GDB -2: PLAYERS WILL DECIDE WHO MAKES THE TEAM

Jason Gregor
September 24 2013 12:29PM

Prior to yesterday's 2-1 victory over the Jets, Dallas Eakins stated the players will decide who makes this team, based on how they play. He admitted the final cuts will be difficult, but in most cases the players will play their way off, or on, the team.

In certain cases a veteran on a one-way deal might get the benefit of the doubt over a young player on a two-way contract, but the majority of the players who are here next week will have earned their spot.

I'd say 16 of the final 23 roster spots are locks, while the rest look pretty clear.

Forwards (9):

Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov, David Perron, Ales Hemsky, Ryan Smyth, Boyd Gordon, Jesse Joensuu and Steve MacIntyre.

Joensuu's play in the preseason has guaranteed he'll start the season here, but he'll need to continue his strong play when the games count to stay a regular in the lineup. By adding MacIntyre the Oilers told the league they were sick of teams taking liberties with their players, if he isn't in the opening night lineup, then claiming him on waivers was pointless.

D-men (5):

Justin Schultz, Andrew Ference, Jeff Petry, Ladislav Smid and Nick Schultz.

Goalies (2):

Devan Dubnyk and Jason LaBarbera

That leaves seven roster spots, four for opening night and three extra skaters.

The battle for the seven remaining spots, won't be as suspenseful as some thought a few weeks ago.

Three forward positions: two centres and one winger.

Marc Arcobello benefits from Sam Gagner's injury and unless the Oiles make a waiver claim on a centre, he'll be in the opening lineup. Neither he, nor Anton Lander has played exceptionally well thus far, but he's been the best of the two. He'll need to play better than he has to be a factor in the regular season. 

Will Acton played well last night, and he's done more than Lander, but it's almost like he will win the 4th line job by default. Acton will need to play much better to remain in the lineup when Gagner returns.

Acton and Arcobello's biggest challenge will come from the waiver wire. If a veteran centre is exposed, I think Craig MacTavish will seriously consider claiming him.

Lander hasn't had a strong camp. He hasn't stood out in any game and I think he's destined for OKC. I doubt any Oiler fan thought the Oilers would enter the season with a weaker centre depth than they did last year, but today that's how it looks.

Mike Brown, Ryan Jones, Ben Eager, Ryan Hamilton and Tyler Pitlick are battling for the 12th forward spot on opening night.

Pitlick has played well his last two games, but you have to consider the opposition when grading him. The lineups he played against weren't NHL caliber, and that is a factor. He'll need to be incredible tonight to be here next week. I'd rather see him play top-line minutes in the AHL than be the 12th, 13th or 14th forward.

Brown has been the most consistent of the remaining four. He isn't going to bring much offence, but he knows his role and he'll crash and bang every shift.

Jones started well, but he's been average the past week. Eakins said he's been happy with Jones intensity, but he'd like to see him produce some more points.

Eager had a good game in Vancouver, but he didn't do much last night. Eakins likes his speed, while his size and ability to play physical will get him another game. He needs to make an impression or he will be in the pressbox on opening night.

Hamilton started well, but hasn't done much the past few games. I think his two-way deal will have him starting the season in the AHL.

My guess is Brown, Jones and Eager make the final roster, and who is the 12th forward will depend on the next two games.

D-MEN

Denis Grebeshkov is out with a groin injury, so that means Anton Belov, Philip Larsen and Darnell Nurse will battle for sixth spot. Belov has looked good, although he'll need to move the puck quicker. It will take him a few more games to get accustomed to the speed of the NHL. Everything happens faster on the smaller ice than it does in the KHL, but he's a smart player and he's got the potential to become a solid NHL D-man.

Nurse was great in Vancouver, and okay at home. Unless he plays incredible tonight and Friday, if he's dressed, I think the Oilers will let him continue to develop in junior. Fedun only has one year of pro experience, he needs more seasoning.

Larsen has been up and down thus far. He struggled in Calgary, was great in Winnipeg and he was solid again last night. He moves the puck very well, and I think the next two games will decide if he or Belov will start against the Winnipeg Jets on opening night.

LINEUP

Smyth-Hall-Hemsky
Perron-Arcobello-Eberle
Jones-Lander-Pitlick
Eager-Acton-Hamilton

The Rangers aren't dressing many of their skilled forwards, but they are dressing three guys who can fight: Aaron Asham, Derrick Dorsett and Mike Haley.

