NEED A CENTRE, CAN'T AFFORD A CENTRE

Jason Gregor
August 20 2013 09:39AM

The Oilers need another NHL centre. Plain. And. Simple.

In a best case scenario they will start the season with Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sam Gagner and Boyd Gordon as proven NHL players, leaving Anton Lander, Marc Arcobello, Will Acton and Andrew Miller to battle for the 4th spot.

In a realistic scenario, they likely start the season with two healthy, proven NHL centres. Ouch.

You need depth down the middle and on the blueline to win in the NHL, and right now the Oilers depth down the middle is thinner than Strudwick's hairline. As a follicly challenged man, I am well-versed in thinning/receding hairlines, and the Oilers' centre depth chart has about as much chance of success as my hair growing back if I suddenly started using Propecia. It ain't happening.

I knew when the "dream" was over, and the Oilers need to recognize you can't compete in the NHL with no depth down the middle.

Taylor Hall is not the answer. He's a dominant winger. He is comfortable as a winger, and while I'm sure he could play centre for a short time, that doesn't solve the Oilers lack of depth. Using Hall or Ryan Smyth as centres should only occur when injuries have depleted your lineup, not for the opening game of the season.

Rome wasn't built in a day, and I never expected Craig MacTavish to be able to overhaul a team that has missed the playoffs seven years in a row, into a playoff contender over one off-season, but if he wants to give his team a chance to fight for the playoffs, he needs to bring in another proven NHL centre.

I understand the need to give guys a chance, and Acton might be the one who surprises people the most, but it is still a risky venture to start a season with a lack of at centre.

SLIM PICKINGS...

The free agent crop of centres isn't great: Mikhail Grabovski, Tim Connolly, Matthew Lombardi, Manny Malhotra, Marty Reasoner, Kyle Wellwood, David Steckel and Jerred Smithson. Vinny Prospal and Steve Sullivan have also played down the middle, but they are 38 and 39 respectively.

Grabovski, Connolly, Lombardi and Wellwood are the best offensive centres, but Lombardi and Connolly are injury-prone while Wellwood is buffet-prone.

Malhotra's eye injury made it hard for him to be effective last season, and he's a 4th liner at best. Steckel is good in the faceoff dot, but does he compete hard enough in other areas of the ice? He also would only be a 4th line guy, not someone who could fill the void until RNH is healthy.

The best option would be signing Grabovski for one year. Yesterday, Cam Charron and I were discussing the similarities between Grabovski and Alex Semin. Last summer, Semin didn't sign a contract until July 26th. The Hurricanes gave him $7 million for one season. Many scoffed at the deal, but Semin proved them wrong producing 44 points in 44 games and the Hurricanes signed him to a five-year extension.

I see Grabovski as a cheaper version of Semin.

Signing Grabovski for one year at $4 to $5 million would be a good move, and I 'd like to believe the only reason MacTavish hasn't done that already is because he doesn't have the cap space.

How a team who finished 30th, 30th, 29th and 24th the past four seasons doesn't have the cap space to sign a top-nine forward is mind-boggling, but it's even worse that they don't have cap space to sign a quality centre man.

I'd much rather have my team short on winger depth, than depth down the middle. Right now the Oilers have too much money wrapped up in forwards, specifically wingers.

The Oilers have seven forwards, only two centres, making $3.5 million or more.

The only other team in the western conference with that many big ticket forwards is the Colorado Avalanche. The Avs have Paul Stastny ($6.6 mill cap hit), Ryan O'Reilly ($5 mill), PA Parenteau ($4 mill), Nathan MacKinnon ($3.75 mill), Gabriel Landeskog ($3.575 mill), Alex Tanguay and Matt Duchene ($3.5 mill). But four, five if you include Tanguay, who play centre.

Here is how the rest of the western conference looks with forwards making $3.5 mill or more.

5 forwards: Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, San Jose, Vancouver and Winnipeg.
4 forwards: Los Angeles, Minnesota, Nashville and St.Louis.
3 forwards: Calgary and Phoenix.
2 forwards: Anaheim.

