The Edmonton Oilers: Today & Tomorrow

Jonathan Willis
July 08 2013 11:31AM

 

Craig MacTavish has been busy in free agency, substantially altering the makeup of his team. It's a sign of where he started from that there's still substantial work to do to improve the Oilers' roster.

Forward Depth Chart

The chart above is my interpretation of the current Oilers' North American roster. I have included only players with an NHL component to their deal, and omitted players expected to be overseas. How does it look?

One thing that comes to mind is that there should be no shortage of competition for depth roles, something the team lacked a year ago. Anton Lander is pencilled in as fourth line centre, but players like Andrew Miller, Mark Arcobello and Will Acton will all be in the mix. Ryan Hamilton, Toni Rajala and Ben Eager should all also compete for playing time as things currently stand. Depth, particularly on the wings, is better than it was a year ago.

Additionally, in Boyd Gordon, Craig MacTavish located the best UFA replacement available for Shawn Horcoff.

But it isn't good enough. The top line is fine - it was fine last year, and it's fine now. Magnus Paajarvi is a stretch as a second-line winger at this point in his career, particularly on a line featuring Nail Yakupov, whose overall game is still rounding into NHL form. Jesse Joensuu, an occasional New York Islander in the past, is a long way from a sure thing on the third line. There's likely still an Ales Hemsky trade coming, at which point the team needs someone to fill his spot - Ryan Jones can in a pinch, but asking Jones to play that role for 82 games is asking for trouble. Anton Lander's riding an end-of-season hot streak but likely should start 2013-14 in the minors.

Ideally, the team should add three more bodies to the mix:

Second-line left wing - a guy who in a perfect world adds size, aggressiveness, and a two-way game is going to be difficult to find and almost certainly needs to come via trade. My guess is that the Oilers can probably land a player with two out of three for not too much - as examples, R.J. Umberger would add a responsible two-way presence and a 6'2", 220 pound frame while a winger like Ryan Malone (if willing to accept a trade West) would bring all three but comes with a significant injury tag. Finding a perfect fit will be very hard to do, especially without paying a fortune.

Third-line right wing shouldn't be too hard to acquire - he's likely the player that comes back when Hemsky gets shipped out of town. This is another position that probably needs to be filled via trade, as the UFA crop is thin on players who can kill penalties and handle a ton of defensive responsibility in this role.

Fourth-line centre is a spot the team should be able to fill. Players like David Steckel, Tim Brent, and Manny Malhotra are still unsigned, and would significantly shore up the Oilers depth, allowing them to continue developing Lander in the AHL for the beginning of 2013-14.

Defensive Depth Chart

As before, my interpretation of where the Oilers are, this time on the blue line and in net. Players with an asterisk are left-shooting defencement slotted in at the right-hand side for the purposes of this exercise.

Goaltending is relatively solid. Dubnyk is a respectable number one, LaBarbera a cheap and effective backup, and Bachman a number three with relatively extensive NHL experience. LaBarbera is seen as a pure backup in some quarters, but that likely isn't totally fair - Ilya Bryzgalov and Mike Smith have been fairly difficult to supplant in recent years, and LaBarbera's NHL numbers over that span indicate a guy who could play more without hurting his team. He is a real option should Dubnyk struggle or get hurt.

Defensively, depth is good, particularly on the left side. A quick note about Lee Moffie - he isn't signed, but given that the Oilers traded for him it's a reasonable expectation that he will be. There are eight defenders on my NHL roster at the moment, but I fully expect Edmonton to go with fourteen forwards and seven defenders - it's a reasonable bet that the acquisition of Philip Larsen makes Corey Potter the odd man out. The AHL team should be bursting at the seams with recall options - Fedun (and possibly Potter, should he clear waivers and be assigned to Oklahoma) on the right side, Klefbom and Marincin for sure on the left. The problem is the top pairing: Petry and Smid struggled in the role last season. That means the Oilers have one slot to fill.

I have subtracted Nick Schultz from this equation, but Ladislav Smid is a player with significant trade value and could be out instead if the Oilers add a top-pairing player. Also worth noting: that player does not necessarily need to be a left-side defenceman - I have it set up that way because the pairing of Ference (or Nick Schultz) and Philip Larsen is one I would be more comfortable with than an Anton Belov/Justin Schultz pairing.

