CLOSE TO BOLD?

Lowetide
July 06 2013 05:42PM

Earlier today, the St. Louis Blues signed forward Derek Roy to a 1-year, $4M contract. The deal--and the rfa's still on the Blues list of 'things to do' might mean a solid scoring winger shakes loose from the very deep St. Louis depth chart.

The Blues as we speak have have about 8M to sign the following rfa's:

  • R Chris Stewart, their leading scorer and a coveted PF
  • D Alex Pietrangelo, a franchise type defender coming into his own

This is going to be close, and I think there might be a chance for a club (oh, say the Oilers) to jump in and help St. Louis while also improving their own lot. As we've discussed for ages, and MacT has mentioned many times, the Oilers need a complementary player to go with the fab five (Hall, Nuge, Yak City, Ebs, Gagner). The internal candidates are:

  • Magnus Paajarvi, a solid young player but thought to be shy offensively.
  • Ryan Jones, recently signed and possessing offensive ability
  • Jesse Joensu, newly signed big man who has a nice range of skills but lacks NHL success
  • Ales Hemsky, thought to be headed out of town but only if a replacement can be found.

IS THERE A MATCH?

About a week ago, leading up to the draft, there were reports of Perron's possibly being available:

  • Jeff Gordon, St. Louis Post-Disptach: The Blues also engaged in some preliminary trade chatter as other teams checked in on goaltender Jaroslav Halak and winger David Perron.

Those rumblings appear to have re-started and with the signing of Roy this could be closer now. The Fourth Period repeated the Perron rumor as the weekend started and things could heat up at any time.

Perron is a very skilled forward who can play at a very high level. In 340 NHL games, he's scored 84-114-198, which works out to 20-28-48 per 82 games. Here is the Hockey News description of the player:

As you can see, there's some health issues--Perron has had concussion problems and he spent some time in Ken Hitchcock's doghouse last season. Still, there's a talent player here.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

So far this summer, General Managers have had a terrible time making trades. However, the window of opportunity may be opening for Craig MacTavish. The St. Louis Blues may be willing to deal one of their skill forwards for a less expensive forward or a package of prospects. And this should take place in other NHL cities as teams near roster completion and find themselves up against the cap.

David Perron could have a new NHL address in the coming days, and other names may emerge. Edmonton has the trade assets, the cap room and the desire to make a bold move. 

Stay tuned!

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#51 gr8one
July 06 2013, 06:51PM
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@a lg dubl dubl

No, but I don't think it gets done with Petry, next years first defeats the purpose of the deal for Philly, they want a high end D man that has offense. Even with Jultz in it I suspect we'd have to sweeten the deal a bit more for philly to bite.

The reason I do it is because I think we could use Gagner+ in a separate deal for a first pairing D.

Mostly just thinking out loud though, it's all so far fetched.

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#52 wiggs22
July 06 2013, 06:52PM
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You have Shultz jr still. Nurse and gernat on the up and up. Would this be good asset management to offload him for a centre?

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#53 Jerod
July 06 2013, 06:54PM
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@MKE

There are some excuses why.

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2013/2/26/4032650/sean-couturier-stats-defense-flyers

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#54 MKE
July 06 2013, 06:56PM
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Jerod wrote:

There are some excuses why.

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2013/2/26/4032650/sean-couturier-stats-defense-flyers

You need a proven second line center. Not someone with potential. Trading for him and expecting him to be your second line center would be a huge mistake

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#55 Jerod
July 06 2013, 07:01PM
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@MKE

Young proven second line centers are untouchable's.

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#56 Ron Burgundy
July 06 2013, 07:19PM
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Closer to bold:

Hemsky, NSchultz, Potter and next year's first pick to Phoenix

for

Vermette and Yandle.

Phoenix is actually in cap difficulty, with only $9MM for 6 players. Salaries in this deal are a saw-off, but Phoenix gets an extra D-man and are only locking in to all of these guys for 1 year, while we take Yandle's remaining 3 years and Vermette's 2, so the Yotes also get flexibility. Ribeiro also gets some high-end offensive talent to play with as well.

I've said it before but there are the seeds of a deal here...