The Oilers have too much money tied up on the wings. I don't doubt MacTavish realizes that, which is why he stated in April that he'd be looking to move Ales Hemsky, but unfortunately for the Oilers that didn't materialize.

Because of that the Oilers find themselves near the cap ceiling, with no room to add a quality centreman. It is a major issue, and could become a catalyst for the Oilers missing the playoffs for an 8th consecutive season.

It is a huge risk to enter the season with only two healthy NHL centres, but as of today, it looks like the Oilers will do exactly that.

PARTING SHOTS....

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    I couldn't put down The Book of Negroes by Canadian author Lawrence Hill. It was a captivating tale of slavery, with a strong tie to Canada and sadly reminds us of the terror we are capable of inflicting on another human.

    Predictably Irrational focuses on behavioural economics and irrational/rational human behaviour. What is behind our decisions? It is an interesting read if you want to better understand yours or others decisions relating to social or market norms.
     
  •  If you don't know, the rookie tournament goes Sept 5th to 9th in Penticton. The Oilers play Calgary on the 5th, Winnipeg on the 7th and Vancouver on the 8th. The games will be streamed live on oilers.nhl.com.
     

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#1 dv.asteroid
August 20 2013, 10:36AM
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Trade gags to the buds for 1st rounder. Sign Garbo. Playoffs follow.

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#2 DSF
August 20 2013, 11:34AM
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Spydyr wrote:

A poster to remain nameless post four days ago the Oilers need at lease one more center if the they wish to make the playoffs.

They received 15 trashes and 4 props.

Things sure change fast on ON.

The continuing problems resulting from drafting the "best player available" when that is nothing more than an opinion and is not supported by actual results 5 years after the draft.

If it's even close, you should ALWAYS draft the centre ahead of the winger and drafting D in the top 10 is dumb unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure that D will be an impact top pairing D.

The infamous Derek Zona has a piece up this morning lamenting the Oilers lack of C depth and pining for the depth of the Carolina Hurricanes.

"What do Eric Staal, Jiri Tlusty, Jordan Staal, Jeff Skinner, Tuomo Ruutu, Jeremy Welsh, Nathan Gerbe, Riley Nash and Zac Dalpe have in common? They're all natural centers and only three of them have stayed that position throughout their careers.

There's a good chance that at least 50% of the forwards currently in the NHL have played center at one point in their careers and most teams like to stock up on guys who can play this position.

Most teams. The Oilers counter with an injured Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sam Gagner, Boyd Gordon, left wing Ryan Smyth, Anton Lander, Mark Arcobello, Will Acton and Andrew Miller.

Or they can move Taylor Hall to the middle and wreck their left wing depth. Back to Sznajder:

The point here is that having a lot of centers gives your team versatility and that's never a bad thing."

http://www.coppernblue.com/2013/8/20/4628992/oilers-dilemmas-centre-depth

Just take a look at the Blues C depth.

Backes, Berglund, Oshie, Roy, Sobotka, Lapierre, Aucoin.

Or the Kings.

Kopitar, Richards, Carter, Stoll, Lewis, Fraser, Nolan.

Or even the lowly Panthers.

Barkov, Matthias, Goc, Shore, Bjugstad, Howden, Gomez,

7 deep in all three cases.

And yet the Oilers drafted a D and then went out an acquired another 372 bottom pairing D.

Go figure.

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#3 DSF
August 20 2013, 11:51AM
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Will wrote:

As the GM of the Sharks said, some teams draft and some teams deal. Even with all the deals Mac T made, I still think we are a drafting team. Because of that we have to look for one of our drafted players to step up and take that 4th line centre spot and run with it.

At the very least he created a competitive situation at 4th line C allowing one of the drafted guys to emerge as the right fit for that spot.

I personally like the fact that Hall is already gearing up to start the year at C until Nuge comes back. He's been against it forever but now out of necessity he sounds ready to give it everything he has.

It might just be the thing for the team to say, "see, look how good you did there, lets keep that going." Especially since we have all this talent on the wings, if Hall can be the player he is but move to centre, that would completely change the look of our forwards and give the Oilers a bunch of options for line combos.

