2013-14 Pacific Division: Projected Standings

Jonathan Willis
August 21 2013 09:45AM

Over the last few weeks we’ve looked at the Edmonton Oilers’ new division. Now the pivotal question: will they snag one of the four playoff spots in this group?

The Contenders

1. Los Angeles Kings. The Kings are my choice for the top spot in the division; this team won the Cup in 2012 and went to the Conference Finals in 2013 and the roster hasn’t changed much. They fell down the standings last year thanks to an abnormally poor regular season from Jonathan Quick, and that isn’t likely to be repeated. They should be well clear of Edmonton.

2. Vancouver Canucks. This roster doesn’t look as good on paper as previous editions of the team, but the same stars are there up front and the defence might be the best in the Western Conference despite the lack of a superstar number one. A lot hinges on Roberto Luongo; the Canucks have gambled that after wanting to leave he’ll be able to come back and contribute at a high level. It’s a risk, but they’re probably right.

3. San Jose Sharks. This is a very good team; they’re smartly coached and smartly managed (given my choice of NHL general managers, there aren’t many I’d take ahead of Doug Wilson) and they have great depth and talent down the middle.

The Bubble

4. Anaheim Ducks. The loss of Sheldon Souray to injury and the addition of Mark Fistric on defence have changed the picture a little bit since our comparison, weakening the Ducks’ defence. This is a catchable team for the Oilers but not one I’d care to bet on Edmonton being ahead of.

5. Edmonton Oilers. We’ve analyzed Edmonton’s strengths and weaknesses to death this season. Up front they have solid top end talent but questionable depth, particularly at centre. On defence, they have exceptional depth but a dearth of proven top-two defencemen. Devan Dubnyk provides solid goaltending. Put it all together and this is a team on the bubble, one I have projected to be in the playoff race until the bitter end (though they could snatch a crossover spot in the Central). (Others feel more optimistic about the team's placement).

6. Phoenix Coyotes. A forward corps that leans too much on Mike Ribeiro and Shane Doan is the Coyotes’ primary weakness, and what might make them vulnerable to the Oilers this season. Any of the three teams listed here could snag that final playoff spot in my estimation; there isn’t a night-and-day difference between Anaheim and Edmonton and Phoenix.

The Cellar

7. Calgary Flames. The roster was gutted last season and it seems likely to take a few more vicious kicks in the lead up to the 2013-14 trade deadline. The forward group lacks top end talent, the defence is suspect and nobody knows who the starter is. Welcome to the rebuild.

Recently around the Nation Network

A new picture has been making the rounds in Winnipeg, one showing a much leaner version of defenceman Dustin Byfuglien. At Jets Nation, Travis Hrubeniuk writes about what Jets fans can expect from the oft-criticized defenceman:

I believe that he has the chance to be a truly successful top pairing D-man with the numbers to back it up, should a couple things happen. First, he needs some help in net. It's been the story for this team for years now. People refuse to believe that the Jets have been a solid defensive team with poor goaltending behind them, and choose to inaccurately accuse the blue line of inadequate play. Byfuglien may as well be the poster boy for this myth, as he and Enstrom are truly an effective top pairing duo.

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Jonathan Willis is Managing Editor of the Nation Network. He also currently writes for the Edmonton Journal's Cult of Hockey, Grantland, and Hockey Prospectus. His work has appeared at theScore, ESPN and Puck Daddy. He was previously founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue. Contact him at jonathan (dot) willis (at) live (dot) ca.
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#51 Darrell
August 21 2013, 11:21AM
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Darrell wrote:

Vancouver has a goalie that wanted out and folds in the first round every year. Your right again, nothing to worry about - Edmonton has all the problems.

Plus the fact Burrows and Kesler are total douche bags and am sure you can relate. start your own blog and move on dude ... I would read it for the sheer enjoyment of folks picking it apart like you do on OILERSNATION - you could prob charge as we would pay to se it ...

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#52 Mantastic
August 21 2013, 11:35AM
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DSF wrote:

Really?

Last season they had Kesler, Booth, Malhotra, Bieksa and Tanev all miss significant time with injuries and managed to finish with the 6th most points in the entire NHL.

