HEARTBREAKS AND NEW LIFE (GAGNER BROKEN JAW)

Lowetide
September 22 2013 11:03AM

Sam Gagner's broken jaw added to RNH's recovery puts the Oilers in a big hole. How does this week look now? Click through and see.

TRANSACTIONS BEFORE THE GAGNER INJURY

I thought the Oilers might IR Corey Potter, Denis Grebeshkov and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins to start things, and then go into full cut down mode:

  • Return Darnell Nurse and Jujhar Khaira to their junior teams.
  • Demote to OKC G Richard Bachman.
  • Sign G Ty Rimmer and send him to Barons camp.
  • Send down Oscar Klefbom, Martin Marincin, Brad Hunt and Taylor Fedun.
  • Send down Anton Lander, Mark Arcobello, Andrew Miller, Ryan Martindale, Linus Omark, Curtis Hamilton and Tyler Pitlick.

OPENING NIGHT 23 MAN ROSTER AFTER THE GAGNER INJURY

  • Goal (2): Devan Dubnyk and Jason LaBarberta
  • Defense (7): Jeff Petry, Ladislav Smid, Andrew Ference, Justin Schultz, Nick Schultz, Anton Belov, Phil Larsen
  • Center (4): Taylor Hall, Mark Arcobello, Boyd Gordon, Will Acton, Anton Lander
  • Left Wing (5): David Perron, Jesse Joensuu, Ryan Smyth, Ryan Hamilton, Ben Eager
  • Right Wing (5): Jordan Eberle, Ales Hemsky, Nail Yakupov, Ryan Jones, Mike Brown

After the Gagner injury, I think Arcobello and Lander may make the team.There's no Gagner replacement out there and the Oilers top center is also on the shelf. This is a massive item for the Edmonton Oilers season. I would guess this could be bad news for Ben Eager, Ryan Hamilton or Ryan Jones. Ryan Smyth may be asked to play center.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

It's a bitter bitter pill. Wow.

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#51 The Oilers Shot Clock
September 22 2013, 11:35AM
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And not to be negative, but if the Oil can't overcome this then they were never a playoff team anyways. Way better players get hurt all the time. Pittsburgh still makes it in when the best player in the world goes down. If we lose our season over an extended injury to Sam, then well.....

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#52 DSF
September 22 2013, 12:04PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Disagree. I do think the Oilers should have addressed center more this summer, though.

Much longer ago than last summer.

While drafting all those wingers and, then, defensemen, other teams who are following the mantra of building down the middle, have been loading up on centres.

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#53 Yakman
September 22 2013, 11:05AM
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Fists are good. Goals are better.

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#55 Rama Lama
September 22 2013, 11:57AM
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Just how many players do we need to lose from cheap shots and overly aggressive plays before we finally agree that deterrence is required. In fact I would say if we do not get some "real physical deterrence", more of our star players will get hurt.

Imagine the greatest Oilers team during Gretzky's era, not having Semenko, Mclleland, McSorley, Brown, etc. You get the idea Gretzky had a say in the make up of the team, and always respected and promoted what they did. Now we have all these politically correct knuckleheads telling us we do not need toughness......pathetic .

Just because you have a gun and never use it does not mean it's not doing it's job.

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#56 olderthendirt
September 22 2013, 12:51PM
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This should settle who is the best #4 center. a trial by fire. Was it just me or was Yak moving so fast there seemed to be two of him at times. Unlike previous years there was always one or more oilers near the puck. Who needs an enforcer just have Yak hit them with a shot. I might have to change my wind over who is the best #1 pick.

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#57 Spydyr
September 22 2013, 01:02PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

After watching the game I had the following thoughts:

-Belov was a smooth with they puck as Grebs was, but didn't give me a heart attack every time he has it in our zone.

-Hope we sign Rimmer as he would be our best goaltending prospect in the system.

-Wish instead of twirling his stick and looking into the crowd Yak, would of gave some props to Khaira for his pass (I'm not faulting him , but would of been nice)

-hope it is only a hairline fracture and not a total break. With 10 days before the start of the season and Crosby missing only 13 games for a major break, maybe its only single digit games he will miss.

You are right Yak should have acknowledged the sweet pass from Khaira and the hard work in the corner from Hamilton. He looked like a me player.