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#57 Racki
July 06 2013, 07:23PM
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Supernova wrote:

The optics of trading Justin Schultz this soon after he choose Edmonton over everyone else would be horrible. Edmonton can not afford to do that. He is untradeable for a while, unless he requests. Then he has the bad optics because he would spurn two organizations in a short time. In my mind he has effectively got a no trade clause. Not sure how long but at least until he has a new deal.

Also what has Schenn proven, we don't know he is even better than Gagner or even as good. Why not sign Gagner and Grabovski without waiting for another few years for one of Schenn or courterier to develop

Starting with the optics... this isn't setting a precedent here. But that said, Justin Schultz was mentioned by gr8one because we really need to give to get. If Petry got the deal done, I'd sub him in. If Klefbom could, I'd pick him. But I don't think that's the case. I would start with Klefbom+Nick Schultz, and if that did it, great... if not.. work to J.Schultz + N.Schultz.

The question about what Schenn has proven could also apply to Justin Schultz, although my gut does say that he'll be a very good offensive d-man. Not sure how good just yet. Same goes for Schenn, it's a gut thing, with a lot of it based on his high compete level (Eberle-like, in that regard).

I think Brayden Schenn has shown in junior that he brings a lot more to the table than just offense (And last year, his offense was pretty good for a 2nd year player). He's also a two-way centre. I think he'd bring what we need.

I think gr8one is just being realistic as to what it would take to land both Coburn and Schenn (my preference over Couturier, to be honest). It's a deal all about making either team better. Both give up a lot, IMHO, but both should improve by the deal.

The biggest downside to moving "Jultz" for me is that it creates a hole at RHD... might be hard to fill that.

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#58 Jack
July 06 2013, 07:23PM
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Mikhail Grabovski would put Oilers in a position to make the playoffs 2013-14

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#59 rob
July 06 2013, 07:27PM
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Ron Burgundy wrote:

Closer to bold:

Hemsky, NSchultz, Potter and next year's first pick to Phoenix

for

Vermette and Yandle.

Phoenix is actually in cap difficulty, with only $9MM for 6 players. Salaries in this deal are a saw-off, but Phoenix gets an extra D-man and are only locking in to all of these guys for 1 year, while we take Yandle's remaining 3 years and Vermette's 2, so the Yotes also get flexibility. Ribeiro also gets some high-end offensive talent to play with as well.

I've said it before but there are the seeds of a deal here...

I would do it in a heart beat,help right away,I just hope that MacT has the thought process of you

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#60 madjam
July 06 2013, 07:34PM
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A dinosaur bone and 2 bags of pucks for Coburn and Hartnell . Holmgren gets under cap but , just holding/balking at deal because he wants Philly's logo on pucks .

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#61 Stupendous Man
July 06 2013, 08:00PM
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Stewart will be next to impossible to acquire from the Blues, even with their cap/RFA situation. Look what it took Ottawa to pry Ryan out of Anaheim. Habs' GM Marc Bergevin summed it up well in this excerpt from a Globe and Mail article about the Canadiens' signing of George Parros:

"Fans were clamouring for the team to add skilled players who are big, but Bergevin said they’re the hardest to land.

“It’s really hard to get size,” he said. “Teams that have skilled guys with size don’t just give them away.

“If we had one, I’m sure I wouldn’t be shopping him around. If you think you can go in the market and get one, you may have to trade half your team and we’re not willing to do that. You have to draft well, be patient and bring those guys along.”

Polak, Jackman or Reaves seem like much more attainable targets for the Oilers.

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#62 Quicksilver ballet
July 06 2013, 08:07PM
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wiggs22 wrote:

What about kleffbom + a pick for couturier?

Now you're talking. A dp and Klefbom, or Fedun and Marincin might be just rough enough around the edges to get that pucker Holmgrens attention.

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#63 oliveoilers
July 06 2013, 08:10PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Shut the Puck up..

Seguin wasn't available either, i'm sure you said the same thing about him 2 weeks ago. You must've been rendered catatonic when Alfredsson and Lecavilier changed addresses.

Please just cut it with the, please people, there no way he's available, crap. Tis the season, for moves exactly like this.

Here, here. A very wise hockey person once told me "Glasshopper, if the great one can be traded, anybody can be traded. Anybody."

Ok, so we don't have peter pock to give a large suitcase full of untraceable bills to, but.....