If the Oilers are serious about wanting to protect their players, then they should dress Eager and Steve MacIntyre. MacIntyre arrives in Edmonton this afternoon, and you know he'll be pumped to play. In all my years covering the NHL I've never met a player who was more excited an appreciative to be in the NHL. MacIntyre knows his limitations and I still remember talking to him after his first NHL game. He almost cried he was so overwhelmed, especially because his father got the chance to watch him live. I know MacIntyre would love to dress tonight.

If the Oilers, and specifically Eakins, are serious about protecting their stars and being more aggressive, then tonight is the game they need to dress both Eager and MacIntyre.

Nurse-J.Schultz
Fedun-Petry
Belov-Larsen

Belov and Larsen are in a great battle for the 6th spot, and tonight's play will impact who starts next Tuesday and who is in the pressbox.

LaBarbera will start in goal.

RANGERS LINEUP

Pouliot-Brassard-Zuccarello
Kreider-Miller-Asham
Hrivik-Lindberg-Kristo
Haley-Moore-Dorsett

McDonagh-Girardi
Staal-Allen
Johnson-Hughes

Talbot
Biron

QUICK HITS

  • Eakins said the 94-4-83 line has been his best line thus far and he has no intention of breaking them up. He'd like to have a scoring threat on his top-three lines, and that's why we will likely see Jesse Joensuu-Boyd Gordon-Nail Yakupov as the 3rd line on opening night. All of those who wrote of Ryan Smyth, might need to retract their obituary.
     
  • Linus Omark was put on waivers today, and if he isn't claimed he'll fly with the team to OKC tomorrow. The Oilers will spend three days in OKC. Eakins feels the team needs some time outside of Edmonton to bond and get focused for the season.
     
  • Omark didn't so much in preseason, and according to Eakins he tried to do too much on his own. Not in a selfish way, but Eakins suggested Omark needed to use his teammates more.
     
  • Final thought... David Clarkson gets a 10-game suspension for leaving the bench. He didn't throw a punch when he entered the melee and basically played peacemaker, but he received a ten-game suspension. Meanwhile Zack Kassian broke Sam Gagner's jaw with a careless and gutless slash, but he only got five games.

    I don't have an issue with the NHL having a set suspension for leaving the bench. You do the crime, you do the time. But is it possible they could look at implementing similar minimums for stick infractions. If you slash a guy in the face it is 10 games. The end result shouldn't matter. If you chicken wing/elbow a guy in the head it is an automatic five-game suspension.

    I know the end result is different, and some slashes or elbows are worse than others, but if Clarkson had thrown five punches he'd still be sitting out ten games. He threw none, yet he's out 10 games.

    Why not just set a guaranteed suspension for other infractions?

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#1 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
September 24 2013, 02:28PM
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DSF wrote:

What would you have given Taylor Hall when he deliberately targeted Clutterbucks knee?

A Trophy and a Hooker!

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#2 TeamOmark
September 24 2013, 01:02PM
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@madjam

madjam, lay off the crack. You give Nurse some time in the OHL. That's how all the top defenders of the league developed into what they are today. Pietro, Subban, Weber, Karlsson...

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#3 @Oilanderp
September 24 2013, 02:01PM
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Gregor, if the Oil don't dress Stevie Mac, what do you think the suspension will be for a guy jumping out of the press box and onto the ice?

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#4 oilerman53
September 24 2013, 01:56PM
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I used to get slammed at the notion of dressing a feared enforcer for the Oilers! Now after the Kassian and Weise incidents people are praising the the return of SMac. Van has been one of those teams who has constantly taken runs at the Oilers over the years. It always seemed the Oil were the bigger team and walk away. Whether it be Bieksa running the kids or Kesler snd Burrows doing their best dives. I hate Vancouver with passion, gutless and arrogant team. I hope SMac goes out and delivers a bone shattering check to one of the Sedins just to show we aint effing around anymore.

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#5 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
September 24 2013, 12:33PM
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FIST FOR SMAC!

