GDB -6: JETTING TO WINNIPEG

Jason Gregor
September 17 2013 08:00AM

The Oilers will have their pregame skate in Edmonton this morning, and then fly to Winnipeg this afternoon to take on the Jets. That would never happen in the regular season, but that's life in the preseason.

For many of the veterans it is another opportunity to sharpen their skills, while those on the bubble hope to impress Dallas Eakins, and for some it is likely their final preseason game.

After Saturday's split-squad games vs. the Flames the Oilers have had a few days to try and learn Eakins new systems. It will take a few games before every player is completely comfortable with the new system, so expect a few defensive breakdowns.

 When you look down tonight's roster it seems easy to pick who falls into the category of veteran sharpening his skill, bubble boys and guys destined for reassignment.

LINEUP

Jones-Gagner-Omark
Joensuu-Lander-Pitlick
R. Hamilton-Arcobello-Yakupov
Moroz-Martindale-Abney

Smid-Petry
Grebeshkov-Klefbom
Larsen-Davidson

LaBarbera
Bachman

Gagner, Jones, Yakupov, Smid, Petry, Grebeshkov and LaBarbera are safe bets to be on the team.

Lander, Joensuu, Omark, Hamilton, Arcobello and Larsen are in battle for a roster spot up front or on the backend.

Martindale, Abney, Bachman, Pitlick and Davidson will be heading to OKC eventually.

It looks like Klefbom will start the season in OKC, which will allow him to get comfortable to the North American game, and I won't be surprised if his recalled at some point this season.

Moroz will be heading back to junior, likely on Wednesday, and get set for the Oil Kings season opener this coming Friday.

Joensuu, Hamilton and Arcobello had strong first games, but playing well early in preseason isn't as important as playing well late when the rosters are filled with more NHL caliber players. They will need to build on their strong start to stay ahead of the pack.

Omark, Lander and Larsen were okay in their debuts, but a strong performance tonight could put them right back on track. Tonight is Pitlick's first opportunity to impress the coaches, and he feels he is ready to take a serious run at a roster spot. Davidson has impressed early in camp, but he'll need some more seasoning in the AHL before he's ready for a regular

Tonight's game will be streamed live on the Oilers website at 6 p.m. MST.

JETS LINEUP...

Tonight's lineup will come from this group of forwards and D-men. It sounds like the top three lines and top four D-men will dress, and then the 4th line and final D pairing will be decided at the morning skate. When I get confirmation I will edit the lineup to the usual 18 skaters.

***Edit*** Here is the Jets lineup.***

Kane-Jokinen-Setoguchi
Wright-Scheifele-Frolik
Telegin-Slater-Peluso
Tangradi-O'Dell-Klingberg


Byfuglien-Clitsome
Stuart-Postma
Trouba-Melchiori

Pavelec
Montoya

DALLAS THE DOER

Yesterday on my radio show, Ryan Jones talked about gaining confidence, trying to get back to his style of play and the impact Eakins has had on the organization. 

Jason Gregor: It’s pre-season and I’m not sure if there are any studies that say that if you score in the pre-season, it carries over but it’s always good to score for a guy like you. Does it build confidence when you get a goal early in the pre-season?  

Ryan Jones: It has to. Even if you score in shinny hockey or in practise you get a little bit more confidence. So it has to. You know what, that goal just reiterates what I have to do to be a successful player.  

I’ve said all along that I’m trying to get back to the way that I was playing a couple of years ago which made me successful and that’s exactly what I did in the exhibition game; just be a pain in the ass. Sorry, can I say that? Be a pain in the butt [laughs], get to the front of the net because there are so many guys throughout this line-up who are so good with the puck and there is no sense in me, once I can get in there. Bang a body, get the puck on their stick, it’s useless for me to crowd those guys.  

So to get in front of the net, to crowd that net area, to allow them to have a little bit of space, to allow them to bring it to the net is the most ideal thing that I can do. Especially when I’m playing with [David] Perron. Once I got in, I made a hit and the puck goes to him there’s no sense in following that guy around. He’s skilled enough to make plays and get it into the net so I just made it a point to put my butt in the goalie’s face and try to make as much havoc as I could. We had a tonne of grade ‘A’ scoring chances out of me doing it.  

