CLIFFORD: OFFER SHEET?

Jason Gregor
July 09 2013 05:47PM

 

It is obvious the Oilers need a winger with size, grit and a willingness to go to the tough areas to play in their top-six. They don't have one on the roster, and no one in the system is NHL-ready. If I was Craig MacTavish, I would sign RFA Kyle Clifford to an offer sheet.
 
I would offer him a one-year deal between $2.7- $3 million. 

This is why I believe Clifford makes sense.

  • He's the type of player they need, and it doesn't matter that he hasn't been a top-six forward thus far, because very few teams have six actual "top-six" forwards.
     
  • The compensation is only a 2nd round pick. Clifford was the 35th pick in 2009. He's already played three years in the NHL, and the chance that 2nd round pick turns out to be as good as Clifford is extremely low.
     
  • The Kings only have $5 million in cap space and they need to sign fourplayers. If they matched the offer sheet, they'd have a hard time singing both Jordan Nolan and Trevor Lewis.
     
  • Clifford isn't a regular 2nd liner, when you look at his offensive numbers, but if he played regularly with two of Nugent-Hopkins, Hall, Eberle, Gagner or Yakupov he'd improve and put up okay numbers.
     
  • His style of play is exactly the type of complimentary player the Oilers need to play alongside their skilled forwards.
     
  • Before you say he's only scored 7 goals, keep in mind he did that in 48 games this season. Is it possible he could score 15 in a full season playing alongside RNH, Hall, Yakupov, Gagner or Eberle? I think so.
     
  • Also, don't get hung up on points. His contribution would be more than just points. He would bring an element of tenacity, grit and toughness that the top-six lacks. His style of play could create more room for the skilled players.

TOP-SIX FORWARDS

Very few teams have six top-six forwards. The Blackhawks just won the Cup with Michal Handzus and Bryan Bickell in their top-six. Were they considered top-six forwards at the start of the year, or even late in the year? Didn't think so.

The past three full NHL seasons the 180th forward (six per team) had 32, 34 and 33 points. Is it completely ridiculous to believe Clifford could pot 28-33 points playing 15-16 minutes a night on the Oilers top-two lines, or mixed in at times on the 3rd line?

RISKS

  • Would it be an overpayment? Based on what he done so far in his career, yes, but it would only be a one-year deal. If he can't handle being a top-six forward, the Oilers could still look at re-signing as a bottom six for a lower contract next year.
     
  • If he has a good season, you'd have to pay him $3 million again, but that means he's produced so that shouldn't be a big issue. He's only 22 and he could mature and grow with the other young forwards.
     
  • I don't buy that if the Oilers offer sheet him the Kings will be looking for revenge in the future. The Oilers don't have cap issues moving forward, and they shoud have no problem extending Nugent-Hopkins and J.Schultz next season. This is business not personal, and if Dean Lombardi gets upset, oh well.
     
  • The Oilers and Ducks have made trades since the Dustin Penner offer sheet, so the Oilers shouldn't be concerned about potential backlash from the Kings.
     
  • I'd consider this a bold move, because the Oilers would thinking outside the box. Clifford is the type of player they need, and even though he hasn't shown he is a top-six forward yet, he also hasn't been given the opportunity on a very deep LA Kings team.

Clifford would sign the offer sheet in a heartbeat, I'm just not sure if the Kings would match it or settle for the 2nd round pick?

I think the risk is worth the potential reward.

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#51 Walter Sobchak
July 09 2013, 08:35PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Arrrrgh, you Pirate! Need any help to hastily board those two ships?

...any way we could capture Dustin Brown as well?

I'm serious, and I mean this,

Offer sheet the shIp out of teams!! I don't care what kind of backlash come this way!

At the very least it shows players out there that the Oilers mean business, make GM's sphincter tighten at the very mention of a RFA !

Oilers now open for BUSINESS!!

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#52 nuge2nail
July 09 2013, 08:41PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

We need vanek not Clifford.

2014 First rounder, Gagner plus Marincin assuming vanek signs an extension.

Sign Grabovski.

Vanek Grabovski Yakupov

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#53 striatic
July 09 2013, 08:44PM
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Vanek via trade or Penner via UFA are both much better options.

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#54 106 and 106
July 09 2013, 08:45PM
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Great place to start, and what a stellar price - hopefully MacT reads this - need to start filling holes before everyone leaves for the summer.

The team is better, but not by that much... yet.

