Chicago extends Crawford - what does it mean for Dubnyk?

Jonathan Willis
September 02 2013 09:11AM

The Chicago Blackhawks extended goaltender Corey Crawford on Saturday, inking the starter from last season's Stanley Cup-winning team to a six-year, $6.0 million per season contract. 

That's a lot of money

There's no question about it - the Blackhawks paid full price for Crawford, a player who generally isn't seen as a top-tier NHL starter. In 2011-12, the duo of Crawford and Ray Emery struggled mightily in the Chicago net, and were seen as a critical weakness in an otherwise excellent team. Last year, Crawford turned that around and delivered strong results over a lockout-shortened season and then en route to a Stanley Cup win.

Could this decision have anything to do with the Blackhawks choice to let Antti Niemi walk away after the team won the Stanley Cup in 2010? At the time, the consensus seemed to be that Niemi had put in an averagish season and won the Cup behind a powerhouse, but since then Niemi has evolved into an exceptional goalie. 

Even so, it's hard not to be a little staggered by the dollars and term here. Crawford has a career 0.913 save percentage, with the vast majority of those games coming in the last three seasons, and that total ranks 28th of the 54 active goalies to record at least 1,000 saves over that span. Even eliminating the backups ahead of him (players like Jhonas Enroth and Jason LaBarbera), Crawford's save percentage puts him in the bottom-third of NHL starters.

What About Devan?

It's a deal that must have pending unrestricted free agent Devan Dubnyk smiling, because there are definite similarities between Dubnyk and Crawford.

Both are on roughly the same career track. Dubnyk was selected in the first round of the 2004 Draft and Crawford went in the second round in 2003. After minor-league apprenticeships that included a smattering of NHL games (19 for Dubnyk in 2009-10, eight for Crawford over three seasons) both surpassed veteran incumbents to take the starting job in 2010-11. Both now find themselves hovering around the 150-game mark on their careers after three seasons with some ups and downs.

What about the performance gap? Both are career 0.913 save percentage goalies, and over the last three seasons (when both have been starters) there isn't that much space between them. Dubnyk has a 0.917 save percentage over that span to Crawford's 0.913, and at even-strength Dubnyk has a 0.923 save percentage to Crawford's 0.922. The four point even-strength save percentage gap over that span is the difference between a middle-third and bottom-third starter, but given that we're talking about four goals over 1,000 shots its only fair to recognize that the gap isn't all that large.

But then, Crawford isn't being paid like a guy who has been a bottom-third NHL starter over the last three seasons. He now ranks seventh among goalies in cap hit - he's being paid because he's a Stanley Cup-winning goalie. Maybe that's a bad way to decide to pay goalies (I think it is) but it is what is happening and it isn't something that Dubnyk can claim.

Even so, it does seem clear that the brief era of goalies being seen as a place to save money against the cap is now over, and that's unfortunate for the Oilers given their need to sign either Dubnyk or a new starter next summer.

Nuts!

Completely off-topic is this message from the Canadian Cancer Society. This September, they're spreading awareness of testicular cancer through "Nutiquette" and naturally we thought we'd help them with that. Watch the movie, it's funny.

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#51 Freewheeling Freddie
September 02 2013, 01:29PM
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If Lowe has his way he will sign Doobie to a seven year 49 million dollar contract. Be afraid very afraid.

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#52 pkam
September 02 2013, 01:36PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Mac-T has gone after just about every goalie available this summer. Those actions suggest he does not see Dubnyk as a championship caliber goalie. Neither do I.

No one is saying Dubnyk has to single handily get the team into the playoffs .

What some of us want is a goalie to win the Cup.

So which goalie in the league right now do you think can win the Cup with the roster we have last year, or even the roster this year?

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#53 Spydyr
September 02 2013, 01:44PM
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pkam wrote:

So which goalie in the league right now do you think can win the Cup with the roster we have last year, or even the roster this year?

No goalie is going to win the Cup with the Oilers current roster. Not sure that even has to be stated, but you asked.

