SAM GAGNER TO BE NAMED C14

Wanye
August 27 2013 09:26PM

Now many moons ago back in 2009 your ol' pal Wanye tripped over some news at the bottle depot when we found out that Mike Comrie was coming back to the Oilers for a second tour of duty. 

Everyone under the sun called us a liar, a dreamer or worse but history ultimately proved us correct. It seems that even now and again a garbage can gets another steak because we have a second bit of news a mere four years later.

Sam Gagner is going to be named the 14th Captain of the Edmonton Oilers.

THE PROCESS

Apparently when the Oilers trade their Captain - which happens all too often sadly - one of their final duties on the way out the door is to weigh in on who should replace them at the helm of the team. Jason Smith begat Ethan Moreau. Ethan Moreau knighted Shawn Horcoff. And now Horcoff put 89's name in the ring as the man most deserving to be his successor.

Once that occurs the powers that be at the Oilers offices huddle together and discuss the candidate's worthiness. It seems Samwise has passed the mustard with Katz, Lowe, MacT and Eakins and will be named the C14.

THE THINKING

Sam Gagner is one of those guys who mysteriously gets little love from the OilersNation. A mere 9 months older than our beloved Jordan Eberle he already has 6 NHL seasons under his belt and has fared quite well despite what some folks will tell you.

In 414 GP he has potted 91 goals, 167 assists and 258 points including the fabulous 8 point night back in 2012 that caused a bare bummed Travis Dakin to streak down the freezing streets of Fort McMurray much to the delight of the entire internet.

In many games during the past few disappointing seasons Gagner was one of the few Oilers who kept the foot on the gas all the way to the final match of the season, refusing to mail it in on even the meaninglessest of games. And his leadership didn't end there - he was also one of the few Oilers who were willing to face the post game media scrums night after night.

And although the Oilers and Gagner's camp have had trouble reaching a long term contract his three year deal announced on July 22nd was enough certainty to name him the fourteenth Captain in team history.

THE RESULT

With Gagner wearing the C it eliminates the gun fight between Hall, Eberle, Yakupov and The Nuge for ownership of the team. Whose team is it? Effectively this move makes it everyone's team.

And even more so - the team belongs to Sam Gagner as he joins the likes of Gretzky, Messier, Lowe and Weight in the pantheon of legends as the newest Captain of the Edmonton Oilers.

Maybe we are wrong. We highly doubt it. So how you like him now haters?

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#101 Serious Gord
August 28 2013, 09:21AM
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Gene principe just weighed in on 1260. His opinion is very similar to mine (and the show hosts too, apparently.

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#102 Tim in Kelowna
August 28 2013, 09:23AM
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I love this. As far as I'm concerned you want the most dedicated guy on the team to be the leader. Sam is that guy - he never quits and every time he drops the gloves I find myself shedding a tear of pride.

Taylor Hall is the best player on the team and he makes a good leader on the ice and (likely) in the dressing room. But Hall is a punk off the ice and the last thing the Oilers need is the Captain representing the team poorly around town.

Sam is both a enthusiastic youngster and a classy veteran. He represents the youth movement but he also has the maturity to deal with the media and the fans appropriately.

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#103 LoweBlow
August 28 2013, 09:24AM
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I think Gags is a great choice. I hope this motivates him to round out his game. Play a bit tougher, better in his own end, stronger in the faceoff circle.

Feed this kid some bloody raw meat before every game.

No vegans allowed.

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#104 Yakman
August 28 2013, 09:25AM
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I'm always amazed at how many people take the DSF bait. The reality is that we don't know how this team will fair in the coming years... But I would hesitate to bet against Taylor Hall, Yakupov, Schultz, etc. This team reminds me of the 1996 oilers. Lots of promise bubbling. My prediction is Sam will be a good captain and we make the playoffs either this year or next. When we start making the playoffs we will start attracting bargain free agents. Then we start doing some damage!

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#105 madjam
August 28 2013, 09:36AM
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The elder statesman of the youth movement makes sense . Allows others to concentrate more on their progressive games .