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#55 clyde
July 09 2013, 08:46PM
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striatic wrote:

sorry for over posting but to put this in perspective, last year Magnus Paajarvi had more goals, more assists and better Corsi Rel than Kyle Clifford and yet Clifford is supposed to take a slot in the top 6 instead of Magnus?

i'm not buying it. neither of these guys should be in the top 6 of any team next year.

Clifford adds a different element which is why this was proposed. It is an element that the Oilers are missing and Magnus can't provide.

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#56 striatic
July 09 2013, 08:46PM
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

We need vanek not Clifford.

2014 First rounder, Gagner plus Marincin assuming vanek signs an extension.

Sign Grabovski.

Vanek Grabovski Yakupov

i don't like giving up that much for Vanek when it should be possible to simply sign him as UFA next summer without giving up assets.

well, as simple as getting him to sign an extension anyway.

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#57 striatic
July 09 2013, 08:50PM
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@clyde

Clifford and Paajarvi are the same size .. PRV is a little bigger now, actually.

is the element Clifford provides "MOAR FACEPUNCHING" or something?

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#58 Paq Twinn
July 09 2013, 08:55PM
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kjml wrote:

Why not try out 6'2'' 204lbs UFA Peter Mueller as a 2nd or 3rd line guy for 1.5 million instead

Mueller isn't the aggressive "hard to play against" type. He's a bigger body that plays a "smaller" game.

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#59 Oiler Al
July 09 2013, 09:03PM
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Should this not be Eager's role on the team.

I suggest acquiring Cliffor a couple of months ago, however, dont think an offer sheet is the way to go. Makes Oilers look pretty desperate. to O S a player at this level.

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#60 fig pucker
July 09 2013, 09:12PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

I honestly would do this! What kind of backlash has Philadelphia seen since the Weber offer sheet?

While MacTavish is at it, go for Pietrangelo as well!

Enough of this pussy footing around already!

Quit begging teams to deal with you! Use the system to your advantage, the Oilers owe it to themselves and to the fans to put the best product on the ice.

amen brother, i remember how i made these points and many others in the article yesterday on a different thread regarding peiterangelo. everyone couldn't jump all over me fast enough to slam the idea. funny how the world changes in a day.

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#61 shonn
July 09 2013, 09:16PM
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offer sheet Nolan instead, he is the exact kind of guy we need on our team, or offer sheet them both, LA only has 5 million of cap space with 5 guys to sign

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#62 Supernova
July 09 2013, 09:19PM
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Paq Twinn wrote:

Great ideas but we can only offer 7 yr term to free agents drafted else where.

Right, my bad

So sign Pietrangelo for 7 years. They will match it regardless, I would imagine you would have to hit 9+ to not have them match.

Pietrangelo is already a number 1 defenceman, who will play at a top level for the next dozen or so years, they will essentially match what ever someone pitches the whole exercise is to bind them cap wise.

Dirty business but teams like the oilers should be doing this.

They have not locals should level the playing field and tighten the strings on good teams.

I would advocate doing this to Philly next year with Schenn and Couterier is they aren't already resigned.

The compliance buyouts were the worst thing for lots of teams because it allowed the teams with nearly unmovable contracts to move them.

We already know only certain amount of money can be spent on contracts. ( 50 % or HRR) all this does it move the percantage points around. It also will teach teams about proper asset management.

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#63 HerbaDerp
July 09 2013, 09:24PM
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Can we all please stop talking about Penner being a good fit. Do you not remember why we traded him? How about pancakes? Or being in the dog house in LA for the past few years? Clifford is a great idea and fits a role that we clearly need. I'm surprised some of you jokers haven't mentioned bringing Stortini back. Oh wait Anaheim signed him. Brutal.

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#64 Mikey
July 09 2013, 09:28PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

I honestly would do this! What kind of backlash has Philadelphia seen since the Weber offer sheet?

While MacTavish is at it, go for Pietrangelo as well!

Enough of this pussy footing around already!

Quit begging teams to deal with you! Use the system to your advantage, the Oilers owe it to themselves and to the fans to put the best product on the ice.

17 posts is all it took.

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#65 Jarrett
July 09 2013, 09:28PM
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I LOVE this idea, and not only because it crossed my mind about two weeks ago...I love it because I see potential in K.C.! Did anybody see Curtis Glencross turning out as good as he did 5 years ago? He was on waivers, but I see the similarities between the two players. An offer sheet to Chris Stewart would be matched, so it seems futile.

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#66 Quicksilver ballet
July 09 2013, 09:36PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

I'm serious, and I mean this,

Offer sheet the shIp out of teams!! I don't care what kind of backlash come this way!