Gregor: Do the goalies look smaller with the smaller pads? Have you noticed it at all?  

Jones: It’s funny because when we were skating in Minnesota and Josh Harding wore them, I thought that he looked tiny. When he put his pads together and stood in the net, it just looked like there was so much open net. Other than that one time, I haven’t really noticed.  

You know what? They all look gigantic in there. It seems like every time I come down to shoot there are very little openings but like I said, that’s not my game. Usually they’re on their back or their sides or their knees when I’m chipping pucks in so they pretty much all look the same for me.  

Gregor: Dallas Eakins has come in and made some subtle things; the locker room is different, the pictures are down, he has a big focus on nutrition, he’s a real task master on wanting the guys to be in shape. Did this team need a real culture change and have you noticed it from your head coach?  

Jones: I have noticed it. You want to know what, there are doers and talkers and we’ve unfortunately had a lot of people who were great talkers. And I mean even to you guys, they answered all of the questions the right way but it seemed like it was never different in the room compared to when I came here all of the way through last year.

Yeah we got a little bit better, we got younger, we got more skilled, but even in the locker room with the guys there were a lot of guys who seemed to talk the right game but nothing ever seemed to get done.

I haven’t heard Dallas say very many words outside of what you guys ask him, but he just does everything. He shows us in this locker room what he wants to be done by example. He wants something done, he goes out there, he shows us, we do it. And he demands that out of us. That’s what this locker room needs. He’s going to demand everything out of everybody and Dallas, as far as I can tell, is exactly that guy. From what I’ve heard, and briefly seen, he’s a player’s coach, he’s demanding and his accountability is second to none.
 

Gregor: He talked earlier about how he likes longer practices and he likes to push guys. What did you think about the practice?  

Jones: [Laughs] They are fairly long, but you know what, they’re detailed and you’re not just out there wasting time. You’re never out there just doing a shooting drill to do a shooting drill. Everything that we did out there on the ice today was a team game, some sort of aspect of what we’re going to need to do to win and be a successful team. At the end we got to do a shoot a puck but everything else was a backcheck or a forecheck or faceoffs. There’s no wasted time when you’re out there and that’s good because it keeps you on your toes and it keeps your mind in every single practice, that’s what we need. We can’t have any guys sleeping at any point in time. 

PARTING SHOTS....

Jones' comments on Eakins being a doer, and not just a talker spoke volumes. I think we'd all agree that for the past few seasons we've heard a lot of talk, but we never saw the action match the words.

Eakins has shown he isn't afraid to make changes. Will changing the paint and decor of a room make the Oilers play better on the ice, unlikely, but it illustrates that Eakins won't be sticking with the status quo. Yesterday's practice was uptempo the entire time, and it will be interesting to watch how they practice throughout the year.

I've written on many occasions the past few years how different the Oilers practices were compared to other teams. Chicago and Detroit had quicker paced practices, especially their puck drills.

He wants to change the culture in his dressing room, and he will make his players more accountable on the ice. He's outlined a new workout routine that he expects the players to follow. He's given them an outline for what he expects on practice days, as well as game days.

Some players won't be impacted by the changes, because many of them had pre-skate work out routines as well as post-game routines, but it will be different for some. It is no longer optional.

  • ESPN ranked the top-50 D-men in the NHL and J.Schultz was the only Oiler to crack the list at #40. I was surprised to see Ekman-Larsson and McDonagh ahead of Pietrangelo, albeit only a few spots, but overall I'd agree with most of the rankings. Your thoughts? Schultz is ranked a bit high, if you go off last seasons numbers, but I suspect they added his potential when ranking him. His overall game will be much better this year compared to last season.

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#101 WONGER
September 17 2013, 10:28PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Not an unexpected outcome considering there was maybe only 5 players in the lineup who will be on the opening nights roster.

Hunker down, it'll be well into the New Year before we see the fruits of Eakins labour starting to take shape on this team. The sooner the players buy in, the earlier this team will start seeing results. Could take 2 yrs for Dallas Eakins to weed out the non participants on this upcoming current roster.

Eakins looks to be what this team needs right now. It's unfortunate it's back to square one yet again as far as making this his hockey club.