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#106 Aitch
August 28 2013, 09:54AM
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Hey Wanye... did you know that Squeee is now officially a word. It's been added to the Oxford English Dictionary. I assume you had a large part to play in this.

http://www.inquisitr.com/924837/twerk-selfie-squee-others-get-added-to-oxford-dictionary/

In other news, it must be August because people are way too riled up over a rumour of a captaincy.

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#107 Big Cap
August 28 2013, 09:56AM
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Sam Gagner is NOT an elite player. Taylor is the teams best player and emotional leader of this team.

Gagner may have "Paid his Dues" but that does NOT mean he is entitled to be our Captain.

Everyone talks about his 8 point game or his one fight a year. But really, what has he really done for our team in 6 years???

Hall must be our new Captain!

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#108 djc
August 28 2013, 10:02AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Gene principe just weighed in on 1260. His opinion is very similar to mine (and the show hosts too, apparently.

Your gold star is in the mail.

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#109 ed in london
August 28 2013, 10:02AM
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DSF wrote:

Gagner is a mediocre player.

His point totals have been inflated by how desperate the Oilers were to sell tickets.

Logan Couture, Jakub Voracek, Max Pacioretty, David Perron, Kevin Shattenkirk, Jamie Benn and PK Subban, who were all selected after Gagner, are much better hockey players.

If Gagner, after all this time in the league isn't on the Team Canada radar, he isn't much.

So you seem to be saying the Gagner is in the top 10 or so players drafted in his year. So are you a closet fan?

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#110 They're $hittie
August 28 2013, 10:04AM
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@Big Cap

being the best player does not entitle you to the captaincy either. Washington is Ovechkins team, whether he wears the c or not. Not saying Hall doesnt except this but if he can't than he is not mature enough to be captain or even captain material.

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#111 Six Rings
August 28 2013, 10:09AM
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DSF wrote:

Brooke Hogan is at least 3 inches taller than Sammy Snowpants and I've heard (not at the bottle depot) that she can go into the corners and come out with the ?@3#.

Her Dad, Hulk, has been working on crushing skulls for decades, while Sam's Dad, Dave, has been working on making the Canucks into a Stanley Cup winner.

Based on pedigree and size, Brooke would be a better choice for Captain.

You know that sort of wrestling is fake, right?

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#112 They're $hittie
August 28 2013, 10:14AM
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Spydyr wrote:

I have been an Oiler fan since the WHA.

You know what is magical to me. Another Cup. Not a freak occurrence in a nothing game. A game in which the other team clearly quit trying.

Some folks that were not around for the Cup years don't understand what winning is and what it takes to win. Seven years outside the playoffs is tough to swallow. Yeah, I'm jaded only because I have witnessed greatness in the Oilers and now all I see is mistake after mistake.

There is a big difference in the game in the 80's (yes I was around and remember them) but there was only 21 teams and statistically the odds of winning the cup were easier back than. Also every year a team wins the cup. Not every year especially in todays era does someone score 8 points.

The thing that makes it even better was the timing of it, and the fact that it wasnt hall or eberle.

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#113 SteelStewart
August 28 2013, 10:16AM
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No way in hell Gags gets the "C" before Hall. No wayyyyyyyyyy BRO!

They want to hand the leadership of the team to the young franchise players. Gags is going to be traded in the last year or even this year of his contract. Lets be real....

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#114 Skoobz
August 28 2013, 10:16AM
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@ed in london

Voracek isn't even close to being better than Gagner. Pacioretty is equivalent. Couture and Benn ARE better. Shattenkirk and PK are apples to oranges.

But Voracek?? Jeez.

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#115 SteelStewart
August 28 2013, 10:16AM
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ANNNNNDDD

Who gives a flying F what Horcoff thinks...

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#116 Sanaa Montana
August 28 2013, 10:17AM
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Please don't project your insecurities on me.

My comment was not out of line or disrespectful, there was no reason to delete it.

