FINDING THE SECOND SEASON

Lowetide
August 25 2013 11:53AM

I picked the Oilers to make the post-season in yesterday's Crystal Ball item, and have had a few emails and dm's asking about my reasoning. I have three main reasons--after the break.

DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH

Just like this baby turtle, the young Oilers--including three #1 overalls--are getting bigger and stronger all the time. Taylor Hall was pushing the river right out of the wrapping, and the other two are coming along as well. Here's what an impact player looks like, by age:

  • Taylor Hall 5x5/60 at age 19: 1.78
  • Taylor Hall 5x5/60 at age 20: 2.07
  • Taylor Hall 5x5/60 at age 21: 3.15 (6th in entire NHL)

Also, Hall's shot differential was in the black, one of three forwards (Ebs, Nuge) who could boast a positive CorsiOn from one year ago. I'm betting Hall

  • plays more this season, more 5x5 and 5x4
  • posts a strong offensive season (70, 37-45)

I think that's reasonable.

BETTER BLUE TO SHOULDER THE LOAD

I try not to confuse the issue with too many advanced stats, in my opinion most of the stuff we talk about can be seen with the human eye. Like Larry King--who didn't research to prep for interviews--you don't have to dig deep into advanced stats in order to know that one of these things doesn't belong:

Ryan Whitney--still out of work--was facing soft parade opps with reasonable help and getting crushed. Of the 210 NHL defensemen who played 20 or more games last season, Whitney ranked #208 overall (ahead of Buffalo's Mike Weber and Toronto's Korbinian Holzer) in Corsi On.

Craig MacTavish replaced Whitney (and Fistric) with Andrew Ference, Phil Larsen, Anton Belov, Denis Grebeshkov and possibly Oscar Klefbom.

Seems like an obvious upgrade. Right? No disrespect to Whitney--healthy, he'd be well clear of pretty much everyone on the list. However, there were issues, and those issues impacted the defensive sorties of the Edmonton Oilers in 2012-13.

Reasonable to suggest that the team will improve in this area in 2013-14.

SYSTEMS

This is really good stuff, but you have to be better than Larry King to get it (I'm trying!). Tyler Dellow's Big Oilers Data series is an ongoing look at what the hell happened last season, a year in which the Oilers shot differential went south in a big way compared to their own past.

Tyler focused on the 2line, specifically Sam Gagner and Ales Hemsky, and their very bad time of it. The 12th article is here, I highly recommend reading all of them. The line below relates specifically to what happened with 89-83 after an OFFENSIVE ZONE FACEOFF WIN!

  • The weird thing is that Hemsky and Gagner completely went in the toilet this year following OZ wins. Gagner went from a 65.7% Corsi% to a 55.2% Corsi%. Hemsky fell from 66.7% to 54.5%.

I've spoken to Tyler several times on this point, and he's been narrowing it down to a 'systems' glitch that seems to surround a coaching decision about what to do after an offensive zone faceoff win. Krueger's system(s) seemed to result in possession, but with all three forwards in a very confined area--with very few options.

Fascinating stuff. And if Tyler's right--this was a Krueger creation--then returning to a more traditional NHL scheme (which seems likely) should provide an offensive uptick for that 2line (which should have an added offensive element in David Perron).

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

Part of the improvement will be the kids growing up, part of it will be improved quality and depth on the blueline, and part of it will be strategy improved.

Playoffs? PLAYOFFS?

Yes. I believe so.

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#51 Harry
August 25 2013, 11:12PM
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@Harry

My personal opinion is that you know nothing about playing the game and are nothing but a stat geek.

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#52 MessyEH!
August 26 2013, 02:46AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

We have to give credit where it's due. DSF brings truth/reality to the Oilers situation on a daily basis.

A guy who cares this much about our hockey team, deep down inside, is very much an Oiler fan just like the rest of us. He takes his share of heat here no doubt, but the stuff he mentions is much closer to fact, than fiction.

Keep it coming high, hard and inside DSF. Saw your critics off at the fists, break their friggen hands.