I agree that EAKINS and MACT are top notch but this team is facing an IMPOSSIBLE task overcoming its lack of toughness!!! Look at the D. SOFT except for FERENCE and maybe SMID. Need about 6 more guys who can compete and FIGHT - YES FIGHT!!!

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#102 Spydyr
September 18 2013, 07:05AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Not an unexpected outcome considering there was maybe only 5 players in the lineup who will be on the opening nights roster.

Hunker down, it'll be well into the New Year before we see the fruits of Eakins labour starting to take shape on this team. The sooner the players buy in, the earlier this team will start seeing results. Could take 2 yrs for Dallas Eakins to weed out the non participants on this upcoming current roster.

Eakins looks to be what this team needs right now. It's unfortunate it's back to square one yet again as far as making this his hockey club.

Eakins will make it all better. Just like the three coaches in three years before him. It is different this time.

Enjoy your kool-aid.

Unless the players buy in Eakinis will be gone in short order also.

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#103 Mikey
September 18 2013, 08:49AM
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Spydyr wrote:

I never said the players aren't buying in. Of course it is way too early to tell. What I said was "Unless the players buy in Eakinis will be gone in short order also. "

Short order to me would be next summer .Like the last three coaches. They were going to make everything better too .Remember?

So you think they would trade Hall or Nuge or Yak before getting rid of Eakins."Get your head out of the sand."

I don't mean to be rude or insulting but you're retarded if you think Eakins will be gone next summer.

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#104 Mikey
September 18 2013, 09:11AM
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Spydyr wrote:

What do you base that on? The record of the last three coaches?

Once again for the people that can't comprehend I said "UNLESS". I hope Eakins is the best coach in the history of the game and wins five Cups here. The team's recent record with coaches suggest otherwise. Every team sells hope this time of year.After the last seven years I will hold off on calling Eakins the second coming of Scotty Bowman.Until he does something like say win his first NHL game!

Excatly, I base that on the fact the last two coaches only lasted two and one year.

I understand you said unless, the fact remains you still think there is a posibilty. I would say there is a 0.0% chance Eakins is fired inside of three years.

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#105 Ivan Drago
September 18 2013, 09:26AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Spydyr makes a good point. What if one/some/all of the fab 5 don't buy into Dallas' gameplan, you do have your head in the sand if you don't think it will be Eakins who falls on that sword. Where do all these puckers who don't know this, keep coming from.....darn kids.

One player, no, he will be gone before Eakins. Some already think one of the kids needs to be traded, if one had a bad attitude, sure it would make that decision easier. Again, why do you think Seguin got traded? It sure as hell wasn't because he's a bad hockey player.

More than one or even two, yeah Eakins may then be in trouble, but what evidence is there that all the kids suddenly aren't buying into Eakins. None right now, at all. That's the point here. Quit with the doom and gloom after 2 pre season games for crying out aloud. There have been pre seasons where the oilers almost won them all, then finished dead last in regular season. It means nothing. Guarantee Eakins is here for at least 3 seasons, worst case scenario.

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#106 Spurzey
September 18 2013, 09:32AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Spydyr makes a good point. What if one/some/all of the fab 5 don't buy into Dallas' gameplan, you do have your head in the sand if you don't think it will be Eakins who falls on that sword. Where do all these puckers who don't know this, keep coming from.....darn kids.

That would have happened under Stumbellini's regime. MacT will make a difference.

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#107 Zipdot
September 17 2013, 09:42AM
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@Reg Dunlop

Do you have a picture link of the Queen's pic? I like that kind of oldschool Canadian stuff.

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#108 Terranq
September 17 2013, 10:16AM
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geoilersgist wrote:

This is actually a very useful service, however people looking for *free* hockey still have to pay for gamecentre and $5/month for unblock-us.

Seriously though the $5/month is worth it without gamecentre. American netflix is great...

Use adfreetime. Same service as unblock-us, only $1.99/mth

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#109 Walter Sobchak
September 17 2013, 10:18AM
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Hmmm. I have an I-Pad, does anyone know the best package to buy to stream games? What carrier to use?

Totally off topic sorry.

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#110 terranq
September 17 2013, 12:06PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

The Firefox plugin 'MediaHint' does the same thing for free.