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#117 Spydyr
August 28 2013, 10:22AM
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They're $hittie wrote:

There is a big difference in the game in the 80's (yes I was around and remember them) but there was only 21 teams and statistically the odds of winning the cup were easier back than. Also every year a team wins the cup. Not every year especially in todays era does someone score 8 points.

The thing that makes it even better was the timing of it, and the fact that it wasnt hall or eberle.

Comparing scoring eight goals in a nothing game to winning five Cups is like comparing Milly Cyrus shaking her a$$ to Pink Floyds The Wall. One is great the other fluff.

It is a real insight into this edition of the Oilers when most fans here approve of the new captain being Sam. Is he the best the team has to offer?

Now that is a sad state of affairs.

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#118 They're $hittie
August 28 2013, 10:24AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Comparing scoring eight goals in a nothing game to winning five Cups is like comparing Milly Cyrus shaking her a$$ to Pink Floyds The Wall. One is great the other fluff.

It is a real insight into this edition of the Oilers when most fans here approve of the new captain being Sam. Is he the best the team has to offer?

Now that is a sad state of affairs.

I did not compare 5 cups to 8 points. I was saying they are magical in different ways.

Please make your argument to why Eberle or Hall are better choices. IF you argument is because they are better players than you do not know what the definition of leadership is.

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#119 They're $hittie
August 28 2013, 10:27AM
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I guess DSF and Spyder are smarter than the rest of oilersnation, and that they know better than the oilers management who are inside the dressing room and deal with these players on a regular basis.

I am not against Hall being Captain, but do not see it as a bad thing is Gagner is either.

Eberle on the other hand....

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#120 2004Z06
August 28 2013, 10:32AM
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seanjohn wrote:

I'm actually OK with it. While, it is a bit surprising, if you think about it, it shouldn't be. He is the oldest and most experienced of the young core. He certainly has leadership qualities and cares as much as anyone.

Gag C Hall A Ebs A

what's wrong with that? mark me down.

This! Hall has already stated publically he doesn't care if he gets the C or not. It will not change how he leads by example on the ice.

He will get his turn at the table. Gagner has earned it.

Why is everyone so eager to anoint Hall as the saviour returned so soon?

All any of these guys have done thus far is lead this team to the bottom 1/4 of the league year after year.

Why don't we wait until we make the playoffs before casting another bronze statue?

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#121 thebiggestmanintheworld
August 28 2013, 10:34AM
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Skoobz wrote:

Voracek isn't even close to being better than Gagner. Pacioretty is equivalent. Couture and Benn ARE better. Shattenkirk and PK are apples to oranges.

But Voracek?? Jeez.

The gap between Sam and some of those players isn't as big as you would like to think it is.

Gagner is a quality player. I have no doubt aboot it.

But don't just dismiss guys like Voracek. He's better than you give him credit for...

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#122 2004Z06
August 28 2013, 10:35AM
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SteelStewart wrote:

ANNNNNDDD

Who gives a flying F what Horcoff thinks...

It's called respect. Look it up!

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#123 Big Cap
August 28 2013, 10:39AM
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@2004Z06

I'm not dead set against Gagner being our Captain, but I strongly believe Hall is a better choice.

You say that "Gagner has earned it"... What exactly has he done to earn it??

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#124 thebiggestmanintheworld
August 28 2013, 10:40AM
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@Spydyr

I can only imagine what you would say about an eight point night if Hall was the one potting the points.

The whole hockey world stopped and took notice when Gagner broke ONE OF WAYNE GRETZKY'S RECORDS.

And now, that "nothing game" you keep refering to, is infamous and lives on in the record books.

An eight point game = fluff?

Another old time fan, like DSF, that the bandwagon should have ran over when they jumped off....

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#125 Spydyr
August 28 2013, 10:49AM
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thebiggestmanintheworld wrote:

I can only imagine what you would say about an eight point night if Hall was the one potting the points.

The whole hockey world stopped and took notice when Gagner broke ONE OF WAYNE GRETZKY'S RECORDS.

And now, that "nothing game" you keep refering to, is infamous and lives on in the record books.

An eight point game = fluff?