With Kesler in the lineup, taking the hard matchups, the Sedins get a lot more room to score.

I wouldn't count them out.

look at the Canucks corsi with and without Kesler in the line up last year and get back to me thanks.

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#53 ed in edmonton
August 21 2013, 01:11PM
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The Willis analysis is quite reasonable.

The key to Oil success this year will be:

1. RNH- Needs to play like a No.1 center. Assuming he plays in 70 games will need 60 points

2. Need another center- maybe the most likely scenario is trading one of their many depth defensemen (say Nick Schultz) for a serviceable center. MacT needs to look for a dance partner that has some depth at C but none at D (Colorado?).

3. One of the Oil D need to make the progression to a true top pairing playing. Most likely candidates are Petry/ J. Schultz.

If say 2 out of 3 pan out Oil will contend for a spot.

Grabo in cowtown would certainly improve the Flames. However likely only to make a 13th place team into an 11th place team. If the Flames do sign him, I suggest that they still aren't committed to the rebuild.

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#54 bornnraisedoil
August 21 2013, 05:20PM
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Just say in'... all oil fans are great,the world over, but the truest of all are born and raised an work...in beautiful, incomparable... Edmonton...here we go oilers here we go! Nuge-hall-yak...magic follows.

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#55 OilClog
August 21 2013, 09:00PM
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DSF wrote:

Feel free to use any stats you like to support your fantasies.

I've got all night.

Fancy Stats.. Even with going for it Year after Year for the last 7 years.. Vancouver has acquired an astonishing total of 0 Stanley cups.. Let me repeat myself, the same total of the previous 34 years was met in just 7! 0 Stanley cups, Keslar Sucks, Sedins Suck, Gillis Sucks, Minnesota Sucks.

Good Grief

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#56 madjam
August 22 2013, 12:55AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Great another DSF comment section.Takes the joy out of reading the comments.

I rather enjoy reading DSFs insight in the comments . Sometimes having good debates with opposing opinions is better than a herd of people all nodding in agreement at the same thing .

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#57 Clyde Frog
August 22 2013, 09:02AM
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DSF trundles back to his computer bleary eyed but feeling triumphant!

He had rushed his nightly ritual of washing mother and had seen his weekly allowance cut in half as a result... But it had been worth it! He had freed himself up to crush the hopes and dreams of Oiler fans on the internet!!

Besides after 47 years he had saved up enough of his allowances to float himself through leans weeks like this. That and mother had recently restocked his cabinet of Cheeto's and Dr.P...

Sitting down at his desk, pausing briefly to pray at his Gillis shrine, he sets to work..

Before the satisfied chuckle could escape his lips, the reality of the last several posts sets in. How could these fools still cheer for the team?

He had posted several compelling arguments backed up by minutes of Googling! Yet these fools still dare to dream! This will not stand!!!

Mixing equal parts Cheeto and Dr.P in a bowl he gently stirs the concoction until it becomes the nourishing paste that will sustain him through the morning and into the afternoon. He will need the time and energy to devise new statistics backed up by new googlings to irrevocably prove that the Oilers are the worst team in the league and to crush absolutely the dreams of an entire fanbase.

A mad gleam enters his eyes and he begins to laugh maniacally, "muwhahahaHAHHAHAHAHA!" Well at least until mother yelled downstairs threatening the other half of his allowance unless he respected the silence rule while her stories are on.

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#58 DSF
August 21 2013, 10:28AM
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Mantastic wrote:

i really don't think Vancouver will make it top 2 due to their equally poor depth in every position. they don't have enough actual NHL talent to fill out their roster to begin with and being an older team playing under Torts, they'll be digging deep for players to fill in for injuries. and those depth players are complete garbage.

At what position are they "lacking depth?

Their goaltending is fine.

Their D is one of the best in the NHL.

LW: Sedin, Booth, Higgins, Sestito, Shinkaruk

RW: Burrows, Hansen, Kassian, Weise

C: Sedin, Kesler, Richardson, Shroeder, Gaunce, Horvat, Lain

There are some question marks at C since it appears the Canucks are hoping one of Gaunce or Horvat can grab the #3C spot so they can move Richardson to wing but they're in far better shape than last season when they had to play the first 31 games without Kesler.