Yeah, but adtimefree and unblock-us can be set at the router level, so any devices connected to the internet are covered. For example, I have a roku box which I use for netflix. mediahint wouldn't work for this, but adfreetime does

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#111 striatic
September 17 2013, 12:38PM
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i have and pay for nhl game center, in the states.

none of these preseason games have been available over it.

lots of preseason games on firstrow though. the edmonton game will likely be streamed from there, although no guarantees.

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#112 datFOZ
September 17 2013, 01:02PM
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@ColorMeImpressed

Phaneuf has never been able to drive play like Subban. All that bad positioning got him was a Norris trophy and some of the best possession numbers from the back end in the league over the last two years. He's literally Weber-class. Lumping him with Phaneuf (who is still a legitimate top pairing NHL defenseman) isn't giving Subban enough credit.

@pkam

Anyone who discounts Subban for his defensive work needs to attribute Letang with the same flaws. Doughty is a beast though, but I don't consider Subban a full tier below him, not by any stretch.

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#113 Rocket
September 17 2013, 02:05PM
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So how much will RNH get paid?

I would rather a long term deal with less money than a shorter more expensive contract. True #1 centres are not that easy to get so I think locking Nuge up for at least 6 years would be pretty cool.

Also, Ryan Jones needs to prove this season that he belongs on The Oilers. No more cheating for offense but quality 2-way play. And if he can bring the grit all the better.

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#114 datFOZ
September 17 2013, 02:31PM
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@pkam

Just guessing here, but I recall Eakins saying that he wanted everybody in camp to see at least one EXI game if possible before getting sent. It's all about that experience, that taste, that glimpse as to what they are working towards.

I don't think Abney got into either Calgary game, so after he gets work either tonight or tomorrow he'll likely be on the first bus back to wherever they want to hide him.

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#115 pkam
September 17 2013, 03:00PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

He will be going down soon...He gets one preseason game like most guys destined for the minors.

As for Rajala, he wanted out of his contract so he could make more money in Europe. Abney had zero impact on Rajala's situation. Rajala is a free agent now, but he wasn't close to being an NHL player.

Oilers keep the right of Omark when he played in Switzerland, right? So we should be able to let Rajala play in Europe and keep his right, unless Rajala has decided he will not return to NHL.

What I heard is that Oilers is running close to the 50 roster spot so they choose to release Rajala. I don't know how much truth in that rumor. But if it is true, I would rather they release Abney and keep Rajala, even he chooses to play in Europe for a year or 2.

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#116 pkam
September 17 2013, 03:04PM
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datFOZ wrote:

That KO was game one. The same night Eberle scored his wondergoal. Evidently, the league didn't get the memo.

If you want to send a message, wouldn't you think game 1 is the best timing?

If KO is not effective enough and missed by the whole league, what else can be more effective?

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#117 pkam
September 17 2013, 04:37PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

He asked to get out. It was mutual, both sides agreed. Simple. Nothing more to it. It makes sense. You don't want a player who doesn't want to be here, and Rajala was not close to being an NHL player, and most likely never will be.

The Oilers currently have 47 contracts, (I don't include Nurse or Khaira since when they go to junior they don't count towards 50), so the Oilers had no reason to just buyout Abney. They aren't at max of contracts.

Omark wanted out too, didn't he? And I believe probably Hartikainen too. But Oilers choose to hang on to them.

Is Omark any better than Rajala? If you ask me, they are about the same size but Rajala skates better and is younger so I'll give the edge to Rajala.

Not saying that Rajala will make NHL, but I think Rajala definitely has better chance of making the NHL than Abney.

It only makes sense to me if they know for sure that Rajala will not return to NHL because it is hard to believe Abney is more likely to make NHL than Rajala.

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#118 Mikey
September 17 2013, 04:44PM
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pkam wrote:

I don't think Subban is better than Drew Doughty though, and probably not better than Letang. He may later but at least not now.

They are about the same in my books (Doughty and Subban) They both had a really good year, and are solid D. With Subban at this moment in time a better player. Cause you know, he just won the "Best defender" award.

As for Letang... I take Subban over him erry day. I like my D men to be able to do more than just get points (which subban is better at)

Letang G44 A165 .54PPG

PK G32 A82 .56 PPG

PK hits hard, and is hated by everyone, except people in Montreal. Wish the oilers had someone like that....