Another old time fan, like DSF, that the bandwagon should have ran over when they jumped off....

OK, he TIED Gretzky's record.Gretzky actually did it twice.

I'll try to put the eight goal game into context for you.

What meant more the Oilers organization Gagner eight points in a regular season game or Kevin Mcclelland 1-0 goal against Billy Smith and the Islanders?

No contest is it?

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#127 Big Cap
August 28 2013, 10:51AM
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thebiggestmanintheworld wrote:

I can only imagine what you would say about an eight point night if Hall was the one potting the points.

The whole hockey world stopped and took notice when Gagner broke ONE OF WAYNE GRETZKY'S RECORDS.

And now, that "nothing game" you keep refering to, is infamous and lives on in the record books.

An eight point game = fluff?

Another old time fan, like DSF, that the bandwagon should have ran over when they jumped off....

Gagner's 8 point night was truly remarkable and fantastic...non-debatable.

If you remember, Pat Hughes once scored 5 goals for us in a single game.

IMO, One game does not define a career or does NOT mean it should be top of mind when considering who our Captain should be for the next decade....

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#128 The Heist
August 28 2013, 10:53AM
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I've been saying for a couple months now Sam should get the C. I also kind of remember rambling on about it with some fellow fans over a few table kegs of nation beer on its birthnight.

Is he or will he be our number one scorer? No. Is he young enough to still be included in the "youth movement"? Absolutely.

This kid has offensive skill, maybe only fifth most on team but he's young, wants to WIN here, is an experienced vet beside our actual kids and stands up for his teammates.

Taylor hall can work on his game without added pressure and I guarantee gagner will improve his game knowing he got the captaincy nod from the big wigs. And if you wanna get statistical, Sammy hasn't even hit prime age yet.

Way to fight and never give up Sam, you deserve it.

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#129 Spydyr
August 28 2013, 10:54AM
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Wanye wrote:

EVERYONE IS YELLING

SHOWER ME WITH TRASHES

Nothing like a Gagner article to get the Oiler faithful going.Shows how much Oilers fans care about the team. No matter what side of the fence you sit on.

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#130 2004Z06
August 28 2013, 11:02AM
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@Big Cap

He's been here 6 yrs, dealt with all the media and public scrutiny as a professional, been a gamer every night in the good times and bad (mostly bad). He doesn't throw tantrums when the coach pulls the goalie and the team gives up an empty netter, he doesn't chirp the refs after every call/non call. His age and experience also makes him the perfect bridge between the veterans and the kids.

I have seen Taylor Hall do a lot of growing up over the past few years and I believe he will be the captain of this team one day, but he is not there just yet.

Why the rush? Hall will get his turn, just as he will get his turn at the olympics. It just won't be in Sochi.

People need to show a little patience. Just because he could be captain now doesn't necessarily mean he should.

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#131 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
August 28 2013, 11:03AM
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Wanye wrote:

EVERYONE IS YELLING

SHOWER ME WITH TRASHES

HOW ABOUT I YELL AND GIVE YOU A PROPS AND ZERO TRASHES! HOW YOU LIKE DEM APPLES!!!

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#132 pop pop
August 28 2013, 11:08AM
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You know the captian is the scape goat and chauffer right. When Gagner is traded in two years. They'll make RNH captain. Right now it woukd just look wierd for baby Nuge to be driving around in his booster seat.

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#133 Shifty203
August 28 2013, 11:10AM
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Big Cap wrote:

I'm not dead set against Gagner being our Captain, but I strongly believe Hall is a better choice.

You say that "Gagner has earned it"... What exactly has he done to earn it??

To be fair, as per your question, we can also ask "what has Hall done to earn it?".

We all know Hall can put up a ton of points. We all know Hall busts his butt.

We all know Gagner puts up his share of points. We all know Gagner also busts his butt.

We all know they both come off as leaders off the ice, in front of the camera.

What not one person here knows, is how they are as leaders on the ice, or in the locker room. None, notta, not one person. Management and the coaching staff, however, should/does have access to that information.

