SAM GAGNER TO BE NAMED C14

Wanye
August 27 2013 09:26PM

Now many moons ago back in 2009 your ol' pal Wanye tripped over some news at the bottle depot when we found out that Mike Comrie was coming back to the Oilers for a second tour of duty. 

Everyone under the sun called us a liar, a dreamer or worse but history ultimately proved us correct. It seems that even now and again a garbage can gets another steak because we have a second bit of news a mere four years later.

Sam Gagner is going to be named the 14th Captain of the Edmonton Oilers.

THE PROCESS

Apparently when the Oilers trade their Captain - which happens all too often sadly - one of their final duties on the way out the door is to weigh in on who should replace them at the helm of the team. Jason Smith begat Ethan Moreau. Ethan Moreau knighted Shawn Horcoff. And now Horcoff put 89's name in the ring as the man most deserving to be his successor.

Once that occurs the powers that be at the Oilers offices huddle together and discuss the candidate's worthiness. It seems Samwise has passed the mustard with Katz, Lowe, MacT and Eakins and will be named the C14.

THE THINKING

Sam Gagner is one of those guys who mysteriously gets little love from the OilersNation. A mere 9 months older than our beloved Jordan Eberle he already has 6 NHL seasons under his belt and has fared quite well despite what some folks will tell you.

In 414 GP he has potted 91 goals, 167 assists and 258 points including the fabulous 8 point night back in 2012 that caused a bare bummed Travis Dakin to streak down the freezing streets of Fort McMurray much to the delight of the entire internet.

In many games during the past few disappointing seasons Gagner was one of the few Oilers who kept the foot on the gas all the way to the final match of the season, refusing to mail it in on even the meaninglessest of games. And his leadership didn't end there - he was also one of the few Oilers who were willing to face the post game media scrums night after night.

And although the Oilers and Gagner's camp have had trouble reaching a long term contract his three year deal announced on July 22nd was enough certainty to name him the fourteenth Captain in team history.

THE RESULT

With Gagner wearing the C it eliminates the gun fight between Hall, Eberle, Yakupov and The Nuge for ownership of the team. Whose team is it? Effectively this move makes it everyone's team.

And even more so - the team belongs to Sam Gagner as he joins the likes of Gretzky, Messier, Lowe and Weight in the pantheon of legends as the newest Captain of the Edmonton Oilers.

Maybe we are wrong. We highly doubt it. So how you like him now haters?

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#1 dangilitis
August 27 2013, 10:34PM
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DSF - Gagner is a mediocre player? You have said some dumb sh*t over the years, but this has to take the cake as one of the dumbest things you have ever said. Book it.

There is no justification for this comment. Even for someone as stupid as you. Ryan Jones is a mediocre player. Nick Schultz is a mediocre player. You were probably a mediocre beer league player. Gagner is highly skilled and a legitimately drafted top 10 pick, with his career pt totals in his draft year 2nd only to Patrick Kane. Like Hemsky, he has put up a boatload of offence for years with little help and a revolving door of coaches. When he tried to commit more to defence, remember the year he ... wait for it, dipsh*t... scored 8 points in a single game, he was the Oilers best center in terms of scoring chance differential (as per EJ tallies). And like Hemsky he had to hear critiques from MSM and d*ckheads like you who think they know something about hockey.

Hall would be my choice as captain by a fair margin, but Gagner still becomes the most skilled captain the team has seen in 12 years. I can live with that. If you define mediocre as not making the canadian olympic roster (even a TSN concocted one), then I am without speech.

Gagner is mediocre? Really, or are you getting bored that you haven't had any attacks at your character in the last few days? Well you get your wish so get your rocks off on this post for now. But I am not even going to try and justify my response any further because you must have smoked too much crack or sniffed too much glue or something tonight. Wanye, please call this man a cab and send him the f*ck out of here.

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#2 Krusher
August 27 2013, 09:40PM
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1 - dude likes the city, committed 2 - speaks very well, can handle the media 3 - going into year 7, still young but experienced

Most importantly, willing to do what it takes. Any guy that takes on a beast two weight classes above fully knowing his going to take some hard licks (Beauchemin) for the team is tops in my book.