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#119 Quicksilver ballet
September 17 2013, 06:09PM
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@Ivan Drago

.....says the guy who can barely afford to pay attention. Might want to run that possible expense by your trophy (guess they can't all be first place, eh Ivan?) wife first. May want to start saving the allowance she gives you.

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#120 Genious
September 17 2013, 07:47PM
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Thumby wrote:

Don't you love it when a "genious" uses words he can't spell?

maybe he was being SARCASTIC REtREAD!!!

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#121 jetsfan
September 17 2013, 08:29PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

You did read the rosters, right? The Oil are essentially icing an AHL team tonight.

Yakupov, Gagner, Petry, Smid, all part of your AHL team I assume? Sureee..

Any team the Oil comes up with will get spanked here in winnipeg. The rookie tourny, the preseason, first regular season game come Oct 1st. Been a nice few results thus far.

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#122 jetsfan
September 17 2013, 08:34PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

3/10. Your troll-fu needs work, grasshopper. There is a powerful shaman by the name of DSF, he can show you the way.

I'm not trolling I'm just saying, the results speak for themselves no? If your excuse is going to be that it's an AHL lineup and the Oilers are missing the best players, then the same can be said for the opposition missing Ladd Little Wheeler. So that's a wash.

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#123 Bushed
September 17 2013, 09:07PM
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datFOZ wrote:

WTF does Subban's perceived (yes, perceived, you have NO idea what he's like personally) attitude have to do with you, or with his ability to be the best defender in the NHL last year?

I will agree that Kronwall and Phaneuf are overrated, but Subban is a legitimate Weber-calibre defender, and anyone who still thinks otherwise is simply incorrect.

Re-read carefully and you will understand that I did not say Subban could not play defense.

By the way, you have no idea what he is like personally, either. But you obviously didn't pay attention to the many reports of Subban's on-ice antics. You don't have to agree with them (it's called an opinion, and people are allowed to have ones that differ from yours without responding with "WTF").

You love Subban. Great.

I prefer Doughty and others.

Get over it, it's just a hockey blog...

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#124 Rod from Viking
September 17 2013, 09:39PM
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@REALLY!!!

Yes, he asked him right in front of us in our tier one seats, Halls hit was more of a rub out but I had to throw that in.

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#125 Rocket
September 17 2013, 09:43PM
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Seemed like a pretty standard pre-season game: Lots of mistakes, players unsure what to do/where to be, and half-assed play (I'm looking at you Mr. Gagner).

Yak looked good. Omark looked like Omark which is either good or bad depending on your opinion of him.

And what's with the crappy ice? The way the puck was bouncing around I thought I was watching a Playoff game in Boston!

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#126 HardBoiledOil
September 18 2013, 07:37AM
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madjam wrote:

Oilers showed better than expected considering our lineup . Veterans showed rust and mistakes . Landers , Grebs and Omark did little to impress making opening roster . Gagner seemed to be slow a foot and not efficient on faceoffs . He is capable of much better . Bachman played well . Most disturbing is another loss , while arch rival Flames rip off back to back wins against the Isles . Eakins has got to be concerned with mounting losses even if it is early . Once again we got pushed around a lot physically . We seem to have nothing physically to hurt other clubs like they can hurt us .

i doubt Eakins is all that concerned about pre season losses so relax. the pre season is after all a time when you have a good look at all you free agents, AHLers and juniors and recent draft picks to evaluate who will be in the starting lineup. the losses will be a tell tale sign of who can bring it and who can't and who isn't ready to bring it yet. if the losses start to pile up during the regular season, then i hope Dallas has been given permission to make any moves that he sees fit to make in order to win.

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#127 madjam
September 18 2013, 07:45AM
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Bring back Kreuger ?

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#128 Spurzey
September 18 2013, 08:45AM
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Spydyr wrote:

I never said the players aren't buying in. Of course it is way too early to tell. What I said was "Unless the players buy in Eakinis will be gone in short order also. "

Short order to me would be next summer .Like the last three coaches. They were going to make everything better too .Remember?

So you think they would trade Hall or Nuge or Yak before getting rid of Eakins."Get your head out of the sand."