My guess is that this is why the Oilers were looking at Braydon Coburn. If they believe that Coburn is a similar player to Smid in many areas (especially as a physical presence in front of the net) but an upgrade in his ability to move the puck, than a Coburn/Petry top pairing makes some sense. That would leave Smid (or Andrew Ference) on a pairing with Justin Schultz, and Andrew Ference (or Nick Schultz) on third pairing duty with Philip Larsen. It still wouldn't be an ideal defence core because of the lack of a clear number one defenceman, but as a by-committee approach it really isn't bad.

The big, physical winger position is the one that has received most of the attention; the need for a new top-pairing defender might be the team's greatest actual weakness, as currently constructed.

Recently around the Nation Network

There is still much to do in Edmonton, but it appears things are done in Calgary:

It appears the Flames are finished window shopping for UFA's. Word is the club hasn't even bothered contacting Mason Raymond and probably the only other worthwhile player on the market given Calgary's needs is Mikhail Grabovski. Naturally, there hasn't been even a whisper that Calgary has any interest at all. So, absent any left field trades, what you see is likely what you get when it comes to the roster.

Click the link to read more, or alternately, feel free check out some of my other pieces here:

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Jonathan Willis is Managing Editor of the Nation Network. He also currently writes for the Edmonton Journal's Cult of Hockey, Grantland, and Hockey Prospectus. His work has appeared at theScore, ESPN and Puck Daddy. He was previously founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue. Contact him at jonathan (dot) willis (at) live (dot) ca.
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#51 WhattaMike
July 08 2013, 12:28PM
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As always JW, I like reading your stuff... That being said, I am with the idea of there being four such players needed...a top LW, a top 2nd line centre, a 4th line center and a tough/enforcer winger also for the 4th line...

The Oilers now have 21 guys signed and about $11 plus mil cap space so deals can be made and still there would be reasonable cap-space left. Of course this type cap-space now is while Hemsky is here then N. Schultz and Smid too...

Unless there is a great top defenceman deal in the works, I believe the Oilers are set in the 7 to 8 guys they got...even more so if Klefbom wows everyone at both camps (Sept Prospect Tournament/Training Camp.

The Oilers have many assets now to package for deals...such as future draft picks, Gagner (no good term contract worked out), MPS, Hemsky, Omark, Rajala, Hartikainen, Pitlick, Lander, Martindale, Musil, Gernat, Davidson,etc.

I agree with you JW that on defence it will be done by committee.

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#52 A-Mc
July 08 2013, 12:29PM
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PandaBearJelly wrote:

my question is how do we fill 3 spots (two wings and a d) throught trade without creating more holes that we cant fill?

If you're trading with a team that is bouncing off the salary cap, they dont necessarily want a player/salary back in return. In this instance, picks are your currency.

If you can snag 1 guy with picks + maybe a prospect that isnt in the NHL yet. And you snag a 4th line Center via UFA market (there are lots of options available), then the only real trade you need to make is for the 2nd line addition, and you likely have 2 players to send the other way instead of 1.

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#53 Quicksilver ballet
July 08 2013, 12:29PM
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Welcome back Ben Eager.

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#54 2004Z06
July 08 2013, 12:33PM
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I think the biggest issue is to get a big, puck posession #2 C that can win draws and go to the net. Hemsky can and will be traded, Gagner moves out to the wing. Burmistrov just signed in the KHL and Grabovski wouldn't be a bad option for 3-4 years at 3.5 mil. He isnt the biggest, but he plays hard, is fast and heavy on the forecheck.

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#55 Smokey
July 08 2013, 12:36PM
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Will wrote:

This team is better than last year's team simply by virtue of Whitney and Belangier no longer being on it. Just as we got better with the simple subtraction of Habby as our number one, so to will we get better with the simple subtraction of those two players.

Belanger has been brutal overall. However the first part of the year when when the team won and he played less, he was good in the faceoffs and good at penalty killing. The other half of the season he was injured. So for me when calculating is this team better by subtraction of Whitney and Belanger, Whitney I agree on, Belanger was hardly here last year and wasn`t hurting us when he wasn`t playing.

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#56 Taylor Gang
July 08 2013, 12:44PM
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PandaBearJelly wrote:

my question is how do we fill 3 spots (two wings and a d) throught trade without creating more holes that we cant fill?

