GDB -6: JETTING TO WINNIPEG

Jason Gregor
September 17 2013 08:00AM

The Oilers will have their pregame skate in Edmonton this morning, and then fly to Winnipeg this afternoon to take on the Jets. That would never happen in the regular season, but that's life in the preseason.

For many of the veterans it is another opportunity to sharpen their skills, while those on the bubble hope to impress Dallas Eakins, and for some it is likely their final preseason game.

After Saturday's split-squad games vs. the Flames the Oilers have had a few days to try and learn Eakins new systems. It will take a few games before every player is completely comfortable with the new system, so expect a few defensive breakdowns.

 When you look down tonight's roster it seems easy to pick who falls into the category of veteran sharpening his skill, bubble boys and guys destined for reassignment.

LINEUP

Jones-Gagner-Omark
Joensuu-Lander-Pitlick
R. Hamilton-Arcobello-Yakupov
Moroz-Martindale-Abney

Smid-Petry
Grebeshkov-Klefbom
Larsen-Davidson

LaBarbera
Bachman

Gagner, Jones, Yakupov, Smid, Petry, Grebeshkov and LaBarbera are safe bets to be on the team.

Lander, Joensuu, Omark, Hamilton, Arcobello and Larsen are in battle for a roster spot up front or on the backend.

Martindale, Abney, Bachman, Pitlick and Davidson will be heading to OKC eventually.

It looks like Klefbom will start the season in OKC, which will allow him to get comfortable to the North American game, and I won't be surprised if his recalled at some point this season.

Moroz will be heading back to junior, likely on Wednesday, and get set for the Oil Kings season opener this coming Friday.

Joensuu, Hamilton and Arcobello had strong first games, but playing well early in preseason isn't as important as playing well late when the rosters are filled with more NHL caliber players. They will need to build on their strong start to stay ahead of the pack.

Omark, Lander and Larsen were okay in their debuts, but a strong performance tonight could put them right back on track. Tonight is Pitlick's first opportunity to impress the coaches, and he feels he is ready to take a serious run at a roster spot. Davidson has impressed early in camp, but he'll need some more seasoning in the AHL before he's ready for a regular

Tonight's game will be streamed live on the Oilers website at 6 p.m. MST.

JETS LINEUP...

Tonight's lineup will come from this group of forwards and D-men. It sounds like the top three lines and top four D-men will dress, and then the 4th line and final D pairing will be decided at the morning skate. When I get confirmation I will edit the lineup to the usual 18 skaters.

***Edit*** Here is the Jets lineup.***

Kane-Jokinen-Setoguchi
Wright-Scheifele-Frolik
Telegin-Slater-Peluso
Tangradi-O'Dell-Klingberg


Byfuglien-Clitsome
Stuart-Postma
Trouba-Melchiori

Pavelec
Montoya

DALLAS THE DOER

Yesterday on my radio show, Ryan Jones talked about gaining confidence, trying to get back to his style of play and the impact Eakins has had on the organization. 

Jason Gregor: It’s pre-season and I’m not sure if there are any studies that say that if you score in the pre-season, it carries over but it’s always good to score for a guy like you. Does it build confidence when you get a goal early in the pre-season?  

Ryan Jones: It has to. Even if you score in shinny hockey or in practise you get a little bit more confidence. So it has to. You know what, that goal just reiterates what I have to do to be a successful player.  

I’ve said all along that I’m trying to get back to the way that I was playing a couple of years ago which made me successful and that’s exactly what I did in the exhibition game; just be a pain in the ass. Sorry, can I say that? Be a pain in the butt [laughs], get to the front of the net because there are so many guys throughout this line-up who are so good with the puck and there is no sense in me, once I can get in there. Bang a body, get the puck on their stick, it’s useless for me to crowd those guys.  

So to get in front of the net, to crowd that net area, to allow them to have a little bit of space, to allow them to bring it to the net is the most ideal thing that I can do. Especially when I’m playing with [David] Perron. Once I got in, I made a hit and the puck goes to him there’s no sense in following that guy around. He’s skilled enough to make plays and get it into the net so I just made it a point to put my butt in the goalie’s face and try to make as much havoc as I could. We had a tonne of grade ‘A’ scoring chances out of me doing it.  

Gregor: Do the goalies look smaller with the smaller pads? Have you noticed it at all?  