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#59 Craig1981
September 22 2013, 02:44PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

This is the first real test of our new coach. He sat up high and watched our young stars get butchered......lets see how he reacts......does he pull a Lowetide and keep/add Hamilton on the roster....or does he make some demands on his GM to get muscle added to the lineup?

Ben Eagre is not the answer....Ben Eagre has been seriously concussed and has no desire (and rightfully so) to risk another more serious head injury.

And all you pretty things out there that are counting on the league (Brendan Shanahan) to protect you after the fact are FRANKING CLUELESS....this is a man's game....either you step up or you get stepped on....you fight your own battles...so cut the intellectualizing and the whining that follows..".oh those other teams are so mean"...."oh the refs are so unfair"...."oh the league should do something".....CLUELESS FRANKING PANSIES!

Wow, you got a lot of internal rage there......you might want to see someone about that.

The game I saw Edmonton clearly out played Vancouver and I didn't see out team getting "butchered".

Ben Eager fought just as much as he typically does and I have ZERO idea where that comment came from.

Who exactly do you think would need to be in the lineup to have teams be too scared to hit our players?? lol

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#60 quintana
September 22 2013, 03:01PM
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bob mackenzie@.NHL reviewing VAN Dale Weise's hit on EDM Taylor Hall/VAN Zack Kassian high stick on EDM Sam Gagner. No word yet on if hearings will follow.

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#61 marty62
September 22 2013, 03:36PM
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wanted to comment on a couple things. I am as angry as the next fan on what happened with Gagner, and picking up a McIntyre or some other nuclear deterrent is a feel good reaction, but it wont work. If having a goon worked in todays NHL then we wouldnt be constantly on these blogs bitching about the Torres, Tootoo and other morons in the league because the goon deterrent would, if it worked, neutralize them. But it doesnt. THese guys wont engage with fighters or dont have to because its at a time in the game when you dont want to take an instigator penalty. these guys will continue to do what they do until they take away the instigator and then ANYONE on the ice can kick their ass after they do something stupid. i see people are still yammering about Yak and his celebrations. Whats the big deal? lots of players are like that. You have to remember, hes a kid! he is living his dream! I admire how much passion for the game he has and I hope he never stops. Its players like him that make us want to watch. give me more players like him instead of guys that go through the motions and never show anything, and yes Im looking at you Horcoff.....

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#62 Peter
September 22 2013, 12:56PM
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Dregor just tweeted that Sam will probably have surgery as early as tomorrow to fix his jaw. Man I hope he doesn't miss too many games, we're screwed at center.

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#63 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
September 22 2013, 01:40PM
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This is the first real test of our new coach. He sat up high and watched our young stars get butchered......lets see how he reacts......does he pull a Lowetide and keep/add Hamilton on the roster....or does he make some demands on his GM to get muscle added to the lineup?

Ben Eagre is not the answer....Ben Eagre has been seriously concussed and has no desire (and rightfully so) to risk another more serious head injury.

And all you pretty things out there that are counting on the league (Brendan Shanahan) to protect you after the fact are FRANKING CLUELESS....this is a man's game....either you step up or you get stepped on....you fight your own battles...so cut the intellectualizing and the whining that follows..".oh those other teams are so mean"...."oh the refs are so unfair"...."oh the league should do something".....CLUELESS FRANKING PANSIES!

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#64 Craig1981
September 22 2013, 02:53PM
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Spydyr wrote:

You are right Yak should have acknowledged the sweet pass from Khaira and the hard work in the corner from Hamilton. He looked like a me player.

I don't know what people trashed you on this. Its common in all levels of hockey, for the goal-scorer to acknowledge a great assist, with a point, skating over to them, hug, etc. Even more so since it was Khaira's first point in the league (I think). I am not calling for Yaks head, just that he really should of done it.

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#65 Wax Man Riley
September 22 2013, 03:16PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Four things...

One, maybe you're right, maybe McIntyre wasn't the right guy

Two, its not a zero sum game.....it may well have deterred them......perhaps it would have been worse had he not been there..

Three, you'd rather be the guy/team getting run over as opposed to the guy/team doing the running over?

And Four, and I've said it before, you can't statistic your way to a Stanley Cup....it's a game of emotion...fear, courage, elation, rage, etc....and when some Canuck like Kassian takes Gagner out of the lineup for two months, or elbows Hall in the head and concusses him, or knees RNH and blows his knee out, I don't care what the league does....I want to smash his face in or see one of my teammates smash his face in.....It makes me feel better....so sue me.

