate calls or drive ratings. Integrity, what a concept.

There are plenty of reasons Stauffer and Gregor are top of the heap.

WHILE I'M AT IT . . .

The landscape of Edmonton sports radio has changed a lot over the last decade and more changes are in store.

. . . I fully expect we'll see TEAM 1260 re-branded as TSN 1260 in the not-too-distant future now that Bell Media has bought in.

. . . Don't be surprised if SPORTSNET becomes a player on the local radio airwaves as well. Word is, they're after an AM property (maybe CKUA) to compete with TSN.

. . . 630 CHED is the rights holder for Oiler broadcasts for the upcoming season and then the deal is up for renewal. Both TSN (1260) and SPORTSNET, if they draw in, will contest those rights.

. . . 630 CHED has some work to do to fill the void left by Tencer, who is leaving Inside Sports in the evening for a morning talk/news slot. Say what you want about Tencer – I certainly have from time to time -- he's built an impressive resume in a big hurry.

. . . Strudwick is proof you don’t have to have the slickest delivery or good hair to make waves on the wireless. Like John Short, Strudwick can spin a story, even if he butchers names and the English language. TEAM 1260 got it right giving him the late night slot.

Listen to Robin Brownlee Wednesdays and Thursdays from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. on the Jason Gregor Show on TEAM 1260.

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A sports writer since 1983, including stints at The Edmonton Journal and The Sun 1989-2007, I happily co-host the Jason Gregor Show on TSN 1260 twice a week and write when so inclined. Have the best damn lawn on the internet. Most important, I am Sam's dad. Follow me on Twitter at Robin_Brownlee. Or don't.
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#51 rubbertrout
July 30 2013, 07:50AM
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It is unfortunate that Gregor is on the radio because he would certainly win for style points. LOOK AT THAT LID DAMNIT!

I agree with the "you know" comments.

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#52 Rob...
July 30 2013, 08:13AM
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Butters wrote:

Is it me, or does Gregor look a little like Elvis Costello?

I voted in the poll just for giggles and I picked LoweTide. It was pretty close between him and Jason Gregor. Both are top-shelf in my books. I gave LT the vote because I have yet to hear him talk about MMA.

I always thought a younger Paul Shaffer.

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#53 Gerald R. Ford
July 30 2013, 08:33AM
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@Steve

Except, of course, I did not say that. I stated, "He is nowhere near as connected as the other two." In terms of the Oil management and ownership, he simply isn't. Tencer and Stauffer are always going to have that insider advantage. Conversely, Gregor doesn't have his lips permanently arc-welded to DKatz's ass.

Not a bad thing.

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#55 Gerald R. Ford
July 30 2013, 08:49AM
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@ShanePong

I forgot about Nielson. I cannot listen to that guy. Period. He's like a hyperactive beagle that someone's fed chocolate-frosted sugar bombs to all morning. Well, a beagle with an apparent gambling problem, as betting seems to be the never-ending focus of his show. Listening to him is like being on that giant tea cup ride that spins. You just want to get off and barf.

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#56 Fox
July 30 2013, 08:53AM
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Interesting results.... For my money it's Mark Spector all the way. Talks and interviews on everything we want to hear about in an intelligent non condescending manner. Bob S wastes too much interview time of his guests trying to tell the world how much he knows. Gregor is improving every week, but looses it with most audience on his love affair of guys trying to kill each other known as MMA.

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#57 Abootzky
July 30 2013, 09:13AM
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Bob Stauffer has been the best thing about Edmonton sports radio since John Short's heyday in the 80's. I even liked listening to him scream out Golden Bears hockey & football games on CJSR before the TEAM existed. Bob peaked with 'Total Sports' when Mark Spector was his co-host and kept it gong after Spec left. I'm very happy for Stauffer because he worked so hard to get the prime gig he has with the Oilers. The one thing I rarely do now is listen to him which is why I voted for Gregor. It's not perfect but his show is still must-listen for me. I also recommend that people really listen to Spector. He has improved a lot- to the point that I no longer feel like I'm missing anything by not tuning into CHED during his timeslot.