If Hall moves to centre, the Oilers' LW depth is Perron, Smyth, Joensuu.

That dog won't hunt.

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#4 DSF
August 20 2013, 01:16PM
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Will wrote:

I would assume Gagner would be moved over to the wing once Nuge is back healthy, assuming Hall stayed at centre. And though they would possibly be weak on the left side, with Yak on your right and Nuge in the middle, would it really matter?

Have you seen Gagner's board work?

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#5 Souby
August 20 2013, 12:16PM
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Ideally I'd love the Oilers to get Stoll back from LA or maybe Zack Smith from Ottawa, but I don't see either of those happening. So I will throw this out there.....how about Hemsky to Winnipeg for Jokinen? Both guys are UFA's after this year, their cap hits are similar (5MM vs 4.5MM)and the deal would leave both teams with approx 1.8MM in cap space. Winnipeg would probably not do this because it would leave them thin at C but you never know. Thoughts?

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#6 Spydyr
August 20 2013, 11:11AM
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A poster to remain nameless post four days ago the Oilers need at lease one more center if the they wish to make the playoffs.

They received 15 trashes and 4 props.

Things sure change fast on ON.

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#7 Geoff
August 20 2013, 11:02AM
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I think the Oilers still have one more trade to do before they can say they are competing for the playoffs. Unfortunately it's probably going to one of our young kids and it's probably going to be one of the wingers. That means imo either yakupov or eberle, petry + w/e for a top D man plus a quality all round center.

Even though it might or probably won't be that exact deal but I think everyone at least can acknowledge something like that is going to happen and has to happen before this team can be competitive for a stanley cup.

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#8 Quicksilver ballet
August 20 2013, 10:16PM
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Our options are very limited. Best bet, put a few more AHL'ers in Oiler jerseys, and pass them off as NHL'ers. Worked fairly well these last five years. Who are we to question managements best effort.

Those A type fans will buy anything, afterall, what choice do they have.

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#9 OTown
August 20 2013, 11:05AM
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In hindsight it looks like not buying out Hemsky may have been a mistake. Furthermore, though I think trading Paajarvi and a 2nd for Perron was a good trade for the Oilers after the draft, free agency and the compliance buyout window, I think things could've worked out even better if that trade didn't happen and Hemsky was bought out:

Scenario 1) Sign Grabovski, move Gagner to the wing and sign a 4th line centre like Maholtra or Steckel (which I think they should still do).

or

Scenario 2) Make an offer sheet to Derek Stepan for $5M and possibly lose a 1st and 3rd but would still have a 2nd round pick if Paajarvi is still in the lineup. Still sign a 4th liner and move Gagner to the wing.

In both scenarios the Oilers now have 5 NHL caliber centres (Nuge, Gags, Gordon, Stepan/Grabovski, Maholtra/Steckel), and they have an upgraded bottom 6 (Gordon, Paajarvi, Smyth, Joensu, Jones, Maholtra/Steckel).

I know it's easy for me as an armchair GM with no consequences and 7 weeks after the compliance buyout window and free agency but it was clear after the "Centre Injury Fest of 2013" that the Oilers were lacking depth in that department and the departure or Horcoff didn't help that particular issue despite people's opinion of the player.

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#10 Tim in Kelowna
August 20 2013, 10:04AM
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Good read, Gregor. I have been relatively happy with MacTs first summer as GM, but it is nuts to go into the season with 2 healthy NHL centremen (both small).

I know we have no cash, but I would love to see David Steckel in the Oilers lineup. He's big and wins faceoffs. For me, that makes up for any lack of foot speed.

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#11 Smokey
August 20 2013, 10:06AM
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Cap space is not a problem. Depends if you want to salvage a asset in Schultz. In no way would Schultz deserve it, but he could be buried in OKC.

I don't think MacT wants Grabbo, and I am tired of barking up that tree. Frankly sign Steckel or Smithson to help with the draws, and go with it, or bury a contract and pay a dollar or two for Grabbo or Boyes.