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#59 OilersAreAwesome14
August 21 2013, 10:31AM
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@mr common sense

Hanzal and Vermette are good #3 Centers. But just look at their forwards not good enough. Oilers only real problem is their bottom 6 but someone can step up from their system to improve that. They will not "easily" make the playoffs. They could but it's not a smooth ride bro

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#60 Rama Lama
August 21 2013, 10:39AM
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In spite of the skill difference between Calgary and Edmonton..........I'm thinking Calgary will surprise a few people.

If Sean Monohan makes the team ( all indications are he will) this will give them a definite advantage. I say they will give us a run for our money and may finish ahead of us.

Without Nuge starting the season.......our lines will be all mixed up with players playing out of position. This is a recipe for disaster, followed up by the Nuge returning and re-calibrating the lines once again, and then waiting for the momentum to carry us.

If we have a losing record to start the season........it will be a long season to try and play catch-up. Maybe next year will be the breakout season we have all been waiting for?

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#61 DSF
August 21 2013, 03:15PM
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Mantastic wrote:

you are awful. you compare a players prorated stats of 17 games last year to a player stats over a year ago.

and you wonder why no one takes you seriously.

Well, since you want to compare someone coming off an injury to someone who had a chance to play in the AHL during the lockout and was healthy...

Taylor Hall's PP production in 45 games last season was 4G and 14P.

That pro rates to 8 goals and 25 points.

Compared to Kesler's 10 goals and 21 points.

How do you think the Oilers PP would have fared if Hall missed 31 games last season?

Seriously?

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#62 Spydyr
August 21 2013, 09:10PM
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With the present rooster I don't see the Oilers finishing in the top eight in the west.Just don't see it.

Now with a few moves like a legit, complete 2C and one more top four defenseman they might slip in.

The team still needs a true number one defenseman but that will cost one of the kids and this is not the year to make that deal.Give it another season or two when they should be a playoff contender(given more right moves than wrong moves) then pull the trigger for the defenseman needed to bring the Cup back here.

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#63 Big Cap
August 22 2013, 02:04AM
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RE: Post #80

@ Reg Dunlop

Classy!

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#64 Wigswag
August 21 2013, 10:17AM
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@DSF

Replace Colorado and Nashville with Winnipeg and you are closer. Love the cross over option.

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#65 mr common sense
August 21 2013, 10:23AM
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why is everyone underestimating Phoenix? they will be unreal, ribeiro is a legit #1C and Hanzal can now slip to #2 and Vermette #3. Ekman-Larsson is a year better and Mike Smith will be posting shuouts every other game behind Tippet's system. Write it down, Phoenix will easily make the playoffs. The Oil are in trouble...they do not match up well in this new division.

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#66 Will
August 21 2013, 10:57AM
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If I learned anything last year it's that predictions are tough. I maybe got one or two right in terms of order. Now with the realigned divisions, it only gets harder. Who knew Anaheim was going to have the season they did last year? Who saw the Kings goal tending letting them down all regular season long? Who new Nashville was going to be so bad without Sutter? Actually I did call that one as they have nothing up front for scoring and Rinne is not as good as everyone thinks he is.

Anyway, my point is that all it takes is a significant injury, or an off season for a goalie to really change the fortunes of a team. I would say for Edmonton to make the playoffs, a lot has to break their way. First and foremost is that Ferrence has to provide some steady and solid defence. Second is one of Belov, Grebbie, Phillips, or perhaps Klefbomb has to come out of nowhere and be our diamond in the rough. If those two things can happen, I think we have a shot.

If on top of that our stars stay healthy and our second line is able to click, then maybe we got a playoff shot.

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#67 Will
August 21 2013, 06:27PM
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The Canucks do kind of seem to be falling apart as a team. You have a goalie that doesn't want to be there, and a room full of guys who don't seem to generate chemistry outside of the sisters.

However, I said it looked like everyone in Anaheim wanted out last year and that would hurt them, look how well that one turned out.

No, what is going to hurt the Canucks the most, is that fact they can no longer suck points out of an easy division. With LA, San Jose, Anaheim, and Phoenix playing like they did last year, it might be tough for Van to generate as many points. If Quick has another crap regular season, there may be more bubble teams in our division than people think. Just look how tight the West was for most of the season last year. Other than Calgary, I would say every team has a chance to beat any other team in the division on any given night.

