15 FOR THE OILERS

Lowetide
July 03 2013 04:46PM

 

The Edmonton Oilers go to market this week with a laundry list of needs: a scoring winger, at least two centermen, a top 4 defender and a goalie capable of filling a strong backup role. That's a long list. Much of it can be solved via free agency, and here are 15 names worth pursuing.

MY FIFTEEN FOR THE OILERS

(Viktor Stalberg)

  1. L-C Valtteri Filppula: A big ticket item but worth the investment. Hard worker who is a demon on the forecheck, posts solid to very good offense and can play more than one position (always a MacT preference). A wide range of skills, Edmonton can plug him onto the tough minutes like and watch him go. Extreme value. 
  2. R David Clarkson: Long shot but worth the call. Clarkson's asking price will be too rich in the extreme, but his value to a club like Edmonton (giving them a big body with skill who can play up the lineup would be a nice add. 
  3. W Viktor Stalberg: A nice match for the soft minutes line, Stalberg can flourish in that environment and you know the Oilers have enough skill to put two quality F's with him. I like this player. 
  4. D Tom Gilbert: I understand he was bought out and certainly the numbers can be viewed as poor; however, there have been no reports (that I've seen) of injury and he's young enough to assume a return to previous form is likely. I suspect Oilers Nation writers will split right down the middle on this, but Tom Gilbert is a strong option in my opinion. MacT used him 21+ minutes a night. 
  5. G Anton Khudobin: Placed here because the organization clearly feels upgrading the goaltending is a key. Khudobin has been brough along slowly (the right way) and should be ready to take on a larger role. 
  6. L Clarke MacArthur: Veteran LW with grit and toughness plus an ability to score goals. Oilers could use him on a 3line as a 'Glencross' type or the 2line for puck retrieval and goal scoring. A nice addition, range of skills. 
  7. C Boyd Gordon: Don't get fooled by the ranking, this might be the most important name on the list. Gordon has outstanding checking ability, takes own zone draws (successfully) and can PK with aplomb. Oilers may have to overpay but with Horcoff leaving he's a vital addition. 
  8. L Ryan Clowe: Maybe the best puck retrieval option among this year's free agent crop, Clowe has good hands and is a solid puck passer. Foot speed a worry but not a deal breaker. 
  9. D Paul Ranger: Oilers have the inside track on a capable depth defenseman, and maybe he's more than that. It it absolutely worth it to find out if he can play in the NHL at a high level. 
  10. C Stephen Weiss: A Florida Panthers for many years, Weiss arrives at free agency after an injury plagued year. That shouldn't scare NHL teams off however, he's a quality player with a nice range of skills.
  11. L Pierre Marc Bouchard: As an Oiler fan, I want him on the Oilers if only because that means he won't be scoring on the Oildrop every damn time I return from the beer fridge. 48, 12-30-42 against Edmonton, by far his favorite team to score on--but you knew that before I said it.
  12. L Dustin Penner: I buried him in this list so you'd read this far, but for me Penner is a plug and play on the Gagner line and someone who also had great chem with Hemsky. He won't be back, but I'd vote for him.
  13. R Peter Mueller: He's had concussion problems and is no speed burner, but when healthy Mueller can impact the offense and the puck is going in the right direction. Might make a solid depth signing. 
  14. D Matt Hunwick. Slightly undersized puck moving defender who incredibly found his way to free agency this week. I think he's a solid option. 
  15. G Ilyz Bryzgalov. I know his numbers have been going the wrong way for three years and I know he's 30. I would take a chance on him with a one year deal at a low price--he could rebound in a big way and it's certainly worth the risk. 

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

I'm guessing the following:

  • GOAL: Anton Khudobin
  • DEFENSE: Paul Ranger, Tom Gilbert
  • CENTER: Boyd Gordon
  • WINGERS: Viktor Stalberg

What about you?

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#1 nuge2nail
July 03 2013, 04:54PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

Goal: Bryzgalov

Defense: Ference, Gilbert

Center: Z Smith, Gordon

Wingers: Clowe, Stalberg

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#2 TwoSkidoos
July 03 2013, 04:59PM
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Except for Tom Gilbert, I think you've nailed it with the ideal players I'd like to see in Oil uni's via free agency.