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#6 oilfan in yyc
September 24 2013, 01:32PM
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@michael

Uhhh, Star Wars wasn't space launched nukes, it was about stopping inbound nukes, which is what I guess you're hoping for with Smac

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#7 NJ
September 24 2013, 12:48PM
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Jason: No mention of Fedun, yet he's still here, survived what, 4 cuts... And in the lineup tonight? Did I miss something?

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#8 Rob...
September 24 2013, 03:37PM
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tileguy wrote:

Not if they have to rule on intent. Go to canucks army and read all the posts about it being an accident. I'm biased but there was real intent to slash, maybe just not to the mouth. (or was there?)

Pay them no mind. They're the same people who think Bieksa is a clean player. They also think that we are comparing Gagner to Sedin, instead of us wanting the Oilers targeting skilled players in retaliation for the Canucks targeting skilled players.

I think that the ocean air rots their brain.

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#9 Darrell
September 24 2013, 01:33PM
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DSF wrote:

Kassian got 8 games.

I am going to read between the lines here DSF.

I bet your thinking Vancouver is tough for breaking Gags jaw and throwing a conclusion type elbow at our franchise player in Hall. That's not tough, its illegal and the fact Kassian dissed Mac shows he does not give a sh!t he hurt Gags.

Lets me be the first to apologize if that's not your train of thought but either-way expect a good clean ass kicking as a result and don't like Vancouvers odds !

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#10 Cody anderson
September 24 2013, 01:43PM
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I hope they send SMAC on a mission first game against Van. Nothing sends a clearer message then having the stretcher brought out for Kassian after his reckless play hurts one of our top players.

I don't think SMAC needs to play in order to be effective. Having him dressed sitting at the end of the bench with a very clear mandate that nothing is tolerated will be noticed and remembered.

Every dirty hit, cheap stick, or knee is met with a vicious beating on the offending party. His job should not be to fight the other team's heavyweight unless it was the heavyweight that stepped out of line. The "code" is fine in staged fights, but the enforcers job should be to protect his teammates against all enemies. He should not give a dirty player the option to fight. He should attack, and keep beating him until the refs pull him off.

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#11 gord962
September 24 2013, 03:25PM
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Greg Steinke wrote:

I am sad they waived him. He is a very talented playmaker that needs to play with the right players to succeed. Consider his stats in Zug last year where he played with Henrik Zetterberg. Compare Zetterberg at Zug last year 23 games 16-16-32. +17. vs. Omark at Zug 48 games 17-52-69 +18. According to that Omark is as good if not better than Zetterberg. Is it just that the Oilers aren’t tapping into his potential? Or are they not giving him enough time to adapt to the NHL game? I think since he is a playmaker they need to find the right player(s) for him to play with. I don’t think they value him like they should. I hope he tears it up in OKC and the Oilers think deeply about how to help him reach his potential.

I like Omark and was happy to see him resigned but he did NOTHING on the ice to earn a roster spot.

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#12 Baresnake
September 24 2013, 01:28PM
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TeamOmark wrote:

Omark put on waivers breaks my heart. He played on Zetterberg/Brunner caliber in the Swiss league but yet the Oil wouldn't give him more than 3 games to prove it. I think it'll be a big mistake if he's claimed, and all he needed was some time to adjust. What a terrible injustice.

It was a terrible injustice that he was brought back for a tryout in the first place. One lucky (but I admit awesome) shootout goal, and some youtube highlights from Europe are all he's done. O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D.

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#13 michael
September 24 2013, 01:06PM
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Dorsett was Halls nemesis that knocked him out a couple of years ago? Smack will play. I don't think anything will stop him from suiting up tonight. His adrenaline level will massive. I expect to see him deliver some crushing body checks tonight. Your right about not taking it anymore.

Listening to Struds on Lowetides show today and he spoke to the lack of opponents for Smack. Honestly if Smack does not fight a single fight this season is exactly what the team wants. If he doesn't drop the gloves that tells me he is doing his job. Tells me the other team is aware of the deal and that players on the Oilers like Hall,RNH and the rest will get the space and respect to play the game at the highest level. If Smack is fighting that tells me that the other team is doing stuff that needs corrected in a severe manner.

Ronald Reagan ended the Cold War with 2 words. "Star Wars". The Russians so feared the possibility of a space based Nuclear attack that they capitulated and ever since the threat of Nuclear War has waned.