While i'm not entirely trusting of our management, I am hardly a consipiracy theorist either.

If our new coach has talked to management, talked to staff, and talked to the players, and this is who he chose, then thats the way it goes.

I don't understand the fan's here that sound personaly insulted that Hall wasn't the choice.

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#134 Quicksilver ballet
August 28 2013, 11:11AM
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I'm okay with Gagner being the captain. As long as he's used in a package to bring back a more physical centerman (#14, currently wearing a different shade of orange) who can play at both ends of the rink.

Doesn't matter who wears the C on this team. Taylor Hall will lead/be the best player on the ice anyways.

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#135 thebiggestmanintheworld
August 28 2013, 11:24AM
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@Spydyr

Look, I'll put it in context for you.

If someone, anyone really, scores eight points in one game, that's a big deal. Kevin McClelland's goal doesn't factor in anywhere here.

I don't think his big night defines his career.

Nor should it matter in determining the captaincy.

But to just dismiss it, and compare it to the glory years(which is funny, because it actually does compare), is pretty ignorant.

To be honest, I was in the Hall camp for the vacancy, but, I have a hard time arguing Gagner.

He's old enough and has enough games to talk to the elders, and can talk to the kids without sounding like their dad.

Not thinking he's captain material is one thing. Sh*tting on a eight point night is another.

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#136 Big Cap
August 28 2013, 11:26AM
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Shifty203 wrote:

To be fair, as per your question, we can also ask "what has Hall done to earn it?".

We all know Hall can put up a ton of points. We all know Hall busts his butt.

We all know Gagner puts up his share of points. We all know Gagner also busts his butt.

We all know they both come off as leaders off the ice, in front of the camera.

What not one person here knows, is how they are as leaders on the ice, or in the locker room. None, notta, not one person. Management and the coaching staff, however, should/does have access to that information.

While i'm not entirely trusting of our management, I am hardly a consipiracy theorist either.

If our new coach has talked to management, talked to staff, and talked to the players, and this is who he chose, then thats the way it goes.

I don't understand the fan's here that sound personaly insulted that Hall wasn't the choice.

Your points are all fair and correct.

In my opinion, Hall is getting better every year. His Point totals, Defensive play, and overall game.

Last year Hall separated himself as a near elite player in the league. Had Nuge and Ebs been healthy all year he may have had another 12-15 points.

His speed and reckless style flying off the wing is a very unique skill set. My concern is just because Gagner has "put his time" in that should not be a factor. We have to wonder, just how much better can Gagner really be? He's probably a point of game player at best. He's relatively feisty, but nothing that screams he'll do whatever it takes on the ice. He's well spoken in front of the media and is well liked in this city.

You have to wonder had MacT been able to pull of a Bold Move would Gagner have been going the other way?? There's a very good chance of it.

Gagner has taken us to Arbitration twice now (within seconds both times, anyways)Just how dedicated is he to the long term of this team? Hall re-upped even before his ELC was up.

Look at the other Captains in the league, they for the most part are the best players or ones who are on the verge of dominating for their teams.

And in 3-5 years when Hall does his "experience and maturity" is Gags just supposed to hand over the C??

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#137 rickithebear
August 28 2013, 11:32AM
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last year for centers:

gagner was 17th in points 17th in assists 11th in PP pts 10th in Pp production/minute 3rd best pk center in game.

they only centers close or equal to covering the gambit. Getzlaf, Bergeron, Toews, Bozak, Roy.

when you look at the 17 captains who are forwards. 1. 5 are dominate for there position on Even and PP. Crosby Thorton ovechkin H. Sedin Zetterburg 2. 4 are strong PK players with good offensive production. Backes Brown Callahan Landeskog 3. 4 cover the whole gambit Getzlaf Giroux Toews Ladd

Same Gagner covered the whole gambit last year.

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#138 They're $hittie
August 28 2013, 11:34AM
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@Big Cap

Gagner doesnt show signs of giving it his all on the ice? Wow you don't watch the games do you.

