15 FOR THE OILERS

Lowetide
July 03 2013 04:46PM

 

The Edmonton Oilers go to market this week with a laundry list of needs: a scoring winger, at least two centermen, a top 4 defender and a goalie capable of filling a strong backup role. That's a long list. Much of it can be solved via free agency, and here are 15 names worth pursuing.

MY FIFTEEN FOR THE OILERS

(Viktor Stalberg)

  1. L-C Valtteri Filppula: A big ticket item but worth the investment. Hard worker who is a demon on the forecheck, posts solid to very good offense and can play more than one position (always a MacT preference). A wide range of skills, Edmonton can plug him onto the tough minutes like and watch him go. Extreme value. 
  2. R David Clarkson: Long shot but worth the call. Clarkson's asking price will be too rich in the extreme, but his value to a club like Edmonton (giving them a big body with skill who can play up the lineup would be a nice add. 
  3. W Viktor Stalberg: A nice match for the soft minutes line, Stalberg can flourish in that environment and you know the Oilers have enough skill to put two quality F's with him. I like this player. 
  4. D Tom Gilbert: I understand he was bought out and certainly the numbers can be viewed as poor; however, there have been no reports (that I've seen) of injury and he's young enough to assume a return to previous form is likely. I suspect Oilers Nation writers will split right down the middle on this, but Tom Gilbert is a strong option in my opinion. MacT used him 21+ minutes a night. 
  5. G Anton Khudobin: Placed here because the organization clearly feels upgrading the goaltending is a key. Khudobin has been brough along slowly (the right way) and should be ready to take on a larger role. 
  6. L Clarke MacArthur: Veteran LW with grit and toughness plus an ability to score goals. Oilers could use him on a 3line as a 'Glencross' type or the 2line for puck retrieval and goal scoring. A nice addition, range of skills. 
  7. C Boyd Gordon: Don't get fooled by the ranking, this might be the most important name on the list. Gordon has outstanding checking ability, takes own zone draws (successfully) and can PK with aplomb. Oilers may have to overpay but with Horcoff leaving he's a vital addition. 
  8. L Ryan Clowe: Maybe the best puck retrieval option among this year's free agent crop, Clowe has good hands and is a solid puck passer. Foot speed a worry but not a deal breaker. 
  9. D Paul Ranger: Oilers have the inside track on a capable depth defenseman, and maybe he's more than that. It it absolutely worth it to find out if he can play in the NHL at a high level. 
  10. C Stephen Weiss: A Florida Panthers for many years, Weiss arrives at free agency after an injury plagued year. That shouldn't scare NHL teams off however, he's a quality player with a nice range of skills.
  11. L Pierre Marc Bouchard: As an Oiler fan, I want him on the Oilers if only because that means he won't be scoring on the Oildrop every damn time I return from the beer fridge. 48, 12-30-42 against Edmonton, by far his favorite team to score on--but you knew that before I said it.
  12. L Dustin Penner: I buried him in this list so you'd read this far, but for me Penner is a plug and play on the Gagner line and someone who also had great chem with Hemsky. He won't be back, but I'd vote for him.
  13. R Peter Mueller: He's had concussion problems and is no speed burner, but when healthy Mueller can impact the offense and the puck is going in the right direction. Might make a solid depth signing. 
  14. D Matt Hunwick. Slightly undersized puck moving defender who incredibly found his way to free agency this week. I think he's a solid option. 
  15. G Ilyz Bryzgalov. I know his numbers have been going the wrong way for three years and I know he's 30. I would take a chance on him with a one year deal at a low price--he could rebound in a big way and it's certainly worth the risk. 

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

I'm guessing the following:

  • GOAL: Anton Khudobin
  • DEFENSE: Paul Ranger, Tom Gilbert
  • CENTER: Boyd Gordon
  • WINGERS: Viktor Stalberg

What about you?