The Oilers added their own "Star Wars" threat in Steve MacIntyre. He is a weapon a mass destruction. I for one feeling better knowing that our primary assets will have a guy at the end of the bench who is the answer to the question. Who's your daddy?

Love Rob Browns comment on the post game show on Ched last night. When asked about enforcers. No Sir MR.Probert we have no problem. Right answer. Especially to that guy.

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#14 Time Travelling Sean
September 24 2013, 02:55PM
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@Oiler Al

I've only seen one preseason game, but Smyth hasn't looked awful, quite the contrary he's played well I think. Hemmer has seemed invisible some shifts and good some others, Jones has played awful.

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#15 Darrell
September 24 2013, 01:52PM
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DSF wrote:

What would you have given Taylor Hall when he deliberately targeted Clutterbucks knee?

Good point ! Plus Hall also made him look like a pussy and get traded ...

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#16 Pouzar99
September 24 2013, 01:16PM
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Belov and Larsen are both playing better than Nick Schultz, who was particularly woeful last night. Thanks to John Chambers for the first literary allusion I've seen on Oilers Nation. And it is 5 games for Kassian, as missing exhibition games is meaningless.

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#17 Cody anderson
September 24 2013, 01:31PM
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I liked the Omark signing, although I did not think he was what this team needed. With all of Ebs, Yak, and Hemsky being far more efficient on the right and Hall moving from the left side to centre I thought it would give omark a chance to play with real skill.

I think the benefit to this was to build trade value and have a legit scoring threat. They could have given him another game, but with the mantra that the players will decide......he did not earn or win a spot on this team.

I was also a huge Smyth fan prior to that last year and a half and a Jones booster prior to his eye injury. I would not have either of them on my opening night roster either.

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#18 CaptainLander
September 24 2013, 01:35PM
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I think I have seen enough of Belov, he is on my team. Moves the puck very well and is already the second best choice to play on the PP behind J. Schultz. Also like Larsson's play but if I have to pick I take Belov. Size does matter. In fact I don't have an issue keeping both in the starting roster.

Ference J. Schultz Smid Petry Larsson Belov N.Schultz

On a side not there is so much concern about the Oil center position that it has been a while since there has been mention about the Oiler's defensive issues. Must be things have improved there. Was this not the Oilers biggest issue coming into the off season?

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#19 I tried it at home
September 24 2013, 02:35PM
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Dear Mr MacIntyre, let me welcome you home to the Oilers. Also, please allow a few words on how to stay here. Forget the code. Who cares if no one wants to fight with you. If anyone tries to do what Regehr did to Hemsky all those times, you go out and make him regret it. A lot. Heck, make his line mates regret it too. Then sit back on your suspension and count your (continuing) paychecks. We want you here, believe me. Just leave the boy scout stuff in your locker, please.

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#20 oilerjed
September 24 2013, 02:48PM
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DSF wrote:

But Clarkson makes 10 times much as Kassian.

Duh.

You must be bored this afternoon. Your arguments are making no relevent points about the suspensions. What the player makes is besides the point when determining a suspension. The point is that a player who broke a rule that carried an automatic suspension gets 10 games while not actually inflicting any damage to anybody. On the other hand you have a player that semi intentionally swung his stick at anothers head and broke his jaw in two places and got 5 games. Pre season games should not count. How many games did McSorely get? If you try and say that Kassian didnt intentionally swing his stick to hit Gags, then the question is how didnt he expect to hit gags or anyone else skating by. 6'long stick and another 3' of arm. That is a 9' kill zone in which he is swinging his stick with full strength. IMO If the NHL is giving 10 games for leaving the bench, the severity of other suspensions should start from that point. If it is more violent more then 10 games and vice versa.

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#21 Racki
September 24 2013, 03:10PM
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Time Travelling Sean wrote:

I've only seen one preseason game, but Smyth hasn't looked awful, quite the contrary he's played well I think. Hemmer has seemed invisible some shifts and good some others, Jones has played awful.

If you've only seen one preseason game perhaps your opinion on Hemsky needing to be cut is worth a jar of piss. He has been very good with Hall so far. Even Smyth looks good so far. I think they've made Hall at C a lot more possible. People need to check their previously formed opinions at the door. Clean slate. FYI, I wanted Hemsky traded this off season but he looks great so far. They push the play and allow other scoring lines better opportunity to score too since they can go power vs power. As for Jones, you did get that one right, and I do like him, however. He is going to likely lose his job here.