Taylor was born with Talent and Elite Skill. You cant teach that, but that does not equal a good leader.

Putting in your time does count for something. Experience and lessons learned is what makes you a better captain.

How many businesses bring in the new fresh face out of school with the fancy degree to lead the place and they have no respect from the employees. Lots. Paying your dues and learning lessons is huge to being a good leader.

Several Draft day quotes for Gagner "freat leadership and captain material"

Very similar to Halls draft day regarding his leadership. Do not recall this for Eberle, or Nuge.

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#139 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
August 28 2013, 11:39AM
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David S wrote:

http://youtu.be/MT7gvsOJMI4

Gagner IS god!

*drops mic*

David S. IS. Gagner!

Seriously. That's why he can't show his real picture....and picked a TALL guy in a suit to represent him.

So really it's Gagner referring to himself in the third person......Gagner is Great.....Gagner is the Oilers Best player...etc.....

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#140 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
August 28 2013, 11:44AM
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Just curious if the Oilers are the only team in NHL history to trade every captain they've ever had?!? (With the exception of Al Hamilton)

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#141 Bucknuck
August 28 2013, 11:45AM
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Can I please just say I LOVE THE TRASH BUTTON. It has made it so that I can have faith in Oiler fans again. I was starting to think they were all just a bunch of whiny stupid heads. The silent masses are able to make themselves heard without entering the fray. It's great.

Gagner for captain makes all kinds of sense. He actually has the ability to change games. He has grit and will stick up for his teammates. He is a longtime Oiler. It will take pressure off the other kids. He is respected by the players and management (or so I am led to believe).

Good choice.

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#142 Big Cap
August 28 2013, 11:50AM
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@They're $hittie

Gagner does give it all on the ice, I agree. But to what impact on every shift does he make? (Cue the stats guys)

There is probably less than 5 current players in the league who wear the C and are not the best players on the team. Those players however would then in turn bring a very strong and different skill to compensate for that.

Hall has been here for 3 years, he's not Freshed faced or a rookie or new to the Oilers. He too has put his time in. IMO, he has accomplished more in 3 years than Gagner in 6.

We have had Captains over the years who are great team players and leaders, but lack high end skill. I believe most recently Doug Weight would be the best example as a Hybrid who brings both high end skill and great leadership. He was an All Star and Olympian while leading his team in scoring and always leading by example on and off the ice. I don't see many Olympics, or All Star or leading our team in points for 89

I do think he is a valuable player for us, just not a game breaker and future super star like Hall is.

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#143 Spydyr
August 28 2013, 11:52AM
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thebiggestmanintheworld wrote:

Look, I'll put it in context for you.

If someone, anyone really, scores eight points in one game, that's a big deal. Kevin McClelland's goal doesn't factor in anywhere here.

I don't think his big night defines his career.

Nor should it matter in determining the captaincy.

But to just dismiss it, and compare it to the glory years(which is funny, because it actually does compare), is pretty ignorant.

To be honest, I was in the Hall camp for the vacancy, but, I have a hard time arguing Gagner.

He's old enough and has enough games to talk to the elders, and can talk to the kids without sounding like their dad.

Not thinking he's captain material is one thing. Sh*tting on a eight point night is another.

Showing that one big goal means more than eight points is my point it is called context.

He scored eight points he did that good for him. Now in the context of what really matters more the one goal is far more important than the eight points.

You understand that right? Or should I resort to name calling like you did?

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#144 2004Z06
August 28 2013, 11:55AM
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If anyone thinks that how many points you put up is an indicator of whether or not you should be captain, you clearly need to look up what the definition of a captain is. Work ethic, maturity, community involvement, leadership, commitment, sacrifice and integrity etc are the traits of a quality captain.

As such, Gagners 8 pt night and Hall's stats in the Western Conference last season are irrelevant in this decision.

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#145 2004Z06
August 28 2013, 12:01PM
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Big Cap wrote:

Gagner does give it all on the ice, I agree. But to what impact on every shift does he make? (Cue the stats guys)

There is probably less than 5 current players in the league who wear the C and are not the best players on the team. Those players however would then in turn bring a very strong and different skill to compensate for that.