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#51 15w40
July 03 2013, 07:48PM
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UFA Centre - Boyd Gordon UFA Forward - Mueller UFA Defense - Hunwick, maybe Kris Russel UFA Goalie - Khudobin 1st Emery 2nd

Chris Stewart is exactly the type of player the Oilers need but I don't think St. Louis does it straight up for Pajaarvi - they will want more.

Can't see Clarkson even listening to the Oilers - I can't see him signing anywhere west of the eastern most point of the great lakes.

Keep on Coburn to see if the demanded return becomes more reasonable.

See if Detroit would listen to a Hemsky for Tootoo swap in some form whether it includes some retained salary or something else.

See what the leafs would want in return for Joe Colborne.

I can't see Horcoff being sent anywhere except to a cap floor team like the Isles, Coyotes, or maybe the Panthers but he has a limited NTC so I'm pretty sure none of those teams will be on his list. The only way he gets moved is if the Oilers take an equally bad contract back or retain half of the cap hit.

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#52 CheechemOrBust
July 03 2013, 07:50PM
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Why is Damien Brunner not getting any love on any board? if we could gut Detroit of val flip and one Damien Brunner for say 8 mil total we would be far ahead of the curve. This years ufa forward crop is weak and will break your heart

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#53 michael
July 03 2013, 08:09PM
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Clarkson will not sign in the West. Fillpula is the guy I would want at 3rd line center. The rest are meh. Khoudobin is the guy I would be also interested in at a 1.6 million price point. Other than that we should put a package together for Chris Stewart. Also what would it cost in terms of assets to get a Colburn from Philly? They'll be going hard after Clarkson I bet on it. He is exactly their type of player. They'll overpay to get him from NJ. With Vinny there now for the next 4 years you'd think a guy like Brayden Shenn is now expendable. A package of picks and prospects to Philly so they can shed salary in Philly seems a likely scenario. Especially if they feel Clarkson can be had. Plus who is going to be their goalie? Emery? Come Friday the picture will be muddier. MacT needs to horde his pennies so that he can fleece Holmgren. Wait till after Philly makes their moves is my thought. They'll be asking a whole lot less come next week vs what they will ask this week.

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#54 Mean Machine
July 03 2013, 08:12PM
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1) Sign Mueller 2) Sign Pouliot 3) Paajarvi + 2nd for Shawn Matthias + 3rd rounder 4) Trade Gagner + 2014 1st+ Musil for Keith Yandle 5) Sign Boyd Gordon and Lapriere 6) Hemsky for whatever - apparently his price will go up after the big wingers are signed 7)Send Hamilton for Kyle Beach

Hall/Mueller Yak Matthias/Nuge/Eberle Pouliot/Gordon/Jones Beach/Lapriere/Brown

Yandle/Petry Smid/Schultz Jr Belov/Schutlz

Gives versatility as Matthias can play W/C, Mueller can play W/C, I'd also consider giving Kyle Beach a look on a line with Nuge and Eberle. Big, mean guy with a scoring touch.

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#56 Racki
July 03 2013, 08:19PM
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Heard a lot of good things from a Red Wings fan about Filppula. I am definitely on board with him as our top UFA signing. I think a good backup is still Stephen Weiss. Either of those guys will cost in the $5M range (at least). I know Fil was asking for $5M in Detroit, so when you account for Oilers-inflation, it might be a bit hefty.

I'd love a top line of the usual suspects (Hall-Nuge-Eberle) followed up with a 2nd line of Gagner-Filppula-Yakupov.

If we can sign Clowe, and trade for Talbot in some fashion, our top 3 would look thusly:

Hall-Nuge-Eberle

Gagner-Filppula-Yakupov

Clowe-Talbot-Paajarvi

I think that would be a much better top 3 lines than we've had here in some time.

Somehow forgot about Stalberg.. and MacArthur. I think any of those guys would work in Clowe's spot.. so whoever signs would work well enough there.

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#57 Quicksilver ballet
July 03 2013, 08:19PM
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@michael

That's what I was thinking. Take Mezaros/Coburn (salary dump) and Couturier. Flyers are stacked at center. Holmgren didn't want to do business on his terms last week. Let him sit tight now and do business on MacTavish's terms.