Jones: It’s funny because when we were skating in Minnesota and Josh Harding wore them, I thought that he looked tiny. When he put his pads together and stood in the net, it just looked like there was so much open net. Other than that one time, I haven’t really noticed.  

You know what? They all look gigantic in there. It seems like every time I come down to shoot there are very little openings but like I said, that’s not my game. Usually they’re on their back or their sides or their knees when I’m chipping pucks in so they pretty much all look the same for me.  

Gregor: Dallas Eakins has come in and made some subtle things; the locker room is different, the pictures are down, he has a big focus on nutrition, he’s a real task master on wanting the guys to be in shape. Did this team need a real culture change and have you noticed it from your head coach?  

Jones: I have noticed it. You want to know what, there are doers and talkers and we’ve unfortunately had a lot of people who were great talkers. And I mean even to you guys, they answered all of the questions the right way but it seemed like it was never different in the room compared to when I came here all of the way through last year.

Yeah we got a little bit better, we got younger, we got more skilled, but even in the locker room with the guys there were a lot of guys who seemed to talk the right game but nothing ever seemed to get done.

I haven’t heard Dallas say very many words outside of what you guys ask him, but he just does everything. He shows us in this locker room what he wants to be done by example. He wants something done, he goes out there, he shows us, we do it. And he demands that out of us. That’s what this locker room needs. He’s going to demand everything out of everybody and Dallas, as far as I can tell, is exactly that guy. From what I’ve heard, and briefly seen, he’s a player’s coach, he’s demanding and his accountability is second to none.
 

Gregor: He talked earlier about how he likes longer practices and he likes to push guys. What did you think about the practice?  

Jones: [Laughs] They are fairly long, but you know what, they’re detailed and you’re not just out there wasting time. You’re never out there just doing a shooting drill to do a shooting drill. Everything that we did out there on the ice today was a team game, some sort of aspect of what we’re going to need to do to win and be a successful team. At the end we got to do a shoot a puck but everything else was a backcheck or a forecheck or faceoffs. There’s no wasted time when you’re out there and that’s good because it keeps you on your toes and it keeps your mind in every single practice, that’s what we need. We can’t have any guys sleeping at any point in time. 

PARTING SHOTS....

Jones' comments on Eakins being a doer, and not just a talker spoke volumes. I think we'd all agree that for the past few seasons we've heard a lot of talk, but we never saw the action match the words.

Eakins has shown he isn't afraid to make changes. Will changing the paint and decor of a room make the Oilers play better on the ice, unlikely, but it illustrates that Eakins won't be sticking with the status quo. Yesterday's practice was uptempo the entire time, and it will be interesting to watch how they practice throughout the year.

I've written on many occasions the past few years how different the Oilers practices were compared to other teams. Chicago and Detroit had quicker paced practices, especially their puck drills.

He wants to change the culture in his dressing room, and he will make his players more accountable on the ice. He's outlined a new workout routine that he expects the players to follow. He's given them an outline for what he expects on practice days, as well as game days.

Some players won't be impacted by the changes, because many of them had pre-skate work out routines as well as post-game routines, but it will be different for some. It is no longer optional.

  • ESPN ranked the top-50 D-men in the NHL and J.Schultz was the only Oiler to crack the list at #40. I was surprised to see Ekman-Larsson and McDonagh ahead of Pietrangelo, albeit only a few spots, but overall I'd agree with most of the rankings. Your thoughts? Schultz is ranked a bit high, if you go off last seasons numbers, but I suspect they added his potential when ranking him. His overall game will be much better this year compared to last season.

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#101 oilerjed
September 17 2013, 10:26AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

I'm sure they think they have a good reason(s), but I can't think what it would be.

This just works to drive fans away, frustrate their experience, stifle their enthusiasm... and it is just plain "old media" thinking. It's like we are being transported back to the days of suing Napster.

Oh and... all this does is shave advertising potential away from the NHL and drive up the market for piracy.

Does anyone know if the games are available on nhl gamecenter? Turns out I forgot to unsubscribe again and am locked in for the year. Might as well use it. The Calgary games were listed but didnt work.

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#102 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
September 17 2013, 10:35AM
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I can't stand the regional blackout rules. I cancelled my cable back in 2011 when they implemented them because hockey was the only reason why I had it in the first place. Now I can (legally) only watch about 1/4 - 1/3 of the Oilers games without paying through the nose for CentreIce, which requires me to pay for basic cable.

I'm more than content to stream from illegal sources.