I do like Ference - solid veteran presence.

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#3 RJ
July 03 2013, 05:01PM
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I'm a Tootoo fan. Love his compete level, his willingness to stand up for a teammate, and he's a pretty decent skater as well. He's not the tallest player, but if we're judging on energy level, he's someone the Oilers could use. Why no love for Tootoo?

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#4 Metal&Oil
July 03 2013, 05:02PM
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When Gilbert was on the Ice the Wild's Goaltenders had a save % of.877. By far the worst of any Wild Dman who played over 6 games.

By comparison when Corry Potter was on the ice the Oilers goaltenders Save % was a team high .957

I would give Potter the chance at an expanded role over signing Gilbert.

I also think UFA Matt Cooke should be on this list. Exactly what we need on the 3rd line(+ he can move up if needed).

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#5 Nomad787
July 03 2013, 05:02PM
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If the Oilers can land Clarkson or Clowe than thats great but not holding my breath and don't want them to regret it in a year or two. The consequence is it buries Paajarvi, who I think will end up having better puck retrievel skills then both these players but lacking the toughness element. In my opinion Paajarvi is already the best forechecker on the team, and will only get better with confidence at using his good size to seperate defenders from the puck, also he has shown good chemistry with Yakupov. If the Oil don't land a top LW then Im more then fine with Paajarvi. The Oil then can set their sights on more important places centre and defense.

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#6 IfBruceLeeWasAnOiler
July 03 2013, 05:03PM
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Tom gilbert, no no no tell me MacT you wont sign him please

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#7 Young Oil
July 03 2013, 05:04PM
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Is there any legitimacy to the rumor that the Oilers are in discussion with a Russian Dman? If so, is that likely Grebeshkov?

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#8 shredder
July 03 2013, 05:05PM
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Scuderi

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#9 Goilers!
July 03 2013, 05:07PM
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GOAL: Thomas

Defense: Coburn, Ranger

Centre: Filppula, Gordon

Wingers: Clarkson, Stalberg, Hendricks

How much would ^ cost??

Hall-Nuge-Eberle

Stalberg-Gagner-Yakupov

Pajaarvi-Filppulla-Clarkson

Smyth-Gordon-Brown

Coburn-J.Schultz

Smid-Petry

N.Schultz-Potter

Ranger

Dubnyk Thomas

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#10 D
July 03 2013, 05:14PM
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LT,

With a weaker free agent market this year, do the Oil take a pass and save the cap space for next year?

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#11 Quintana
July 03 2013, 05:24PM
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

Goal: Bryzgalov

Defense: Ference, Gilbert

Center: Z Smith, Gordon

Wingers: Clowe, Stalberg

This , but Khudobin...........not Bryzgalov...

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#12 vetinari
July 03 2013, 05:24PM
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[adopts Shatner pose, clutch fists and scream]

PENNER!!!!!!!

Sorry, but I found Penner's compete level varied between Sedated Sloth and Pancake Stuffed Turtle most nights.

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#13 NAILinthecoffin
July 03 2013, 05:28PM
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Probably a bit too much but I would be thrilled if MacT landed: Wings: MacCarthur, Bouchard, Centre: Gordon Defence: Gilbert, Ranger and Hunwick or the rumoured Russian Goalie: Khudobin

Leaving a Center or two (Peverley... I wish) and a depth winger or two to acquire through trade, reasonable?

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#14 NAILinthecoffin
July 03 2013, 05:28PM
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Probably a bit too much but I would be thrilled if MacT landed: Wings: MacCarthur, Bouchard, Centre: Gordon Defence: Gilbert, Ranger and Hunwick or the rumoured Russian Goalie: Khudobin

Leaving a Center or two (Peverley... I wish) and a depth winger or two to acquire through trade, reasonable?

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#15 NAILinthecoffin
July 03 2013, 05:28PM
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Probably a bit too much but I would be thrilled if MacT landed: Wings: MacCarthur, Bouchard, Centre: Gordon Defence: Gilbert, Ranger and Hunwick or the rumoured Russian Goalie: Khudobin

Leaving a Center or two (Peverley... I wish) and a depth winger or two to acquire through trade, reasonable?