No Couturier, don't even make that call Paul. A year from now, Edmonton will be fine with the likes of Klefbom,Marincin,Belov and Nurse. Coburn would be an albatross after that first year here anyways. Mezaros has only one yr left. Combined with Couturier, it gets Holmgren where he needs to be.

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#58 Walter Sobchak
July 03 2013, 08:19PM
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This is what we can afford.

Stalberg -Gordan - Ranger.

I would press for Clowe.

This team needs to make trades, badly.

P.S Paajarvi would be the first Oiler I would axe, to suggest he's even close to Stewart is blind faith!

By numbers and by eye Stewart is much better.

Clowe and Stewart would be a god send to this team.

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#59 Walter Sobchak
July 03 2013, 08:22PM
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@Lowetide

You mean the same way you keep saying move Gagner to the wing? That same wing?

Out of all those players I would trade Paajarvi.

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#62 Racki
July 03 2013, 08:28PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 2m

Doug MacLean on NiteCap, "The two teams pushing hard for David Clarkson are Toronto & Edmonton." #oilers #mapleleafs #tmltalk Expand

BACK OFF, GET YOUR OWN SANDWICH, Toronto!!!

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#63 nuge2nail
July 03 2013, 08:29PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

This is what we can afford.

Stalberg -Gordan - Ranger.

I would press for Clowe.

This team needs to make trades, badly.

P.S Paajarvi would be the first Oiler I would axe, to suggest he's even close to Stewart is blind faith!

By numbers and by eye Stewart is much better.

Clowe and Stewart would be a god send to this team.

Oiler Domination To Follow

Why is it that all we can afford?

Is that all we can afford if we keep Hemsky and Horcoff?

Confusing comment.

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#64 Walter Sobchak
July 03 2013, 08:35PM
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

Why is it that all we can afford?

Is that all we can afford if we keep Hemsky and Horcoff?

Confusing comment.

Sorry bud.

I meant to say, all we can afford in terms of players who will be had at a reasonable cap hit.

I honestly think the others will be an overpay and the Oilers can't afford to have bad contracts.

I feel the best way to get players will be through trade.

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#65 Quicksilver ballet
July 03 2013, 08:38PM
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Here we are a full week later and no Gagner signing yet. MacT's probably keeping his options open for another week. If little to nothing happens this weekend, it'll be a little more urgent by this time next week i'm sure.

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#66 Walter Sobchak
July 03 2013, 08:39PM
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Lowetide wrote:

I didn't say move Gagner to the wing. MacTavish mentioned it.

Yes, but you mention it every time you talk about Gagner, moving Gagner over to the wing puts Yakupov over to LW.

Terrible idea no matter who suggested it.

Not to mention LW IS the position that needs a player to push the puck, big body skill player, or like you said puck retrieval.

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#67 madjam
July 03 2013, 08:46PM
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Depeitro worth persuing ? We seem to be getting closer to having Khabby come back another season or two .

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#69 madjam
July 03 2013, 08:49PM
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With a little cooperation Buffalo , Winnipeg and Flyers could trade with us . Narrow it down - more tunnel vision might land us something in way of an upgrade .

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#70 mlcselli
July 03 2013, 08:50PM
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Lowetide, I agree with most of the list with the exception of Gilbert. I will give him credit where it's due and that's limited to three things--he can pass, skate and doesn't miss games with injury. These look to be reasons to sign him, however, I always found him to give up on the play, too soft against opposition, giveaways far too often. There isn't any sandpaper, grit or toughness to his game. He seems to be a complacent player. When one team trades him and another chases him out of town, his credibility as a beneficial player is questionable. I'd pass on him in a heartbeat.

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#71 Quicksilver ballet
July 03 2013, 08:50PM
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Lowetide wrote:

I didn't say move Gagner to the wing. MacTavish mentioned it.

That was a loaded statement from MacTavish. When he mentioned that, it was almost like he stopped before he finished his thought. What he meant to say was, it's possible he could be moved to the Wings.