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#64 Bucknuck
July 06 2013, 08:16PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Shut the Puck up..

Seguin wasn't available either, i'm sure you said the same thing about him 2 weeks ago. You must've been rendered catatonic when Alfredsson and Lecavilier changed addresses.

Please just cut it with the, please people, there no way he's available, crap. Tis the season, for moves exactly like this.

I find myself agreeing with you here, Quicksilver. Everyone is available... for a price. You just have to figure out the price.

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#65 jadeddog
July 06 2013, 08:18PM
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Jerod wrote:

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie

Also, PHI is in market for D and may be willing to move one of their young centres - B Schenn or Couturier - for the right deal. 3:42 PM - 8 Jun 2013

Interesting that they are willing to trade Coburn but need Dmen.

How the hell does Philly need dmen? They have 6 dmen making over 3 million/year.

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#66 toprightcorner
July 06 2013, 08:20PM
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Pietrangelo isn't going anywhere, franchise defenceman of that age are not let go so no sense dreaming on that one.

I don't think Perron fills a hole we have. I would look at a trade for Stewart, fills 2 holes, scoring winger and big physical winger that fights. Pietrangelo will get $6.5 mill and Stewart probably waqnts $6 mill but based on UFA signings could probably be done for $5.5 mill, basically Hemsky's cap hit.

Armstrong can't sign both of them and Perron doesn't clear enough cap space as they still need to sign another dman.

Magnus plus pick and prospect could get Stewart.

Shattenkirk could be another target.

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#67 Bucknuck
July 06 2013, 08:25PM
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You want bold?

Yakupov, Pajaarvi, our 1st round picks in 2014 and 2015 for Stewart and Pietrangelo.

We give up an awesome player, a big fast winger with tons of potential, and consolation prizes for the next two years. We get size in the top six, and a legitimate top defender.

Would you do that trade?

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#68 Racki
July 06 2013, 08:28PM
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@toprightcorner

While I don't think Pietrangelo really is going to be traded anywhere, St. Louis is the team that once traded us a franchise d-man.

Never say never.

I think the Oilers will probably have to look elsewhere though if they want another solid D... perhaps Nashville, since they seem to have a plethora. My priority still would be big forwards, in particular a 2-way center with size (which is probably the hardest asset to come by, it seems).

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#69 Mikey
July 06 2013, 08:33PM
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toprightcorner wrote:

Pietrangelo isn't going anywhere, franchise defenceman of that age are not let go so no sense dreaming on that one.

I don't think Perron fills a hole we have. I would look at a trade for Stewart, fills 2 holes, scoring winger and big physical winger that fights. Pietrangelo will get $6.5 mill and Stewart probably waqnts $6 mill but based on UFA signings could probably be done for $5.5 mill, basically Hemsky's cap hit.

Armstrong can't sign both of them and Perron doesn't clear enough cap space as they still need to sign another dman.

Magnus plus pick and prospect could get Stewart.

Shattenkirk could be another target.

Not a bad trade at all. Assuming its 2014 first and a B prospect. But Stewart plays RW. Can he play left wing?

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#70 toprightcorner
July 06 2013, 08:38PM
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Ron Burgundy wrote:

Closer to bold:

Hemsky, NSchultz, Potter and next year's first pick to Phoenix

for

Vermette and Yandle.

Phoenix is actually in cap difficulty, with only $9MM for 6 players. Salaries in this deal are a saw-off, but Phoenix gets an extra D-man and are only locking in to all of these guys for 1 year, while we take Yandle's remaining 3 years and Vermette's 2, so the Yotes also get flexibility. Ribeiro also gets some high-end offensive talent to play with as well.

I've said it before but there are the seeds of a deal here...

I like the target but probably have to sweeten the pot, which I would do. Paajarvi instead of Potter since Hemsky doesn't have a lot of value. Heck Throw in Potter too if they want him.

Vermette could be 2C and move Gagner to the wing or for size, trade Gagner for Stewart straight up and we would be cookin with peanut oil!!

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#71 Rod from Viking
July 06 2013, 08:43PM
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jadeddog wrote:

How the hell does Philly need dmen? They have 6 dmen making over 3 million/year.

Date is June 8th on the tweet, before they traded for the rights to Streit possibly?