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#103 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
September 17 2013, 10:37AM
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Terranq wrote:

Use adfreetime. Same service as unblock-us, only $1.99/mth

The Firefox plugin 'MediaHint' does the same thing for free.

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#104 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
September 17 2013, 10:41AM
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Reg Dunlop wrote:

Am I reading this right? Did Jones just stick the knife in Krueger's back and twist?

It is time for an Oiler/AHL roster to upset a mostly NHL squad. Like always, we prevail in Winnipeg 3-2. Anyone know what happened to that giant picture of the Queen in the old arena?

It was auctioned off and is now owned by an individual:

http://illegalcurve.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Queen.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/NhN0T1s_6M.gCJae.PE6MQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnhlexperts/300_Giant_Queen.jpg

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#105 Romulus' Apotheosis
September 17 2013, 10:47AM
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Tikkanese wrote:

If it fixes the feed problems(no sound, buffering, not even loading period for some people, etc) then I'm ok with that. But if it is Rob Kerr doing the play by play, I'm more than fine with no sound!

Those were unrelated problems.

It seems it was NHL wide as a lot of teams were having trouble with the video streams. Should be fixed for tonight. The Oilers have a test site you can use to see if it is working for you (it will also verify if you are in the region):

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=92161

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#106 braidonh
September 17 2013, 11:15AM
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Also if you just use hidemya$$.com (obviously use correct spelling) and choose a proxy located in the states, hulu plus and american netflix work for you. 100% free. you just need understanding of how to copy and paste IP addresses, DNS host addresses ect.

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#107 Where's Your Towel
September 17 2013, 11:16AM
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I know all about VPN services, and I do appreciate the recommendations of good providers. I think what irks me the most is the idea that they do not allow me to just pay directly for what I want.

If I want to pay the NHL to watch my favourite team's games on the internet, it seems like bad business for them to say no.

Ideally, I should be able to purchase a bulk of game tokens which I expend to watch the games I want regardless of region.

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#108 Simpsonite
September 17 2013, 11:19AM
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So wait. Let me get this straight. I just had to move to Calgary...well cochrane...need to get my Oiler games this year. If I'm hearing you all correctly if I get NHL Centre Ice or whatever through Shaw and the Oiler game is being shown on SNW I can't watch it on Centre Ice? Especially if it is not shown on the feed in Calgary?

I swear I will go bonkers if I'm subjected to only Flames games. I. Will. Go. Loco.

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#110 David S
September 17 2013, 11:33AM
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I just go over to Lowetide's site. Guaranteed someone in the comments section ALWAYS posts the streaming feeds in the game day thread. ATDHE (you have to Google it) is the local favorite, but there's others too.

What's really bugging me is I'm seeing out-of-market games on glorious HD while we have to ghetto Oilers pre-season broadcats? What's up with that?

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#111 Maverick007
September 17 2013, 11:40AM
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Any hockey game, any sporting event, you can watch for free here. http://www.stopstream.tv/

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#112 Lloyd B.
September 17 2013, 11:51AM
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Here's a good one. I live in the Edmonton area but work across the country. So when I'm in Manitoba and an Oilers game is on I can't access it because of the blackout. Drives me crazy.

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#113 OilClog
September 17 2013, 11:52AM
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Wonger wrote:

Of course he didn't drop the gloves MORON!!! McGrattan was in their line-up and he would have been Joensuu's next fight! Watch the Calgary-Ottawa highlights. Jones runs around so SDAO (Ottawa) nails him. Stajan jumps Sdao. Sdao kicks the s%^t out of Stajan. Next time Sdao is on the ice, Hartley sends McGrattan after him. Sdao gets cut and dropped. Thats why nobody screws around with the Flames! Oilers don't have that luxury. We don't believe in enforcers like most of the other teams in the NHL do. Could you have imagined what McGrattan would have done to Sarich if he were an Oiler, and the coach let him do his job after Sarich steamrolled Hall two years ago! By the way, Matt Kassian was not in the Ottawa line-up last night, but he will be when these two teams meet again, and he will line up with McGrattan, and you can guess the rest! THE LEAGUE KNOWS NOT TO SCREW AROND WITH THE FLAMES EVEN IF THY START TROUBLE!!!!!

Whoa dude

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#114 terranq
September 17 2013, 12:06PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

The Firefox plugin 'MediaHint' does the same thing for free.