I may have gotten that wrong, but that was my first day with these new ears.

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#72 kdunbar
July 03 2013, 08:55PM
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I don't mind the idea of rick depeitrio at a minamum 2 way contract. Can always play in the AHL

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#73 DigDeepNBleedBlue
July 03 2013, 08:57PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 2m

Doug MacLean on NiteCap, "The two teams pushing hard for David Clarkson are Toronto & Edmonton." #oilers #mapleleafs #tmltalk Expand

This is good to read. Even if it never comes to fruition.

All in, Mac-T!

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#74 DigDeepNBleedBlue
July 03 2013, 08:59PM
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kdunbar wrote:

I don't mind the idea of rick depeitrio at a minamum 2 way contract. Can always play in the AHL

1yr contract as the 3rd goalie. Not a bad idea.

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#75 Racki
July 03 2013, 09:02PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Yes, but you mention it every time you talk about Gagner, moving Gagner over to the wing puts Yakupov over to LW.

Terrible idea no matter who suggested it.

Not to mention LW IS the position that needs a player to push the puck, big body skill player, or like you said puck retrieval.

This concept makes no sense to me. I don't see how Gagner playing wing moves Yakupov to left wing.

If I'm moving Gagner to wing, I put him on left wing because of his right shot.

So you'd have Gagner on left on that line, and Yakupov on right. Center would hopefully be a free agent signing of some sort (ex. Filppula, as I think a Gagner-Filppula-Yakupov line would really fly).

As far as having a big body there on LW, it would be nice, but not so sure it's a necessity, however.

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#76 WhattaMike
July 03 2013, 09:04PM
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No matter who the Oilers go and get I want the player or players that come to the team to be very hungry to win games games games.... and go for the playoffs/Stanley cup....not just be hungry for the paycheque and individual stats!!!!!!

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#77 kdunbar
July 03 2013, 09:04PM
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@DigDeepNBleedBlue

But could push for number two or one if he is healthy and as good as he can be. There is a reason he was the first overall...

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#78 DSF
July 03 2013, 09:05PM
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Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer 10m

When it is all said and done IMO the #Oilers will have minimum 7 new players on roster for start of regular season (4 FWD-2D-1G)...

Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer 2m

...The "New" players will consist of: a top 6 LW, 3rd lne C, 3 line RW, 4th line W, Top 4 left shot D, Belov...and a goaltender

MacT better get his Big Boy Pants® on.

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#80 DigDeepNBleedBlue
July 03 2013, 09:14PM
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kdunbar wrote:

But could push for number two or one if he is healthy and as good as he can be. There is a reason he was the first overall...

Agreed. I just wouldn't sign him as the number 2. But, if he earns it that's all good.

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#81 G Money
July 03 2013, 09:18PM
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Racki wrote:

This concept makes no sense to me. I don't see how Gagner playing wing moves Yakupov to left wing.

If I'm moving Gagner to wing, I put him on left wing because of his right shot.

So you'd have Gagner on left on that line, and Yakupov on right. Center would hopefully be a free agent signing of some sort (ex. Filppula, as I think a Gagner-Filppula-Yakupov line would really fly).

As far as having a big body there on LW, it would be nice, but not so sure it's a necessity, however.

This makes perfect sense, but I have read several times now from what I thought were credible sources at the time (wish I had links to pass along) that if Ganye moves to wing, he moves to the right.

If that's the case ... I would rather have Gagner in the middle, Yak in his natural RW spot, and have MacT try to find a big LW, rather than find a centre and put Gagner on the RW and Yak shoehorned into LW.

But if Gags truly can move to LW and be effective, I would think even a half decent centre with good defensive chops and faceoff skills would markedly improve that line overall compared to last year.

Especially if Yak goes Supernova(tm) next year.

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#82 kdunbar
July 03 2013, 09:22PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 2m

Doug MacLean on NiteCap, "The two teams pushing hard for David Clarkson are Toronto & Edmonton." #oilers #mapleleafs #tmltalk Expand

If the oilers do land clarkson, does ebs yak or clark move to the LW?