The rest of the TEAM's local programming has never been as solid as it is right now and I should know. I've been tuned in since Day 1 in 2002. I'm very interested to see what the next year brings.

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#58 borisnikov
July 30 2013, 09:14AM
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Brownlee,

Where did you gather the CKUA tidbit from? Just a thought or have you actually heard something? I'm for sure in the minority here but if SN tries to gobble up CKUA it would be an absolute crime. There are a million other numbers on the AM dial SN could get a license for, no?

It's obviously not everyone's cup of tea but eclectic radio is rare and refreshing. I hope they leave it alone.

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#59 Matt Henderson
July 30 2013, 09:20AM
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I dont listen to Stauffer anymore but mainly because he's on CHED. I would simply rather stay on 1260.

I listen to Nielson and Fraser in the morning and Gregor on the drive home, but I rarely get to listen to much else just because of when I work. Gregor is without a doubt the best interviewer in the Edmonton market.

I would happily listen to Lowetide's show more often if I could but it conflicts with work. Great radio voice, awesome blog, great variety of guests and perspectives.

Strudwick is a great co-host and seems to be getting better as a soloist all the time. Funny guy.

Mark Spector makes me crazy some days because I often disagree with him, but I'm not supposed to agree with him all the time.

I think Gregor is probably the best right now. Paid his dues on the night show and nailed it when he got the big gig. I'm glad there's so much talent in Edmonton that we have legitimate choices here.

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#60 K-UGER Industrial Smoothing
July 30 2013, 09:21AM
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I think we'll all agree that Kyle Chase is the best broadcaster in the city.

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#61 K-UGER Industrial Smoothing
July 30 2013, 09:21AM
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Strudwick sounds like hes got peanut butter in his mouth all the time

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#62 Woogie
July 30 2013, 09:21AM
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1) Stauf - > Best in the business by a mile!

2) Gregor is good. I love it when he gets fired up. Gregor and Struds are pure comedy!

3) Tencer. He can get carried away but I agree with most of his points.

Spector drives me CRAZY!!!! I have to listen to him on the way home everyday on the Gregor show. Half the time he isn't even paying attention and just sounds like an idiot. Gregor must bang his head on his desk when they talk.

Struds is ok... as mentioned earlier with gregor he is gold.

Neilsen and Fraser are brutal. it doesn't seem like they really know much about the oilers.

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#63 Jesse
July 30 2013, 09:34AM
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So, basically you wrote a post about why you like your friends? I don't disagree that both Gregor and Stauffer have merit, but it reeks of inauthenticity and partiality to so unabashedly support your known friends and then post caustic quotes from other people about your friends' competitors without addressing them. Looks kind of like you're hiding behind "what other people say" because, "Hey, I'm just giving a balanced account of what other people think!" Well, you give a "balanced account" of what people think of your best buds' competition, but then delve headlong into a generous explanation of why your friends are great.

Gag.

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#64 Rama Lama
July 30 2013, 09:37AM
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Stauffer may be the best based on delivery and the quality of guests he has on the show, but everyone knows that he is not critical of anything Oilers, especially management.

When we had bumbling, stumbling, Mr. Dithers running the show, he did nothing to even mildly criticize this fool of a GM. He lost a lot of credibility with his listeners during this time. Cue Gregor, he was at least not afraid to call out Mr. Dithers.

As far as Strudwick goes, he is void of anything cerebral or interesting.

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#65 TigerUnderGlass
July 30 2013, 09:51AM
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Steve wrote:

What is your issue?

Lowetide was the only host who asked people to vote for him. It was classless, and showed insecurity in my books.

Stauffer had Staples on his show, and never once said vote for him. Gregor didn't even mention it on his show.

Those two let people decide, rather than try to influence them and get a few extra votes. It was bushleague for Lowetide to ask people to help him win. You complaining about Brownlee is pointing the finger at the wrong person.