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#16 Ray
July 03 2013, 05:33PM
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Please,please....not Gilbert !!!!!

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#17 CDean
July 03 2013, 05:39PM
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GOAL: Anton Khudobin DEFENSE: Paul Ranger CENTER: Boyd Gordon, WINGERS: Valtteri Filppula, Clark MacArthur

Plus the trading for a number 1D (Coburn) and the signing of another center for the 4th line, not sure who.

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#18 Naky
July 03 2013, 05:46PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ns14hRqwY8

No to Bryz. Always no to Bryz. Yeah, yeah, his agent threw it out there that he'd consider playing there but watch that interview and see how much of that you believe. He's a borderline insane manchild of declining skill who WILL be a pouty princess the moment the snow falls.

Honestly. I'd rather sign DiPietro than Bryz and that says a lot.

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#19 Bonvie
July 03 2013, 05:47PM
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That seems to be a pretty complete list of anybody that is worth looking at, I would like to add Michael Ryder, Blake Comeau, Radek Dvorak, and Brendan Morrow.

As normal the top half half of these players will be signed to contracts that they will never be able to deliver on, but somewhere in their will be about half a dozen good signings if the Oilers select their targets wisely hopefully we can snag one.

Adversely we need to avoid signing an albatross.

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#20 Oilbridge
July 03 2013, 06:00PM
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Hey lowetide, reading reports that negotiations with the Blues and Chris Stewart aren't going well. He might be available. What would you give up if you were MacT? Either extended or not, that will affect the return from the Oil. Would there be any possibility of getting both Stewart and Jbo? Both have one year left on their deals.

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#21 YFC Prez
July 03 2013, 06:03PM
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I wonder how MacArthur plays on the right side. A 3rd line of PRV ,Boyd Gordon, and MacArthur looks just about right to me. Sign a back-up and somehow land Coburn and I would be ecstatic!!

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#22 a lg dubl dubl
July 03 2013, 06:15PM
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Ive got one big HELLZ NO to Tammy Gilbert, he sucked here, he sucked in Minny, why bring him back?

Filppula, Wiess, and Stalberg up front

Ranger on the back end

Emery or Khudobin in goal

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#23 Hall Awaits
July 03 2013, 06:19PM
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Did anyone hear anything about the Oilers being close to signing Oleg Saprykin?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=45069

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#25 Zev
July 03 2013, 06:26PM
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I'll have a 5, 6, 7,9 and 14.

Thank you

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#26 madjam
July 03 2013, 06:28PM
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First off - I doubt recycling at this stage is a forward step. There are a few that could be upgrades on that list from present personnel . Those ones might be more costly than worth going after in a bidding war , and none appear to be star caliber players that you might otherwise overpay . If they were that good and a decent contract , i'd find it odd their parent club would let them go so easily in the first place . However , on occasion we are going to have to upgrade sometime and unfortunately have to overpay to do so .Clarkson and Clowe perhaps .

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#27 GVBlackhawk
July 03 2013, 06:35PM
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YFC Prez wrote:

I wonder how MacArthur plays on the right side. A 3rd line of PRV ,Boyd Gordon, and MacArthur looks just about right to me. Sign a back-up and somehow land Coburn and I would be ecstatic!!

That's a pretty respectable 3rd line. MPS can play RW if MacArthur isn't comfortable there.

I wonder how much discussion management has had on moving MPS to center? Seems like he would be a fantastic 3C -- great skating and defensive awareness. That said, Gordon would be a better choice at 3C right now.

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#28 Eddie Shore
July 03 2013, 06:43PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Stewart had a strange year. His even strength scoring rate was tops on the team (2.17/60 at 5x5 best on the team) and he got a pretty big push in offensive zone start. He played tough competition, which means he was scoring against the best available. HOWEVER, his shot differentail (shots for/against while on ice) was dreadful.

So I don't know. I wouldn't trade Paajarvi for him, MP is going to be a much better player imo.