Now if and when the time does come to compete for the Cup here is a list of goalies I would prefer over Dubnyk:

Jonathan Quick, Pekka Rinne , Tuukka Rask , Craig Anderson , Antti Niemi.

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#54 Wäx Män Riley
September 02 2013, 01:57PM
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Spydyr wrote:

No goalie is going to win the Cup with the Oilers current roster. Not sure that even has to be stated, but you asked.

Now if and when the time does come to compete for the Cup here is a list of goalies I would prefer over Dubnyk:

Jonathan Quick, Pekka Rinne , Tuukka Rask , Craig Anderson , Antti Niemi.

You and 25 other teams

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#55 Jay
September 02 2013, 02:06PM
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I'll cut off my left nut with a rusty knife if dubnyk gets close to 6 mill a year

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#56 madjam
September 02 2013, 02:08PM
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Lets be serious here . Would any club beyond the Oilers pay as much as we are paying for Dubbie now -I doubt it .

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#57 WhattaMike
September 02 2013, 02:39PM
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Dubnyk is up for a contract next yr no matter what happens with the Oilers this year. My preference is that he improves more so and significantly than the past season. I like this young man and goalie....but he is not/nor will not command anythingover $4.5 mil per yr max in the next contract...with the Oil or any other team.

Crawford got absolutely very lucky to get a six yr $6 mil per yr contract...and he did not deserve this cause he is not elite. He won games and the Cup because of his team primarily and mainly...not from of himself.

IMO, Dubnyk has to win quite a bit more reg season games and get into the playoffs and... win in the playoffs as well...albeit as the top player on the team over-all...so as just to get a very good contract starting next yr....(and surely at no more than $4.5 mil per yr still).

IMO, If he ever realisticaly expects more than this per yr (such as Crawford) then he better win the Vezina, the Cup and Conn Smythe too.

If not realistic for himself or the Oilers...then trade him I say.

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#58 Ca$h-Money!
September 02 2013, 03:00PM
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The thing I don't understand is, how was Crawford any better than Emery this year? What more could Emery have done to earn the starting spot?

Emery went 17 - 1 with a sub 2 GAA and .922 save percentage... and he's still not considered a sure thing starter, but the other guy is worth locking up at 6 million per year for 6 years....

I just don't understand how the hockey braintrust makes decisions sometimes. Either both goalies are elite, or both goalies are OK but played for a great team...

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#59 Jack
September 02 2013, 03:00PM
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Happy Labor Day, Barack Obama

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#60 The Soup Fascist
September 02 2013, 03:07PM
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madjam wrote:

Lets be serious here . Would any club beyond the Oilers pay as much as we are paying for Dubbie now -I doubt it .

Yes. Plenty.

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#61 pkam
September 02 2013, 03:26PM
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madjam wrote:

Lets be serious here . Would any club beyond the Oilers pay as much as we are paying for Dubbie now -I doubt it .

Winnipeg Jets singed Ondrej Pavelec to 4 years at 3.9M per last off season, if you know who Ondrej Pavelec is.

And Colorado trade their 1st round pick to Washington for Semyon Varlamov 2 years ago and then signed him to 3 years at 2.833M per when Varlamov was only 23 years old. His contract is up by the end of the upcoming season and you will see how much he will get. I believe will be at least 4M.

And Dubnyk's number is better than both of them.

And FYI, when Dubnyk signed his previous contract when he was 23, he only got paid 800K. This 3.5M is his last RFA contract, like Ondrej Pavelec.

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#62 Smokey
September 02 2013, 03:30PM
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Ugly contract. I generally don' generallyt slag Chicago because they win. However Corey Crawford is a product of a sound team. They won with Neimi and he walked and then won with Crawford. KH even almost made the finals. And Emery was solid too. Why pay 6 million bucks?

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#63 oilbaron
September 02 2013, 03:43PM
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I believe you stated the most obvious thing, he's a Stanley cup winning goalie and dubey isn't. Period, end of story. now bring on the start of training camp so I don't have to read these asinine articles anymore.