Remember the Gaborik and Nash deals? Remember how the return was a bundle of inferior yet useful second and third line players?

My point is: maybe too many of the Oilers eggs are in not enough baskets. Maybe one of the kids should be traded to gain more balance in the lineup. That, my friend, that is a bold move.

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#57 Quicksilver ballet
July 08 2013, 12:56PM
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Every bottom feeder team should be in running for the Raymonds,Grobovskis etc.

What more could you ask for in a player that costs you no assets to aquire. There's certainly no use for Brad Boyes on this squad, since we're already so stacked at center.

Carry on doing nothing Craig.

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#58 YEGFan
July 08 2013, 01:01PM
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I'd offer Petry, Marincin, 2014 1st Round for Pietrangelo.

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#59 WhattaMike
July 08 2013, 01:07PM
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I still believe the Oilers are aggressively looking to trade for a top LW type healthy guy but he is like a Horton. I think too that the Oilers do want a Braydon Schenn or Couturier type 2nd line future centre other than Gagner and this is because Gagner still has lots to improve on as a 2nd line guy and because the ter/salary contract deal is being dragged out... (he wants too much money????)

I would also believe that the Oilers want a enforcer tough centre like Konopka or a Maxime Talbot type guy for the 4th line...although I think Ryan Hamilton or Will Acton are gonna get trials there too before Lander gets the job. Hey...Zack Smith may be looked at still with a trade being done.

A tough enforcer 4th line winger guy will likely be the easiest deal to find this summer out of the holes needed to still be filled.

I can't see both Smid or N. Schultz both being here come Fall...especially cause Klefbom may be very well ready and or much better than people have thought...just as J. Brodin was in Minny. He has wowed a lot of people at Development Camp already with his size, skating, defensive and puck possession skills.

Finally, the biggest advantage the Oilers have now is that Eakins is a hard driving and strong systematic/audible calling coach for all the players...unlike Quinn, Renney, and Krueger. The other three coaches had/used too open flawed and questionable systems that were picked off by opposing teams and/or they favored too many wrong players above others.

The last thing is to not discount a possible best year from Eager (4th line winger for now)who should have top motivation for of the last yr of his contract and from of that he played excellent in OKC playoff run.

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#60 Oilfan
July 08 2013, 01:10PM
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This is why it's sometimes hilarious to see how much effort some will put into into trying to convince another of their opinions.

One commenter says Boyd Gordon is better than Gagner and should be the 2LC while another mentions only Gagner's name (assuming he be the primary piece) to be included in a package to obtain a No. 1 D.

That's quite a gap to bridge.

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#61 toprightcorner
July 08 2013, 01:11PM
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Matt wrote:

If the Oilers started the season today, am I right in thinking that the only two players in the entire forward group who aren't Oilers-drafted-and-developed are Boyd Gordon and Mike Brown? Is that totally nuts? I can't think of any other team that has even *close* to that in home-grown talent.

That's because no other team has had 3 straight #1 picks and a #6. A total of seven first round picks in our starting forward group.

Petry is our only starting dman the Oil have drafted.

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#62 OilersBrass
July 08 2013, 01:13PM
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WhattaMike wrote:

I still believe the Oilers are aggressively looking to trade for a top LW type healthy guy but he is like a Horton. I think too that the Oilers do want a Braydon Schenn or Couturier type 2nd line future centre other than Gagner and this is because Gagner still has lots to improve on as a 2nd line guy and because the ter/salary contract deal is being dragged out... (he wants too much money????)

I would also believe that the Oilers want a enforcer tough centre like Konopka or a Maxime Talbot type guy for the 4th line...although I think Ryan Hamilton or Will Acton are gonna get trials there too before Lander gets the job. Hey...Zack Smith may be looked at still with a trade being done.

A tough enforcer 4th line winger guy will likely be the easiest deal to find this summer out of the holes needed to still be filled.

I can't see both Smid or N. Schultz both being here come Fall...especially cause Klefbom may be very well ready and or much better than people have thought...just as J. Brodin was in Minny. He has wowed a lot of people at Development Camp already with his size, skating, defensive and puck possession skills.

Finally, the biggest advantage the Oilers have now is that Eakins is a hard driving and strong systematic/audible calling coach for all the players...unlike Quinn, Renney, and Krueger. The other three coaches had/used too open flawed and questionable systems that were picked off by opposing teams and/or they favored too many wrong players above others.

