THEIR TIME, THEIR PLACE

Robin Brownlee
September 15 2013 10:14PM

It’s not like Dallas Eakins took a jackhammer to the Wayne Gretzky statue or scaled the rafters in Rexall Place to yank down the sacred linen lifted by the Edmonton Oilers. He’s simply decided to rid his team’s dressing room of some clutter from glory days long past. It’s about time.

While there’s likely an Oiler fan or two who’ll take the renovations that are underway in the dressing room as disrespecting or minimalizing past glories and the players who made them possible on a team that’s won five Stanley Cups, that strikes me as a bit of a reach.

Removing some old photos, plaques and various dusty odds and ends from the dressing room isn’t about turning a cold shoulder to an era when Gretzky, Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Glen Sather and the rest of the Boys On The Bus made the Oilers the toast of the NHL. It's Eakins way, he explains, of shifting the focus to the players here now. Of looking ahead instead of constantly back.

Even as a sportswriter old enough to have witnessed the tail-end of the days of parades on Jasper Avenue, and being of an age to put considerable value in the trappings of tradition younger folks might not, count me as on board with the renovations Eakins is undertaking.

LOOKING AHEAD

It hasn’t taken Eakins, hired this off-season, long at all to put his stamp on this team. Some might say he’s packing a lot of brass to ask that the old plaques and photos be gathered up and moved elsewhere inside Rexall Place so fans can enjoy them. Out with the old, save those five replica Stanley Cups and some odds and ends, in with the new.

"Listen, when we walk in that door, there’s five Stanley Cups standing there," Eakins told reporters Sunday. "That’s a great piece of history. That’s the only thing that counts.

"I thought it was really important that our team be featured in that room. I’m going to do my best to make sure that there is a picture of every guy on our roster in that room somewhere. That is their dressing room. It is not Mark Messier’s dressing room, and this is no disrespect. We will definitely try and emulate the play of those teams and the success they had. I just want these guys to be comfortable with their room."

So, while photos of Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sam Gagner and Nail Yakupov might not yet have the same cachet as much of the old stuff that's come off the walls – really, will anybody miss the teams of the mid-1990s? – it's not like Eakins is tossing out tradition like garage sail fodder.

HERE AND NOW

I see no issue of disrespecting tradition -- one could make the case that the years since the last Cup in 1990, including seven straight seasons out of the playoffs, is a far greater affront to TBOTB. You think Eakins didn’t run all this past GM Craig MacTavish and Kevin Lowe?

Some new paint and new carpet doesn't diminish what the remarkable teams of the 1980s accomplished. The engraver's work is done. The HHOF is filled with photographs and records and tokens marking the wonderful careers of Gretzky, Messier, Grant Fuhr, Jari Kurri, Paul Coffey, Glenn Anderson and Sather. The dressing room need not be.

Modest as it might be here and now in 2013, it's home to a completely new generation of Oiler players. This is their place.

BELOV IN TOWN?

While there's no official confirmation from the Oilers, a tip of the cap might be in order to reader TonyT., who said in the comments section of my previous item that he saw Russian Anton Belov at the airport this evening. I'm led to believe that is, indeed, the case. We'll find out Monday morning at Rexall Place.

Listen to Robin Brownlee Wednesdays and Thursdays from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. on the Jason Gregor Show on TEAM 1260.

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#51 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
September 16 2013, 12:33PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Like the new ways the Oilers have been using to win? Seven years outside the payoffs. How is that working for you?

Perhaps hard work and effort do have their merits. Not everyone deserves a prize for showing up. Earn it.

I didn't mention the Oilers in my comment because it was aimed at the "baby boomers are the best", "Gen Y is [insert derogatory superlative]" sentiment that permeates the average workplace and the mainstream media.

When I have a comment to make about the state of the Oilers, I'll be sure to mention them explicitly so you can be absolutely certain.

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#52 Spydyr
September 16 2013, 12:48PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

I didn't mention the Oilers in my comment because it was aimed at the "baby boomers are the best", "Gen Y is [insert derogatory superlative]" sentiment that permeates the average workplace and the mainstream media.