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#72 toprightcorner
July 06 2013, 08:46PM
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Mikey wrote:

Not a bad trade at all. Assuming its 2014 first and a B prospect. But Stewart plays RW. Can he play left wing?

Yes, 2014 1st and was thinking Rajala who is too small in a sea of tiny fish.

I believe Stewart played LW in Colorado as he played with David Jones who is RW. As more of a power forward and not a score on the fly or onetimer type of scorer a change in sides probably wouldn't be too tough. Yak could also move to LW as he shoots left but he likes that onetimer from the right side.

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#73 DSF
July 06 2013, 08:53PM
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Mikey wrote:

Not a bad trade at all. Assuming its 2014 first and a B prospect. But Stewart plays RW. Can he play left wing?

Why can't Armstrong sign both of them?

STL has almost $8M in cap space with 24 players, including 15 forwards on their current roster.

If they move out Perron $3.8M and drop another forward, they will have more than $12M to sign Stewart and Pietrangelo.

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#74 toprightcorner
July 06 2013, 08:54PM
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Another target could be Brent Burns. SJ only has $215k in cap space and still need a dman and another forward and couldn't buy out Havlat cause he is injured. They play Burns as a forward and is not worth $5.75 mill as a winger. He would look great in our top 2 on the back end and he is a beast and can play in front of the net on the PP.

SJ needs another solid dman so send them N. Schultz and 2014 1st rounder or Pajaarvi and later pick.

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#75 TeddyTurnbuckle
July 06 2013, 09:02PM
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Trading Justin Shultz can't happen. It's a no brainer. No other good player being recruited by the others would sign with us if they think we are going to turn around and trade him.

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#76 BArmstrong
July 06 2013, 09:05PM
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@toprightcorner

Burns has a NTC.

I'd love to see him in Edmonton.

Wishlist

1) Backes NTC

2) Petrangelo (not likely) or

3) Burns NTC

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#77 Rama Lama
July 06 2013, 09:05PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

You want bold?

Yakupov, Pajaarvi, our 1st round picks in 2014 and 2015 for Stewart and Pietrangelo.

We give up an awesome player, a big fast winger with tons of potential, and consolation prizes for the next two years. We get size in the top six, and a legitimate top defender.

Would you do that trade?

I think you hit " bold" right in the head!.......but I think you grazed stupid too! I'm not saying that you are stupid.......just the idea.

There are many options all we need is one power forward.......there are many still available as UFA's and through trades.

Keep the faith NuckBuck.

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#78 toprightcorner
July 06 2013, 09:13PM
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DSF wrote:

Why can't Armstrong sign both of them?

STL has almost $8M in cap space with 24 players, including 15 forwards on their current roster.

If they move out Perron $3.8M and drop another forward, they will have more than $12M to sign Stewart and Pietrangelo.

What about who they get in return for Perron? Even though they could trade him for only prospects or picks most teams want to move out a bit of salary in a trade. So let's say a player at $1 mill comes back with picks/prospects.

That gives them $10.6 mill in cap space. If they "drop a forward, their only reasonable choices make $600k which gives you $11.2 mill.

Pietrangelo wants north of $7 mill but let's say they get him at $7 mill, that leaves $4.2 mill for Stewart which won't be close to getting him signed.

That's why I don't think they can sign both, plus the fact that St. Louis has never been close to a cap team, (never been over $54 mill) and unless their owners have a huge change of heart, I don't see them wanting to be maxed out before the season starts.

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#79 BArmstrong
July 06 2013, 09:17PM
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@toprightcorner

Yup - they're in a pickle.

I say we do our part and help them out. Potter + next years 1st for Shattenkirk.

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#80 DSF
July 06 2013, 09:20PM
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toprightcorner wrote:

What about who they get in return for Perron? Even though they could trade him for only prospects or picks most teams want to move out a bit of salary in a trade. So let's say a player at $1 mill comes back with picks/prospects.

That gives them $10.6 mill in cap space. If they "drop a forward, their only reasonable choices make $600k which gives you $11.2 mill.

Pietrangelo wants north of $7 mill but let's say they get him at $7 mill, that leaves $4.2 mill for Stewart which won't be close to getting him signed.