The last thing is to not discount a possible best year from Eager (4th line winger for now)who should have top motivation for of the last yr of his contract and from of that he played excellent in OKC playoff run.

There is no way they trade Smid, defenseman like him are hard to find.

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#63 Taylor Gang
July 08 2013, 01:17PM
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Supernova wrote:

disagree.

no way St.Louis does this need much more than that

SMH... Clearly your sarcasm senses weren't tingling

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#64 Taylor Gang
July 08 2013, 01:19PM
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Oilfan wrote:

This is why it's sometimes hilarious to see how much effort some will put into into trying to convince another of their opinions.

One commenter says Boyd Gordon is better than Gagner and should be the 2LC while another mentions only Gagner's name (assuming he be the primary piece) to be included in a package to obtain a No. 1 D.

That's quite a gap to bridge.

If we're talking about Pietrangelo, then Gagner, Marincin, Petry and a draft pick?

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#65 westcoastoil
July 08 2013, 01:22PM
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K_Mart wrote:

I definitely have Belov ahead of Larsen

me too - I don't understand why JW, LT, etc. keep putting Larsen ahead of Belov. I question whether he's better than Potter frankly. He's numbers last year suggest he was in way over his head and the weakest link on Dallas' D.

He seems like a young guy who could/should start in in OKC. Play him with Klefbom on the first pairing so he gets tons of minutes, and let Potter fill the 7D role. Potter is used to moving in and out of the line up.

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#66 Mitch
July 08 2013, 01:24PM
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JW, since you mentioned RJ Umberger as a possible trade target, what would you think of Hemsky + N. Schultz + 2014 2nd rounder (or prospect) for Umberger + Nikitin? I know it might sound like kind of a homer trade proposal, but it gives CBJ more scoring in their top six and gives EDM a much-needed big two-way guy for their second line.

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#67 Taylor Gang
July 08 2013, 01:25PM
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So uhm... Does anyone actually know how good Belov is supposed to be?

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#68 Quicksilver ballet
July 08 2013, 01:28PM
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OilersBrass wrote:

There is no way they trade Smid, defenseman like him are hard to find.

Let me fix that for you OB....There's a good reason to trade Smid, defenseman like him are easy to find.

The Flyers are currently looking for dmen, yet they're looking to unload Braydon Coburn. What should that say about this player, let alone the fact that he's a better dman than the Oilers Smid. I'd even take Mezsaros over Lady.(no pun intended)

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#69 Rama Lama
July 08 2013, 01:29PM
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Good overview on a needs assessment........can't help but wonder on the back end who will play the nasty " in your face" role.

The combinations by any measure show a weakness on the physical play and after a few games our small defenseman will start to wear down. I know that much has been written on needing a big body in the top six role ( Brad Boyes is still available) but I think we need a big mean defenseman more!

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#70 OilersBrass
July 08 2013, 01:30PM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

So uhm... Does anyone actually know how good Belov is supposed to be?

He looked pretty dran good during the world tourney this summer. I have Belov at the 4 or 5 spot for defenseman on the Oil roster.

I don't know why so many people are bashing him on here. It has become pretty clear after this past week that some of the D on the roster are definitely going to be traded.

I see Ference, Smid, Baby Shultz, and Belov being the only safe ones. Petry to maybe, but only because they've invested a lot of time into him.

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#71 fig pucker
July 08 2013, 01:32PM
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Smokey wrote:

What do you offer-sheet him to a 7 year x 9 million dollar contract. St. Louis might even match that. Offer sheets are stupid, they never work, and karma will bite you in the ars, cause someone will drive the price on RNH or Yak. Big N O.

And St. Louis have players and good contracts that other teams would want. I expect they will trade a Oshie, or Sobotka, or Berglund and retain Stewart and Pieterangelo.

yes i would give him a big offer sheet. he's a legitimate number one d man. offer sheets do work, dustin penner, while granted he and peiterangelo are not even close in value, st.louis may decide to walk and take the picks, if they match the offer they will be forced to trade a few significant pieces to stay under the cap, shake the tree see what falls out. in terms of blow back if they offer sheet one of our players we'll deal with it then, caps going up anyhow (new tv deal in canada coming) timid thinkers never make bold moves.