I would like to think that MacT and Eakins were hired to bring some continuity and stability to the team. No more of the "insane running the asylum" If one of the top 5 or 6 didn't buy in, they would be gone in a heartbeat to fill some of the holes.

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#129 Spurzey
September 18 2013, 08:56AM
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Spydyr wrote:

I would like to think that too. Here is to hoping that this year will be better than the last seven. It is the time of year to sell hope. The team said the same thing the last three coaches. This is the guy to turn things around. I love the Oilers but I'm tired of getting smoke blown up my butt every fall. Obviously some people are not tired of it yet.

The roster changes alone give me more value for the hope they are selling. There will be more changes until the team becomes successful.

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#130 Mikey
September 18 2013, 09:42AM
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Spydyr wrote:

So your saying a coach who has never coached at this level has no chance of getting fired in three years?

A quick google search:

NHL coaches have an average tenure of 2.3 seasons behind the bench.

You have consumed all spin the team has sent your way.

What spin? So just because I have a different view point than you I must be under some sort of influence or am blindy following someone else.

Also where did you get 2.3?

"By including all 30 teams in the NHL... During the 60 years covered in our study....This suggests that the average tenure for coaches was 3.54 seasons...." http://iveybusinessjournal.com/topics/leadership/leadership-succession-what-can-we-learn-from-the-national-hockey-league#.UjnIpWXHSDc

"The average tenure of an NHL coach is 2.86 years in 2011." http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/the-nhl-coaching-landscape-then-and-now?urn=nhl,wp11270

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#131 Quicksilver ballet
September 18 2013, 09:49AM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

And for the record, I stopped paying attention to you long ago.

...and then you go and write this jibberish.

One player, no, he will be gone before Eakins. Some already think one of the kids needs to be traded, if one had a bad attitude, sure it would make that decision easier. Again, why do you think Seguin got traded? It sure as hell wasn't because he's a bad hockey player.

More than one or even two, yeah Eakins may then be in trouble, but what evidence is there that all the kids suddenly aren't buying into Eakins. None right now, at all. That's the point here. Quit with the doom and gloom after 2 pre season games for crying out aloud. There have been pre seasons where the oilers almost won them all, then finished dead last in regular season. It means nothing. Guarantee Eakins is here for at least 3 seasons, worst case scenario.

Thought we had an agreement Drago (you stopped paying attention long ago). Are you a liar, or does the truth keep changing, in your world? Take off eh, you hoser. Stick to your word, for once.

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#132 OilClog
September 17 2013, 08:57AM
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I can post! Woooooooooo. After Wideman nailed Joenssu the other day, I wouldn't expect him to drop the gloves too much, he had his chance and didnt.

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#133 Will
September 17 2013, 09:49AM
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I promised myself I'd wait till one month in to begin putting expectations on this team and the players. But it's soooo hard. Of all the things to come out of this training camp, I'm really hoping one of Joensuu, Jones, or Eager can be the successful big body wing that can play in our top nine with the skill guys.

Who knows if it will last, but Eakins certainly looks like he's trying to balance the team instead of just having one power line. It will be interesting to see how that strategy pays off in the regular season.

In addition to our pre season, it has been fun watching some other teams around the league, and the effects of some of the off season moves.

Iginla could have found his old self on a line with Kreichi and Lucic. If so, that would be one of the most difficult lines to play against in the NHL.

Clarkson looked pretty good on the leafs. I still think they overpaid, but he really does add that element every team is looking for.

Way too early prediction: Senators win the eastern conference in the regular season.

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#134 Tikkanese
September 17 2013, 09:54AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

You are probably right. Center Ice/Game Center probably have a lot to do with it...

But I still -- even in those cases -- don't follow the argument for regional blackouts. I mean obviously it is some kind of collusion between the broadcasters, cable providers and the NHL to get you to pay for everything... but it is really outdated thinking in the on-demand world.

And... that still doesn't explain why you would block exhibition games.

If it fixes the feed problems(no sound, buffering, not even loading period for some people, etc) then I'm ok with that. But if it is Rob Kerr doing the play by play, I'm more than fine with no sound!

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#135 Cary
September 17 2013, 09:55AM
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I live in Langley BC and I tried to stream the Edmonton/Calgary game the other day and I got “outside the viewing area” from the Edmonton Oilers website. However, I could stream the game from the Calgary website. I do have NHL Game Center and they do not show any preseason games.