That's why I don't think they can sign both, plus the fact that St. Louis has never been close to a cap team, (never been over $54 mill) and unless their owners have a huge change of heart, I don't see them wanting to be maxed out before the season starts.

Stewart won't get more than $4.2M in any universe.

STL top paid forward is David Backes at $4.5M.

I can see them trading Perron for a young prospect (say Paajarvi) and a pick next season and the prospect would have to earn his spot on the team or play in the AHL.

In the event he plays in the NHL, another forward won't.

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#81 toprightcorner
July 06 2013, 09:21PM
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BArmstrong wrote:

Burns has a NTC.

I'd love to see him in Edmonton.

Wishlist

1) Backes NTC

2) Petrangelo (not likely) or

3) Burns NTC

Guess it depends if Burns wants to be a second line winger or a #1 defenceman. I'm not sure how he felt about playing forward, but that could give him reason to consider options??? One can hope!

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#82 DSF
July 06 2013, 09:22PM
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BArmstrong wrote:

Yup - they're in a pickle.

I say we do our part and help them out. Potter + next years 1st for Shattenkirk.

Shattenkirk was just re-signed by the Blues for $4.25M until 2017.

He's not going anywhere without a massive overpayment.

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#83 madjam
July 06 2013, 09:37PM
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Perron is an excellent target and could be top 2 centerman leaving Gagner to third and Boyes to fourth , making center spot full . He's a very exciting player . You like Hemsky dangling , wait to see Perron -he'll excite you .

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#84 Stack Pad Save
July 06 2013, 09:49PM
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Blues gave Roy 4 million. Now they have even less cap space. Can you say offer sheet for Pieterangelo. I smell a big fat offer sheet heading his way from a team with a lot of cap space right now... I think the Oilers have lots and lots of cap space.

Perron is a winger ... I would prefer Stewart, less health issues.

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#85 Bucknuck
July 06 2013, 09:55PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I think you hit " bold" right in the head!.......but I think you grazed stupid too! I'm not saying that you are stupid.......just the idea.

There are many options all we need is one power forward.......there are many still available as UFA's and through trades.

Keep the faith NuckBuck.

yep... it definitely grazes stupid... but if you want to be bold, usually that means overpayment, which usually borders on stupid.

Bold: Yes

Overpay: yes

Does it address team need: yes

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#86 Supernova
July 06 2013, 10:06PM
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Racki wrote:

Starting with the optics... this isn't setting a precedent here. But that said, Justin Schultz was mentioned by gr8one because we really need to give to get. If Petry got the deal done, I'd sub him in. If Klefbom could, I'd pick him. But I don't think that's the case. I would start with Klefbom+Nick Schultz, and if that did it, great... if not.. work to J.Schultz + N.Schultz.

The question about what Schenn has proven could also apply to Justin Schultz, although my gut does say that he'll be a very good offensive d-man. Not sure how good just yet. Same goes for Schenn, it's a gut thing, with a lot of it based on his high compete level (Eberle-like, in that regard).

I think Brayden Schenn has shown in junior that he brings a lot more to the table than just offense (And last year, his offense was pretty good for a 2nd year player). He's also a two-way centre. I think he'd bring what we need.

I think gr8one is just being realistic as to what it would take to land both Coburn and Schenn (my preference over Couturier, to be honest). It's a deal all about making either team better. Both give up a lot, IMHO, but both should improve by the deal.

The biggest downside to moving "Jultz" for me is that it creates a hole at RHD... might be hard to fill that.

I understand what gr8one was getting at, but I don't think that is what the oilers need. They don't need young developing Centers, unless they draft them themselves. If they are going to pay a premium for someone it needs to be someone in their prime.

Oilers are already a non attractive market, by trading their most significant would be suicidal to their reputation.

Oilers might be able to become a attractive market once they have made the playoffs and still have higher to go. Some teams don't buy out players because they realize what it would look like to other players. Pittsburgh didn't buy out Fleury this year primarily for this reason, they also supported Martin when he had a rough year last year, and he was probably their most consistent all around defenceman this year.

Oilers have no choice but to establish their off ice reputation as anything but first class, becoming the Detroits or Pittsburghs.

As much as Philly is an attractive trading partner, unless we are taking salary from them and giving prospects it isn't going to happen. I would love to get Hartnell, Simmonds and Coburn, but don't know if we have the right assets to get them. ( I am not meaning all of them).