When I have a comment to make about the state of the Oilers, I'll be sure to mention them explicitly so you can be absolutely certain.

Perhaps if Gen Y had a can do attitude instead of thinking the world owes them something for showing up that sentiment would change.

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#53 TigerUnderGlass
September 16 2013, 12:49PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

I didn't mention the Oilers in my comment because it was aimed at the "baby boomers are the best", "Gen Y is [insert derogatory superlative]" sentiment that permeates the average workplace and the mainstream media.

When I have a comment to make about the state of the Oilers, I'll be sure to mention them explicitly so you can be absolutely certain.

Yeah.That guy's crazy for assuming you were talking about the Oilers.

In an Oilers comment thread.

On an Oilers article.

On a site dedicated to the Oilers.

Who does he think he is?

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#54 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
September 16 2013, 12:56PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Perhaps if Gen Y had a can do attitude instead of thinking the world owes them something for showing up that sentiment would change.

Those assumptions are generally regarded as spurious by most reputable sources, but you're more than welcome to think whatever you'd like in spite of all that data.

Here's an example.

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#55 lostdog82
September 16 2013, 12:58PM
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Old pictures and replica cups are for fans. Half of the oilers were in diapers when we won the last cup. Acknowledge the history and move on. Think hall cares about being compared to messier ? Hall probably never saw messier play a game. Oilers dressing room should be a mancave too the men that spend time in there not a shrine to those that have left. Move on edmonton its time.

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#56 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
September 16 2013, 01:00PM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

Yeah.That guy's crazy for assuming you were talking about the Oilers.

In an Oilers comment thread.

On an Oilers article.

On a site dedicated to the Oilers.

Who does he think he is?

Old Retired Guy made a sweeping generalization about an entire generation of people, and I took issue with it.

Spydyr suggests that my protest is an endorsement of the current state of the team, which it was not.

A little reading comprehension goes a long way sometimes.

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#57 vetinari
September 16 2013, 01:12PM
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Turning back to hockey and the original article...

I'm all for turning the dressing room over to the current Oilers and making them feel that this is their home... one year, the CFL's Riders had a map up on the wall with every player's jersey number on a pin located at their hometown and they could quickly see who was from where... they also had a "family wall" where players put pictures of themselves up with their families because that was who they ultimately played for and did not want to disappoint. Anything that makes these players feel invested in the team and the city can only be a good thing for the long term...

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#58 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
September 16 2013, 01:17PM
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vetinari wrote:

Turning back to hockey and the original article...

I'm all for turning the dressing room over to the current Oilers and making them feel that this is their home... one year, the CFL's Riders had a map up on the wall with every player's jersey number on a pin located at their hometown and they could quickly see who was from where... they also had a "family wall" where players put pictures of themselves up with their families because that was who they ultimately played for and did not want to disappoint. Anything that makes these players feel invested in the team and the city can only be a good thing for the long term...

The map is a cool idea. "Hey, do you know..." conversations about people's hometowns help the players draw connections to each other. I haven't lived in Edmonton for quite awhile, but in a lot of ways it's pretty similar to Winnipeg. Six degrees of separation in Winnipeg is often one or two, tops.

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#59 Spydyr
September 16 2013, 01:18PM
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vetinari wrote:

Turning back to hockey and the original article...

I'm all for turning the dressing room over to the current Oilers and making them feel that this is their home... one year, the CFL's Riders had a map up on the wall with every player's jersey number on a pin located at their hometown and they could quickly see who was from where... they also had a "family wall" where players put pictures of themselves up with their families because that was who they ultimately played for and did not want to disappoint. Anything that makes these players feel invested in the team and the city can only be a good thing for the long term...

Maybe they can hold hands and sing Kumbaya too.

I would rather they start winning and put up a few pictures of this team holding big silver trophies.

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#60 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
September 16 2013, 01:37PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

I have next-to-no respect for people with this attitude. I've had to deal with people like you in the workplace for the past 10 years and it gets old fast.