Yeah, but adtimefree and unblock-us can be set at the router level, so any devices connected to the internet are covered. For example, I have a roku box which I use for netflix. mediahint wouldn't work for this, but adfreetime does

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#115 K_Mart
September 17 2013, 12:18PM
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It seems pretty obvious to me that Belov was a superior defenseman to Grebeshkov in the past KHL season that saw a number of NHL players join the league.

Why do I keep hearing that Grebeshkov is more likely for nhl employment?

Is it simply because he came on a 1-way and Belov came on a 2-way?

Nonsense.

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#116 CaptainLander
September 17 2013, 12:33PM
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Wonger wrote:

NOT QUITE GENIOUS.....Calgary beats Edmonton in the standings and none of their stars get injured every year!!!!!!!

They have stars?

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#117 striatic
September 17 2013, 12:38PM
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i have and pay for nhl game center, in the states.

none of these preseason games have been available over it.

lots of preseason games on firstrow though. the edmonton game will likely be streamed from there, although no guarantees.

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#118 pkam
September 17 2013, 12:43PM
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Wonger wrote:

NOT QUITE GENIOUS.....Calgary beats Edmonton in the standings and none of their stars get injured every year!!!!!!!

Last season we finished 24th, did Calgary finish higher? Or are you talking CFL?

We had Steve McIntyre for 3 years and how many fights did he have? And we must be injury free in those years, right?

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#119 pkam
September 17 2013, 12:50PM
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CaptainLander wrote:

They have stars?

They had, but no longer anymore.

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Wonger wrote:

NOT QUITE GENIOUS.....Calgary beats Edmonton in the standings and none of their stars get injured every year!!!!!!!

Calgary beating Edm in the standings had nothing to do with their goalie, right? So can you explain to me why, even in all those games with Smacintyre, Hemsky was still getting run by every goon in the league, AND we still finished at the bottom?

Besides, if Joensu fights Wideman, who says he has to fight McGratten? He can skate away like the entire league did when Macintyre went looking for a fight after the fact.

As for the whole online video streaming: garbage. It didn't work for me out in Saskatoon. The whole system seems to be set up to make it difficult/expensive to get what you want legally (Game of Thrones style). If gigantic media corporations are gonna give me the runaround, and try to make obscene profits by screwing me, then I'm not going to play their games, especially when other options exist. I'll happily pay a reasonable amount for what I will actually use, but I'm not into paying way more money for crap I neither want nor will use.

Btw, I've purchased both seasons of G of T once available. And spent hundreds (probably thousands) on Oilers jerseys/tickets over the last 20 years. If anyone thinks I'm 'stealing' from the NhL, the Oilers or HBO, they have a very narrow vision of reality that I can't respect.

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#121 terranq
September 17 2013, 01:00PM
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@The 90's were worse (Formerly Oilers need Ogie Oglethorpe)

I'm in Saskatoon as well. I had no issues watching the game from the Oilers website

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#122 datFOZ
September 17 2013, 01:28PM
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@pkam

Subban had top-flight possession numbers without Markov the full season before.

http://www.coppernblue.com/2012/7/29/3196635/pk-subban-is-a-bad-person-and-oel-is-a-wimp

http://www.coppernblue.com/2012/4/12/2943259/young-defenseman-comparisons-nhl

Read the second one especially.

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#123 RexLibris
September 17 2013, 01:32PM
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CaptainLander wrote:

They have stars?

Its a relative term.

But they do expect to be seeing stars many nights this season.

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#125 pkam
September 17 2013, 02:26PM
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"For many of the veterans it is another opportunity to sharpen their skills, while those on the bubble hope to impress Dallas Eakins, and for some it is likely their final preseason game. "

My question is which category does Abney fall into? He has played 2 pro seasons and barely made it to the ECHL and a constant scratch. What does the management want to see that they haven't in the last 2 years? It'll be a miracle if he can even make it to the AHL. Should've been cut with the 1st group imo. The Oilers should've release him and save his roster spot to keep the right of Rajala.

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#126 datFOZ
September 17 2013, 02:31PM
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@pkam

Just guessing here, but I recall Eakins saying that he wanted everybody in camp to see at least one EXI game if possible before getting sent. It's all about that experience, that taste, that glimpse as to what they are working towards.

I don't think Abney got into either Calgary game, so after he gets work either tonight or tomorrow he'll likely be on the first bus back to wherever they want to hide him.

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#128 pkam
September 17 2013, 03:00PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

He will be going down soon...He gets one preseason game like most guys destined for the minors.