Are people really crying about someone asking for votes in a joke poll that nobody takes seriously anyways?

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#66 Scott in Grande Prairie
July 30 2013, 09:55AM
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I think Edmonton’s pretty lucky. It’s hard to find too much fault with any of the radio personalities mentioned in this article.

Whenever I’m in Edmonton – actually, I was down there a week ago for meetings – I always find myself cycling between CHED and Team-1260 during its sports talk shows. We don’t have anything like that up here, locally, and both of those Edmonton stations are just out of range, reception-wise (except on cold winter days, for some reason). You are so lucky – Oiler fans in way-northern-Alberta are starving for the kind of sports-talk-radio you have.

That said, in my opinion Tencer has perhaps the “weakest” on-air presence. I’m a former print reporter (who did a few years of sports) and I find that Tencer sometimes falls into the classic trap of answering-his-question-while-asking-it.

Here’s an example of what I mean:

“Craig, what was your motivation for announcing your desire to trade Ales Hemsky earlier this summer...because, as we know, Hemsky had an up-and-down year but still has a contract that, if he bounces back may be considered a ‘value contract’ for the right team that’s looking for offence from a guy with big-time skill who, historically, has put together some decent seasons, or strings of decent seasons during his time with the Edmonton Oilers.”

And, on Tencer’s show a week ago Monday, I actually laughed out loud as I was driving home to GP. During one segment of his show, Tencer went into a minute-long mini-rant on how he couldn’t believe there was so hoopla over the royal baby ... but then quickly segued into a speech about how much of a “big deal” it was that a sign had been posted on the new arena site downtown. A friggin’ sign.

But I don’t doubt that Tencer’s connected ... and in the broadcasting business, that takes you far.

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#67 mayorblaine
July 30 2013, 09:59AM
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the only show i don't turn from is Lowetide's. i feel he listens more and talks less.

if i could isten to a national broadcast all day i would as well. i like McGowan, aside from the Leafs talk, the variation of sports and guests is great.

anything with more Elliote Friedman is a good thing. how long till he no longer works for CBC, not long i predict.

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#68 Czar
July 30 2013, 10:05AM
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Rob... wrote:

I always thought a younger Paul Shaffer.

I'm with Butters on this one, more Costello than Shaffer. Especially when he's not wearing those Paris Hilton shades he has on in his avatar.

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#70 LinkfromHyrule
July 30 2013, 10:16AM
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Steve wrote:

What is your issue?

Lowetide was the only host who asked people to vote for him. It was classless, and showed insecurity in my books.

Stauffer had Staples on his show, and never once said vote for him. Gregor didn't even mention it on his show.

Those two let people decide, rather than try to influence them and get a few extra votes. It was bushleague for Lowetide to ask people to help him win. You complaining about Brownlee is pointing the finger at the wrong person.

When did Lowetide ask for people to vote for him? I know other people on his blog mentioned it, but I never saw him say anything about it.

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#71 Jesse
July 30 2013, 10:28AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

You seem to be looking for issues or motives where they don't exist. I didn't decide to run the poll, The Journal did. I'm simply commenting on the findings, some of which I find curious, others that I agree with. Fans have their say. I have mine.

Don't like it? As always, feel free to move on to something that interests you or that you find more agreeable.

Silly me to hope for some balance or fair representation when reading your work. Won't be making that mistake again.

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#73 oilers2k10
July 30 2013, 10:35AM
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I agree Gregor does the best interviews.

I actually really like Dan Tencer, not sure why all the hate.

Allan Mitchell is awesome.

Nelson and Fraser are cool.

Strudwick laughs annoyingly funny..but he's ok, tries to be to much like Gregor it seems.

Stauffer is the best.

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#74 oilers2k10
July 30 2013, 10:38AM
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Oh yeah and my favorite Edmonton Radio Show is Lowetide followed by the Pipeline show.