At the very least it shows players out there that the Oilers mean business, make GM's sphincter tighten at the very mention of a RFA !

Oilers now open for BUSINESS!!

I knew you were serious. We see things much along the same lines. Plundering someones assets is more than just a one man job in todays game. I was trying to say, I was willing to come along and supervise this undertaking you mentioned.

People can call it whatever they want, dirty, underhanded business, but it's still business as usual no matter how you dress it up. MacTavish was free to start making changes 10 weeks ago, not just in the last two weeks. He sure doesn't appear to be the man he lead us to believe he was.

Not big on Peterangelo yet, he may be a No. 1 in St. Louis but he's no unanimous league wide No.1 like say a Chara or Weber. He still has a ways to go like OEL does before he's anointed.

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#67 Mikey
July 09 2013, 09:39PM
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striatic wrote:

CorsiRel isn't the be all and end all and there are reasons why his isn't that great, but when you combine it with the low point total the stats don't exactly scream "second line LW".

Or you could watch him play?

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#68 Quicksilver ballet
July 09 2013, 09:48PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Should this not be Eager's role on the team.

I suggest acquiring Cliffor a couple of months ago, however, dont think an offer sheet is the way to go. Makes Oilers look pretty desperate. to O S a player at this level.

Stirring the pot is a young mans game. Ben (pushing 30) just can't be expected to do that anymore with his recent history. If Eakins realizes this and switches his role somewhat, then Ben has a chance to re-establish/reinvent himself and possibly buy him a few more yrs in this league. A 22 yr old Clifford is better suited to poke the bear on a nightly basis. Edmonton could sure use two Kyle Cliffords.

Maybe if MacTavish could land Hartnell. Scotty could rack'em up, and Clifford could knock'em down.

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#69 Clyde
July 09 2013, 09:52PM
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striatic wrote:

Clifford and Paajarvi are the same size .. PRV is a little bigger now, actually.

is the element Clifford provides "MOAR FACEPUNCHING" or something?

No, he's not great at that. But he gets in hard on the forecheck, bangs bodies, sticks up for teammates and goes hard to the net etc. I think the idea was he could develop potentially into a clarkson type player especially playing with 2 skilled line mates. It is risky but who knows

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#70 revingev
July 09 2013, 09:58PM
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I love the idea of trying Clifford, Jason. If that does not work trying Stewart at the cost of a 1st round and 2nd round next year is not bad. Next year is one of the weakest drafts coming in some time. There will be serviceable players but wont be as deep as top 10 more like top 5 and the rest plug and play likely. IMO. The next 2 years following will be some good kids coming through.

I say lets try the offer sheet to a RFA and make as bold as move as makes sense. What I do not want to see is our current line up with what we currently have on opening pre-season day. It's time to take some chances again before every star drafted player we have are out of their ELC entirely. If that happens we wont be able to keep them together for long.

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#71 Smokey
July 09 2013, 10:00PM
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Interesting speculation. Especially since Lambo and the Oilers kissed and made up at the draft. I think screwing with Lambo has concequences that aren't worth over a third line player. The Oil should sign Penner or Antropov if they want some beef. I'm sure JF Jauque is available and could score 10 goals playing in the top 6.

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#72 bwar
July 09 2013, 10:10PM
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Just a note on the whole Vanek thing: Vanek did play hockey in Alberta when he was younger so thinking that him signing an extension with the Oilers is crazy would be incorrect. He has friends in the area who would be ecstatic if he put on a Oilers uniform.

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#73 madjam
July 09 2013, 10:15PM
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Offer sheet Adam Henrique . Trade to get Perron . Second trade to get Clifford and M.A.Cliche (package deal) from L.A. . Maybe we can get rid of some of our excess better that way . Add those reasonable purchaers and it should spell contender or better . All of the younger variety I might add. They should all be assets , not declining liabilities .

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#74 Taylor Gang
July 09 2013, 10:16PM
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I'm more interested in getting our bottom 6 in check than our defense. Cliffordcis a step in the right direction, but we need a big change if we want anything to happen for the better. Is Winnipeg a good trading partner?

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#75 madjam
July 09 2013, 10:18PM
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bwar wrote:

Just a note on the whole Vanek thing: Vanek did play hockey in Alberta when he was younger so thinking that him signing an extension with the Oilers is crazy would be incorrect. He has friends in the area who would be ecstatic if he put on a Oilers uniform.

Did he not sign an offer sheet to play here , but Buffalo matched it ?

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#76 madjam
July 09 2013, 10:25PM
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Any one know if Slepychev will be over for training camp in September ? Might he surprise and make a spot on team ?