Much better? Stewart scored 28 goals during his 22 yr old season. Do you think MPS will score 28 goals this season..or ever? I don't see his offensive ceiling being that high.

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#29 Sincethewhadays
July 03 2013, 06:57PM
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Goilers! wrote:

GOAL: Thomas

Defense: Coburn, Ranger

Centre: Filppula, Gordon

Wingers: Clarkson, Stalberg, Hendricks

How much would ^ cost??

Hall-Nuge-Eberle

Stalberg-Gagner-Yakupov

Pajaarvi-Filppulla-Clarkson

Smyth-Gordon-Brown

Coburn-J.Schultz

Smid-Petry

N.Schultz-Potter

Ranger

Dubnyk Thomas

Yes please...I remember when we picked up Pronger and Peca. I thought it was a Miracle. Those pick ups would be an even bigger one...but evidently they're possible.

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#30 DigDeepNBleedBlue
July 03 2013, 06:59PM
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My realistic approach to an FA list. Signed at a year or two:

C Elias

C Lapierre

LW MacArthur Would prefer Clarkson! Or Clowe to a lesser extent. Signed, ideally, 3-6 yrs.

D Murray or D Fistric and D Hunwick

G Griess

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#32 GVBlackhawk
July 03 2013, 07:03PM
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Metal&Oil wrote:

When Gilbert was on the Ice the Wild's Goaltenders had a save % of.877. By far the worst of any Wild Dman who played over 6 games.

By comparison when Corry Potter was on the ice the Oilers goaltenders Save % was a team high .957

I would give Potter the chance at an expanded role over signing Gilbert.

I also think UFA Matt Cooke should be on this list. Exactly what we need on the 3rd line(+ he can move up if needed).

A goalie's save percentage or team on-ice save percentage is a metric used to calculate the goaltenders' effect on team performance. This means that the Wild goalies were terrible when Gilbert was on the ice, thus contributing to Gilbert's poor numbers.

He's not an ideal choice, but he can skate, pass, and play of lot of minutes. He would allow for JSchultz to play more protected minutes for a one year term. Gilbert is actually a low risk, decent acquisition.

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#33 Racki
July 03 2013, 07:05PM
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Gilbert.. I'd take him back, if he would accept a much more limited role and for a a very modest pay cheque. Maybe we start with 1 year to give him a shot to redeem himself. We put him on a 3rd pairing, and you've got a bottom pair of Belov and Gilbert who bring a mixed bag of skills. Gilbert's ability to launch a perfect breakout pass is also going to be a big help.

You could also put Gilbert on line 2, and drop J. Schultz down for easier 5 on 5 minutes.

It might be a bit of a risk, but if we also picked up Paul Ranger, we could move N. Schultz.

That would leave:

Smid Petry

Ranger J. Schultz

Belov Gilbert

It's not all-worldly, but it has the potential to surprise and provide solid offense. Has the potential to bomb too, however, so my preference would be to acquire a solid shut down d-man instead.. but it could work.

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#34 oilabroad
July 03 2013, 07:06PM
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I am not sold on Stalberg, it just seems to me if you are going to pay someone that kind of money, get somebody with a little more compete... I hope they over pay for Clarkson, he is just what we need. I like Ranger as a number 6 or 7, but we REALLY need a top 2... Not easy to find but MacT has to make it happen, a 3-4 will not do it. After that I would plug the holes with bottom 6s who know how to check, agitate and have some size. In goal, I would go with Khudobin, being adequate and cheap in the net will give us more money elsewhere

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#35 French Toast Mafia
July 03 2013, 07:07PM
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LT I have a really hard time understanding why signing a 29 year old who has only scored over 40 points once in his career is a good idea? If he makes 5 million that would be a gross contract for little production. Aren't we trying to get rid of guys that can't produce?

VF has put up horcoff like numbers his whole career. Get rid of horcoff and Hemsky and replace him with another 5 million dollar cap hit with not much offensive punch. I don't understand the logic

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#37 DSF
July 03 2013, 07:12PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Stewart had a strange year. His even strength scoring rate was tops on the team (2.17/60 at 5x5 best on the team) and he got a pretty big push in offensive zone start. He played tough competition, which means he was scoring against the best available. HOWEVER, his shot differentail (shots for/against while on ice) was dreadful.