It will also be interesting having the Eastern Conference points back in the mix. I wonder if that drastically shakes up the standings from last year, or makes it even more competitive in our division.

Here's a question, given how bad Philly and the Rangers did last year, and given how bad a stacked Pens team did in the playoffs, do you still think the Metropolitan division is the most competitive? If not which one now is and why?

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#68 Ummm...
August 21 2013, 07:45PM
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@DSF

At least in Anaheim's case, pretty much everybody not working for CBC expect them to regress this season. They were one of the most fortunate teams in the league last year. I could see all of SJ, VAN, and ANA regressing next year.

VAN because their horses are a year older and they've got little else.

SJ for the same reason, though they do have a true young star in Couture. Pavelski took steps toward invisibility in the second half of last year (to the detriment of my fantasy team) and their D isn't that great.

ANA because they had the 2nd best PDO in the league behind the Leafs. Their performance last year was a lot of smoke and mirrors as far as I'm concerned.

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#69 DonDon
August 21 2013, 09:02PM
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Others feel less optimistic about the Oilers' placement due to a number of factors:

1) MacT stands pat at centre (critical); 2) How long before Nugent-Hopkins returns, which could excerbate an already critical situation at the centre position; 3) Lack of complementary players that make the Oilers more difficult to play against (weakness of bottom six forwards); 4) MacT's inability to move Hemsky's $5.5 M contract has left the club in a cap squeeze limiting the addition of any quality players to fill holes now; 5) A rookie head coach (competency?).

Depending the resolutions of the above factors, the Oilers could either make the playoffs after seven consecutive misses or join Calgary at the bottom of the totem pole and again become a lottery team.

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#70 Ales Hallsky
August 21 2013, 09:28PM
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Kesler: 350pts 578gp. Hallsy: 145pts 171gp. One has to do it all himself and the other benefits from a team who is a perennial presidents trophy contender. I'll let you figure it out. 0 cups in 40+

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#71 Ari Gold
August 22 2013, 08:44AM
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Looking at the division, I think it's safe to bet the Oil will finish 4-5, 6 being a complete disaster. I'd say the true wild card of this division is the Canucks.

The Sedins are in a contract year, but I doubt that'll suddenly remove the baby fat. Kesler is perpetually injured but gets 2nd line matches, he could bounce back, I think he won't. Booth, Kassian and Burrows all took a nap at season's end and into the playoffs. They all seem like the kind of 2-way players that Torts could ignite, though I hope that doesn't happen.

The Nucks D is solid though a couple injuries could expose a lack of depth. Torts does make instant impacts though he's never coached in such a fickle city with an ignorant fan base.

I think the Canucks could be anywhere from missing the playoffs (which would be beautiful) to winning the division. Thoughts DSF? Hockey is much more dynamic than pulling previous years statistics from a small sample size. We all know your bias but you have yet to truly embrace the uncertainty of your own team. Nuck fans are like the S&P 500 begging for another round of QE, unfortunately in your books that's only a President's Trophy.

The Canucks will not win the Stanley Cup this year, easy prediction.. Lou can't play in the playoffs, D-depth is an issue and I'm not impressed with Booth, Kassian and Burrows in the top 6.

DSF, the ball is in your court....

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#72 ed in edmonton
August 21 2013, 02:31PM
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OilersAreAwesome14 wrote:

Flames doesn't need Grabovski. They have Monahan, Stajan, Backlund and Reinhart. I think Grabovski signs with Anaheim

You're joking, right?

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#73 DSF
August 21 2013, 02:47PM
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Mantastic wrote:

look at the Canucks corsi with and without Kesler in the line up last year and get back to me thanks.

Okay.

Daniel Sedin's Corsi ON last season was +24.71.

Henrik's was +22.84

Their Corsi Rel was 30.7 and 28.7 respectively.

By way of contrast, Jordan Eberle led the Oilers with a Corsi ON of +3.47 while Taylor Hall was second at 2.79.

Their Corsi Rel was 21.9 and 20.3 respectively.