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#22 Racki
September 24 2013, 02:28PM
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They need to dress brown and MacIntyre not eager. Until he shows he can still fight, eager isn't my go to guy for fighting...

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#23 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
September 24 2013, 02:29PM
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And the "C"...

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#25 TeamOmark
September 24 2013, 12:42PM
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Omark put on waivers breaks my heart. He played on Zetterberg/Brunner caliber in the Swiss league but yet the Oil wouldn't give him more than 3 games to prove it. I think it'll be a big mistake if he's claimed, and all he needed was some time to adjust. What a terrible injustice.

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#26 Will
September 24 2013, 02:33PM
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Cody anderson wrote:

I hope they send SMAC on a mission first game against Van. Nothing sends a clearer message then having the stretcher brought out for Kassian after his reckless play hurts one of our top players.

I don't think SMAC needs to play in order to be effective. Having him dressed sitting at the end of the bench with a very clear mandate that nothing is tolerated will be noticed and remembered.

Every dirty hit, cheap stick, or knee is met with a vicious beating on the offending party. His job should not be to fight the other team's heavyweight unless it was the heavyweight that stepped out of line. The "code" is fine in staged fights, but the enforcers job should be to protect his teammates against all enemies. He should not give a dirty player the option to fight. He should attack, and keep beating him until the refs pull him off.

Kassian will still be on suspension for that game, so unless he dies of boredom in the press box, he will not be leaving the game on a stretcher.

What we should do is run the other team's skill, what I think happens is that we do. The Sedins, just like our Hall's and Eberle's, get run every single game.

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#27 Papamike
September 24 2013, 03:23PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

A Trophy and a Hooker!

That is funny right there! I liked how Hall did that (the knee) as I am old school. Alas the times are a changing. I think the league needs to hand out more serious punishment if they want to truly stop the stoopid injuries. And yes, the Kassian was stoopid. It will be interesting to see how Shanahan works this year

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#28 gord962
September 24 2013, 03:34PM
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tileguy wrote:

Not if they have to rule on intent. Go to canucks army and read all the posts about it being an accident. I'm biased but there was real intent to slash, maybe just not to the mouth. (or was there?)

Intent to strike Gagner or not, there was intent by Kassian to swing his stick. Players are accountable for what their stick hits.

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#29 Quicksilver ballet
September 24 2013, 12:53PM
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What a load of fluff..

It'll be the guy who has the one way deal over the guy with the two way deal that has the upper hand on said roster spot. Same crap material for the media types year after year. Eakins will be told who's staying and who's going.

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#30 MattL
September 24 2013, 09:29PM
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I wonder if Nurse has any interest in playing 2nd line centre.

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#31 gord962
September 24 2013, 02:29PM
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DSF wrote:

Nope.

Wrong again.

Clarkson can play pre-season games while Kassian has to sit out 3 pre-season and 5 regular season games.

Clarkson, thus, got 2 more games than Kassian.

I have ignored the troll too long but here is the difference. There was no way that Kassian was going to play all 3 remaining preseason games. On top of it, preseason is meaningless so who cares how many preseason games someone missed? The onlything that REALLY matters is one misses 5 regular season games and the other misses 10. I'm sure Clarkson would throw in the remaining Toronto preseason games onto his suspension as most vets don't want to play preseason games anyway.

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#32 pkam
September 24 2013, 02:57PM
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I know I'll get a ton of thumb down.

If you can make 700K+ running NHL star players and take a beating once in a while, or make $10 an hour at Tim Hortons or a gas station, what is your choice?

We all know that if I don't drop my gloves, the referees will jump right in after one or two punches. All I have to do is turtle so I would get punch in my head.

There will be no names who can hardly plays the games lining up to take that beating for that big pay cheque. Unless we target their star players, it won't deter their GM or coach from running our star players.

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#33 Lochenzo
September 24 2013, 03:37PM
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Eager should be a good forechecker with his combination of size and speed. He needs to bang and crash to stick. Asking Ben to fight now is not good for Ben and not good for the team if he spends half a season on IR.

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#34 bazmagoo
September 24 2013, 01:08PM
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Love the fact that Eakins wants 3 scoring lines and one energy line, that's how you win in today's NHL in my opinion. Full team defence combined with full team offence is the only way to put it together.