I am in agreement with DSF on a lot of his comments. Imho he is the anti-fanboy unfortunately he appears to be drinking the Vancouver water and it's clouded his judgement.

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#53 Oilbaron
August 26 2013, 04:12AM
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DSF wrote:

Why exactly, do you think Minnesota is a joke?

Be specific.

Sorry if I had more time in my day to parade Oilers blog sites I would have replied sooner.

I will be really specific. Signing Zach Parizeeee and Ryan Suter to the most outrageous contracts ever seen (IMO) as if they are the second coming of ... well I dunno who.

Good luck EVER winning a stanley cup with those contracts. Seriously. Never ever ever ever ever gonna happen. hahahahahahahahahahahah

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#54 yawto
August 25 2013, 12:01PM
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>Oops I accidentally double fisted.. Edit

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#55 DSF
August 25 2013, 02:17PM
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DSF wrote:

"1. Chicago 2. St.Louis 3. Edmonton ;) 4. San Jose 5. Nashville 6. Colorado 7. LA 8. Minnesota 9. Vancouver 10. Anahiem 11. Phoenix 12. Dallas 13. Winnipeg 14. Calgary

Your post is as confused as you seem to be.

Who is finishing 15th?

No, we haven't spoken in a while :)

But he is skating in Anaheim and I'm sure he's not doing it for his health.

Apparently he wants to be guaranteed a top 6 role and, if it were me, I would give it to him.

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#56 MessyEH!
August 25 2013, 04:14PM
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1)kings 2)Sharks 3)Oilers 4)Canucks 5)Coyotes 6)Ducks 7)Flames

This is how I picture the Division playing out. Biggest losers Ducks. Biggest Winners Oilers. Canucks get a wildcard slot. (The Canucks have some ??? On the year. I see Them as Calgary 4 years ago. Aging team. One or two injuries away from not making the post season.)

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#57 G Money
August 25 2013, 07:51PM
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If we harken back a moment to last year (pre lockout) playoff predictions, my personal thought back then was that the Oilers playoff hopes hinged around four questions:

- Hall's health - would he be back in time (and consequently, would he be good, and would he stay healthy)

- Whitney's health - would a summer of rehab and training allow him to be a top-pairing D again, as he was for 35 games at the start of his Oiler career

- Dubie's goaltending - could he provide NHL-calibre goaltending for an entire season?

- Would Ralphie be able to continue the improvement trend started by Renney?

The answers of course were, Hell Yes, Hell No, Yes, and No. The end result: no playoffs, and a team that finished higher, primarily due to better goaltending, but looked worse everywhere else on the ice vs the previous year.

This years playoff questions are:

- RNH's health - when will he be back - specifically, how many games will he miss? I have no doubt that when he comes back healthy he'll be all-world, but the main question will be, how much will the Oilers suffer while he's out, and when he comes back, can he then stay healthy.

- D depth - will Ference/Belov/Grebs/Potter be a measurable improvement over Whitney/Potter/Fistric/Peckham?

- 3L - can Joensuu be a capable 3L? If he does, our third line (J, G, H) looks like it will finally stop the bleeding from last year, and also pushes Smyth and Jones back to fourth line, where they should prove competent. If Smyth or Jones are on the third line - ouch.

- 4C - can Lander prove to be a capable 4C?

If the answer to the questions is: first one more than 10 games, or the answer to any of the other three is 'no', then I can't see it happening.

Right now, I think it's too much to ask - c'mon MacT, find the cap room and sign a capable 3L and 4C FFS - and I'm preparing/predicting for another year out of the playoffs.

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#58 The_CWD_GarbageMan
August 26 2013, 04:01PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

We have to give credit where it's due. DSF brings truth/reality to the Oilers situation on a daily basis.

A guy who cares this much about our hockey team, deep down inside, is very much an Oiler fan just like the rest of us. He takes his share of heat here no doubt, but the stuff he mentions is much closer to fact, than fiction.

Keep it coming high, hard and inside DSF. Saw your critics off at the fists, break their friggen hands.

If it wasn't for "DSF" or "Quicksilver ballet" ... I don't think the "trash-it" button would ever get clicked.