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#83 headmetal
July 03 2013, 09:22PM
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going off the board here but why not some old Oilers looked at as very cheap options and then toss coin at the better players. I like the Grebeshkov idea but what about Kotalik or Thoresen making a return to the NHL?! skill with Patrick and size and shot with the other Ales?!

again these are 3rd line suggestions...with a Mueller playing C (think he is a natural center), I'd prefer Boyd though (he is a guy I'd suggest tossing $$ at)

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#84 DSF
July 03 2013, 09:28PM
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headmetal wrote:

going off the board here but why not some old Oilers looked at as very cheap options and then toss coin at the better players. I like the Grebeshkov idea but what about Kotalik or Thoresen making a return to the NHL?! skill with Patrick and size and shot with the other Ales?!

again these are 3rd line suggestions...with a Mueller playing C (think he is a natural center), I'd prefer Boyd though (he is a guy I'd suggest tossing $$ at)

Radek Dvorak and Marty Reasoner are also UFA.

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#85 Walter Sobchak
July 03 2013, 09:30PM
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Lowetide wrote:

I agree that moving Yakupov to LW is a terrible idea. I'm not certain what we disagree on.

My bad Lt, I assumed you meant moving Yakupov off the wing. I think we are in agreement.

My apologies good sir.

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#86 DigDeepNBleedBlue
July 03 2013, 09:31PM
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Word is Clarkson can play either wing. So, 2nd LW seems logical. And, would slide Eberle on the other. Eberle, IMO, needs the addition of a tougher cat.

I would put Gagner on the 3rd as the RW. Not because I think he is sh*t, but because he would bring a lot of offence to that line. Gagner has a little edge as well when he plays. Could be a great fit.

Spread out the offensive love!

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#87 Walter Sobchak
July 03 2013, 09:34PM
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Racki wrote:

This concept makes no sense to me. I don't see how Gagner playing wing moves Yakupov to left wing.

If I'm moving Gagner to wing, I put him on left wing because of his right shot.

So you'd have Gagner on left on that line, and Yakupov on right. Center would hopefully be a free agent signing of some sort (ex. Filppula, as I think a Gagner-Filppula-Yakupov line would really fly).

As far as having a big body there on LW, it would be nice, but not so sure it's a necessity, however.

Mix up by me, I goofed.

I will say I do think it matters with a caveat. If the Oilers down grade skill on the LW and get a big body then no it's a bad move. If you can get a big body and maybe a little less skill then I do think it will be beneficial.

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#89 Greg The Hammer Valentine
July 03 2013, 09:36PM
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LT, with St-Louis re-signing Leopold, is Ian Cole the odd-man out? Would he be worth looking into fo a trade?

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#90 Bonvie
July 03 2013, 09:36PM
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DigDeepNBleedBlue wrote:

Apparently no... Please, further enlighten me with your great understanding of the National Hockey League.

Anyhoo.

Lines with 6 FAs:

Hall-RNH-Yakupov

MacArthur-Elias-Eberle

Paajarvi-Lapierre-Gagner

Eager-Lander-Pitlick

EX: Smyth & Brown

J.Schultz-Smid

Petry-Belov

Murray-Hunwick

EX: N.Schultz

Dubnyk Griess

All fine in dandy if McTavish was the only GM making bid for those same 30 or 40 players, but to enlighten you 29 other GMs.

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#91 Smokey
July 03 2013, 09:38PM
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Why talk about signing Filipula. Going to cost 5 mil for a second liner, who will put up less points then Hemsky. I know they are different players, but I see no point in him as an overpay for what he gives ya.

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#92 DigDeepNBleedBlue
July 03 2013, 09:42PM
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Bonvie wrote:

All fine in dandy if McTavish was the only GM making bid for those same 30 or 40 players, but to enlighten you 29 other GMs.

LOL Sorry, what? Oddly, I do feel extremely enlightened now.