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#64 pkam
September 02 2013, 03:53PM
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WhattaMike wrote:

Dubnyk is up for a contract next yr no matter what happens with the Oilers this year. My preference is that he improves more so and significantly than the past season. I like this young man and goalie....but he is not/nor will not command anythingover $4.5 mil per yr max in the next contract...with the Oil or any other team.

Crawford got absolutely very lucky to get a six yr $6 mil per yr contract...and he did not deserve this cause he is not elite. He won games and the Cup because of his team primarily and mainly...not from of himself.

IMO, Dubnyk has to win quite a bit more reg season games and get into the playoffs and... win in the playoffs as well...albeit as the top player on the team over-all...so as just to get a very good contract starting next yr....(and surely at no more than $4.5 mil per yr still).

IMO, If he ever realisticaly expects more than this per yr (such as Crawford) then he better win the Vezina, the Cup and Conn Smythe too.

If not realistic for himself or the Oilers...then trade him I say.

He is a UFA at the end of the season. If you think an UFA goalie with his number won't get more than 4.5M, you better trade him at trade deadline.

If Dubnyk can keep playing like last year, he will easily get 4.5M with many team. If he plays better, his agent will ask for north of 5M.

For your information, Jimmy Howard just signed for 6 years at 5.3M. Is he an elite goalie?

How about Kari Lehtonen? The Stars just signed him to 5 years at 5.9M per.

And the Coyotes just signed Mike Smyth to 6 year at 5.7M per.

Is any of this 3 you think are elite goalie?

NYI just signed 38 years old Nabakov to one year at 3.25M. You don't think they will be interested in a UFA goalie with Dubnyk's number at 4.5M?

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#65 J-Dogg
September 02 2013, 03:58PM
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Spydyr wrote:

No goalie is going to win the Cup with the Oilers current roster. Not sure that even has to be stated, but you asked.

Now if and when the time does come to compete for the Cup here is a list of goalies I would prefer over Dubnyk:

Jonathan Quick, Pekka Rinne , Tuukka Rask , Craig Anderson , Antti Niemi.

The fact that your list of preferences is comprised of 5 elite caliber goalies underscores what most people here seem to be saying, which is that Dubnyk is far from our biggest weakness and by the time our forwards have matured a bit and our defense is in a state to allow us to "compete for the cup" on an annual basis, Dubnyk will be a perfectly adequate goalie.

That said, I don't think he's worth 6 million per year.

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#66 Fresh Mess
September 02 2013, 04:20PM
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Dubynk will be one of the prized UFa's next summer and will likely bail on the Oilers unless they overpay him to extend before July.

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#67 Jeffff
September 02 2013, 04:25PM
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Jack wrote:

Happy Labor Day, Barack Obama

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#68 Old School G
September 02 2013, 04:29PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

I think Osgood's work compared to his backups' work says volumes about his actual level of ability.

I was checking in to this JW, it lead me to come across Ty Conklin as Osgood's tandem starting net partner for the 2008-2009 season.

Ty Conklin posted a 25-11-2 2.51 GAA season. Detroit went with Osgood in the playoffs and he took them all the way to Game 7 of the Cup Finals. Osgood won when it counted, he is the man.

Ty Conklin always intrigued me, this particular season was a real good one for him it's too bad he could never put it all together, he played in fewer games but posted even better numbers for the Blues in 2009-2010 and then completely fell apart, I always thought he was a pretty good goalie.

Tandem goaltending works out incredibly well for teams. If your starter can put up a quality 50ish games for your team, with your backup holding his own for the 30ish games that he's called upon, all a team has to do is time it right and your starter, Dubnyk, is full steam ready to win some games for the boys in the playoffs. Jason Labarbera has put up solid numbers starting anywhere from 15-45 games. I really like how this season is going to shape up for us in net.

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#69 FastOil
September 02 2013, 04:47PM
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Dubnyk is worth under 4-4.5M for 3-4 years which I think is fair both ways.