So thank you two for keeping the lights on at CWD and turning our marketing idea into a success. If it wasn't for the two of you the "trash-it" button would be obsolete.

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#59 DSF
August 25 2013, 02:14PM
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OilClog wrote:

1. Yes, the Kings will need to figure out how to score, or they'll be left battling for 8th. The Ducks are not that good, their quick 1st round exit showed several flaws, they rode a hot start to the season that wouldn't of held up over 82games. Canucks have so much drama, questions, and doubt that they could just implode. The writing is on the wall for that team. San Jose, again needs to hope their hot start carries them. Another fizzle down the drain for them. ALL OF THESE TEAMS ARE FLAWED! All are beatable. Oilers very well could clear half of them.

2. Phoenix replaced their 3rd line center with.. They don't have the forwards to compete. Tippet is a master, but it's going to be a rough go for them. Doan is not a 1st line anything.

3. Yes, Oilers have better high end talent then all said teams. Thus, with the right system in place, will crush lower end talents.

4. Dallas? Seguin.. Would be our #3 center.. actually 4th as Gordon would be the checker role. Horcoff.. really bud? ummm.. Peverly.. Ok. World beaters.

5. Eakins will tear Roy apart, Colorado has tons of Potential, but if we're talking potential.. Edmonton's top 6 include.. Three #1 overalls, Eberle, Perron, Gagner, oh and one Ales Hemsky. If the Oilers D corps also live up to their potential.. Well.. This could be the rivalry for the next 10years and no reason both these teams can't make room for themselves.

6. The Jets can get use to the western conference for a season. They're not going to be a strong force.

7. Ribiero.. AKA. DSF's new Wellwood.

8. Minnesota's rookies are nothing compared to the young class in Edmonton, any attempt to suggest that the emergence of a different teams young talent will trump Edmonton's is well, Ridiculous. Cooke.. Eager? Pominville.. Meh.. Ballard.. Blum.. World beaters.

9. 1. Chicago 2. St.Louis 3. Edmonton ;) 4. San Jose 5. Nashville 6. Colorado 7. LA 8. Minnesota 9. Vancouver 10. Anahiem 11. Phoenix 12. Dallas 13. Winnipeg 14. Calgary

Good Grief

"1. Chicago 2. St.Louis 3. Edmonton ;) 4. San Jose 5. Nashville 6. Colorado 7. LA 8. Minnesota 9. Vancouver 10. Anahiem 11. Phoenix 12. Dallas 13. Winnipeg 14. Calgary

Your post is as confused as you seem to be.

Who is finishing 15th?

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#60 DSF
August 25 2013, 03:31PM
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Woodguy wrote:

14 teams in the West.

Yeah, I know.

His post was edited afterward.

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#61 DSF
August 25 2013, 04:57PM
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MessyEH! wrote:

The Oilers and Canucks seem to be were we disagree. I see the Oilers improving in alot of key areas, and the Canucks have not improved their team.Their stars have there best years behind them.

The Oilers do need to restock the forward depth. Something that can be done at the trade deadline.

Do you think the Oilers can finish ahead of the Canucks?

A lot of folks forget that Kesler is the straw that stirs that drink.

Now that he is fully healthy and will have the benefit of a training camp, watch for the Canucks to make a major upswing.

He only played 18 games last season and because he wasn't facing the toughs, the Sedins production faltered. That will change.

Kesler is also a huge component of Vancouver's PP and it's no coincidence that it dropped from 1st to 22nd in his absence.

Vancouver will also be looking at a better season from Kassian as well as hoping that Brendan Gaunce or Bo Horvat can play #3C.

They also added Brad Richardson as C insurance so they can avoid a situation like last year when they had to use Andrew Ebbett in that position.

Vancouver has solid goaltending, a great defensive core and should get back to being one of the highest scoring teams in the league if their PP recovers.

With noting that even with all their injuries last season: Kesler, Booth, Bieksa. they still managed to finish 14 points ahead of the Oilers.

That's a pretty big gap to make up.