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#12 Zarny
August 20 2013, 02:18PM
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The Oilers don't just need another NHL C; they need the right kind of C.

"Filling a void" until Nuge returns is short term thinking and isn't going to win a Cup.

Nuge and Gagner are probably the smallest 1-2 C in the NHL. In a 7 game series, Chara or Weber would eat them like an appetizer.

Grabovski/Stastny and most C named are more of the same. Literally, you get nothing more than what you have in Gagner. Small, skilled and in a playoffs series against teams like Chi, LA or Bos likely to get beaten to a pulp.

The Oilers will not contend for the Cup with the smallest 1-2 C in the league. They can make the playoffs but they won't win four 7 games series against teams that have legit, shutdown D. Especially when none of the remaining top 6 F play like Lucic.

A bigger body like Steckel on the 4th line would help; but realistically you need a 1-2 C that can go againt guys like Toews/Getzlaf/Malkin/Staal.

The real solution is trading Nuge or Gagner for a bigger C with equivalent offensive skill.

The problem of course is that is a very short list.

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#13 Woogie63
August 20 2013, 10:01PM
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Have we all decided RNH has demonstrated he is a number one centre, what if he develops into a 2C? He has played portions of two seasons, he has looked very good in parts of those seasons, but he was on steep learning curve last year when Horcoff was out with an injury, I think he went zero for an extended number of games.

He finished last year 141 in the scoring race And number 56 top scoring centre.

And he played massive PK minutes and massive time with 4,14.

If there a plan B if RNH does not reach full potential?

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#14 Freewheeling Freddie
August 20 2013, 10:32AM
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What is the longest playoff drought? Mac T better be able to pull a rabbit out of a hat. With the current situation that we have up the middle it could be eight years without the post season dance.

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#15 freelancer
August 20 2013, 11:09AM
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Hey Jason, just for the "use a player from within" argument, what about having Eberle play center until Nuge is back. Did he not use to play center in junior? Plus you can move up Hemsky without having to out him or Yak on his off wing. Thoughts?

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#16 gordoil
August 20 2013, 11:57AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

The Oilers currently have $1.3 million in cap space counting 24 players. Take off Potter and that leaves them with $2.1 million. You won't get Grabovski for $2 million.

Plus you'd like some cap flexibility during the season. The Oilers don't have much room, especially for a bottom-tier team.

That would leave them at 24 players still so they could also dump "say Ryan smith" and be at 4.6 which would leave lots of room for a "say David Steckel". Or is 24 the minimum.

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#17 russ99
August 20 2013, 02:35PM
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Grabowski is a pipe-dream.

Gordon was promised a third line role and ice-time, and Grabowski isn't going to sign to play 4th line.

Hopefully they can invite someone decent to camp, and make a move to free up salary before the season.

I'm thinking Steckel, Reasoner or Smithson.

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#18 OilClog
August 20 2013, 03:34PM
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THE SKY IS FALLING! wait.. another moaning article/blog/comment about not having enough Center depth in August.. PANIC AT THE DISCO!

MacT will bring in players, MacT isn't Tambi, everyone needs to chill and sip on a can of RC cola.

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#19 916oiler
August 20 2013, 10:11AM
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As much as I agree that Grabo would be awesome to have it would have happened already if it was in the cards.

Grabo doesn't want to play here.

He knows there's interest from other teams, and sees that we have RNH and Gags locked up for a few years. He wants opportunity, and stability, in a top 6 roll. He doesn't want to have to fight with Gags to get his minutes. And he sure as hall doesn't want a defensive-oriented assignment...i think...pretty sure...yup.

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#20 Jodes
August 20 2013, 10:15AM
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.. The Oilers haven't been deep down the middle since Doug Weight left and of course in 06 (Peca, Horcoff, Stoll, Reasoner). Idiotic management decisions by both Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini again decimated this franchise. They've buried this club so deep it's going to take Mac T a long time to dig himself out.

So get use to Lander being 3rd line come the beginning of the year folks. No white knight on a horse is coming.