As for Rajala, he wanted out of his contract so he could make more money in Europe. Abney had zero impact on Rajala's situation. Rajala is a free agent now, but he wasn't close to being an NHL player.

Oilers keep the right of Omark when he played in Switzerland, right? So we should be able to let Rajala play in Europe and keep his right, unless Rajala has decided he will not return to NHL.

What I heard is that Oilers is running close to the 50 roster spot so they choose to release Rajala. I don't know how much truth in that rumor. But if it is true, I would rather they release Abney and keep Rajala, even he chooses to play in Europe for a year or 2.

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#129 Will
September 17 2013, 03:03PM
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Since I'm either watching a game with friends at their house or a bar, for times I have it on at my house by my self, I just find a stream online, then sink it up with the Oilers radio network.

It reminds me of the days you'd turn the volume on the tv off, then turn Phillips on the radio up.

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#131 pkam
September 17 2013, 03:04PM
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datFOZ wrote:

That KO was game one. The same night Eberle scored his wondergoal. Evidently, the league didn't get the memo.

If you want to send a message, wouldn't you think game 1 is the best timing?

If KO is not effective enough and missed by the whole league, what else can be more effective?

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#132 MessyEH!
September 17 2013, 03:13PM
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ColourMeImpressed wrote:

Subban is like a young Phaneuf. Lots of flash, lots of bad positioning.

I waz on aware that Dion Phaneuf ever won a Norris.

Look at the Norris trophy winners of the past and show me one "flash in the pan in the last 40 years. This isn't the Vezina. Or Rocket Richard. The Norris is BONAFIDE.

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#133 pkam
September 17 2013, 03:19PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

@PKAM

The Oilers do NOT own Rajala's rights...He is a free agent, because they bought him out. It was a mutual agreement. He asked to go to make more money in Europe.

His route is not an incentive for prospects.

Hartikainen and Omark were qualified, but didn't have an actual contract and that is why the Oilers maintained their rights.

That is Romulus' Apotheosis's comment, not mine.

I know the Oilers do not own Rajala's rights anymore when they put him on waiver and bought him out.

I just wonder why they keep Abney but release Rajala. Unless Rajala already decides he is not coming back to NHL, it makes no sense.

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#134 Romulus' Apotheosis
September 17 2013, 03:34PM
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Bruce gets into a bit more of the CBA nuts and bolts of Rajala's situation here:

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/08/23/oilers-release-high-scoring-prospect-7-toni-rajala/

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#136 pkam
September 17 2013, 05:03PM
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Mikey wrote:

Hall was top 10 last year, what about the year before?

Its all in the age and experiance. Letang has been in the league longer.

You're right tho, this will be a very good telling year to see which one is "better"

The reason I didn't put Subban ahead of Letang is because of Markov.

Subban is much bigger this year than the year before. How much is it related to the presence of Markov?

A year ago, nobody would put Subban ahead of Letang. Letang didn't regress. But will Subban without Markov? Only time will tell.

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#137 Fresh Mess
September 17 2013, 05:50PM
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Maverick007 wrote:

What about Gordon, what about Ferrence?

Solid role players on paper. Have no idea if they will work out or not (remember Belanger?) I hope they do. I like the players but horrible overpays by MacTavish.

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#138 BGH
September 17 2013, 06:45PM
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No love for me on oilers website either. Jets however is working......

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#139 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
September 17 2013, 08:21PM
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@oilersOne

You did read the rosters, right? The Oil are essentially icing an AHL team tonight.

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#140 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
September 17 2013, 08:31PM
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@jetsfan

3/10. Your troll-fu needs work, grasshopper. There is a powerful shaman by the name of DSF, he can show you the way.

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#141 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
September 17 2013, 08:51PM
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The oil were very obviously in over their head on this one. A few thoughts:

- Yakupov was the best player on the ice. He played most of the last 3 minutes, and deserved every second.

- I was on the fence on Omark until tonight. Count me firmly among the "he'll never be an NHLer" folks

- Jesse Joensuu had no idea what the hell was going on at the best of times

- I did manage to pick up on Eakins' new defensive system a couple times and it gives me some hope for the season

- Lander caught my eye a few times, and I was quite impressed with his strong work along the boards

- For those of you who are reading the comments without having watched the game, don't let the boxscore fool you. The oilers had no business being within 2 goals of the Jets on this one.