If he's looking for a bigger or longer payday it must be decided if a mid level goalie with stable numbers is worth much more. Risk grows greatly overpaying 95% of goalies.

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#70 Spydyr
September 02 2013, 05:02PM
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J-Dogg wrote:

The fact that your list of preferences is comprised of 5 elite caliber goalies underscores what most people here seem to be saying, which is that Dubnyk is far from our biggest weakness and by the time our forwards have matured a bit and our defense is in a state to allow us to "compete for the cup" on an annual basis, Dubnyk will be a perfectly adequate goalie.

That said, I don't think he's worth 6 million per year.

I agree if all you want to do is "compete for the cup" Dubnyk will be a perfectly adequate goalie.

Some of us here want to win the Cup.Not just compete for it.

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#71 J-Dogg
September 02 2013, 05:13PM
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Spydyr wrote:

I agree if all you want to do is "compete for the cup" Dubnyk will be a perfectly adequate goalie.

Some of us here want to win the Cup.Not just compete for it.

The point was I (among others) think he's good enough to win a cup if he doesn't have a defensive corps playing in front of him that kitchen sieves envy and immature forwards in need of defensive seasoning.

If you're talking about spending 6 mill/year on a goalie regardless, then yes, maybe find a better one.

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#72 Spydyr
September 02 2013, 05:19PM
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Wäx Män Riley wrote:

You and 25 other teams

Yes many teams would because that is what it takes to win the Cup most years.Hence the name Championship calibre goaltending.

Not middle third calibre goaltending.

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#73 Spydyr
September 02 2013, 05:21PM
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J-Dogg wrote:

The point was I (among others) think he's good enough to win a cup if he doesn't have a defensive corps playing in front of him that kitchen sieves envy and immature forwards in need of defensive seasoning.

If you're talking about spending 6 mill/year on a goalie regardless, then yes, maybe find a better one.

I'm up for finding a better goalie then Dubnyk .It appears the GM also is .

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#74 boxman
September 02 2013, 06:10PM
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@The Soup Fascist

Damn, Damn, that's fine.

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September 02 2013, 06:26PM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Dubynk will be one of the prized UFa's next summer and will likely bail on the Oilers unless they overpay him to extend before July.

No he won't.

Teams don't overpay for below average goaltenders.

Which teams will be looking for goaltenders next offseason?

The list isn't very long.

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#76 Henry
September 02 2013, 06:57PM
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madjam wrote:

Lets be serious here . Would any club beyond the Oilers pay as much as we are paying for Dubbie now -I doubt it .

Philly, if they had any cap space. Winnipeg, honestly several others too. The problem with devan's contract is that he got a nice pay that takes him straight to ufa. Dubnyk gave nothing up on his options.

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#77 Katzhater
September 02 2013, 07:04PM
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Grant fuhr is a perfect example of a goaltender with a superior team in front of him. Clearly a passenger. Jim matheson could have played in net for the oilers and they still would have won.

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#78 uks ya
September 02 2013, 07:39PM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Dubynk will be one of the prized UFa's next summer and will likely bail on the Oilers unless they overpay him to extend before July.

then let him bail!!!

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#79 Time Travelling Sean
September 02 2013, 09:21PM
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DSF wrote:

No he won't.

Teams don't overpay for below average goaltenders.

Which teams will be looking for goaltenders next offseason?

The list isn't very long.

All his stats suggest he's above average, and why did Chicago just massively overpay for their average to below-average goalie?

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#80 Wäx Män Riley
September 02 2013, 09:27PM
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DSF wrote:

No he won't.

Teams don't overpay for below average goaltenders.

Which teams will be looking for goaltenders next offseason?

The list isn't very long.

I thought all of his numbers show an above average goalie. Especially considering the defence in front of him.

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#81 Wäx Män Riley
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Spydyr wrote:

Yes many teams would because that is what it takes to win the Cup most years.Hence the name Championship calibre goaltending.

Not middle third calibre goaltending.

So then Crawford is below middle third goaltending? But he is good because his team won a cup? Does Emery get a ring?