(Kesler only played 17 out of 48 games)

Are you sure you want to discuss this in public?

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#74 DSF
August 21 2013, 07:00PM
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Will wrote:

The Canucks do kind of seem to be falling apart as a team. You have a goalie that doesn't want to be there, and a room full of guys who don't seem to generate chemistry outside of the sisters.

However, I said it looked like everyone in Anaheim wanted out last year and that would hurt them, look how well that one turned out.

No, what is going to hurt the Canucks the most, is that fact they can no longer suck points out of an easy division. With LA, San Jose, Anaheim, and Phoenix playing like they did last year, it might be tough for Van to generate as many points. If Quick has another crap regular season, there may be more bubble teams in our division than people think. Just look how tight the West was for most of the season last year. Other than Calgary, I would say every team has a chance to beat any other team in the division on any given night.

It will also be interesting having the Eastern Conference points back in the mix. I wonder if that drastically shakes up the standings from last year, or makes it even more competitive in our division.

Here's a question, given how bad Philly and the Rangers did last year, and given how bad a stacked Pens team did in the playoffs, do you still think the Metropolitan division is the most competitive? If not which one now is and why?

1) No one including the Oilers will be able to "suck points" out of an easy division. The Canucks were 6-7-2 against the Pacific last season. The Oilers were 4-8-3.

2) Eastern Conference games will be equal for all teams so won't be a factor.

3) I think the Pacific will be the most competitive since San Jose, LA, Vancouver and Anaheim were all playoff teams last year and none of them seems ready for a regression.

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#75 DSF
August 21 2013, 08:09PM
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@Ummm...

Anaheim finished 21 points ahead of the Oilers in a 48 game season. Pro-rated over 82 games that is 38 points.

Just to draw even, there would have to be some combination of 17 wins/losses. I doubt Anaheim was that lucky.

Suggesting Vancouver has "little else" than the Sedins is just nonsense.

For example, 27 year old Jannik Hansen, playing 3rd line minutes, scored 27 points last season.

His P/60 5V5 was 2.32...better than any Oiler not named Hall.

Vancouver has traditionally relied in its D for secondary scoring. And that will continue.

Last season, defensive stalwart Dan Hamhuis had as many points as Justin Schultz, while Edler, Garrison and Bieksa outscored their Oiler counterparts by a wide margin. (The second highest scoring Oiler D was Jeff Petry with 12 points)

People have been predicting the decline of the Sharks for years and it just never happens.

They are a solid team from top to bottom and their GM may be the smartest in the league.

Their D is far from suspect. They were 6th in the entire league in GA/G last season at 2.33. The Oilers gave up .40 more GA/G which pro rated over and 982 game season is 32 goals against.

That's a very tough mountain to climb in one season.

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#76 Reg Dunlop
August 22 2013, 01:25AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Great another DSF comment section.Takes the joy out of reading the comments.

DSF claims he's got 'all night'. This is the root of the problem and I have the solution. Send a prostitute to his basement apartment on Van Island, keep him busy for awhile. Anyone know any male hookers?

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#77 russ99
August 22 2013, 07:49AM
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We still don't have a playoff-quality bottom six, and few (if any) of our bottom six players can shut down the big, tough key players in our division.

So I'm picking the Oilers 5th, behind LA, San Jose, Vancouver and Phoenix. But we may sneak into the playoffs at the expense of the team placing 4th in the Central Division.

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#78 Ari Gold
August 22 2013, 11:11AM
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@DSF

The hopes in Torts are valid but still an 'if' albeit a probable one. You're right about Torts and the young'uns but I'd have reservations about considering them a division contender from the past few years results. The big names on this team may simply be those guys that don't know how to get it done when it counts. Call it a lack of heart, call it AV's inability to rally the dressing room. I'd suggest that it's management ignoring the elephants in the room and knowing when to file for divorce.

The Oil are trending upward with the slow but sure maturation process. The Canucks have stagnated at best with a trend downward as recent success would suggest. Will Torts be better than AV? The Rangers didn't think so. I guess we'll find out.

I think this team was modelled for AV's style, not Torts'. Living in Van, I'll be watching attentively, and vindictively. Waiting to call out, once again, Nuck fans' delusional optimism.