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#21 mayorblaine
August 20 2013, 09:51AM
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*pours out a bottle of propecia in honour of us folically challenged men*

also you are spot on about the center situation.

Hemsky has to go. is losing the trade worth losing a many games at start of season?

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#22 LinkfromHyrule
August 20 2013, 10:44AM
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While I love that Mact has turned our kiddy pool defense into something with real depth (even if it lacks current top-end talent), I feel macT has backed himself into a corner here. He needs a center, but has no cap space to sign anyone with. He has assets he's (presumably) willing to trade, that nobody seems to want. I think he may have signed one too many defenseman at the expense of C

So the defensive depth is somewhat fixed, only to have the same problem at center..

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#23 speeds
August 20 2013, 11:55AM
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Demoting Potter and Lander would leave EDM with 22 players on the roster, and ~3M to spend on a C should they so desire, or if they can find one they think is worth that money.

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#24 David S
August 20 2013, 12:29PM
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Souby wrote:

Ideally I'd love the Oilers to get Stoll back from LA or maybe Zack Smith from Ottawa, but I don't see either of those happening. So I will throw this out there.....how about Hemsky to Winnipeg for Jokinen? Both guys are UFA's after this year, their cap hits are similar (5MM vs 4.5MM)and the deal would leave both teams with approx 1.8MM in cap space. Winnipeg would probably not do this because it would leave them thin at C but you never know. Thoughts?

I'm pretty sure that if ANY team in the league had expressed ANY interest in Hemsky he would have been gone by now. We need that cap space for a C that badly.

Despite having once been "the reason we watched Oilers hockey for a long time", he's now a huge question mark in the health department who has massively underperformed the last few years.

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#25 Romulus' Apotheosis
August 20 2013, 01:52PM
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"Signing Grabovski for one year at $4 to $5 million would be a good move, and I 'd like to believe the only reason MacTavish hasn't done that already is because he doesn't have the cap space."

This is a mind-numbing sentence.

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#26 Zipdot
August 20 2013, 03:32PM
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Lol @ Lander getting zero love around here. Remember his playoffs? He's our 4C saviour, bros.

LANDER 4EVA

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#27 Sloppy Joe
August 20 2013, 09:58AM
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I totally agree that the Oil need to do something at centre, and I think Grabovski would be an excellent addition, but I just don't see it as a realistic possibility:

1) We don't have the cap space to sign him

2) We could probably make the cap space to sign him if we could dump N. Schultz's salary or trade him for a lower-paid player. However, I assume that MacT has been trying to find a home for N. Schultz all summer and has not been successful (you have to think that was part of the plan when he brought in 101 new and more mobile defencemen). In any event, the cap issue remains.

3) Even if there was no cap issue, it seems to me that Grabo would slot into the 3rd line spot behind Nuge and Gagner, and would push Gordon down to the 4th line. That looks like NHL centre depth to me, but I don't think Grabo has any interest in being slotted as a 3rd line C. That is where Carlyle had him for long stretches last year, and, as I recall, Grabo called Carlyle a fat $%^& this summer. My bet is that Grabo finds a home that gives him top 6 minutes or he plays in the KHL.

4) I think our best bet is to give training camp invites to Malholtra or Reasoner and see what happens (no cap issue here). Malholtra might not be as far gone as it seems - Nonis might have been keeping him off the ice for "his own good" for cap reasons (I admit this is pure speculation).

Alternately, if we can dump N. Schultz' salary, I would have no issue offering Prospal or Sullivan a 1 year deal. They're both old, but have remained relatively effective. They can't command much more than 1 yr deals in the NHL marketplace, so it would be a low risk move for the oil until they can sort out a longer term option for the Centre position (i.e. either a new acquisition or letting Lander grow into the 4C spot).

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#28 Sloppy Joe
August 20 2013, 10:02AM
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And I accidentally referred to Gillis as Nonis - apologies.

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#29 Tikkanese
August 20 2013, 10:21AM
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Gagner isn't exactly small. 5'11" 199 is not much under the league average 6'1" 205(I believe it is). He also doesn't play small. He isn't a hitting machine or anything, but he does stand up for himself, which does give him some room out there. He is a decent fighter, some call him the Featherweight Champ of the NHL.