I think the biggest part of the debate is that having a huge heavyweight face puncher doesn't stop Nuge's knee being blown out, Hall being concussed, or Gagner being hi-sticked.

That still happens no matter how many SMacs, McGrattans, or Lucic's you have in the lineup.

As you said:

it's a game of emotion...fear, courage, elation, rage, etc....and when some Canuck like Kassian takes Gagner out of the lineup for two months, or elbows Hall in the head and concusses him, or knees RNH and blows his knee out, I don't care what the league does....I want to smash his face in or see one of my teammates smash his face in.....It makes me feel better....so sue me.

The injuries still happen.

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#66 Spydyr
September 22 2013, 11:22AM
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Lowetide wrote:

Gagner broken jaw. Will update

Bad news. They really need to pick up a center or two now.

Looks like your final roster is bang on IMO even though I really liked Hunt and Fedun this camp.

Maybe it is Sunday morning but I can't see Grebeshkov any where. Is he out getting fitted for a tin foil hat?

Edit found Grebeshkov on the IR.

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#67 Crackenbury
September 22 2013, 11:30AM
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It's nice to actually have legitimate discussion about who the Oilers should keep and who they should demote.

We haven't seen enough competition against actual NHL players to get a good feel for where some of the players belong, but based on actual play to date Fedun and even Hunt outplay Larsen all day long for the final D spot. Grebeshkov wasn't as bad as I thought he would be last night. The guy can definitely make a pass. Please send down Nurse, I don't care how good he looks. Give it at least a year and then have another look at him and Khaira. Man that lineup is going to be huge in a year or two!

Mike Brown has outplayed Jones by a wide margin based on the role he needs to play. There is no point in keeping Jones on the roster for a fourth line role. He doesn't fit the position as defined by his coach. Opposition players certainly have no fear of Jones when he jumps over the boards. Brown, Eager and Acton could be hell on skates and exactly what Eakins is looking for.

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#68 Ivan Drago
September 22 2013, 11:42AM
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Congrats you have just won the award for dumbest and most irrelevant comment of the month. Good job.

We all knew C depth was gonna be a problem, thought we'd at least make it to the regular season though.

MacT, over to you, I have faith.

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#69 DSF
September 22 2013, 11:48AM
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Lowetide wrote:

Still out there I think. And a pretty damn good option.

He just signed a short term deal with a Swiss team.

The contract, weirdly, is only until October 13th and likely has an out clause.

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#70 Oilergasm
September 22 2013, 12:34PM
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I just Googled "Gaping Holes" I found this article and some things that even with Viagra will leave me limp for months.

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#71 Peter
September 22 2013, 01:07PM
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Oilers blog stated that Gagner would be out for the first month of the season. Good grief, I hope not. Perhaps they're just overestimating.

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#72 DSF
September 22 2013, 01:07PM
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steelymac wrote:

OilFans we will get through this.DSF I couldn't be happier that MacT taking Nurse in the top ten and after watching Kassian running around being the clown he is I thought in 3 or 4 years Nurse will speed bag that knob and any other dildo trying to hurt our better players.

At the current rate of attrition, they may all be dead in 3-4 years.

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#73 Craig1981
September 22 2013, 01:08PM
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Smokey wrote:

The Oilers needed a Center long before this.

I do think another proven bottom 2 center would of been nice, but making a big trade for a top 2 as DSF suggested is unneeded.

I am also interested to see how they will do without a proven 4th line center. Maybe we are all wrong. Maybe by sending Hall, Nuge, and Gagner to take some extra shifts on the bottom lines everything will work out......I'm not sure, all I am saying is its too early to panic.

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#74 Reinman
September 22 2013, 01:31PM
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JJ wrote:

No Snowpants? No problem.

Perron - Hall - Hemsky Omark - Eberle - Yakupov Smyth - Gordon - Joensuu Eager - Lander - Brown

I hope Omark makes the team just to see the reaction from all you haters of our swedish youtube sensation.

I was thinking the exact same thing. At least with ebs in the middle and Omark on his wing, we still look like we have 2 scoring lines.

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#75 Kevrock
September 22 2013, 02:48PM
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Vancouver and Calgary as the work their way to the basement are very much going to be Monsters INC. League office better come down hard and fast on Vancouver for the gong show they put on last night.