Overall a great choice and a guy who is respected in the dressing room. Anyone who knocks this decision flat out does not understand hockey or the role of a captain.

Congrats Sam

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#3 Robin Brownlee
August 27 2013, 10:07PM
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Wanye wrote:

So did I and yet here we are.

While it's embarrassing to have a stumblebum like you get a whiff of something before we trained journalists with press passes and crisp Fedoras do, I hope you're right.

This will be SIUTBOHC at its finest for No. 89 haters who'd rather cut off their own bag with a dull butter knife than give Sam his due. Oh, the whining about it. Oh, the braying and moaning to no end. Captain Sam Gagner. I like it. I like it a lot.

Well done, Wanye. Well done.

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#4 Harry
August 27 2013, 11:14PM
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DSF wrote:

Brooke Hogan is at least 3 inches taller than Sammy Snowpants and I've heard (not at the bottle depot) that she can go into the corners and come out with the ?@3#.

Her Dad, Hulk, has been working on crushing skulls for decades, while Sam's Dad, Dave, has been working on making the Canucks into a Stanley Cup winner.

Based on pedigree and size, Brooke would be a better choice for Captain.

Sucks to be Dave . Seems hes failing at making your beloved band of soft wimps any sort of cup team.

Tell me DSF, how does it feel when you look up to the rafters at Rogers arena and see a Stan Smyl and a Naslund banner? Eat it you pathetic troll!!

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#5 Baresnake
August 27 2013, 10:33PM
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Boooooo DSF. BOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

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#6 Czar
August 27 2013, 11:57PM
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@DSF

"Hulk, has been working on crushing skulls for decades"

You've been giving skull for decades.

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#7 Harry
August 27 2013, 11:21PM
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DSF wrote:

The Oilers have a long history of appointing mediocre players to be their captain.

Ground Hog Day.

In other news...the TSN Panel has predicted the Olympic roster.

Kunitz-Crosby-Stamkos

Staal-Toews-Nash

Couture-Tavares-Giroux

Sharp-Getzlaf-Carter

Bergeron-St. Louis

No sign of Gagner.

I wonder why?

Maybe because crosby, toews, giroux, stamkos, staal, bergeron, getzlaf are all centers. pretty tough to crack that list.

You realy have nothing better to do with your life than troll an oilers fan website. PATHETIC. Just like the rafters at GM place

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#8 David S
August 27 2013, 11:04PM
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DSF wrote:

Gagner is a mediocre player.

His point totals have been inflated by how desperate the Oilers were to sell tickets.

Logan Couture, Jakub Voracek, Max Pacioretty, David Perron, Kevin Shattenkirk, Jamie Benn and PK Subban, who were all selected after Gagner, are much better hockey players.

If Gagner, after all this time in the league isn't on the Team Canada radar, he isn't much.

Sorry man. All the justification you can bring to the table is negated by one simple fact.

No "mediocre" player EVER scored 8 points in a single game in the NHL.

None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Zilch.

Certainly there are better players than Sam. But he's definitely not mediocre.

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#9 dangilitis
August 27 2013, 11:41PM
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DSF wrote:

Gagner is a mediocre player.

His point totals have been inflated by how desperate the Oilers were to sell tickets.

Logan Couture, Jakub Voracek, Max Pacioretty, David Perron, Kevin Shattenkirk, Jamie Benn and PK Subban, who were all selected after Gagner, are much better hockey players.

If Gagner, after all this time in the league isn't on the Team Canada radar, he isn't much.

Mediocre - "Of only moderate quality; not very good" - google that sh*t, buddy. I guess "isn't much" would constitute an adequate synonym.

Do you really think Gagner is not very good? Because that is what you have asserted here. In that case, your arguments thus far are: "point totals inflated" and "worse than Couture"/"not on Team Canada radar" do not prove that point. They are batsh*t crazy, actually. They may prove that he is not exceptional enough in 2013 to be considered amongst the top 45 Canadian players (over 600,000 registered Canadian hockey players last time I checked, which would place him conservatively in the 99.9925%ile of a top hockey nation). But he is a very good and skilled player, so I don't know how any rationally thinking human being can arrive at a different conclusion, hence my guess that you are currently on drugs - By the way, please tell me which one for future reference because I may decide one day to enter an alternate reality where very highly skilled players are perceived as "not very good".