Grabo isn't coming here to become a 3rd line Center. Gagner isn't a 3rd line Center either for that matter.

Doubt they move Gagner to the wing for Grabo or other Centers as Gagner, Perron and Yakupov are not 3rd line type players and one of them would have to be moved down to the 3rd line with such a move. Hemsky on the 3rd is bad enough.

Hopefully Lander or one of the other kids takes the opportunity and runs with it. If they all fail, I'm sure a Malhotra or Reasoner will still be available, or a trade for something similar will be easily achievable. Although that said, I am one that believes that Lander needed another full season in the AHL.

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#30 Matt
August 20 2013, 12:08PM
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YES. Gregor is correct.

Nultz is $3.5M. Oil have $1.3M in space. Grabovski is asking between $4 and $5M, I expect. So bury/buy out/trade Nultz and pay Grabovski. He will not want third line minutes. Happily, he would start the season challenging for the #1 centre position with the opportunity to have Hall/Yakupov/Perron/Eberle/Hemsky as wingers. That's not a bad way to get instant redemption. He'll also have some friendly Russians in the room (Yak, Belov, Grebs). His worst case scenario is on the third line with Hemsky and one of Smyth/Jones/Joensu. A reasonably offensive third line that could challenge for ice time collectively, and he'll still have every opportunity to earn individual time with the new coach and "new look" in place.

I'm hoping someone has made this case to him and the delay is just convincing someone to trade a 3rd round pick for Nultz.

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#31 Sloppy Joe
August 20 2013, 09:59AM
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Further to my prior comment, trading Hemsky for less salary obviously works too (i.e. as opposed to N. Schultz)

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#33 Will
August 20 2013, 11:46AM
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As the GM of the Sharks said, some teams draft and some teams deal. Even with all the deals Mac T made, I still think we are a drafting team. Because of that we have to look for one of our drafted players to step up and take that 4th line centre spot and run with it.

At the very least he created a competitive situation at 4th line C allowing one of the drafted guys to emerge as the right fit for that spot.

I personally like the fact that Hall is already gearing up to start the year at C until Nuge comes back. He's been against it forever but now out of necessity he sounds ready to give it everything he has.

It might just be the thing for the team to say, "see, look how good you did there, lets keep that going." Especially since we have all this talent on the wings, if Hall can be the player he is but move to centre, that would completely change the look of our forwards and give the Oilers a bunch of options for line combos.

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#34 Mikey
August 20 2013, 11:59AM
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I would like to think Eakins has an issue with Grabovski and that's why they didn't buy out Hemsky and sign him.

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#35 Will
August 20 2013, 01:10PM
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DSF wrote:

If Hall moves to centre, the Oilers' LW depth is Perron, Smyth, Joensuu.

That dog won't hunt.

I would assume Gagner would be moved over to the wing once Nuge is back healthy, assuming Hall stayed at centre. And though they would possibly be weak on the left side, with Yak on your right and Nuge in the middle, would it really matter?

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#37 **
August 20 2013, 09:00PM
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i think players and gms right now are playing the chicken game. It is behavioral economics all the way, gms want to cheapest bargain, players want the best deal, as showtime approaches gms will start to feel the heat, players will begin to panic, and the flood gates will open. everyone is in auction mode right now, the problem is they all (players and gms) think they are buyers.

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#38 Copper
August 20 2013, 09:05PM
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Gregor, for 2 years you've been promoting Hall for centre. Finally, you admit he is a power forward and best suited for wing. Nice change.

For a least as long, you've been saying Gagner is not an NHL centre man. Now?

Yes we need centre depth. 4-5. Very few teams have more than 2 quality centre men. That is why they're called 3 and 4 lines.

Size? RNH is 6'1". Gagner, 200 lbs. yet people consider them both small. If you can play, size doesn't matter. Does everyone expect 6'6" 240 lbs for anyone to play in th NHL? Get over it people. We had a winger like that and many couldn't wait to trade him to LA

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#39 RJ
August 20 2013, 11:54PM
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Finally! I've been waiting to see this article since the draft. MacT has been able to make some solid, long-term moves, but center depth has been a problem for years, and remains a problem.