So I don't know. I wouldn't trade Paajarvi for him, MP is going to be a much better player imo.

Good grief LT.

"His even strength scoring rate was tops on the team (2.17/60 at 5x5 best on the team)"

"He played tough competition, which means he was scoring against the best available."

"His shot differentail (shots for/against while on ice) was dreadful."

When, exactly, did shot differential trump being the best on your team in scoring against tough competition?

Then, to suggest Paajarvi, who has a Corsi On of -12.88 against weak competition is "going to be a much better player" doesn't work by math or by eye.

Paajarvi:

P/60 5V5 1.54

Qual Comp - 6th among Oilers forwards

Corsi On - -12.88

Stewart:

P/60 5V5 2.17

Qual Comp - 3rd among Blues forwards

Corsi ON - -1.98

Stewart scored 18 goals and 36 points in half a season.

Paajarvi scored 9 goals and 16 points in the same half season.

One of these players is much, much better than the other and it's not even close.

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#38 Edsez
July 03 2013, 07:20PM
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shredder wrote:

Scuderi

3 finals in the last 6 years, his name scratched on the cup twice ..... he could teach these kids a thing or two that's for sure

is he worth the $4 mil + he'll cost, though, to have a proven, been there done that, veteran guy in the room who's, maybe at 35, getting a little slow and has never been known as a puck handler ?

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#39 Bonvie
July 03 2013, 07:24PM
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DigDeepNBleedBlue wrote:

My realistic approach to an FA list. Signed at a year or two:

C Elias

C Lapierre

LW MacArthur Would prefer Clarkson! Or Clowe to a lesser extent. Signed, ideally, 3-6 yrs.

D Murray or D Fistric and D Hunwick

G Griess

You realize were talking about a pool of about 30 to 40 NHL serviceable players available to be signed and 30 teams trying to sign them. At least 10 GMs have no regards to long term salary cap situations or sustainability, and are more than willing to sign a horrible contract to get a player.

Taking this into consideration we should be really happy with just one good signing and over the moon with two good signings.

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#40 OilClog
July 03 2013, 07:28PM
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Goal - Emery. C - Seguin, Gordon, Thorensen W - MacCarthur, Stalberg, Gerbe D - Ference, Schultz..Jeff lol.

Seguin Gagner Ebs Gordon MacCarthur Stalberg Thorensen Smyth Gerbe

Smid Petry Ference Jultz 1 Belov Jultz 2 Potter

Dubnyk Emery

Klef starts in the A. Or Potter is on the outs.

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#41 OilClog
July 03 2013, 07:33PM
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Why did is only post part of my post? first double posts now part posts!!

RNH Hall Yak .. Top line

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#42 DigDeepNBleedBlue
July 03 2013, 07:38PM
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Bonvie wrote:

You realize were talking about a pool of about 30 to 40 NHL serviceable players available to be signed and 30 teams trying to sign them. At least 10 GMs have no regards to long term salary cap situations or sustainability, and are more than willing to sign a horrible contract to get a player.

Taking this into consideration we should be really happy with just one good signing and over the moon with two good signings.

Apparently no... Please, further enlighten me with your great understanding of the National Hockey League.

Anyhoo.

Lines with 6 FAs:

Hall-RNH-Yakupov

MacArthur-Elias-Eberle

Paajarvi-Lapierre-Gagner

Eager-Lander-Pitlick

EX: Smyth & Brown

J.Schultz-Smid

Petry-Belov

Murray-Hunwick

EX: N.Schultz

Dubnyk Griess

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#43 Oilbridge
July 03 2013, 07:39PM
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@DSF

LT, I have to go with DSF on this, even though I feel dirty for saying it. I didn't provide who I would give up in a trade. I feel Stewart can provide skill, size and toughness that we are sorely missing in the top 6. He can protect he kids while contributing offensively. What other assets would we be able to peddle for Stewart without including MPS, Klefdom or nurse? Who you offer up Marcinin?