Lets address the "inflated point totals comment" - If you consider the first 4 seasons of his career, leading point scorers on the team were Hemsky at 71, then 66, Penner at 63, then Eberle at 43. If you can find me many teams (many, not the Predators) with lower point totals amongst their leading scorers than that, then I could accept a hint of a trumped up argument by someone pulling at straws. Otherwise they are the accusations of a madman. Gagner's 8 pts in a game, while one night of greatness, runs directly counter to your claim that his point totals were inflated, as this achievement was last accomplished by Lemieux in an era where point totals truly were inflated.

Even if you add Kane to your list and presume that Gagner would still fit in the top 10-15 of his draft year, (which I will assume that you will try to do, but will start scraping the barrel and making outlandish claims that Riley Nash is poised to surpass Gagner any minute...) that is still not even close to mediocre. If you can prove that there are more than 50 players from that draft class, yes, then you have a good argument that he is mediocre. But you can't. By the way, you actually like a player that the Oilers brought in in Perron?

I can't believe I am even going to talk about the Canada team claim any further, but I will point out that he has donned the maple leaf as youngest player for the WJC winning team, as MVP of the super series, and rookie NHL member of the silver team at 2008 WC. Held 3 Oilers records by the age of 23.

So just admit it, you either didn't know the meaning of mediocre, or you are struggling to grasp what "not very good is" - if you are having trouble with this concept, take one of your posts, work exceptionally hard at improving its content and validity, have it proofread and edited by someone else, delete every comment that praises either the Canucks or Wild, and then it might just be mediocre. Might...

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#11 Dan the Man
August 27 2013, 10:13PM
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He doesn't have all-star lips like Taylor Hall. He doesn't have a gap in his teeth as wide as the river valley like Jordan Eberle. He's not as adorable as little baby Nuge and he doesn't have a celly like Yak City. He is however willing to get beat up by guys much larger and tougher than he is. I'm sold, he sounds like captain material to me.

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#12 Terran
August 27 2013, 11:29PM
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@DSF

"His point totals have been inflated by how desperate the Oilers were to sell tickets."

WTF does that even mean? KLowe was slipping the officials some green to give Gags points?

Please, enlighten us, o wise one...

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#13 Robin Brownlee
August 27 2013, 10:32PM
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@John

You disagreeing with Gagner being made captain makes the article ridiculous?

Quite the opposite. If Wanye is right and actually has the scoop (especially when naming Gagner captain is anything but predictable) while MSM people being paid to cover the team snooze at the switch, then it's nothing short of brilliant, no?

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#14 Jzed
August 27 2013, 11:29PM
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Congrats to Sam, good kid, hard worker, skilled hockey player and stand up guy.

DSF laughs the loudest at his own jokes and yearns for external validation of his brilliance. Pain in the ass at parties and utterly irrelevant on OILER blog sites. Go Oilers!

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#15 Johe
August 27 2013, 10:14PM
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I BELIEVE YOU WAYNE!! *voice begins to tremble, single tear trickles down cheek*

I...believe...

Oh and DSF- GET OUT!!!!!! Let's see you score eight points in the NHL in one night!!!!!

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#16 Krusher
August 27 2013, 09:50PM
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YFC Prez wrote:

In all fairness Brooke Hogan is 3 inches taller than most of us. That's a monster lady! I hope Sam gets it. Did not see that coming , not for one second.

Maybe little Brooke can teach the captain of the Canucks how to fight back?!?

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#17 Oil4Life
August 27 2013, 09:33PM
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Thought it was going to be Omark.

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#18 hallsyoiler5
August 27 2013, 11:29PM
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DSF, you make no sense at all. If Gag is only 2nd to Patrick Kane in points compared to everybody else drafted in the 1st round, then how are they considered better than Gagner? But since you said Perron was better, then go for it. Because he's going to be playing with Gagner as well. Twice the charm, if I do say so myself.

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#19 Doug
August 27 2013, 09:42PM
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I love it! Samwise plays with his heart on his sleeve and is willing to do whatever it takes to win including dropping the gloves.

Sam gets the C.....Hall and Ebs get the A's.

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#20 Puritania
August 27 2013, 10:35PM
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Baresnake wrote:

Boooooo DSF. BOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Props! Props! Props!