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#76 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
September 22 2013, 02:53PM
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David S wrote:

Despite the reality that any retaliation for Kassian smashing Gagner would have come...wait for it...AFTER THE FACT.

Yes David ...time is a continuim.....thank you for that...

Point is, we'd be taking matters into our own hands.

I'm guessing you had you older sister fight your fights for you on the play ground?

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#77 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
September 22 2013, 03:41PM
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pkam wrote:

Okay, Ben Eager is not the answer. How about Steve McIntyre? Would he be scary enough to be the deterrent?

The Oilers injury report: 2009-10: 530 man games 2010-11: 281 man games 2011-12: 246 man games 2012-13: 118 man games (202 prorated for 82 games)

So we had McIntyre in 09-10 and 10-11, but we had more man games lost in those 2 years.

McIntyre KO the Flames enforcer Ivanans in game 1 but our young stars were still being run and finally Hall to fight Dorsett and end his season early. Isn't the same year that Raffi elbow Eberle at his head?

Can you explain why having McIntyre didn't stop the other teams from running our young stars?

I have seen Pest Cooke, Avery, Clutterbuck, etc running star players all these years and never have to fight an enforcer once.

After Nolan hit his teammate, Bissonnette jumped the bench to fight Nolan and got a game misconduct and 10 game suspension, let's see if this will stop the Kings from running their players. I really doubt it.

Question for you Pkam....no sarcasm....no ill will intended.....

When a guy like Mike Brown steps in and takes matters into his own hands by fighting someone on the opposition, Why do the rest of his teammates stand up and bang their sticks on the boards?

Why, after winning a car at an all star game, did Wayne Gretzky give that car to Dave Semenko? Semenko didn't play in that game.

If you can understand the answer to those two questions, you'll understand, at least in part, the arguments I'm making in this thread.

To misqoute Yogi Berra....the game is 2/3's mental...the other half is physical.

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#78 thebiggestmanintheworld
September 22 2013, 06:01PM
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Every team has a reputation.

It doesn't matter what we, as fans, think of them. The players know each team and their players.

Vancouver's rep for being greasy divers is well deserved.

Edmonton's rep for being butter soft and easy to play against is as well.

Enforcer, goons, pests, a good death stare are all well and good, and I have no clue what the "answer" is, but make no mistake about it....

No team fears playing the Oilers.

That has to change if this team is going to win.

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#79 thebiggestmanintheworld
September 22 2013, 07:16PM
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ed in edmonton wrote:

Do you think teams "feared" playing Chicago last year (in a physical sense)?

Yes, I do think teams "feared" playing Chicago last year. Physically and mentally feared it.

Chasing the puck all night is not fun. Skating hard for every loose puck is draining. Scrambling in your own zone is exhausting. Getting hit every time you touch the puck wears you down...

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#80 Wonger
September 22 2013, 11:36AM
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Yakman wrote:

Fists are good. Goals are better.

NO!!! NOT IN MEANINGLESS EXHIBITION GAMES!!! MCGRATTAN.,BIG JOHN SCOTT OR MACINTYRE WOULDBE BEST!!!!!!!!!!

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#81 LoweBlow
September 22 2013, 12:38PM
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This is why the Oil should have signed Grabo. Now MacT will pay the price for lacking centre depth. There isn't even one true C in the top 6 now.

Also, Oil need to get a whole lot more mean. Feed them bowls of blood before the game or whatever. If Hall or Gags are even looked at the wrong way, Brown should be out there crushing skulls.

I'd be happy if Omark was on the team, but I'd like to see Eager & Brown on the 4th line. Oilers need their own nuclear deterrent.

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#82 Smokey
September 22 2013, 12:45PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Disagree. I do think the Oilers should have addressed center more this summer, though.

I was iffy on the Oilers making the playoffs before, but getting outta the gate with Hall learning to play center, Gordon as your number 2, Lander, Hammy/Acton/Arco as your 3/4 is not exactly depth. Then add RNH coming in not up to speed until mid Nov.