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#72 OilersBrass
July 08 2013, 01:37PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Let me fix that for you OB....There's a good reason to trade Smid, defenseman like him are easy to find.

The Flyers are currently looking for dmen, yet they're looking to unload Braydon Coburn. What should that say about this player, let alone the fact that he's a better dman than the Oilers Smid. I'd even take Mezsaros over Lady.(no pun intended)

6'3" 230 pound defenseman who constantly block shots in any way possible, and bring great energy into the dressing room are easy to find?

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#73 Taylor Gang
July 08 2013, 01:39PM
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fig pucker wrote:

yes i would give him a big offer sheet. he's a legitimate number one d man. offer sheets do work, dustin penner, while granted he and peiterangelo are not even close in value, st.louis may decide to walk and take the picks, if they match the offer they will be forced to trade a few significant pieces to stay under the cap, shake the tree see what falls out. in terms of blow back if they offer sheet one of our players we'll deal with it then, caps going up anyhow (new tv deal in canada coming) timid thinkers never make bold moves.

If I'm not mistaken Penner is the only offer in history that hasn't been matched before.

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#74 Lochenzo
July 08 2013, 01:39PM
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How about Brendan Morrow to fill in some of that bottom 6 winger depth, assuming Hemsky gets traded to fill another position. Long in the tooth, but his regular season was still productive last year with 25 points. Bombed in the playoffs tho.

Still, he's a bigger bodied guy and brings experience and leadership. If you ask him to stand in front of the net on the PP, he will.

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#76 Taylor Gang
July 08 2013, 01:47PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Have to wonder by now if the Sabres wished they hadn't matched the Oilers offer sheet on Vanek. Only thing it managed to do was insured that he was overpaid by 2 1/2 million per season. Look at where those lotto selections would've been, in lieu of Vanek. Tomas would've been another Penner, here by himself with the weight on the hockey club on his shoulders.

Hard to believe a kid just barely at the end of his ELC, is seen by some here as a legitimate No.1 blueliner already. He may become one, but he isn't a league wide unanimous one yet like Weber is. How many Norris' has he won so far?

Do you have to be in the running for an art ross or hart memorial in order to be considered a first line forward as well? Do you have to be a vezina candidate to be a #1 goalie?

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#77 Smokey
July 08 2013, 01:49PM
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@Taylor Gang

What about Chris Gratton, Scott Stevens.

Sometimes it works the other way, did not Vancouver have a couple value years when Kesler was offer sheeted by Philly.

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#78 Quicksilver ballet
July 08 2013, 01:52PM
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OilersBrass wrote:

6'3" 230 pound defenseman who constantly block shots in any way possible, and bring great energy into the dressing room are easy to find?

Ask yourself this. What can Ladislav Smid do, that Theo Peckham wasn't every bit as capable of doing?

Was Smid a better fighter, skater, shoot blocker or better cheerleader for this club? Edmonton just threw him to the side of the road one week ago.

Like Smid has never been seen eating a cheeseburger before...i'm sure Smid checks in ever fall with a 5+% body fat count as well.

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#79 fig pucker
July 08 2013, 01:55PM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

If I'm not mistaken Penner is the only offer in history that hasn't been matched before.

how many offer sheets have ever been made? i'm guessing that only penner's working is still a reasonable rate of success.

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#80 Walter Sobchak
July 08 2013, 01:56PM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

Do you have to be in the running for an art ross or hart memorial in order to be considered a first line forward as well? Do you have to be a vezina candidate to be a #1 goalie?

Doesn't hurt.

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#81 madjam
July 08 2013, 01:57PM
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Grabovski might have been an option if he did not go public and condem his coach .Doubt Oilers and many others would find that appealing , and considering those type of episodes we have witnessed here .

Willis : Considering your list of personnel no matter which way you care to use them - do you honestly believe that lineup can finish above any of the top four in our new division ? On paper , to me and I suspect many others , it still looks like we might struggle just to remain above Calgary . We are unfortuneately in a very tough division with top 4 being good to begin with . Right now I do not seeing us making enough headway to overtake them at this point ,all things considered .

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#82 Quicksilver ballet
July 08 2013, 02:04PM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

Do you have to be in the running for an art ross or hart memorial in order to be considered a first line forward as well? Do you have to be a vezina candidate to be a #1 goalie?