However, nothing comes close to Hustler and Lawless and Rona Roundtable on Winnipegs TSN 1290.

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#75 mayorblaine
July 30 2013, 10:41AM
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i don't get the Nielson hate.

he has his moments but for the most part i think he is comical and informed. a certain amount of levity is nice. Anyone thinking of claiming he is not as mature as he could be, remember what site your on.

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#76 Bleak Winter
July 30 2013, 10:47AM
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Reading some of the comments, the way some of you guys hate voices, pauses, attitudes, treatment of callers, catch-phrases, blatant corporate mouth-piecing or outright shilling, fart-catching or conversely the beating of certain issues to death, it's amazing you even listen to talk radio at all!!! Turn the dial up to some easy listening and unwind a bit.

Personal favorite is Gregor's show, because everyone makes an appearance. I only get to listen to half though. I catch up with podcasts but those haven't been as regular lately?

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#77 Jesse
July 30 2013, 10:52AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Oh, all you are looking for is balance and fair representation -- in an opinion piece. How noble.

I'm basically taking this as an admission that you care not to possess a balanced opinion. Noted.

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#78 Bleak Winter
July 30 2013, 10:54AM
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@Scott in Grande Prairie

I don't listen much to Tencer because I find his stuff a little forced. He seems to swing between conciliatory and abrasive on an issue depending on what the need is at any given time.

My favorite Tencer moment was after this last late season gong-show loss to Minnesota (I think), he says to Rob Brown in the post-game something to the effect of "You know what it's like on a team when the season is going badly, you just reach the point where you collectively give up..." and Rob Brown says almost angrily, "No. I have no idea what that's like. I have never played on a team with that little pride or effort". Tencer stammered pretty good at that! Kudos to Brown for not playing along.

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#79 rickithebear
July 30 2013, 11:03AM
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Stauffer and Spector are both mega phones. They loudly get a larger audience for the people doing the real speaking.

Stauffer - oilers Spector - Sportsnet TOR MSM.

Give me thinkers! You included!

Sometimes your statements anger me!

but they are the voice of a sgae.

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#80 rickithebear
July 30 2013, 11:07AM
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You need to differntiate point of view and opinion.

Opinion is a point of view not based on facts or Knowledge.

most of the stuff on here is a point of view!

Gregor saying Petry had a bad year would be Opinion!

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#81 book¡e
July 30 2013, 11:09AM
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There seems to be some kind of criticism targeted towards LT regarding his encouraging his listeners to vote for him in on an online poll.

I simply cannot fathom what kind of idiot could come to the conclusion that this is 'classless' or somehow an issue of integrity. My hope (for humanity) is that this is simply someone trolling and not a serious comment, but I suspect it is indeed a real comment.

Online polls are nothing more than a fun talking point. They are not representative, nor are they really meaningful. That LT saw this poll and encouraged people to vote for him is all part of the fun. David Staples would no doubt be pleased as more traffic would be directed to his post.

It's entertainment. It's all just entertainment.

Seriously, some days its hard to comprehend the stupidity that is out there.

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#82 RMS
July 30 2013, 11:33AM
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Stauffer - I enjoy him the most even though he is somewhat mooted now by working on CHED and being an Oilers employee. I liked him even more when he had Total Sports as his sports knowledge is second to none.

Gregor - I find myself becoming increasingly turned off. The arrogance, crudeness and belittling of callers is getting a little hard to take. A lot of charity work doesn't mask over insufferable pride. He's really good at interviewing and his guests are often excellent.

Mitchell - he's growing on me big time. Would like to see him expand the show to include more baseball and football.

Tencer - The older he got, the more he matured, the better he became. Remember he replaced Al Stafford. 1000 times better and my guess is that many of us will miss him.

Neilson/Fraser - this show is way better than before. I actually listen to it and enjoy it now. The previous incarnations were bad radio.