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#62 DonDon
August 25 2013, 05:20PM
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It certainly promises to be another interesting year for the Oil. There is a big difference of opinion by posters on the Oilers' outcome as to playoffs.

Some of us hope that MacT wakes up from his deep sleep and fixes holes on forward before the season begins, starting at centre. But where are the bodies to fill the holes? Coming from Oklahoma? UFAs?

Please, let the games begin.

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#63 DSF
August 25 2013, 08:23PM
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Woodguy wrote:

I think you are over rating Ribero.

At 5v5 he scored 1.88pts/60, tied for 110th in the NHL.

Decent for a 2C, but not a 1C, especially given that he played with Ovechkin all year. (who scored at 2.3pt/60)

All Ribero's points came on the PP,(9.13pts/60 1st in NHL) again with Ovechkin, and he won't have near the PP in PHX, than he did in WAS.

He previous 2 seasons in DAL had him scoring 4.11pts/60 and 4.22pts/60 on 5v4.

That's with more talent than PHX will have on the PP.

McPhee was smart to let him go, and Malony usually never misses a beat, but a 4 year contract for Ribero will haunt him here with Ribero turning 34 in Feb.

He'll push Vermette down the depth chart, but its not great.

Ribero, Vermette, Hanzal don't hold a candle to RNH, Gagner, Gordon.

Ribero is basically Gagner with less historical success on 5v4 except last year's crazy year for him.

That being said, its a Tippett team, so I won't count them out entirely.

As for ANA:

Top 4 5v5 pts/60

Getzlaf 2.76 vs Hall 3.15 Palmeiri 2.37 vs. Ebs 2.31 Perry 2.32 vs Yak 2.20 Ryan 2.23 vs Gags 1.84

Move up Cogliano at 1.97 to replace Ryan.

It looks close, but RNH was a disastrous 1.29 last year with one shoulder. I expect him over 2.00 this year no problem.

Gags can improve to over 2.00 as well without the Krueger Conundrum neutral zone play and a proved puck driver in Perron on his left side.

Yak was a rookie, but I expect his numbers to normalize a bit (go down) as he shot the lights out.

Cogliano will surely regress. His previous 3 years were 1.33, 1.38 and 1.39. He shot the lights out too, and will come back to his normal.

Silfverberg was 1.45 last year in OTT. If he gets to play on the 2nd line, he should improve, but to expect a lot isn't wise. I like the player.

Palmeiri is a wild card. Unreal offensive season from the 4th line. He is coming along and might be ANA's replacement for Koivu on the 2nd line when he's done.

He has 2.22pts/60 in 18 games the year before. His history isn't long enough to project anything, but he coming into the NHL scoring points from the 4th line very, very well. (NOTE: This is why good kids and not "energy" players should be on your 4th line. For more evidence examine CHI's roster this past year)

So up front they've lost some and Cogliano is a lock to regress and they lost some on the back end as well.

ANA's "ton's of depth" isn't deeper than the Oilers on the back end, where depth can really count. I agree that their young forwards look good, but they are young and that doesn't help them this year.

I think you are under rating Ribiero.

He's been a consistent point producer wherever he's been scoring close to a PPG for the last 6 seasons.

While last year's production, based on a spike in his shooting percentage was an anomaly, he can score.

BTW, he played #2C in Washington behind Backstrom last season.

While I agree the contract may be toxic in the long run, we are talking about the upcoming season and I'd wager he will outscore Hopkins.

Saying Ribiero, Vermette and Hanzal don't hold a candle to Hopkins, Sammy Snowpants and Boyd Gordon is just ridiculous.

As for Anaheim, you've taken 4 players out of context without looking at who they are surrounded with.

A top 6 of Getzlaf, Perry, Penner, Koivu, Selanne and Silfverberg is very strong.

Suggesting Cogliano will be moving up isn't at all accurate.

The Ducks bottom 6 will include Winnik, Cogliano, Bonino, Etem, Palmieri, Holland, Smyth-Pelley, Belesky and Maroon in various combinations.

That group will eat the Oilers bottom 6 for lunch.

I agree their D depth is a question but certainly no more than the Oilers.