Hall has been here for 3 years, he's not Freshed faced or a rookie or new to the Oilers. He too has put his time in. IMO, he has accomplished more in 3 years than Gagner in 6.

We have had Captains over the years who are great team players and leaders, but lack high end skill. I believe most recently Doug Weight would be the best example as a Hybrid who brings both high end skill and great leadership. He was an All Star and Olympian while leading his team in scoring and always leading by example on and off the ice. I don't see many Olympics, or All Star or leading our team in points for 89

I do think he is a valuable player for us, just not a game breaker and future super star like Hall is.

Accomplished in what regard? Points? We are not talking about who the better player is here, we are talking about who the better leader is. One does not equate to the other.

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#146 thebiggestmanintheworld
August 28 2013, 12:30PM
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@Spydyr

Relax guy. I didn't call anyone any names.

If you want to live in the eighties, that's fine. I heard it was a good time to be an Oilers fan.

Me, I try and stay in the here and now. Last year, I got to watch some history.

The whole hockey community was focused on us for a night, and it was finally for something good.

No, not good. Great.

Celebrate it for what it is man. An impressive achievement in today's game.

Maybe I'm clinging to some of the only happy times I can remember as an Oilers fan in recent years. I don't count draft parties...

You know, maybe we're a lot alike....

Only, I'm clinging to 2012, not 1984.....

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#147 Spydyr
August 28 2013, 12:55PM
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thebiggestmanintheworld wrote:

Relax guy. I didn't call anyone any names.

If you want to live in the eighties, that's fine. I heard it was a good time to be an Oilers fan.

Me, I try and stay in the here and now. Last year, I got to watch some history.

The whole hockey community was focused on us for a night, and it was finally for something good.

No, not good. Great.

Celebrate it for what it is man. An impressive achievement in today's game.

Maybe I'm clinging to some of the only happy times I can remember as an Oilers fan in recent years. I don't count draft parties...

You know, maybe we're a lot alike....

Only, I'm clinging to 2012, not 1984.....

1984 was way better in every way than 2012..... I could drink for days and just keep going. Those five parties on Jasper Avenue were fun back then too.

Guess it will be Whyte avenue next Cup though.

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#148 pkam
August 28 2013, 01:02PM
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There are many attributes before skill to be a captain.

1. character 2. attitude 3. maturity 4. trust from the management and coaching staffs 5. respect from teammates 6. ability to deal with the media

Basically, the captain should be the role model, not the best player in the team. I believe there are a few Oilers, including Hall and Gagner, have the above attributes. I can't find any reason that Hall is capable but Gagner isn't.

There are good captains who are not the best player in their team, Ryan Callahan of the Rangers and Dustin Brown of the Kings come to mind. And there are best player in their team but are not good candidate for captain, Henrik Sedins of the Canucks and Overchkin of the Capitals come to mind.

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#149 Benny Botts
August 28 2013, 01:04PM
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I am all for Gags having the "C", he is a leader in the locker room and on the ice and he is a perfect bridge for the gap between the young guys and the older guys. I believe in the long term this is Halls team and he will eventually be the captain.

However there is one problem I have with this article.. how does Dallas Eakins decide on his captain without setting foot on the ice or in the dressing room with any of them? I think Eakins is the right man for the job, the results might now show this seaon. However long term I think he is the guy, i believe however, he is smarter then naming his captain before he even has had the chance to be in the same venue with all of them.

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#150 Casey
August 28 2013, 01:07PM
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SteelStewart wrote:

No way in hell Gags gets the "C" before Hall. No wayyyyyyyyyy BRO!

They want to hand the leadership of the team to the young franchise players. Gags is going to be traded in the last year or even this year of his contract. Lets be real....

First you people say "Clearly we didn't make the playoffs because our youth are still developing idiots it takes time" now you want someone who is not fully matured to be captain?? Let's wait until you guys stop using his age as an excuse for us not making the playoffs than we can talk

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