Spector - He gets excellent guests in his Media experts. He's getting better. Tough time slot though and really isn't a different format than Oilers Lunch, which I think hurts him. It's 'insider' vs 'insider' and 'personality' vs 'personality'.

Strudwick - the jury is still out for me. Often stop listening very soon in. Not sure why, as he seems to be a good guy and Majeau is pretty cool.

WOULD LIKE TO SEE:

Storms/Curry Show - an all girls broadcast team would be very unique. I would cut the Gregor and the Spector show by an hour each to make room for this.

Grumpy Old Sports Men Show - Bring back John Short, pair him with Robin Brownlee and give it the early evening timeslot. Bump out PrimeTime Sports to make it happen.

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#83 Quicksilver ballet
July 30 2013, 11:34AM
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Is it just me, or is Stauffer starting to look like one of those giant man eating trolls from the Hobbit.

I keep it on 1260 95% of the time as well. I will concede, when i'm out of signal range I will try and stomach that pair of Marys from that other station. The more hockey conversation, the better.

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#84 Matt Henderson
July 30 2013, 11:34AM
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@book¡e

But now kids will grow up with no faith in the Poll Heros they used to worship! Will we ever trust Polls to be clean again?

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#86 I tried it at home
July 30 2013, 11:42AM
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I'm somewhat bored, so here's my 2 cents. Lowetide is well informed and has a great way of involving the listener. I listen to Gregor and Brownlee when I can, Wednesdays and Thursdays, not because I think they're the best, but simply I enjoy their banter. Ive also disagreed with them from time to time, but had to acknowledge they have informed opinions. Ive also learned quite a bit listening in. Im starting to like Strudwick on late, his show is like sitting down to share beers and stories with a buddy. Stauffer used to be my favorite, not so much now. Tencer... no opinion really. Nonfactor to me. As for Neilson, ugh. We lost Jake Roberts for this clown? Ugh. I hear his voice filling in for someone else, I change the channel. Life's too short to listen to that crap. That's my opinion, obviously, yours could vary.

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#87 Quicksilver ballet
July 30 2013, 11:53AM
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I agree with book¡e...

We should all just weapon up, and Purge other sports fans we don't agree with. Go all Anchorman on those biotches.

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#88 Smokey
July 30 2013, 12:00PM
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@Mike

And its awesome his resume is so great so he can move to the morning slot and piss off the older generation like he pissed off Oiler fans for 5 years.

I don't understand the credence anyone would give to a guy who never played hockey. I can't take the guy's opinion seriously. Guy was given the voice for radio, but the brains was lacking. I don't know how he will do at news, neither will I will ever find out.

He's the new Bryan Hall, and I haven't listened to that guy since I moved to Alberta. I imagine their will be those who get suckered in by a smooth voice, and ignore the lack of substance. Seriously at 27 he impresses me for getting so far with just a voice, but as someone pointed out voice and pizaz can only make up for lack of knowledge and life experience so long. Guys a kid and trust me I got no issue with that.

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#89 Dave
July 30 2013, 12:30PM
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@RMS

I love that Gregor challenges his callers, when they bring up inaccurate or idiotic points.

I don't want a host to let the guys talk about stupid trade rumours about Omark. It is dumb radio. I usually can't believe Gregor is so patient with his callers.

I like his show more when he doesn't go to callers. I find he uses texts more, which means his producer can weed out the dumb ones. Much better radio IMO.

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#90 Smokey
July 30 2013, 12:32PM
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Bleak Winter wrote:

I don't listen much to Tencer because I find his stuff a little forced. He seems to swing between conciliatory and abrasive on an issue depending on what the need is at any given time.

My favorite Tencer moment was after this last late season gong-show loss to Minnesota (I think), he says to Rob Brown in the post-game something to the effect of "You know what it's like on a team when the season is going badly, you just reach the point where you collectively give up..." and Rob Brown says almost angrily, "No. I have no idea what that's like. I have never played on a team with that little pride or effort". Tencer stammered pretty good at that! Kudos to Brown for not playing along.