The Oilers don't have a top pairing but have 352 bottom pairing D.

Goaltending also favours the Ducks.

I'd expect the Ducks will finish at least 10 points ahead of the Oilers.

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#64 Oil timer
August 26 2013, 09:02PM
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WAY TOO MANY IFs

Not always completely right DSF is a realist. And you all bite every time.

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#65 K_Mart
August 25 2013, 12:17PM
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Off the wall prediction:

Hall-Nuge-Yak Perron-Ebs-Hemsky Jones_Gags-Joensuu Eager-Gordon-Smytty

Ebs finds a home at the center position-not Hall-deapite his small stature and suddenly the biggest problem for the oilers forward corps is depth at the AHL level, and not at center for the big club.

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#66 DSF
August 25 2013, 02:54PM
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MessyEH! wrote:

The Oilers got rid of their worst players.

Whitney. Petrell. Hordichuk. Belanger

None are NHLers. (They should not have been playing last year.) The Oilers defense has gotten better.

Belov> Whitney Ference>Fistric Also pushing everyone else down the depth chart.

Gordan=Horcoff. Lander=Belanger Perron> MPS (for now.)

Brown> Hordichuk.

Laberra> khabby

These are tangible upgrades and break evens. Overall Oilers improved just on these moves.

Now, the D may be greatly improved if Belov works out. He is still magic beans at this point.( But he was the best defensemen in the 2nd best league in the world.)

Now as a group the Fab 5 are going to improve. Some may regress, but overall they are going to improve.

This tells me the Oilers have improved.I think they may be the most improved team in the league. For the 1st time in 4 years I think they are making the post season.

Do you think they can finish top 3 in the Pacific Division?

If not, who do you think they will finish ahead of for a wild card spot?

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#67 MessyEH!
August 25 2013, 04:23PM
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Central

1)Blackhawks 2)Blues 3)Wild 4)Stars 5)Preds 6)Jets 7)Colorado

Biggest losers Jets Biggest winners Stars The Jets may be the darkhorse in the central.

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#68 DSF
August 25 2013, 05:38PM
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Harry wrote:

I love it how for some reason you think everyone of Minnesotas rookies will take a steo forward. Not only that but your saying Dumba be money in the bank aswell. Get a grip

Which "rookies" are you referring to?

Brodin is already a bonafide top pairing D man, Granlund was injured last season, Charlie Coyle had a nice rookie season and I can'rt imagine he will get worse at the age of 21.

No one suggested Dumba was "money in the bank" as your straw man argument suggests, just that he and Jonathan Blum shore up their D depth quite nicely.

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#69 DSF
August 25 2013, 05:43PM
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Harry wrote:

You hit the nail on the head 110%. This guy is so biased its laughable. Proof you say? Well lets just say he thinks FLA has a better depth chart at C then EDM Some people just cant admit that Edm is going to be scary good and sooner than we think. Hall is on his way to some future hardware too.

Yeah.

You got me there.

Sasha Barkov

Drew Shore

Shawn Matthias

Marcel Goc

Scott Gomez

Nick Bjugstad

Quinton Howden

Vincent Trochek (scored 50 goals and 109 points in the WHL last season.

I'd take Anton Lander, Marc Arcobello and some guy named Andrew Miller over any of those guys.

Phhhttt.

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#70 Harry
August 25 2013, 10:36PM
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yawto wrote:

You list all the additions but do not list subtractions. They are important as well. Sure they added seguin at the cost of Ericsson. Minnesota lost setaguchi.

You also bank on big improvements from up an coming prospects for these other teams yet seem to think these players improving will have such an effect on the other teams but give no credit for the improvement of three recent first overalls. I know that Hall is no granlund but expect to see him improve on his prior year. Probably Nuge, Yak city, Schultz and Ebs as well.

At some point you must admit that this team is like a fine wine that is only going to improve with age. And as each year passes expect the wine to improve significantly.

So I agree with LT. Yes the oilers are a better team than all the above listed and probably can find a way to get into the mix with Anaheim for the fourth spot in our division.

Hall is no Grandlund? What the heck does that mean?