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#82 Lew
September 02 2013, 09:59PM
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Jack wrote:

Happy Labor Day, Barack Obama

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#83 Mj
September 02 2013, 10:25PM
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Just cuz we haven't made the playoffs doesn't mean we have to overlook our own players a abilities. Dubnyks numbers speak for themselves and he did that with the second most shots faced by all goalies last year. I have watched probably every single oilers game since I don't know when and I have seen dubnyk literally crawl his way up the ladder to when he was battling jdd for the net. Even then u could see his size and calmness were good attributes. Yes I have seen him let in his share of soft goals but I have also seen him stop 40 out of 42 and we lose in overtime or some player mistake. The point is he has it in him to be a VERY good goalie almost Peka rinne type he just needs to put it all together. We can't blame a developing goalie for all our losses then toss him aside. We won't be paying dubnyk Crawford money cuz he don't have a cup like Crawford does which was probably a deciding factor in that negotiation. And even if he does win the cup this yr (fingers crossed) gagner showed his commitment to the team by taking less and I bet u dubnyk and even the yakupovs and Shultzs will take hometown deals to keep what looks to be an Allstar cast in Edmonton. Wouldn't you take a pay cut to play with top players around the same age as you and keep winning? Over and over? But the keyword is winning so lets see what happens this year and stop hating on our homegrown talent give the guy a chance

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#84 madjam
September 02 2013, 10:56PM
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Katzhater wrote:

Grant fuhr is a perfect example of a goaltender with a superior team in front of him. Clearly a passenger. Jim matheson could have played in net for the oilers and they still would have won.

Fuhr one of the best reflex goalies of all time . Followed some of his stellar performances from Tier 2 on up . Incredible reflexes , and many incredible games over the course of his Oiler career . He was no passenger , but often the difference maker as our defenceman were adequate at best most of the time .

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#85 Darrell
September 03 2013, 07:07AM
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How can you compare a goalie that has done f-all to a cup winner ? Damn, I can wait for hockey season so relevancy and sanity return .....

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#86 Darrell
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How can you compare a goalie that has done f-all to a cup winner ? Damn, I can wait for hockey season so relevancy and sanity return .....

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#87 madjam
September 03 2013, 07:54AM
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Our own GM says he must get (Dubbie) to another lavel if he is to be our nbr.1 goalie going forward . In a nutshell - he is not their yet .

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#88 dawgtoy
September 03 2013, 08:12AM
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madjam wrote:

Fuhr one of the best reflex goalies of all time . Followed some of his stellar performances from Tier 2 on up . Incredible reflexes , and many incredible games over the course of his Oiler career . He was no passenger , but often the difference maker as our defenceman were adequate at best most of the time .

Well said madjam, Fuhr was no passenger...period!

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#89 oilerman53
September 03 2013, 09:08AM
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Grant Fuhr coined the term "Money Goalie". When the Oilers needed the door slammed shut he slammed it for them. Even he himself stated that his defensemen were always there...... to get the rebounds!

Dubie is an interesting case, his numbers are fairly decent for a guy who basically has had no team in front of him. How many nights can we recall Dubnyk absolutely hung out to dry on a late man shot from the slot? The Oilers are the worst at picking up that late man and Dubnyk god bless his heart tries his best. Only so many times you can shake the bulls tail before he goes into a fit of rage and relocates you fifty feet from where you once stood.

If Dubnyk can find some decent play in front of him his numbers will shine brighter. Always takes these bigger netminders to finf their niche, he does have game stealing potential. But with the stockpile of talent in front of him hopefully he won't see many late man chances.

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#90 Quicksilver ballet
September 03 2013, 09:25AM
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That's the established going rate for a cup winning goaltender nowadays. Win a Stanley Cup Devan, it's the only way to earn that type of future albatross type of contract.