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#136 justDOit
September 17 2013, 09:57AM
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@Where's Your Towel

Check out a browser plugin called Stealthy. It isn't perfect, but it worked all last year.

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#137 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
September 17 2013, 10:37AM
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Terranq wrote:

Use adfreetime. Same service as unblock-us, only $1.99/mth

The Firefox plugin 'MediaHint' does the same thing for free.

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#138 Romulus' Apotheosis
September 17 2013, 10:47AM
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Tikkanese wrote:

If it fixes the feed problems(no sound, buffering, not even loading period for some people, etc) then I'm ok with that. But if it is Rob Kerr doing the play by play, I'm more than fine with no sound!

Those were unrelated problems.

It seems it was NHL wide as a lot of teams were having trouble with the video streams. Should be fixed for tonight. The Oilers have a test site you can use to see if it is working for you (it will also verify if you are in the region):

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=92161

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#139 braidonh
September 17 2013, 11:15AM
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Also if you just use hidemya$$.com (obviously use correct spelling) and choose a proxy located in the states, hulu plus and american netflix work for you. 100% free. you just need understanding of how to copy and paste IP addresses, DNS host addresses ect.

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#140 Wonger
September 17 2013, 11:38AM
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@OilClog

Of course he didn't drop the gloves MORON!!! McGrattan was in their line-up and he would have been Joensuu's next fight! Watch the Calgary-Ottawa highlights. Jones runs around so SDAO (Ottawa) nails him. Stajan jumps Sdao. Sdao kicks the s%^t out of Stajan. Next time Sdao is on the ice, Hartley sends McGrattan after him. Sdao gets cut and dropped. Thats why nobody screws around with the Flames! Oilers don't have that luxury. We don't believe in enforcers like most of the other teams in the NHL do. Could you have imagined what McGrattan would have done to Sarich if he were an Oiler, and the coach let him do his job after Sarich steamrolled Hall two years ago! By the way, Matt Kassian was not in the Ottawa line-up last night, but he will be when these two teams meet again, and he will line up with McGrattan, and you can guess the rest! THE LEAGUE KNOWS NOT TO SCREW AROND WITH THE FLAMES EVEN IF THY START TROUBLE!!!!!

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#141 Wonger
September 17 2013, 12:26PM
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David S wrote:

I'll take a shot.

McGrattan will play about 2:30, basically doing no more than cruising around like a great white shark. Eventually he'll get his staged fight from some sucker looking to make an NHL roster where he'll be given a double minor and a game misconduct.

While short-handed the fLames will get scored on three times, effectively ending any chance to win the game ten minutes into the first period.

Sound about right?

NOT QUITE GENIOUS.....Calgary beats Edmonton in the standings and none of their stars get injured every year!!!!!!!

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#142 master of my domain
September 17 2013, 12:59PM
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as I check it though, it doesn't look like they have tonights game. I think they "borrow" their streams from gamecentre.

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#143 pkam
September 17 2013, 01:18PM
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datFOZ wrote:

@ColorMeImpressed

Phaneuf has never been able to drive play like Subban. All that bad positioning got him was a Norris trophy and some of the best possession numbers from the back end in the league over the last two years. He's literally Weber-class. Lumping him with Phaneuf (who is still a legitimate top pairing NHL defenseman) isn't giving Subban enough credit.

@pkam

Anyone who discounts Subban for his defensive work needs to attribute Letang with the same flaws. Doughty is a beast though, but I don't consider Subban a full tier below him, not by any stretch.

The difference between Subban and Letang is Subban was playing with Markov last year. He wasn't as good the year before without Markov. If Subban can keep playing as well this year, then I'll agree with you the two are tied. For now, Letang is ahead of Subban in my book.

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#144 Wonger
September 17 2013, 02:13PM
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The 90's were worse (Formerly Oilers need Ogie Oglethorpe) wrote:

Calgary beating Edm in the standings had nothing to do with their goalie, right? So can you explain to me why, even in all those games with Smacintyre, Hemsky was still getting run by every goon in the league, AND we still finished at the bottom?

Besides, if Joensu fights Wideman, who says he has to fight McGratten? He can skate away like the entire league did when Macintyre went looking for a fight after the fact.