MacT signed too many bloody dmen and ignored the ginormous hole at center. I doubt there was a contingency plan. If any centers got hurt, the Oilers will have two AHL tweeners carrying the 3-4 center positions. This team is built backasswards. MacT sounds good when he talks but his decisions thus far are questionable, and poorly thought out. Overpaying Ference, signing Garbagekov for what reason, releasing Rajala, extending RNH early, the second round 2 for 5 deal, firing yet another coach and lack of bottom six forwards especially centers. What I find scary is he almost pulled a Sather like "Gomezian" deal when he nearly signed Clarkson for 7 mil, because he doesn't get the market place and based decisions on his IQ pseudo intelligence. We have become the most disfunctional saga in NHL, replacing the Islanders. Never boring, but never winning.

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#83 pkam
September 22 2013, 02:36PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

This is the first real test of our new coach. He sat up high and watched our young stars get butchered......lets see how he reacts......does he pull a Lowetide and keep/add Hamilton on the roster....or does he make some demands on his GM to get muscle added to the lineup?

Ben Eagre is not the answer....Ben Eagre has been seriously concussed and has no desire (and rightfully so) to risk another more serious head injury.

And all you pretty things out there that are counting on the league (Brendan Shanahan) to protect you after the fact are FRANKING CLUELESS....this is a man's game....either you step up or you get stepped on....you fight your own battles...so cut the intellectualizing and the whining that follows..".oh those other teams are so mean"...."oh the refs are so unfair"...."oh the league should do something".....CLUELESS FRANKING PANSIES!

Okay, Ben Eager is not the answer. How about Steve McIntyre? Would he be scary enough to be the deterrent?

The Oilers injury report: 2009-10: 530 man games 2010-11: 281 man games 2011-12: 246 man games 2012-13: 118 man games (202 prorated for 82 games)

So we had McIntyre in 09-10 and 10-11, but we had more man games lost in those 2 years.

McIntyre KO the Flames enforcer Ivanans in game 1 but our young stars were still being run and finally Hall to fight Dorsett and end his season early. Isn't the same year that Raffi elbow Eberle at his head?

Can you explain why having McIntyre didn't stop the other teams from running our young stars?

I have seen Pest Cooke, Avery, Clutterbuck, etc running star players all these years and never have to fight an enforcer once.

After Nolan hit his teammate, Bissonnette jumped the bench to fight Nolan and got a game misconduct and 10 game suspension, let's see if this will stop the Kings from running their players. I really doubt it.

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#84 michael
September 22 2013, 03:58PM
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Semenko works for the Oilers and is and always will be one of the top 10 Oilers in terms of who people will always remember. He is as iconic as Messier or Gretzky. Who will remember that Louis Debrusk was an Oiler in 20 years? Mike Brown has earned a job on this roster because he not only fights but he has earned his teammates respect for his play. What has Eager done? Zip. Gotta step up and earn your spot.

Fedun? Has stepped up. Deserves a spot. Rimmer? Deserves a contract in Bakersfield.

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#85 Ivan Drago
September 22 2013, 11:43AM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

Congrats you have just won the award for dumbest and most irrelevant comment of the month. Good job.

We all knew C depth was gonna be a problem, thought we'd at least make it to the regular season though.

MacT, over to you, I have faith.

My comment is in reference to the FIRST poster.

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#86 Oiler Al
September 22 2013, 11:58AM
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Its going to be a long season, before it even starts. Is there a softer team in the NHL than the OIlers.?

Skill, will overcome ,the griddy teams! Nice theory only if the sill guys are still on the ice..

This team needs more than just Brown taking care of business.Tough division and Oiler don't have an answer for it. Hell, they don't even have an answer for center postion, something that fans were screaming about all summer long... MacTs answer is Acton.

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#87 Max Powers - Team HME Evans
September 22 2013, 12:10PM
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@The Soup Fascist

Lol'd at the buffet and peckham references

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#88 Reinman
September 22 2013, 12:44PM
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No Omark? This should be his chance... Hope he and Yakapov light it up tomorrow night.

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#89 Reinman
September 22 2013, 12:45PM
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Oh and lines in practice today

Omark-Gordon-Yakupov Jonesuu-Arcobello-Pitlick Smyth-Hall-Hemsky Jones-Lander-Hamilton Eager-Acton-Brown

And the defence pairings:

Ference-J. Schultz Belov-Larsen Smid-N. Schultz Fedun

The only two goaltenders remaining in camp are Devan Dubnyk and Jason LaBarbera.

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#90 pkam
September 22 2013, 02:44PM
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The best way to payback, with interest, is to do the same to the Sedins (I mean Sedins, not just Sedin). If we are going to get a game misconduct or suspension, make sure one of the star players will be out longer than the suspension.