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#21 The Soup Fascist
August 27 2013, 11:14PM
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DSF wrote:

Brooke Hogan is at least 3 inches taller than Sammy Snowpants and I've heard (not at the bottle depot) that she can go into the corners and come out with the ?@3#.

Her Dad, Hulk, has been working on crushing skulls for decades, while Sam's Dad, Dave, has been working on making the Canucks into a Stanley Cup winner.

Based on pedigree and size, Brooke would be a better choice for Captain.

Dave needs to work (a lot) harder.

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#22 Leef O'Golin
August 28 2013, 07:16AM
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What??? This is absolutely ridiculous!!! Ben Affleck would make a terrible Batman! ....Wait..what was the question?

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#23 Johe
August 27 2013, 10:40PM
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@DSF

I acknowledge I cannot score eight points in the NHL. For one thing, I play goalie, so...

But in all seriousness, I'm not the one who constantly rips on Gagner. You are. I recognize that he's a good 2C who has yet to enter his prime. The best is yet ahead, and to go along with excellent offensive instincts he is an absolute standup teammate (something the Oilers haven't had enough of in recent years) and has the passion and fight you want from a leader. If Sam is the next captain, (60 % of the time, Wayne is right all the time) then he has my full support. Good for you Sam.

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#24 Matt Henderson
August 27 2013, 09:40PM
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Ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygod!!!!!!!!

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#25 Rocket
August 27 2013, 09:31PM
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Bagginses?

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#26 The_CWD_GarbageMan
August 28 2013, 01:43PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

Can I please just say I LOVE THE TRASH BUTTON. It has made it so that I can have faith in Oiler fans again. I was starting to think they were all just a bunch of whiny stupid heads. The silent masses are able to make themselves heard without entering the fray. It's great.

Gagner for captain makes all kinds of sense. He actually has the ability to change games. He has grit and will stick up for his teammates. He is a longtime Oiler. It will take pressure off the other kids. He is respected by the players and management (or so I am led to believe).

Good choice.

CWD and the Trash-it button LOVE you too sir ... we love you too ...

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#28 Six Rings
August 28 2013, 10:09AM
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DSF wrote:

Brooke Hogan is at least 3 inches taller than Sammy Snowpants and I've heard (not at the bottle depot) that she can go into the corners and come out with the ?@3#.

Her Dad, Hulk, has been working on crushing skulls for decades, while Sam's Dad, Dave, has been working on making the Canucks into a Stanley Cup winner.

Based on pedigree and size, Brooke would be a better choice for Captain.

You know that sort of wrestling is fake, right?

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#29 YFC Prez
August 27 2013, 09:47PM
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@DSF

In all fairness Brooke Hogan is 3 inches taller than most of us. That's a monster lady! I hope Sam gets it. Did not see that coming , not for one second.

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#30 Travis Dakin
August 27 2013, 10:32PM
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This pleases me.

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#31 skinny65
August 28 2013, 01:15AM
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Usually it's pretty tough to say something dumber than DSF, but you managed it here Gord. Because the Oilers didn't give a 21 year old Hall the C, he is going to want to be moved? Hahha, that's the most ludicrous thing ever!! "And it wont be a pleasant parting" What are you even talking about? How does giving the C to someone else make that remotely true? Is Hall a 5 year old?

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#32 Oil Can
August 27 2013, 09:33PM
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This is Taylor Hall's team and they should give him the "C" that he deserves.

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#33 DSF
August 27 2013, 09:35PM
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Brooke Hogan is at least 3 inches taller than Sammy Snowpants and I've heard (not at the bottle depot) that she can go into the corners and come out with the ?@3#.

Her Dad, Hulk, has been working on crushing skulls for decades, while Sam's Dad, Dave, has been working on making the Canucks into a Stanley Cup winner.

Based on pedigree and size, Brooke would be a better choice for Captain.

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#34 BigE91
August 27 2013, 10:07PM
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He's been through the lowest of the low with this franchise and never taken a shift off. Works every off season to improve his game. If it is true this is a great selection by the Oilers

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#35 Jay Gray
August 27 2013, 09:33PM
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To be honest, I never really thought of this as a possibility. But it makes sense. I actually think this happens. The point that Wanye made about this becoming everyones team if this happens is bang on. I assumed it would be Hall or maybe even Ference, but now I do believe it's Gags for C14.