Your sentiment could just as easily be turned on its head by suggesting that your generation is so psychologically fragile that it can't cope with the fact that there are different and valid ways to do things than what you've been used to for the past 35 years.

Get over yourself.

Well done Pretty Things.....you get a blue ribbon!

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#61 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
September 16 2013, 01:43PM
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pkam wrote:

You probably didn't watch the press conference. Those pictures and cups will be moved to the public area instead of staying inside the locker room, which in Eakins opinion, belongs to the current players. It has nothing to do with winning or losing, it is all about the feeling of ownership and belonging.

How do you feel when you walk into your bedroom and there is picture of somebody else, like your wife's friends, instead of you? Or trophies and awards of your brothers?

Do you put trophies and awards of one kid in the room of the other kids to motivate them?

Yes...actually....you do....that's my point.....my older brother and cousins won tons of awards....and I was proud of them....and that pride encouraged me to go out and try to replicate their success.....

But like I said I have no issue with the dressing room remodel.....I just take exception to those who think that our Oilers stars are that psychologically fragile....I just don't buy it.

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#62 pkam
September 16 2013, 02:16PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Yes...actually....you do....that's my point.....my older brother and cousins won tons of awards....and I was proud of them....and that pride encouraged me to go out and try to replicate their success.....

But like I said I have no issue with the dressing room remodel.....I just take exception to those who think that our Oilers stars are that psychologically fragile....I just don't buy it.

If you are motivated by the success of your older brother and cousins, that is great. But do you like your parents making replica of their awards and trophies and putting them in your room to rub you?

If you are motivated, you don't need those rubs. If you are not, those rubs will only generate negative effects.

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#63 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
September 16 2013, 02:26PM
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pkam wrote:

If you are motivated by the success of your older brother and cousins, that is great. But do you like your parents making replica of their awards and trophies and putting them in your room to rub you?

If you are motivated, you don't need those rubs. If you are not, those rubs will only generate negative effects.

I could make a funny about the "negative rubs".....but I'll take the high road here and just repeat that, I have no issue with the dressing room remodel, I just take exception to those who think that our Oilers stars are that psychologically fragile....I just don't buy it.

But hey, that's what this site is for....so that people with differing opinions ....like you and I ....can express ourselves and maybe even challenge each other.......I know that I've had some of my opinions change based on some of the insightful stuff that gets posted here .....and by some of the arguments too!

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#64 datFOZ
September 17 2013, 01:51AM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

I could make a funny about the "negative rubs".....but I'll take the high road here and just repeat that, I have no issue with the dressing room remodel, I just take exception to those who think that our Oilers stars are that psychologically fragile....I just don't buy it.

But hey, that's what this site is for....so that people with differing opinions ....like you and I ....can express ourselves and maybe even challenge each other.......I know that I've had some of my opinions change based on some of the insightful stuff that gets posted here .....and by some of the arguments too!

The team doesn't have to be psychologically fragile for this to be a positive move, or a necessary one, from a coaching perspective.

This is Eakins' show now, and he's doing what he feels will help move the team forward. If moving the relics of the past out and into the concourses accomplishes this, he's going to do it.

I don't think it speaks to the players' psychological state whatsoever.

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#65 Devolution
September 17 2013, 04:22AM
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Maybe they can hold hands and sing Kumbaya too.

I would rather they start winning and put up a few pictures of this team holding big silver trophies.

Lighten up, Francis

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#66 Devolution
September 17 2013, 04:24AM
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Lighten up, Francis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs

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#67 TigerUnderGlass
September 17 2013, 07:39PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Old Retired Guy made a sweeping generalization about an entire generation of people, and I took issue with it.

Spydyr suggests that my protest is an endorsement of the current state of the team, which it was not.

A little reading comprehension goes a long way sometimes.

Ha Ha. Good one. I see what you did there. Reading comprehension.... hee heee. You got me.

Be sure you got the point before making "reading comprehension" jokes in the future. That was both ridiculous and unnecessary.

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