That's the guy I missed. Brown is pretty damn good on the radio. If I had to listen to Oilers post game, Rob Brown carried Tenser's jock.

Strudwick paired with "Down goes Brown," would be awesome. Team should get that guy.

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#91 ed in mada
July 30 2013, 12:33PM
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borisnikov wrote:

Brownlee,

Where did you gather the CKUA tidbit from? Just a thought or have you actually heard something? I'm for sure in the minority here but if SN tries to gobble up CKUA it would be an absolute crime. There are a million other numbers on the AM dial SN could get a license for, no?

It's obviously not everyone's cup of tea but eclectic radio is rare and refreshing. I hope they leave it alone.

I also hope the UA rumor is no more than that. I thought UA was a not for profit venture so why would they sell to SN? Unless they have a plan to take the cash and re-invent themselves. Maybe just be a FM station.

I would put Spector on the top of my list. He tends to be the most thoughtful of the lot and is generally logical in his approach. If SN gets a station I expect he would move into the drive home slot. Gregor is okay, but his arguments are not so well thought out (at times) and he fall into the Jim Rome trap of thinking if he repeats his argument enough times it will have more credence. Stauffer has become too much of a mouthpiece for the organization and can't talk critically of it.

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#93 Walter Sobchak
July 30 2013, 01:37PM
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I like both (Stauffer & Gregor) .

During the 06 playoff run Gregor hooked me as a life long fan, he had amazing energy that transcended into the radio.

I know he's said he has no loyalty to any team, but I was convinced he still had a little Oiler fan in there some where during that run.

I still like listening to Stauffer but the edge is gone, it's a softer Bob, which I don't have a problem with, I just wish we could have really heard (1260 Bob) opinion on the Oilers, the Oilers management and what he really thinks the Oilers should do.

Brownlee your not to shabby yourself.

Great time to be a listener in Edmonton though.

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#94 roger
July 30 2013, 02:24PM
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i no longer listen to gregor like one of the comments i find his arrogance off putting. i rarely get a chance to listen to stauffer's show but if i do i i stay tuned in. all this radio talk gets me thinking of the mike richards show, i have to imagine whomever is in charge of the calgary team station had a bad day when he told them he was leaving.

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#95 rubbertrout
July 30 2013, 02:27PM
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@Matt Henderson

I would happily listen to Lowetide's show more often if I could but it conflicts with work. Great radio voice, awesome blog, great variety of guests and perspectives.

You're just saying that because he had you on once Arch ;)

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#96 Rocket
July 30 2013, 02:50PM
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I wonder what new sports personality will take over Tencer's job?

I like them all but especially Lowetide. I also really like it when Stauffer has Tyler Dellow from MC79 hockey on. Gregor is great when he's fired up; like lately when he ripped on The Eskimoes.

Strudwick is entertaining but has a HORRIBLE taste in movies.

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#97 Spaceman Spiff
July 30 2013, 02:53PM
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And its awesome his resume is so great so he can move to the morning slot and piss off the older generation like he pissed off Oiler fans for 5 years.

I don't understand the credence anyone would give to a guy who never played hockey. I can't take the guy's opinion seriously. Guy was given the voice for radio, but the brains was lacking. I don't know how he will do at news, neither will I will ever find out.

He's the new Bryan Hall, and I haven't listened to that guy since I moved to Alberta. I imagine their will be those who get suckered in by a smooth voice, and ignore the lack of substance. Seriously at 27 he impresses me for getting so far with just a voice, but as someone pointed out voice and pizaz can only make up for lack of knowledge and life experience so long. Guys a kid and trust me I got no issue with that.

With all due respect, regarding your assertion that you don’t understand how anyone would give “credence to a (media) guy who never played hockey,” I think you have to be careful. If you base your opinions of media reporters – in sports, news or other fields-of-coverage – on whether or not they have any personal or professional connections to what they’re covering , you’re going to find that there are few you would take seriously … and that isn’t fair.