Lets see now. 90 forwards eligible to win the Art ross, it certainly would allow you membership to that club. Only one can win from that list of 90 eligible combatants.

Norris trophy has 60 participants in that race every year.

Now your goalies. 30 possible candidates every season. Someone has to win the bloody thing.

See the math/pattern? 180 players, only 3 winners. Franky is the best of the bunch in St.Louis but being the No.1 there, and a No.1 league wide, is two different things. Can we give him two more yrs before we crown him?

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#83 san
July 08 2013, 02:05PM
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Why do the best players want to play in the US? As a true fan of the game, I need to know. The league loses credit with me when Teams like Tampa and San Jose get all the best free agents and former dynasties like Montreal and Edmonton only attract career third and forth line role players. How does Tampa win a cup and then pick no 1 in the draft within two years? no#one forward, over the height of six two has been drafted or willingly signed to a Canadian team for well over a decade. Considering how much Canadian teams suck this is a shocking miracle but probably a conspiracy of finance and American nastiness. The executives know that even unhappy, bored Canadians will still watch stupid television commercials to see their sad teams. What a clever idea! destroy the game that defines Canada and make sure, by whatever means, that the most talented players' lives are waisted by using there talents to market the game to those currently uninterested south of the border. Those boring twins in Vancouver? boring. As an Edmonton fan, I feel sorry for Vancouver fans. I fall asleep whenever they get the puck against Edmonton. Then there is Danny H. Didn't want to sign in Edmonton. What kind of waist of skin wouldn't want to play hockey in the house that the great one and Messier built? No honor among over payed babies. Stay down there with the swamp people Danny because that is where you belong.

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#84 Smokey
July 08 2013, 02:06PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Blocking shots doesn't mean your an effective defemsmen, it may mean he cant get the puck out of his own end.

care to wager which one it is?

I also heard Hordichuck is an amazing teammate, care to bring him back too?

Being a league leader in shot blocks is a misleading stat and can be taking two ways. A better evaluation would probably be shot blocks 5x5 and PK`ing.

Peckham will probably be a value signing in Nashville or Winnipeg or the Island for 600000 cheezeburgers.

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#85 OilersBrass
July 08 2013, 02:07PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Blocking shots doesn't mean your an effective defemsmen, it may mean he cant get the puck out of his own end.

care to wager which one it is?

I also heard Hordichuck is an amazing teammate, care to bring him back too?

Haha, no I guess blocking shots doesn't make you an effective defemsmen..... Whatever a defemsman is?

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#86 Jason
July 08 2013, 02:07PM
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JW... you're bang on with identifying the needs of this club. Your needs analysis and depth chart mirror mine almost exactly.

I think the Oilers still can solve the 4C and 3W position through free agency. Two guys I'd look at are Mason Raymond and Scott Gomez.

As for 2LW and 1D...I think we're looking at trades to find those guys, perhaps with Hemsky, N.Schultz, Gagner, prospects and picks as pieces going the other way.

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#87 OilersBrass
July 08 2013, 02:08PM
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san wrote:

Why do the best players want to play in the US? As a true fan of the game, I need to know. The league loses credit with me when Teams like Tampa and San Jose get all the best free agents and former dynasties like Montreal and Edmonton only attract career third and forth line role players. How does Tampa win a cup and then pick no 1 in the draft within two years? no#one forward, over the height of six two has been drafted or willingly signed to a Canadian team for well over a decade. Considering how much Canadian teams suck this is a shocking miracle but probably a conspiracy of finance and American nastiness. The executives know that even unhappy, bored Canadians will still watch stupid television commercials to see their sad teams. What a clever idea! destroy the game that defines Canada and make sure, by whatever means, that the most talented players' lives are waisted by using there talents to market the game to those currently uninterested south of the border. Those boring twins in Vancouver? boring. As an Edmonton fan, I feel sorry for Vancouver fans. I fall asleep whenever they get the puck against Edmonton. Then there is Danny H. Didn't want to sign in Edmonton. What kind of waist of skin wouldn't want to play hockey in the house that the great one and Messier built? No honor among over payed babies. Stay down there with the swamp people Danny because that is where you belong.

Hey! D Heatley is an all star.

http://youtu.be/1rcXI1fHZhc

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#88 Lochenzo
July 08 2013, 02:18PM
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I know Don Cherry would love it if the Oil added Kyle Wellwood as a depth centre.