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#91 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
September 03 2013, 09:38AM
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Woodguy wrote:

Here's the EVEN STRENGTH SV% for every goalie in the NHL who has played at least 3000min from 10/11 - 12/13

Even strength SV% has proven to be a superior way to measure goalies than straight SV% as the short handed SV% for most goalies fluctuate wildly from year to year and are not repeatable (subject to a lot of luck)

Here they are:

THOMAS, TIM 93.77

LUNDQVIST, HENRIK 93.21

SCHNEIDER, CORY 93.17

LUONGO, ROBERTO 93.02

NIEMI, ANTTI 93.01

RINNE, PEKKA 93.01

RASK, TUUKKA 92.98

BOBROVSKY, SERGEI 92.9

SMITH, MIKE 92.79

BACKSTROM, NIKLAS 92.73

HOWARD, JIMMY 92.63

LEHTONEN, KARI 92.62

REIMER, JAMES 92.62

VOKOUN, TOMAS 92.6

MILLER, RYAN 92.58

QUICK, JONATHAN 92.51

PRICE, CAREY 92.51

HALAK, JAROSLAV 92.5

WARD, CAM 92.5

HILLER, JONAS 92.44

ANDERSON, CRAIG 92.44

CRAWFORD, COREY 92.37

DUBNYK, DEVAN 92.36

VARLAMOV, SEMYON 92.33

BRYZGALOV, ILYA 92.32

FLEURY, MARC-ANDRE 92.22

THEODORE, JOSE 92.22

PAVELEC, ONDREJ 92.13

KIPRUSOFF, MIIKKA 91.82

GIGUERE, JEAN-SEBASTIEN 91.78

ELLIOTT, BRIAN 91.78

NEUVIRTH, MICHAL 91.74

BUDAJ, PETER 91.7

NABOKOV, EVGENI 91.69

HEDBERG, JOHAN 91.58

CLEMMENSEN, SCOTT 91.39

ROLOSON, DWAYNE 91.33

BRODEUR, MARTIN 91.26

GARON, MATHIEU 91.18

MASON, STEVE 91.17

KHABIBULIN, NIKOLAI 91.12

GUSTAVSSON, JONAS 90.5

Craword is 22nd (DD is 23rd)

Also, no wonder MacT went hard after Schneider, he's up in heady company for sure.

Looks like based on today's cap that CHI overpaid.

Most long term contracts today are betting (correctly imo) on a $90MM cap in 5 years.

Good observation....what's interesting to me is that Quick and Price are not inside the top 15.....

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#92 j
September 03 2013, 09:47AM
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There are a few mediocre teams that can win the cup with a stellar goalie. Carolina in 2006 may be the most recent. All other Stanley winners were great teams. So the point re the quality of the team in front of the goalie becomes somewhat moot. If a goalie backs his team to the Cup, he will gain a certain status that guarantees good contracts for the rest of his career (see Khabibulin for more details). Winning the Cup matters. It just does.

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#93 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
September 03 2013, 09:57AM
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I absolutely love the 'fans' in this town when it comes to goalies. It really shows how clueless most of them are. Just reading the comments in this article alone, it's absolutely astonishing how many people actually and honestly expect Dubnyk to single-handedly take this team to the playoffs.

Defense? What's that? It's not necessary! So what if we had the worst defense corps in the entire league for the past few years, Dubnyk should have just been that much better and stopped all the pucks! Let's just ignore all those prime time scoring chances one after the other because our rookie forwards can't back check to save their lives and our defensemen were AHL caliber.

Offense? What's that? Last year our star filled top 6 forwards had a hell of a time scoring consistently on a nightly basis. Nah, it's Dubnyk's fault for letting in that extra goal or two on all those 3-1 games, and you know, if he had just kept the score to 0, all those games we had last year where we didn't score a single goal, well, maybe we could have won in the shootout, right? Yeah, we'll go with that!

Yeah, I just don't know about that Dubnyk guy man. Letting in soft goals all the time, not giving our forwards enough time to score even one goal in 65 minutes of play so they can score in the shootout. We have it really rough here, let's chase him out of town and sign a goalie who has slightly better numbers on a much better defensive team so we can start this process all over again! Gimme a bro-fist!