As for the whole online video streaming: garbage. It didn't work for me out in Saskatoon. The whole system seems to be set up to make it difficult/expensive to get what you want legally (Game of Thrones style). If gigantic media corporations are gonna give me the runaround, and try to make obscene profits by screwing me, then I'm not going to play their games, especially when other options exist. I'll happily pay a reasonable amount for what I will actually use, but I'm not into paying way more money for crap I neither want nor will use.

Btw, I've purchased both seasons of G of T once available. And spent hundreds (probably thousands) on Oilers jerseys/tickets over the last 20 years. If anyone thinks I'm 'stealing' from the NhL, the Oilers or HBO, they have a very narrow vision of reality that I can't respect.

If the coach lets MacIntyre grab the offender and beat the tar out of him, regardless of the penalties, he will probably only have to do this once and THE MESSAGE WILL BE SENT!!!!! Don't MESS WITH THE OIL SKILL!!!!!

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#145 Maverick007
September 17 2013, 03:02PM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

For me Eakins is a blank slate, and that is a good thing. I haven't been impressed with MacT's moves aside from the masterful offloading of Horcoff's contract. Signing Jones was a very good move IMO. Signing freakinGrebeshkov not so much.

Eakin's gets a fresh start to try and do something with this roster. After this season he's going to be a bit more grey and have a higher hairline. I wish him luck.

What about Gordon, what about Ferrence?

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#146 pkam
September 17 2013, 03:09PM
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datFOZ wrote:

Just guessing here, but I recall Eakins saying that he wanted everybody in camp to see at least one EXI game if possible before getting sent. It's all about that experience, that taste, that glimpse as to what they are working towards.

I don't think Abney got into either Calgary game, so after he gets work either tonight or tomorrow he'll likely be on the first bus back to wherever they want to hide him.

I might be wrong but from what I remember, there are a couple that got cut yesterday didn't have any exhibition game.

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#147 pkam
September 17 2013, 03:15PM
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datFOZ wrote:

Subban had top-flight possession numbers without Markov the full season before.

http://www.coppernblue.com/2012/7/29/3196635/pk-subban-is-a-bad-person-and-oel-is-a-wimp

http://www.coppernblue.com/2012/4/12/2943259/young-defenseman-comparisons-nhl

Read the second one especially.

Subban's ppg was much better last year with Markov than the year before without Markov. Is there any data comparing his possession metrics in these two years?

Letang would be top 10 the year before, would anyone think Subban was top 10 the year before?

We will find out this year how much of Subban's improvement is related to help from Markov. Before this, I will put Letang ahead of Subban.

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#148 Romulus' Apotheosis
September 17 2013, 03:31PM
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pkam wrote:

That is Romulus' Apotheosis's comment, not mine.

I know the Oilers do not own Rajala's rights anymore when they put him on waiver and bought him out.

I just wonder why they keep Abney but release Rajala. Unless Rajala already decides he is not coming back to NHL, it makes no sense.

I think JG was responding to both of us here.

In the Matty article I linked Howson says he didn't want to hang on to Rajala to clog up the 50 man list.

If the question is why Abney and not Rajala... you have to remember Abney isn't a MacT signing. It's a new regime. My guess is MacT probably doesn't sign Abney (maybe not Ewanyk either).

Also, looking at the Omark/Rajala situation, it seems MacT is willing to let players run, i.e., try for a spot on the Oil or find work elsewhere. I wonder if he would have released Omark a couple of years ago?

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#149 Romulus' Apotheosis
September 17 2013, 03:34PM
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Bruce gets into a bit more of the CBA nuts and bolts of Rajala's situation here:

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/08/23/oilers-release-high-scoring-prospect-7-toni-rajala/

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#150 John Chambers
September 17 2013, 05:29PM
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pkam wrote:

The reason I didn't put Subban ahead of Letang is because of Markov.

Subban is much bigger this year than the year before. How much is it related to the presence of Markov?

A year ago, nobody would put Subban ahead of Letang. Letang didn't regress. But will Subban without Markov? Only time will tell.

Subban plays primarily with Josh Gorges. Hes also two years younger than Letang who was paired most often last season with former Prime Minister Paul Martin.

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