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#36 Robin Brownlee
August 27 2013, 10:14PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

He doesn't have all-star lips like Taylor Hall. He doesn't have a gap in his teeth as wide as the river valley like Jordan Eberle. He's not as adorable as little baby Nuge and he doesn't have a celly like Yak City. He is however willing to get beat up by guys much larger and tougher than he is. I'm sold, he sounds like captain material to me.

Perhaps Bucky gets an A, then?

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#37 FTO
August 28 2013, 01:03AM
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*Checks Oilers news and comments under them* . . . *DSF is picking fights with fans of a team he dislikes to get into internet arguments* . . . Ahhh another day in the life of OilersNation

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#38 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
August 28 2013, 06:13PM
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Just heard fom Mike Gillis....he says the Oilers should make Devan Dubnyk the next Captain!

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#39 MSG
August 27 2013, 09:40PM
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This Wanye guy is a hack! Get him outta here! *hehehehehehe. I like it. If this is true, you sir are the new Jim Matheson.

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#40 John
August 27 2013, 10:25PM
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This is the most ridiculous article I've read all week. Taylor Hall defines everything a captain should be - leader, top scorer, passionate and fan favorite! Gagner is another average player with some leadership qualities. If you look at most NHL teams, the top players are the top leaders. Wake up and smell the freeking coffee

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#41 LoweBlow
August 28 2013, 09:24AM
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I think Gags is a great choice. I hope this motivates him to round out his game. Play a bit tougher, better in his own end, stronger in the faceoff circle.

Feed this kid some bloody raw meat before every game.

No vegans allowed.

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#42 djc
August 28 2013, 10:02AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Gene principe just weighed in on 1260. His opinion is very similar to mine (and the show hosts too, apparently.

Your gold star is in the mail.

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#43 Tim in Kelowna
August 28 2013, 09:23AM
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I love this. As far as I'm concerned you want the most dedicated guy on the team to be the leader. Sam is that guy - he never quits and every time he drops the gloves I find myself shedding a tear of pride.

Taylor Hall is the best player on the team and he makes a good leader on the ice and (likely) in the dressing room. But Hall is a punk off the ice and the last thing the Oilers need is the Captain representing the team poorly around town.

Sam is both a enthusiastic youngster and a classy veteran. He represents the youth movement but he also has the maturity to deal with the media and the fans appropriately.

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#44 Yakman
August 28 2013, 09:25AM
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I'm always amazed at how many people take the DSF bait. The reality is that we don't know how this team will fair in the coming years... But I would hesitate to bet against Taylor Hall, Yakupov, Schultz, etc. This team reminds me of the 1996 oilers. Lots of promise bubbling. My prediction is Sam will be a good captain and we make the playoffs either this year or next. When we start making the playoffs we will start attracting bargain free agents. Then we start doing some damage!

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#45 oilerjed
August 27 2013, 09:38PM
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If you are not giving it to Smytty of all the players on the oil right now Sam has probably earned it the most.

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#46 Dennis
August 27 2013, 10:00PM
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Do we get to hear Kevin Quinn call him thecaptainsamgagner now? If this is true, good on Sam. He takes a lot of crap and never complains about anything, good captain material.

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#47 106 and 106
August 28 2013, 12:30AM
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Shoot - I thought Omark would get the nod.

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#48 Czar
August 28 2013, 01:05AM
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@Serious Gord

2-3 years from now both hall and gagner will still be in their prime years - under what pretext would gagner surrender the c willingly? Name another example of that happening.

Fogolin gave up the C when it was clear that Gretzky was ready and it was his team. Fogolin definately wasn't in his prime but I feel Gagner is cut from the same cloth, he'd do whatever is best for the team.

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#49 They're $hittie
August 28 2013, 08:44AM
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Spydyr wrote:

I'm so tired of the eight points in one game stuff.

If Gretzky played between Ebs and Hall he would get eight points three times a year but then again he is in his fifties now.

also if you are tired of it you truly aren't an oilers fan. Finally through all the meritocracy something magical happens and you cant embrace it.

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