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#89 Walter Sobchak
July 08 2013, 02:18PM
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OilersBrass wrote:

Haha, no I guess blocking shots doesn't make you an effective defemsmen..... Whatever a defemsman is?

Sorry, I-phone mishap.

D-Man....No, shot blocking in your own end on almost every other shift doesn't make you an effective D-man, it makes you ineffective at making a outlet pass.

But hey, there's nothing like 30,30,29,24th and most likely 24th again.

No need to upgrade.

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#90 fig pucker
July 08 2013, 02:20PM
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alright someone answer me this, how do you see the oilers getting a number one d man? free agency? top free agents don't want to come here (see last friday) even if a number one d man was available what would it cost?, trade? if nashville wanted to trade weber what would they want? hall + eberle +++? then could you get a number one d man to waive his no trade clause to come here? draft one? easier said than done plus by the time he's at his best the ship will have sailed on our young forwards. the way i see it, while it's a long shot an offer sheet on peiterangelo may be our best shot..

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#91 Samwellwood
July 08 2013, 02:46PM
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Lochenzo wrote:

I know Don Cherry would love it if the Oil added Kyle Wellwood as a depth centre.

I`d be fine with Sam Wellwood if we were 3 lines deep, but we got 4 holes at forward this season.

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#92 WhattaMike
July 08 2013, 02:49PM
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Oh yeah, Smid...as for being traded is much younger than N. Schultz too which then places him a but higher/more valuable as an asset...

I do state that I think N. Schultz should go before Smid but then again its what the other team wants back in a package deal, not just what edmonton wants to give...

Other than that I think as well that if...if Belov plays, he is better than N. Schulzt for offence passing and skating too, as also being much younger. he has good size.

My pairings if right now - and if N. schultz is traded...would be as follows (by Committee):

Petry - Ference J. Schultz - Smid, Belov - Klefbom (if he is Wowsers on defence since training camp into the 1st 9 games).

Potter as the extra.

If Coburn was to come here, by trade somehow, then he slots in 2nd pairing with J. Schultz. Smid would go with Belov and Klefbom goes down to start on the Barons.

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#93 Smokey
July 08 2013, 02:51PM
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I`d rather have Andropov then Wellwood. Might as well be big and soft rather then small and soft. Having a 3rd rooskie for Yak would be a good thing.

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#94 Lochenzo
July 08 2013, 03:13PM
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It'd be nice to add a bigger body at centre, but if he were a good bigger bodied centre, every team in the league would be after him, pushing the price way up. I'm looking in the bargain bin. Add a centre that can influence puck possession numbers by being good at the little things. Win faceoffs, limit turnovers, get pucks out of the zone.

If the Oilers are going to be a puck possession team, they have to be better on defense and at centre. Chicago did that well enough to beat a bigger team in Boston that's built to win battles on the boards.

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#97 Dman09
July 08 2013, 03:47PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

I have Belov on the NHL roster in all scenarios above.

He's consistently listed as the 4th left Dman which is basically being in the press box or with his contract, which I believe is an ECL, means he would got to the AHL.

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#98 OilersBrass
July 08 2013, 03:47PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

I can play mathlete too Ricki...

How does 7 yrs as an Oiler, and zero playoff appearances rate on your chart there. Is there a statistical category for that?

It took a great deal of effort, but I created a pie chart for his time spent in the playoffs during his time here, here it is...

- O -, I know it's a little small, but you get my point? The white indicates non playoff years and the red indicates the times played in the playoffs.

Yeah, he's irreplaceable alright. Ladislav Smid, the Oilers answer to a top pairing blueliner, priceless.

Can I get a virtual high five for the work involved in setting up that pie chart OB? PIE CHARTS RULE!!!!

No one ever said he's a top pairing blue liner??

We're just saying he's not an easy player to replace.

Are you even an Oilers fan? All you ever do is come on here and bash the team and the players.

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#99 LinkfromHyrule
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I just thought of something...

if Dubnyk opts to go to free agency next season we are so far up the creek it's not even funny.

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#100 Walter Sobchak
July 08 2013, 04:29PM
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LinkfromHyrule wrote:

I just thought of something...

if Dubnyk opts to go to free agency next season we are so far up the creek it's not even funny.

You mean were not there yet!

What's this paddle for?

*throws paddle away*

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