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#79 Quicksilver ballet
August 21 2013, 11:47AM
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Rama Lama wrote:

In spite of the skill difference between Calgary and Edmonton..........I'm thinking Calgary will surprise a few people.

If Sean Monohan makes the team ( all indications are he will) this will give them a definite advantage. I say they will give us a run for our money and may finish ahead of us.

Without Nuge starting the season.......our lines will be all mixed up with players playing out of position. This is a recipe for disaster, followed up by the Nuge returning and re-calibrating the lines once again, and then waiting for the momentum to carry us.

If we have a losing record to start the season........it will be a long season to try and play catch-up. Maybe next year will be the breakout season we have all been waiting for?

Kinda like to see this happen. Turn that friggin burner on high under this management group.

Keep firing coaches and GM's till your hearts content Kevin.

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#80 DSF
August 21 2013, 08:54PM
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OilClog wrote:

DSF, the suggestion that Taylor Hall and Ryan Keslar are on the same Offensive level, especially on the PP.. is well, exactly something you would say.

Good Grief.

Other than the fact that they are on the same level.

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#81 DSF
August 22 2013, 10:01AM
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Ari Gold wrote:

Looking at the division, I think it's safe to bet the Oil will finish 4-5, 6 being a complete disaster. I'd say the true wild card of this division is the Canucks.

The Sedins are in a contract year, but I doubt that'll suddenly remove the baby fat. Kesler is perpetually injured but gets 2nd line matches, he could bounce back, I think he won't. Booth, Kassian and Burrows all took a nap at season's end and into the playoffs. They all seem like the kind of 2-way players that Torts could ignite, though I hope that doesn't happen.

The Nucks D is solid though a couple injuries could expose a lack of depth. Torts does make instant impacts though he's never coached in such a fickle city with an ignorant fan base.

I think the Canucks could be anywhere from missing the playoffs (which would be beautiful) to winning the division. Thoughts DSF? Hockey is much more dynamic than pulling previous years statistics from a small sample size. We all know your bias but you have yet to truly embrace the uncertainty of your own team. Nuck fans are like the S&P 500 begging for another round of QE, unfortunately in your books that's only a President's Trophy.

The Canucks will not win the Stanley Cup this year, easy prediction.. Lou can't play in the playoffs, D-depth is an issue and I'm not impressed with Booth, Kassian and Burrows in the top 6.

DSF, the ball is in your court....

I'd say that's a pretty decent analysis but the only way I see them missing the playoffs is if a lot of things go wrong.

One factor you haven't addressed is the team's management insisting that they will be going all out to try and insert some youth into their lineup.

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/vancouver-canucks/Putting+Johnny+spot/8818161/story.html

With Kassian getting a more prominent role and with Niklas Jensen, Brendan Gaunce, Bo Horvat, Kellan Lain and others pushing for spots, the team might look quite a bit different than last season.

How well that strategy works out is, of course, an unknown but Tortorella has a pretty strong track record of getting production out of young players.

Derek Stepan, Carl Hagelin, Ryan McDonagh and Ryan Callaghan all thrived under Tortorella.

I think the major reason behind his hiring was his willingness to work with young players, something Vigneault didn't have the patience for.

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#82 Robert Vollman
August 21 2013, 10:46AM
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I think you've got it bang on Jonathan.

Except maybe Phoenix. You've got them in the right loose group, but I'd have them at the higher end of it.

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#83 DSF
August 21 2013, 03:09PM
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Mantastic wrote:

am i wrong? Canucks with Kesler had worse corsi than without him.

and why are you comparing them to the Oilers? a team that was heavily outshot, period? earth shattering news, players on a team that gets outshot has worse corsi than a team that doesn't get outshot!!!!

LIkely, but I don't know how to separate that.

In an event, Kesler only played 17 games and their season long Corsi was still through the roof.

As for your last point, this whole series has been about comparing the Oilers to the other teams in the Pacific.

If you don't like the facts, doesn't mean they didn't happen.

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#84 DSF
August 21 2013, 08:55PM
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Mantastic wrote:

you're just cherry picking stats/seasons that suits your arguments.