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#93 Bonvie
July 03 2013, 09:46PM
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Smokey wrote:

Why talk about signing Filipula. Going to cost 5 mil for a second liner, who will put up less points then Hemsky. I know they are different players, but I see no point in him as an overpay for what he gives ya.

A very good two way player that excels at taking draws.

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#94 Smokey
July 03 2013, 09:53PM
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A very good two way player that excels at taking draws.

So keep Horcoff, VF had what 17 points to Horc's 12. He's a 3.5 mil player.

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#95 madjam
July 03 2013, 09:57PM
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Jeff Schultz should be cheap and an upgrade , are we entertaining him ? John Scott cheap for trade and toughest in the league perhaps . Local boy who keeps other team in fear of him . Probably good for seasonal protection at least , and a marked upgrade from Fistric or Brown .I'd like a 4th line like B.Sutter , C.Neil and E. Nystrom as well - good enough and reasonable enough to even be a third line to be honest .Anyone else feel any one of them would be beneficial ?

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#96 Oilcan
July 03 2013, 09:57PM
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First a guy I would be going for out of Philly would be SImmonds, he makes a little more money then he should and I don't think it fits Philly too well and I think he is exactly what the Oilers need.

Second a have a feeling Gagner is wanting too much and he is now on the market and teams looking at FA Weiss and Flippula will bid big on him if those guys sign elsewhere (the catch being the Oilers kinda need one if they ship out Gagner).

Thirdly would Toronto do a Horcoff for Grabovski trade? Horcoff only has 2 years left on his deal and they buy him out if he doesnt pan out and the Oilers could take a one year gamble on Grabovski.

Lastly I think the Oilers are going to wait on Hemsky, if they sign some guys and get close to the cap I think he gets traded for a small return. If they have cap space I think the Oilers retain 2.5 mill and trade him for a reasonable return.

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#97 Bonvie
July 03 2013, 10:00PM
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Smokey wrote:

So keep Horcoff, VF had what 17 points to Horc's 12. He's a 3.5 mil player.

I agree on your price point any time your taking on a contract of over 4 mil he better be a good top 6 option. It's all dependent what the other GMs are doing and how desperate they are. Example of those Parise and Suter contracts if a GM won the bidding war last year would they have really won anything.

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#98 Racki
July 03 2013, 10:01PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Mix up by me, I goofed.

I will say I do think it matters with a caveat. If the Oilers down grade skill on the LW and get a big body then no it's a bad move. If you can get a big body and maybe a little less skill then I do think it will be beneficial.

ahh, I see (I get you goofed up, per your other message).

Anyways, I agree too re: the size with a little less skill being a better impact than higher skill with less size.

If Gagner wasn't going to get a decent paycheque, I'd be OK with him on line 3, but that isn't going to work.

I don't see Gagner as a fit at all at center anymore though. Gagner at center to me is the equivalent of Yakupov on the left wing. Or put another way, Gagner at center is on par wiht having that small left winger will skill when we could have a big left winger with even a little less skill. If Gagner can't fit on one of the wings, I'd move him (unless we can't land the C's we need to fill this team out.. which I suppose is quite likely).

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#100 Racki
July 03 2013, 10:05PM
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G Money wrote:

This makes perfect sense, but I have read several times now from what I thought were credible sources at the time (wish I had links to pass along) that if Ganye moves to wing, he moves to the right.

If that's the case ... I would rather have Gagner in the middle, Yak in his natural RW spot, and have MacT try to find a big LW, rather than find a centre and put Gagner on the RW and Yak shoehorned into LW.

But if Gags truly can move to LW and be effective, I would think even a half decent centre with good defensive chops and faceoff skills would markedly improve that line overall compared to last year.

Especially if Yak goes Supernova(tm) next year.

Gagner has played LW (with Horcoff and Hemsky some). I want to say he's played a bit more there with other linemates (perhaps when Cogs was playing C), but I don't recall.

Anyways, I could see a Clarkson-Gagner-Yakupov line potentially working OK, but I'm very luke warm to the idea of Gagner returning as a center here (but I really like him as a player though).

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