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#44 madjam
July 03 2013, 07:45PM
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Fillipula is much like Hemsky without the flair and not quite as good -i'd just as soon we kept Hemsky than Fillipula . Paajarvi vs. Stewart - I go with the board , net presence and physicality of Stewart hands down . Nice thing is Stewart takes the game inside where Paajarvi still plays bulk of his game on the periphery . Stewart also very good at the board game , something we sadly lack . Like Paajarvi and he should improve , but Stewart brings more of what we need on this club .

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#45 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
July 03 2013, 07:45PM
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Go hard after 1,2,3,5 and 10. We'd be fortunate to land even one of them. The rest aren't any better than what's here already.

Khudobin signs in Vancouver, leaving the Oilers with, the guy who's scared of bears.

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#46 Skidrow Gutterbum
July 03 2013, 07:48PM
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How about taking a flyer on SJ UFA G Thomas Greiss? Only 27 yrs old, could be a decent backup to Dubnyk, or at the least some depth for OKC. Only made 625k last year, so could likely get him on a 2 yr deal at less than $2 mill. Has been a solid backup/number 3 for several years in SJ, occasionally filling in as a starter with decent numbers. Could fight it out with someone else for the backup spot.

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#47 15w40
July 03 2013, 07:48PM
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UFA Centre - Boyd Gordon UFA Forward - Mueller UFA Defense - Hunwick, maybe Kris Russel UFA Goalie - Khudobin 1st Emery 2nd

Chris Stewart is exactly the type of player the Oilers need but I don't think St. Louis does it straight up for Pajaarvi - they will want more.

Can't see Clarkson even listening to the Oilers - I can't see him signing anywhere west of the eastern most point of the great lakes.

Keep on Coburn to see if the demanded return becomes more reasonable.

See if Detroit would listen to a Hemsky for Tootoo swap in some form whether it includes some retained salary or something else.

See what the leafs would want in return for Joe Colborne.

I can't see Horcoff being sent anywhere except to a cap floor team like the Isles, Coyotes, or maybe the Panthers but he has a limited NTC so I'm pretty sure none of those teams will be on his list. The only way he gets moved is if the Oilers take an equally bad contract back or retain half of the cap hit.

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#48 CheechemOrBust
July 03 2013, 07:50PM
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Why is Damien Brunner not getting any love on any board? if we could gut Detroit of val flip and one Damien Brunner for say 8 mil total we would be far ahead of the curve. This years ufa forward crop is weak and will break your heart

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#49 michael
July 03 2013, 08:09PM
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Clarkson will not sign in the West. Fillpula is the guy I would want at 3rd line center. The rest are meh. Khoudobin is the guy I would be also interested in at a 1.6 million price point. Other than that we should put a package together for Chris Stewart. Also what would it cost in terms of assets to get a Colburn from Philly? They'll be going hard after Clarkson I bet on it. He is exactly their type of player. They'll overpay to get him from NJ. With Vinny there now for the next 4 years you'd think a guy like Brayden Shenn is now expendable. A package of picks and prospects to Philly so they can shed salary in Philly seems a likely scenario. Especially if they feel Clarkson can be had. Plus who is going to be their goalie? Emery? Come Friday the picture will be muddier. MacT needs to horde his pennies so that he can fleece Holmgren. Wait till after Philly makes their moves is my thought. They'll be asking a whole lot less come next week vs what they will ask this week.

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#50 Mean Machine
July 03 2013, 08:12PM
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1) Sign Mueller 2) Sign Pouliot 3) Paajarvi + 2nd for Shawn Matthias + 3rd rounder 4) Trade Gagner + 2014 1st+ Musil for Keith Yandle 5) Sign Boyd Gordon and Lapriere 6) Hemsky for whatever - apparently his price will go up after the big wingers are signed 7)Send Hamilton for Kyle Beach

Hall/Mueller Yak Matthias/Nuge/Eberle Pouliot/Gordon/Jones Beach/Lapriere/Brown

Yandle/Petry Smid/Schultz Jr Belov/Schutlz

Gives versatility as Matthias can play W/C, Mueller can play W/C, I'd also consider giving Kyle Beach a look on a line with Nuge and Eberle. Big, mean guy with a scoring touch.

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