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#71 Gaz
August 26 2013, 09:24AM
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@DSF

It terrifies me that anyone would say we have a deep group of centers.

I think the Oiler's hodgepodge of defensemen will work out this season, but the issue at center will be the reason that the Oilers stumble out of the gate and never recover.

We'd be flaying "Timid Tamby" if he was still driving this bus - why does MacT get a free pass? Because he's entertaining in interviews?

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#72 Randaman
August 26 2013, 09:36PM
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Trust DSF to dominate and ruin a pretty good article. Only one point to make; I wonder if Seguin would have such good numbers if he was on any other team besides the Bruins? I thought not

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#73 DSF
August 25 2013, 02:43PM
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Oilbaron wrote:

"While I agree with LT that the Oilers will improve based on improvement by young players, the question is, have they improved MORE than other teams will?"

I will bet yes... especially in the case of Vancouver, Phoenix and Anaheim, hoping possibly the kings as well, san jose probably not.

The Oilers will also probably be more improved than everyone in the Central division except for Chicago, St. Louis and Winnipeg. Colorado and Dallas are wild cards and Minnesota is a (bad) joke

Why exactly, do you think Minnesota is a joke?

Be specific.

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#74 Impartial Oilers Fan
August 26 2013, 01:13PM
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Why does no one bring up Taylor Halls UNSUSTAINABLE 94.3% IPP when talking about his PTS/G and how he did so well last year?? For a reference point, Hall had a 75.6% the year previously. The best superstars in the league are around 80-85% on a consistent year to year basis, and yet Taylor Hall projections are being based on a lot of "lucky" points that he received. Don't get me wrong, he's a tremendous player, but come on please, use a little perspective!!

(Individual Points Percentage - The percentage of goals scored by players team while player is on the ice that the player had a point on.

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#75 Serious Gord
August 26 2013, 09:49PM
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DSF is approaching the analysis from the correct angle - when you consider who the oil have to beat to even get a wildcard - especially considering what most of them have done to improve their teams/address weaknesses and comparing them to MacT's, the oil are going to have to have a lot of things to their way to make the playoffs.

The weakness at centre remains unaddressed (amazing) A still sketchy starting goalie has even more sketchy backup and a full 84 game season to deal with. (And Dubnyks pads will be about 3 inches shorter each this year) The Defense has gone from abysmal to just poor.

Throw in a few injuries - and you know that every team sees hitting the oil as the key to victory - and the oil could be out of contention by New Years.

The oil more than any other team has ifs - rookies from upper management on down abound:

If Eakins can whip them into shape and run a dynamic and ever changing tactical game and

Dubnyk can prove both capable of making the big save (to hell with sv pctg) and durable and

The shultzes and the other d have career seasons and

The young guns stay healthy (and hall finds some scoring touch and adds some nuance to his game) and

MacT deals hemsky (and gagner) to get the 2c player this team needs

Then they make the playoffs.

But if just any one of these five things doesn't happen - they are out of the playoffs yet again.

AND if they fail yet again to make the playoffs - what is the fate of Kevin Lowe?

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#76 MessyEH!
August 25 2013, 05:01PM
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@DSF

"The OIlers have ZERO C depth in fact they don't even have 4 bonafide NHL centres while the Stars have at least 6."

Your being ridiculous. Marc Acrobello was top ten in AHL scoring last year. And has proven chemistry with hall and Eberle.

GP 74 g22 a46 pts68 pim48.

Lets not forget the addition of Ryan Hamilton at LW.

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#77 Oilbaron
August 26 2013, 04:14AM
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get it? cause he held a press conference telling everyone his name was parisEEEEEEEE (extra emphasis on the eeeeeeee), yet no one seemed to care or listen.

aahahahahahahahaha, oh zach parisay

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#78 Harry
August 26 2013, 07:38PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

you should probably "deal with" the trail of misses you have laid out over the last little while. You know, rather than pretend you know what's going on.

something something credibility something something less than zero something something

IE. Calgarys shot at playoffs if they would have signed Grabovski. The guy is a 100% stat geek

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