Feel free to use any stats you like to support your fantasies.

I've got all night.

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#85 OilClog
August 21 2013, 09:07PM
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DonDon wrote:

Others feel less optimistic about the Oilers' placement due to a number of factors:

1) MacT stands pat at centre (critical); 2) How long before Nugent-Hopkins returns, which could excerbate an already critical situation at the centre position; 3) Lack of complementary players that make the Oilers more difficult to play against (weakness of bottom six forwards); 4) MacT's inability to move Hemsky's $5.5 M contract has left the club in a cap squeeze limiting the addition of any quality players to fill holes now; 5) A rookie head coach (competency?).

Depending the resolutions of the above factors, the Oilers could either make the playoffs after seven consecutive misses or join Calgary at the bottom of the totem pole and again become a lottery team.

MacT has only made 9,001,873,345,348,056.24 moves so far this offseason.. yea.. no belief he will do anything more at all.. none what so ever.. I bet he's having a nap, then will follow that with a Hot Cocoa and another nap.. because he's been sitting on his hands.. awaiting Stevie Y's phone call.. cause well.. that's what he's been doing..

Good Grief, it's an angry no sex senior's morgue around here.

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#86 Spydyr
August 21 2013, 09:12PM
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OilClog wrote:

MacT has only made 9,001,873,345,348,056.24 moves so far this offseason.. yea.. no belief he will do anything more at all.. none what so ever.. I bet he's having a nap, then will follow that with a Hot Cocoa and another nap.. because he's been sitting on his hands.. awaiting Stevie Y's phone call.. cause well.. that's what he's been doing..

Good Grief, it's an angry no sex senior's morgue around here.

The general managers should be back from their cottages the next week or two.Things will start happening again.The dog days of summer are almost over.

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#87 Oiltimer
August 22 2013, 09:12AM
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TOO MANY IFs to be even on the bubble unless they all come out positive.

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#88 Pucker
August 22 2013, 05:01PM
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I miss hockey season.

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#89 **
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reading about the Calgary flames it feels like an out of body experience, to see a rebuild from the other side of the mirror.

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#90 **
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Jonathan, would the addition of another quality bottom six center be enough to leap the Oilers over the coyotes and ducks?

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#91 OilersAreAwesome14
August 21 2013, 01:15PM
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Flames doesn't need Grabovski. They have Monahan, Stajan, Backlund and Reinhart. I think Grabovski signs with Anaheim

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#92 DSF
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

The Canucks were 18th in goals last year. They lost two offensive players in Raymond and Roy - and added no one. The Sedins are 33 and have hard miles on them. Kesler has yet to show the same pre-injury form from 2 years ago. How Booth never got bought out is a complete mystery to me. Although Ballard was even more abyssmal a signing and had to be dealt with.

I just don't see where the goals are coming from.

While I understand the Sedins are in the last year of their contract and are very motivated, the offensive production of players (not named Teemu Selanne / Martin St. Louis) start to deteriorate pretty rapidly, right about ..... now.

Top 4 is solid on D, with little depth and the (only) goalie is a guy the organization has tried to tie a can to for 18 months. It may not be this year - though I suspect that Torts could expedite things - but I see a steep fall for the Canucks in the near future. I don't see 2nd in the division.

The Canucks downward trend in scoring was mainly attibutable to 2 things:

1) Kesler missing most of the season allowing the opposition to key on the Sedins.

2) Their PP went from 1st in the league in 2011/12 (19.8%) to 22nd in the league (15.8%) Much of that is also due to Kesler's absence since he plays with the Sedin's on the #1 unit.

In only 17 games upon his return from injury, Kesler scored 2 PPG and 5PPP which pro-rates to 10 goals and 24 points...just on the PP.

In the last full season, Taylor Hall led the Oilers with 13 goals and 21 points on the PP.

If Kesler stays healthy and the Canucks PP returns to top 5, they should once again be among the highest scoring teams in the league.

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#93 OutDoorRink
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Hey hey hey everyone. Give old dsf a break. I really need him to continue posting. I'm using his comments as a source material for my study of Enuresis.

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#94 THRNHJE
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@OutDoorRink

Not sure how his posts are in any way related to his prowess in controlling urinary function.

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