Remember the controversy during the playoffs when Duncan Keith practically broke his stick over one of the Sedin twins on the breakaway? The incident turned into a two-day tempest-in-a-teapot after Keith got into it with the female reporter, implying that she wasn’t qualified to judge if it was a penalty or not because she hadn’t played the game. And that was ridiculous. Anyone who’s ever swung a rake at their kid-brother would know that it was a penalty. You didn’t have to know a thing about hockey to know that Keith did something reckless and stupid. And he was the stupid one for implying that you did.

Generally speaking, media outlets don’t ask prospective hockey writers or beat reporters on whether or not they’ve lined up for a faceoff or not. Rather, the reporter gets the job based on their quality of their work, the questions they would ask and, of course, their actual reporting experience. Whether or not they played jungle-B for the Sexsmith Vipers or Beaverlodge Blades really doesn’t come into it the job-interview at a newspaper at all. Why? Because the sports media are (or should be) the fans’ representative in the dressing room. They aren’t the players’ representative for the fans.

Yes – there is obviously room in today’s media for the former-athlete-turned -reporter, but I would say they’re only there to provide a viewpoint as a “commentator.” They’re not (usually) there for the reporting and , even if they are there for their thoughts and opinions, they aren’t necessarily the people who have the best-argued opinions.

And they weren’t always welcome there. I remember watching a documentary on Howard Cosell a few years ago and he was a HUGE opponent of move by the networks in the 1970s to bring in former players to sports broadcasts. It was always his opinion that sports-journalism was too sacred to be bringing in sympathizing players. He bristled at the idea that sideline-reporters would be ex-players. He wanted that distance between the reporters and the players. The disconnect made for more objectivity.

Anyway, please don’t take any offense to this rant. I do agree that Tencer’s advancing because of his skills as a broadcaster … but there’s nothing wrong with that. That’s the business.

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#98 Doug
July 30 2013, 03:08PM
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I have to chime in here. I like Gregor the best and for my two cents, he's done a lot to grow his brand here in Edmonton since taking over the big time slot.

I think those who are making the claims that Gregor is arrogant are just a little bit insecure and don't like the confidence they hear in his voice.

And by the way, some of the trade proposals suggested by Oiler fans are beyond stupid. If I were Gregor, I'd get a bit exasperated with those callers too.

As a guy who consumes all the sports I can, and not just hockey, I appreciate Gregor and Neilson for doing what they can to mix in a little NBA, MMA, NFL, whatever. It was nice during May and June to hear somebody talk NBA playoffs for a change.

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#99 roger
July 30 2013, 03:19PM
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Doug wrote:

I have to chime in here. I like Gregor the best and for my two cents, he's done a lot to grow his brand here in Edmonton since taking over the big time slot.

I think those who are making the claims that Gregor is arrogant are just a little bit insecure and don't like the confidence they hear in his voice.

And by the way, some of the trade proposals suggested by Oiler fans are beyond stupid. If I were Gregor, I'd get a bit exasperated with those callers too.

As a guy who consumes all the sports I can, and not just hockey, I appreciate Gregor and Neilson for doing what they can to mix in a little NBA, MMA, NFL, whatever. It was nice during May and June to hear somebody talk NBA playoffs for a change.

it's my opinion which i have no problem voicing, we all have them. any insecurities i have do not have anything to do with what i listen to on the radio. with regard to the foolish trade proposals i don't belive that gives anyone licence to treat their listeners poorly, they make up the shows market.

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#100 Doug
July 30 2013, 04:05PM
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Fair enough.

My opinion is that Gregor states his opinions with confidence because he has the research and the knowledge to back them up. The same cannot usually be said of the callers that seem to get his ire from time to time.

I wouldn't say he treats his listeners poorly - he gives us up to four hours of quality sports radio every day. Even if he is occasionally impatient with some of the less educated opinions he has to listen to, I think on the balance his net contribution to the discussion is positive.

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