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#77 GVBlackhawk
July 09 2013, 10:25PM
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striatic wrote:

CorsiRel isn't the be all and end all and there are reasons why his isn't that great, but when you combine it with the low point total the stats don't exactly scream "second line LW".

Any reasonable OS for Clifford will be matched by LA. Offer sheeting Clifford at an overpay is not worth it for this type/caliber of player.

It would make more sense to take a one or two year flyer on Grabovski. He can play 2L or 2C, and can fill in for RNH as he likely won't be ready to start the season. It would be nice to have some center depth this season and not rely on a bunch of AHL'ers (sorry Barons) when the injury bug inevitably strikes.

But he is already perceived to have an attitude problem so the Oilers will pass. As if any of us haven't went on a profanity-laced tirade when we were pissed off!

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#78 GVBlackhawk
July 09 2013, 10:27PM
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madjam wrote:

Any one know if Slepychev will be over for training camp in September ? Might he surprise and make a spot on team ?

He will get an invite to the Oilers rookie camp in September. He would have to be impressive to get an invite to Oilers training camp. He is young and needs development time -- likely in KHL and hopefully in OKC one day. Long-shot odds to make the Oilers this fall.

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#79 Gordoil
July 09 2013, 10:28PM
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Would be a good pick up, however MacT commented on not doing an offer sheet. Would like to see them trade for Nick Foligno from the Jackets. I believe he would be good fit for 2LW.

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#80 Putzstew
July 09 2013, 10:31PM
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Agree that Cliford is what we need but in order to keep good relations why not do the same as Burke did with Kesle? Force a trade.

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#81 Walter Sobchak
July 09 2013, 10:35PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

We do see things the same, that's what I knew you meant by the pirate comment! Lol

Plunder, pillage, steal, break, but no more begging!

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#82 striatic
July 09 2013, 10:40PM
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Mikey wrote:

Or you could watch him play?

i watched about 70% of all Kings games this year.

so yeah i've watched him play.

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#83 Quicksilver ballet
July 09 2013, 10:41PM
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The euros let some of their 17/18yr olds play in the pro leagues, the SEL,KHL and the Finnish Elite League. Why are the 18 yr old North American kids being held back?

Seems like a waste to have a kid who needs to get use to the pace of the pro game here, be sent back only to play with kids again. I'm sure the CHL could get by without a few first rounders every year that may benefit from going to the AHL.

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#84 Patrick
July 09 2013, 11:09PM
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When a fan/caller suggests these type of moves, or dare to question your suggestions, they get absolutely BLASTED on air by you (and on the rare occasion you respond to comments in your own blogs). Or better yet, get called a vile name such as 'mouth breather' by brownlee.

MacT would never bother with an offer sheet. Why? Because it's a useless tactic that has next to zero chance of success. When was the last non-matched offer sheet, Dustin Penner in 07? 8 offer sheets in the last decade. Success rate of less than 0.01% compared to total contracts issued. Let's not waste time addressing a eklund-ish rumour. Would've been better served speculating on Chris Stewart, big bruising body, in exchange for a first and a third, big upside. Or Alex Pietrangelo, great d-man, offer up to the max for a 1st/3rd compensation. Or use the threat of the offer sheet in order to force a trade. See I can speculate, because that's my role. Your role is to report facts. Maybe that'll get you some cred.

I'm not a troll, or a hater, I love the radio hosts that treat listeners with respect. It's no surprise to me that those guys are the ones with inside knowledge, and have guest spots on shows outside the City. A little respect goes a long way.

Respect.

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#85 Quicksilver ballet
July 09 2013, 11:15PM
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@Patrick

I'd wager Meg Morrison "freight trained" you one too many times on the air.

Comes across like a pound of bitterness...

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#86 jonnyquixote
July 09 2013, 11:16PM
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I think the offer would have to come in at a bit more than 3 million to be effective. The Kings will have more flexibility with Willie Mitchell going on LTI, probably for the whole season.

Far better to negotiate a deal for Clifford (or Lewis), using the threat of an offer-sheet as an incentive for the Kings to deal and the 2nd rounder compensation as a watermark for the value.

That said, I think he's a good choice for the Oilers right now. I wouldn't necessarily pencil him in as the 2nd line winger, but as competition for Paajarvi for that spot, one who can adequately (probably) play on the 3rd or 4th line too.

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#87 kgo
July 09 2013, 11:31PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

I'd wager Meg Morrison "freight trained" you one too many times on the air.

Comes across like a pound of bitterness...