BRO FIST! ✊

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#94 Spydyr
September 03 2013, 10:16AM
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Here's the EVEN STRENGTH SV% for every goalie in the NHL who has played at least 3000min from 10/11 - 12/13

Even strength SV% has proven to be a superior way to measure goalies than straight SV% as the short handed SV% for most goalies fluctuate wildly from year to year and are not repeatable (subject to a lot of luck)

Here they are:

THOMAS, TIM 93.77

LUNDQVIST, HENRIK 93.21

SCHNEIDER, CORY 93.17

LUONGO, ROBERTO 93.02

NIEMI, ANTTI 93.01

RINNE, PEKKA 93.01

RASK, TUUKKA 92.98

BOBROVSKY, SERGEI 92.9

SMITH, MIKE 92.79

BACKSTROM, NIKLAS 92.73

HOWARD, JIMMY 92.63

LEHTONEN, KARI 92.62

REIMER, JAMES 92.62

VOKOUN, TOMAS 92.6

MILLER, RYAN 92.58

QUICK, JONATHAN 92.51

PRICE, CAREY 92.51

HALAK, JAROSLAV 92.5

WARD, CAM 92.5

HILLER, JONAS 92.44

ANDERSON, CRAIG 92.44

CRAWFORD, COREY 92.37

DUBNYK, DEVAN 92.36

VARLAMOV, SEMYON 92.33

BRYZGALOV, ILYA 92.32

FLEURY, MARC-ANDRE 92.22

THEODORE, JOSE 92.22

PAVELEC, ONDREJ 92.13

KIPRUSOFF, MIIKKA 91.82

GIGUERE, JEAN-SEBASTIEN 91.78

ELLIOTT, BRIAN 91.78

NEUVIRTH, MICHAL 91.74

BUDAJ, PETER 91.7

NABOKOV, EVGENI 91.69

HEDBERG, JOHAN 91.58

CLEMMENSEN, SCOTT 91.39

ROLOSON, DWAYNE 91.33

BRODEUR, MARTIN 91.26

GARON, MATHIEU 91.18

MASON, STEVE 91.17

KHABIBULIN, NIKOLAI 91.12

GUSTAVSSON, JONAS 90.5

Craword is 22nd (DD is 23rd)

Also, no wonder MacT went hard after Schneider, he's up in heady company for sure.

Looks like based on today's cap that CHI overpaid.

Most long term contracts today are betting (correctly imo) on a $90MM cap in 5 years.

Like all stats Even strength SV% is faulty and does not show the whole picture.

Here is why . When a team faces a hot goalie they tend to not shoot unless it is a very good chance. Cutting down on the shots on goal which lowers the save percentage. Now when a team faces a goalie letting in weak goals every second game (remind of someone) the coach is telling his team to shoot from anywhere. That gives the weaker goalie easier shots to face.

No stat shows the whole picture. This one sure doesn't

The only stat that really matters is wins and losses.

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September 03 2013, 10:18AM
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He will only get 4 plus depending on playoff success. If this team does not make it the Oilers will be looking elsewhere or sign him for similar dollars. There's currently no track record for Dubby to get north of 4 million.

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Smokey wrote:

He will only get 4 plus depending on playoff success. If this team does not make it the Oilers will be looking elsewhere or sign him for similar dollars. There's currently no track record for Dubby to get north of 4 million.

Dubnyk will become a UFA at the end of this upcoming season. If he gets 920 SV or better this year, there will be teams interested to sign him for at least 5M.

Whether the team make the playoff is not solely his responsibility. He can play light out like Sergei Bobrovsky and the team still fails to make the playoff.

By the way, Columbus just signed Bobrovsky to a one year bridge contract at 5.6M despite not making the playoff.

And Coyotes just signed Mike Smith to a 6 year contact at 5.7M despite failing to make the playoff.

There are a few teams out there which will be interested in Dubnyk at 5.0-5.5M if he can keep his number, namely the Islanders, Panthers, Lightnings, probably the Flyers and the Avs as well. Even the Flames may be interested.

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