Moving Hemsky to free up cap space is a nice idea, but I don't see it without a CoHo-type maneuver...play Hemsky on the first line, play him on the PP, give him an extended run with excellent zone starts, give him protected starts to get him rolling, and even then I don't know if he'd be able to regain his 2007 form so that someone would be willing to offer a player, pick or prospect for him.

In an ideal situation, one of the new D-men plays lights out enough to deal a Petry or Smid, and the need to trade Hemsky lessens. Belov was one of the top D-men in the KHL and is able to bring that across to Edmonton.

But realistically, they're stuck with who they have, and by Christmas we're talking about next year.

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#40 Harlie
August 20 2013, 09:43AM
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C'mon MacT...be bold. C is kinda an important position in hockey FWIW

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#41 JBFuzz
August 20 2013, 10:37AM
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I'm not sure the cap situation is all that dire, at least according to CapGeek. If they should somehow manage to acquire another centre it would mean moving Lander down to OKC, freeing up $900,000. There is also no way all 9 d-men currently on the roster will make the team, some a bit more cash will be freed up. The real problem as I see it is that outside of Grabovski, there aren't really any attractice UFA options. Making a trade will likely involve moving one large contract (Hemsky, N. Schulz) for another (Gaustad for example). I think the team is likely wary of taking on long-term $.

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#43 JBFuzz
August 20 2013, 11:24AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

The Oilers currently have $1.3 million in cap space counting 24 players. Take off Potter and that leaves them with $2.1 million. You won't get Grabovski for $2 million.

Plus you'd like some cap flexibility during the season. The Oilers don't have much room, especially for a bottom-tier team.

Agreed that Grabovski will certainly require more $ - I guess I should have been more clear that while he's the best option he's likely out of range.

Your point about the cap space is well taken, especially as I have a feeling this GM won't sit around and fiddle his thumbs if roster needs emerge due to injury or poor play. It was like Tambo took a nap between August and the trade deadline every year. I think MacT will be more active.

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#44 The Soup Fascist
August 20 2013, 11:26AM
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Sloppy Joe wrote:

And I accidentally referred to Gillis as Nonis - apologies.

Don't feel bad - no one can tell them apart. All bad GM's look alike. You put Nonis, Gillis, Tambo and Feaster in the room they all look virtually identical.

One just has more chins than the others.

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#45 Mikey
August 20 2013, 12:08PM
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All we can do is hope for another Justin Schultz in the form of a C, a hockey trade and bam we got C depth.....

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#46 jooks
August 20 2013, 12:09PM
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There's also a movie made based on The Long Walk called The Way Back. Great flick.

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#47 matt
August 20 2013, 12:10PM
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Having read Mikey's post, I forgot to consider that Eakins and Grabovski might have firm views about each other given their overlapping time in the Leafs organization.

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#48 justDOit
August 20 2013, 12:22PM
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FYI: Teams that want to 'bury' contracts in the minor leagues only receive cap relief of around $900K. So Hemsky to the Barons would still leave $4.1 of his salary on the Oilers' cap. That cap-circumvention loophole is closed.

Also, the window has closed this year for buying out contracts - so that option isn't available

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#49 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
August 20 2013, 12:38PM
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Grabovski sure is the best one, but problem is he already made it clear he's not a fan of being on the third line. What do you do when RNH is healthy?

Wellwood of Connolly might be better options. Guys that have something to prove.

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#50 The_CWD_GarbageMan
August 20 2013, 12:45PM
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It's no good for us to just trade for some mediocre, centre man with name recognition in order to "plug the hole". The Oil tried to do that before with Nylander and Gomez and thank Christ that never came to fruition. Hemsky has to be the one to go but they need to have patience and see if they can make a deal for a guy with actual upside and not some duster who can't play 200 feet. Maybe a guy like Brooks Laich?

Garbage man out.

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