We have many players, Jones, Eager, Joensuu, Brown, Acton, Hamilton, Lander, who should be good candidates of doing it, just need more practice so they don't miss it when the opportunity comes.

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#91 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
September 22 2013, 03:15PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

Wow, you got a lot of internal rage there......you might want to see someone about that.

The game I saw Edmonton clearly out played Vancouver and I didn't see out team getting "butchered".

Ben Eager fought just as much as he typically does and I have ZERO idea where that comment came from.

Who exactly do you think would need to be in the lineup to have teams be too scared to hit our players?? lol

Not you!

LOL

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#92 michael
September 22 2013, 03:49PM
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Arcobello and Omark play the first month. No way should Eakins be thinking of sending either to OKC. We need their skill. Balance their size with Hamilton and Jonesuu.

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#93 pkam
September 22 2013, 04:26PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Question for you Pkam....no sarcasm....no ill will intended.....

When a guy like Mike Brown steps in and takes matters into his own hands by fighting someone on the opposition, Why do the rest of his teammates stand up and bang their sticks on the boards?

Why, after winning a car at an all star game, did Wayne Gretzky give that car to Dave Semenko? Semenko didn't play in that game.

If you can understand the answer to those two questions, you'll understand, at least in part, the arguments I'm making in this thread.

To misqoute Yogi Berra....the game is 2/3's mental...the other half is physical.

Because they enjoy watching fighting like some of the fans do?

They can fight all they want, my point is it won't stop the other team from cheap shot by winning a few meaningless fights. And it definitely will not win you any game.

To some fans, they feel they get some value back if there is a few fights even if their team lose, not me. I couldn't care how many fights we win if we lose the game.

If an enforcer or some fighting can keep the other teams playing honest, I am all for it. But so far I am not convinced.

If you enjoy to watch fighting, that is fine with me. But if you argue that fighting can protect our star players, you have to support your argument with some facts, not just opinion.

I support my argument with facts why I don't think it will work. Where is the facts of your argument?

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#94 ed in edmonton
September 22 2013, 06:23PM
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thebiggestmanintheworld wrote:

Every team has a reputation.

It doesn't matter what we, as fans, think of them. The players know each team and their players.

Vancouver's rep for being greasy divers is well deserved.

Edmonton's rep for being butter soft and easy to play against is as well.

Enforcer, goons, pests, a good death stare are all well and good, and I have no clue what the "answer" is, but make no mistake about it....

No team fears playing the Oilers.

That has to change if this team is going to win.

Do you think teams "feared" playing Chicago last year (in a physical sense)?

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#95 Smokey
September 22 2013, 09:53PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Nice to see Eakin and MacT taking the night off during a game to hobknob with Katz and family in his private box! Whats that all about.?

Next thing you know the Curly kid will be sitting in the players box to watch the games.

Bit of Gong show if you ask me. Always dangerous when the owner gets that close to hockey operations.

You don't pay 200 mil and have no say in terms of some decisions. No different then any other team.

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#96 2004Z06
September 22 2013, 10:24PM
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I love how everyone is bashing Mac T for not addressing the center position over the summer. Pretty sure he tried. Also pretty sure he isn't going to turn over half the roster in one summer. Give it a rest, none of us know what he tried to do.

As for a deterent to dirty and cheap shots? Only one answer....get rid of the instigator rule. It protects the cheap shot artists.

Gagner won't miss too much regular season time. He will be back with a full cage in a few weeks.

The sky is not falling people!

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#98 Crackenbury
September 22 2013, 11:41AM
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I think another temporary answer for a top-2 centre is already on the roster. Perron has the smarts and is already fairly good on the dot. He can fill in for a couple of weeks without missing a beat. I believe he played a bit last night after Gagner went down.

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#99 DSF
September 22 2013, 12:54PM
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Sliderule wrote:

Since the draft Seguin has played hardly any center.

Last year Hall took more face-offs than Seguin and at 55 percent had better success.

Hall played almost half of his last junior year at center so you could say they drafted a center.

As Hall will Be playing center for a good part of season and Seguin is finally being tried at the position we should find out who is the better center If they actually keep them there.

Yes.

Should be really interesting to watch.

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#100 freelancer
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@Smokey

Fair enough. Either way I expect Gagner back faster than Nuge still. We would be looking at 4-6 games with that kind of line setup.

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