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#142 Ivan Drago
September 17 2013, 09:31PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

Lmao what does that even mean?

And for the record, I stopped paying attention to you long ago.

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#143 REALLY!!!
September 17 2013, 09:31PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Brown challenged Jackman early in the second period and he declined, besides Widemans hit and Halls hit on McGratton it wasn't a very physical game.

SERIOUSLY!!!

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#144 DigDeepNBleedBlue
September 17 2013, 09:32PM
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K, I tried this twice and failed. (explicit)

Anyhoo...

RANT:

Peg's feed was way better. Less chop, plus they had the score, time and SOG. Someone should feel shame.

All those hating on Pitlick should eat a big bag of (explicit). Kid's got game. At par or better than R. Hamilton.

Larson is growing on me. At this point he looks better than Greb.

YAK-U-POV! Skillz, baby.

...and sh*t I can't remem what else I was going to say. Damn you alcohol!!!

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#145 Rocket
September 17 2013, 09:43PM
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Seemed like a pretty standard pre-season game: Lots of mistakes, players unsure what to do/where to be, and half-assed play (I'm looking at you Mr. Gagner).

Yak looked good. Omark looked like Omark which is either good or bad depending on your opinion of him.

And what's with the crappy ice? The way the puck was bouncing around I thought I was watching a Playoff game in Boston!

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#146 Rocket
September 17 2013, 10:34PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

yeah I wonder how long we'll start to really see results of Eakins' coaching style (systems,work-out regime, etc.)? And if the team improves, will the primary reason be Eakins or player improvement/maturity?

I like what you said about players buying in and I totally agree. I just hope we don't have to wait until the new year to see actual results.

BTW do you like Hall at centre? I don't but am happy to be proven wrong.

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#147 michael
September 18 2013, 06:05AM
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I'll put the over/under on the amount of fights that the Oilers engage in this year at 15. Its not going be a rock'em sockem kinda year . At all.

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#148 HardBoiledOil
September 18 2013, 07:37AM
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madjam wrote:

Oilers showed better than expected considering our lineup . Veterans showed rust and mistakes . Landers , Grebs and Omark did little to impress making opening roster . Gagner seemed to be slow a foot and not efficient on faceoffs . He is capable of much better . Bachman played well . Most disturbing is another loss , while arch rival Flames rip off back to back wins against the Isles . Eakins has got to be concerned with mounting losses even if it is early . Once again we got pushed around a lot physically . We seem to have nothing physically to hurt other clubs like they can hurt us .

i doubt Eakins is all that concerned about pre season losses so relax. the pre season is after all a time when you have a good look at all you free agents, AHLers and juniors and recent draft picks to evaluate who will be in the starting lineup. the losses will be a tell tale sign of who can bring it and who can't and who isn't ready to bring it yet. if the losses start to pile up during the regular season, then i hope Dallas has been given permission to make any moves that he sees fit to make in order to win.

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#149 Mikey
September 18 2013, 09:11AM
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Spydyr wrote:

What do you base that on? The record of the last three coaches?

Once again for the people that can't comprehend I said "UNLESS". I hope Eakins is the best coach in the history of the game and wins five Cups here. The team's recent record with coaches suggest otherwise. Every team sells hope this time of year.After the last seven years I will hold off on calling Eakins the second coming of Scotty Bowman.Until he does something like say win his first NHL game!

Excatly, I base that on the fact the last two coaches only lasted two and one year.

I understand you said unless, the fact remains you still think there is a posibilty. I would say there is a 0.0% chance Eakins is fired inside of three years.

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#150 Ivan Drago
September 18 2013, 09:26AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Spydyr makes a good point. What if one/some/all of the fab 5 don't buy into Dallas' gameplan, you do have your head in the sand if you don't think it will be Eakins who falls on that sword. Where do all these puckers who don't know this, keep coming from.....darn kids.

One player, no, he will be gone before Eakins. Some already think one of the kids needs to be traded, if one had a bad attitude, sure it would make that decision easier. Again, why do you think Seguin got traded? It sure as hell wasn't because he's a bad hockey player.

More than one or even two, yeah Eakins may then be in trouble, but what evidence is there that all the kids suddenly aren't buying into Eakins. None right now, at all. That's the point here. Quit with the doom and gloom after 2 pre season games for crying out aloud. There have been pre seasons where the oilers almost won them all, then finished dead last in regular season. It means nothing. Guarantee Eakins is here for at least 3 seasons, worst case scenario.

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