Heck I think Philly would deal kimmo timmenom (*sp) to someone on the right type of trade, anything is possible with them.

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#87 DSF
July 06 2013, 10:09PM
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Stack Pad Save wrote:

Blues gave Roy 4 million. Now they have even less cap space. Can you say offer sheet for Pieterangelo. I smell a big fat offer sheet heading his way from a team with a lot of cap space right now... I think the Oilers have lots and lots of cap space.

Perron is a winger ... I would prefer Stewart, less health issues.

Pietrangelo's agent said on Friday he won't sign an offer sheet:

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/stl130706.html

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#88 Peter
July 06 2013, 10:10PM
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Capgeek has Brad Hunt as signing a 2 year entry level contract with the Oil. Another D for the farm it seems.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/2535

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#89 oilcountry83
July 06 2013, 10:10PM
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I think perron would fit nicely with gags could be a good duo. What do you think about wheeler in Winnipeg what would it cost? Would they deal him

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#90 DSF
July 06 2013, 10:11PM
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Peter wrote:

Capgeek has Brad Hunt as signing a 2 year entry level contract with the Oil. Another D for the farm it seems.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/2535

5'9" 185

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#91 Peter
July 06 2013, 10:24PM
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@DSF

Ya bud, hence why I said the farm.

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#92 Supernova
July 06 2013, 10:32PM
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DSF wrote:

Pietrangelo's agent said on Friday he won't sign an offer sheet:

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/stl130706.html

Money talks bud!

Especially front loaded signing bonus types.

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#93 Jeffff
July 06 2013, 10:48PM
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madjam wrote:

Perron is an excellent target and could be top 2 centerman leaving Gagner to third and Boyes to fourth , making center spot full . He's a very exciting player . You like Hemsky dangling , wait to see Perron -he'll excite you .

You really need to read up on hockey and actually watch hockey, Perron is a winger he does not play center.

Sad.

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#94 DSF
July 06 2013, 10:49PM
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Supernova wrote:

Money talks bud!

Especially front loaded signing bonus types.

Want to give up the next 4 1st round picks?

That's what it would take and a team that does that better be ready to win NOW.

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July 06 2013, 10:51PM
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Jeffff wrote:

You really need to read up on hockey and actually watch hockey, Perron is a winger he does not play center.

Sad.

Perron is actually a natural centre who was shifted to the wing because Backes was taking #1C duties and Berglund #2.

He would be a great fit as a #2 C/LW IMO.

A much better option than Paajarvi.

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#96 jeffff
July 06 2013, 10:55PM
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@DSF

He is not a center in the NHL. A top 2nd line center really c'mon DSF

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July 06 2013, 11:05PM
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jeffff wrote:

He is not a center in the NHL. A top 2nd line center really c'mon DSF

I would bring him in as a #2LW who can also play centre if required.

Gagner isn't a top 2nd line centre either.

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@DSF

I can agree with that . Gagner isn't a top 2nd line center.

But Perron never has played center in the NHL.

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July 06 2013, 11:14PM
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Jeffff wrote:

I can agree with that . Gagner isn't a top 2nd line center.

But Perron never has played center in the NHL.

No he hasn't but, as a centre in his final year of junior, he scored 39G and 83PTS and was +37.

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toprightcorner wrote:

Not a chance, you are dreaming and way overvaluing our players and not filling anything with trade partners.

STL won't save cap space and gets an inferior player and a failed prospect. Ridiculous offer

PHI wants to upgrade defence not down grade, Colburn way better than Petry and you really think Maracin would get you B.Schenn? Delusional!

At least make reasonable trade suggestions, you probably think Omark could get you a 2C too?

so, who would you trade to get those 3 players then?

Stewart is probably looking for close if not a smidge more than what Hemsky makes right now, and a longer term too than the 1 yr on Hemmers contract.

Petry from all accounts is trending up, yes he had a sub par year but who didn't in the shorter season, plus Petry makes way less than Coburn, that said Petry is a UFA after this season if Im not mistaken, but IMO I don't think he'll command the 4.5 Coburn makes for the next 3 years.

Give your head a shake man we all know Omark could get you Malkin.... ;)

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