Comes across pretty accurate to me....and the reason he never replies in his posts is because he's too busy replying with different names....I'm trying to figure out which writer you are, and which writer is DSF

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#88 Dangilitis
July 09 2013, 11:35PM
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Ottawa a little thin on D depth and 1 legitimate RW (2 if you count Pageau emergence). Oil in need of #2 LW. Hemsky and Michalek - 2 similarly productive players, 1 yr left on deals. Similar salaries. Michalek no longer needed with Conacher, Ryan and MacArthur vying for top 3 lines. Not that Ottawa needs cap relief, but keep 1.5 millon of Hemsky's salary to sweeten the deal. Then add 2nd round draft pick or Nick Schultz (Ottawa's choice).

a 2nd line of Michalek - Gagner - Yakupov has size, skill, and passion and would round out a very good top 6, while pushing Paajarvi down to join Gordon on 3rd line with, hopefully, a free agent signing to fill 3rd line RW.

Hemsky wants out, we want him to have a new start and it would be a nice landing spot where it is rumored that he is wanted. If we gave Ottawa a 2nd, it would be the 2nd we would be giving up by offer sheet to Clifford, but the caliber of Michalek and Clifford are not comparable.

MacT says he can't meet all his goals this summer. That's loser talk. One trade fixes the top 6 forwards. 1 trade can bring in another legitimate top 4 Dman.

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#89 Fish
July 09 2013, 11:39PM
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Sorry Gregor, can't do this and keep the team. It throws off the team pay structure. How can you ever offer sheet Clifford, for what he has done in NHL, @ 3 mill, and then turn around and negotiate solid cap friendly deals with PRV, Jones, etc. etc. etc. It's not that i don't like Clifford, I just think you slit your own neck with everyone elses contracts.

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#90 toprightcorner
July 10 2013, 01:03AM
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I could be wrong but if you give Clifford a contract for 1 year, the next years qualifying offer has to be at least what the previous contract was? so if he bombs, you lose if cause you are not qualifying him at that dollar. makes that a bigger risk.

I would only do an offer sheet if that was the only way to get some size into the lineup.

I also think Matt Martin from NYI is a very similar player, hits more and also spends time on the PK. would have to trade for him, 3 years left at $1 mill.

GEt Stewart after they sign Pietriangello and are out of cap space. 5 years $5.5 mill, same salary is Hemskly.

Now thats grit, size plus scoring on the top 6

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#91 jonnyquixote
July 10 2013, 02:42AM
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toprightcorner wrote:

I could be wrong but if you give Clifford a contract for 1 year, the next years qualifying offer has to be at least what the previous contract was? so if he bombs, you lose if cause you are not qualifying him at that dollar. makes that a bigger risk.

I would only do an offer sheet if that was the only way to get some size into the lineup.

I also think Matt Martin from NYI is a very similar player, hits more and also spends time on the PK. would have to trade for him, 3 years left at $1 mill.

GEt Stewart after they sign Pietriangello and are out of cap space. 5 years $5.5 mill, same salary is Hemskly.

Now thats grit, size plus scoring on the top 6

If Clifford bombs, you might be able to negotiate a long-term contract with him mid-season at a lower yearly rate than the $3million or so per that his salary currently sits at.

Depending on how hard he's bombing or what he thinks the FA landscape looks like, he might come in at a (slightly) lower price point in return for a longer deal.

However, I think you're probably right in that a 2-3 year contract, which would preserve RFA eligibility upon its expiration, would make far more sense.

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#92 seanjohn667
July 10 2013, 02:59AM
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@Walter Sobchak

what's all this Vanek talk? guys, snap out of it. we need what we haven't got, not more of what we already have. We already have the one-shot scorers, the passers, the puck carriers, the danglers. we need puck retrievers, battlers, and screeners. Unless i missed something, Vanek is not that.

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#93 Walter Sobchak
July 10 2013, 06:52AM
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seanjohn667 wrote:

what's all this Vanek talk? guys, snap out of it. we need what we haven't got, not more of what we already have. We already have the one-shot scorers, the passers, the puck carriers, the danglers. we need puck retrievers, battlers, and screeners. Unless i missed something, Vanek is not that.

Who said anything about Vanek? He's a UFA next year.

We (as a group of posters) and I are talking about RFA's and offer sheets.

Vanek is a different conversation for a different time.

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#96 Obiwan Eberle - Team Silver Fox
July 10 2013, 07:35AM
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Hemmer (1/2 salary retained) and a 3rd would get you there I'd bet. May have to take some money back but it's better than the offer sheet I say.

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