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#35 TonyT
September 24 2013, 01:46PM
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Totally agree on standardized suspensions. Removing the grey area will make Shanahan's job easier and give his office credibility.

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#36 Papamike
September 24 2013, 03:31PM
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tileguy wrote:

Not if they have to rule on intent. Go to canucks army and read all the posts about it being an accident. I'm biased but there was real intent to slash, maybe just not to the mouth. (or was there?)

That was no accident by any means. The only problem (excuse) was the hight differential between the two men. The suspension should have been longer as it was no where near what anyone would consider it a "hockey play"

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#37 WONGER
September 24 2013, 03:45PM
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I tried it at home wrote:

Dear Mr MacIntyre, let me welcome you home to the Oilers. Also, please allow a few words on how to stay here. Forget the code. Who cares if no one wants to fight with you. If anyone tries to do what Regehr did to Hemsky all those times, you go out and make him regret it. A lot. Heck, make his line mates regret it too. Then sit back on your suspension and count your (continuing) paychecks. We want you here, believe me. Just leave the boy scout stuff in your locker, please.

WELCOME BACK STEVE!!!!! EAKINS WILL LET YOU DO YOUR JOB AND YOU WILL LOVE PLAYING FO HIM!!!!! HE AND MACT ARE WINNERS IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD! You had tears in your eyes telling Jason Gregor how special it was for your dad to watch you live in your first game as an Oiler way back. Let me tell you, there will be TEARS OF JOY AND APPRECIATION from many fans when you step onto the ice for the warm up tonight!!! WELCOME HOME BIG MAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#38 pkam
September 24 2013, 03:51PM
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Greg Steinke wrote:

I am sad they waived him. He is a very talented playmaker that needs to play with the right players to succeed. Consider his stats in Zug last year where he played with Henrik Zetterberg. Compare Zetterberg at Zug last year 23 games 16-16-32. +17. vs. Omark at Zug 48 games 17-52-69 +18. According to that Omark is as good if not better than Zetterberg. Is it just that the Oilers aren’t tapping into his potential? Or are they not giving him enough time to adapt to the NHL game? I think since he is a playmaker they need to find the right player(s) for him to play with. I don’t think they value him like they should. I hope he tears it up in OKC and the Oilers think deeply about how to help him reach his potential.

I really don't understand the love of Omark. He may have some skill and protect the puck pretty good consider his size. But he is a solo player and hang on the puck all the time. 80% of the puck cycle dies once he has the puck.

This is the type of player I hate to have on my line. Once he get the puck, you are most likely waiting to start the defense.

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#39 Alsker
September 24 2013, 08:31PM
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another great game for Perron and a strong one so far by Belov. Physical and a good slash in close, maybe he can teach Petry that move.

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#40 John Chambers
September 24 2013, 12:46PM
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Those top-2 lines for tonight's games are likely our top-2 lines for the season opener.

That means a 3rd line that likely looks like: Joensuu - Gordon - Yakupov

I can live with a 4th line of Eager - Acton - Hamilton

It's not great, but we'll beat on boats against the current.

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#41 Alsker
September 24 2013, 01:13PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

What a load of fluff..

It'll be the guy who has the one way deal over the guy with the two way deal that has the upper hand on said roster spot. Same crap material for the media types year after year. Eakins will be told who's staying and who's going.

Everyone keeps saying it and hoping it aint so, but, odds are you are probably correct. Im still keeping a glimmer of hope that Eakins keeps to his guns afterall there are more than a few opportunities NHL/AHL out there for him. If hes going to be railroaded into something he doesnt like than heres hoping hes got the stones to tell 6 rings and co. where to go and how to get there.

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#42 Time Travelling Sean
September 24 2013, 01:37PM
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Preseason isn't very important, compared to the Reg. season. It may be more important to that guy who wanted to elbow Hall in the head, but not for Kassian, not based off of Kassian's play btw, but simply because of his draft pedigree, and what Gillis gave up for him.

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#43 Simpsonite
September 24 2013, 01:45PM
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You are all assuming that Kassian was going to be playing all those pre-season games...which I doubt. Suspensions are about pay cheques (with a q) whether we agree or not. Kassian got 5. Clarkson got 10. Pre-season is a wash. Hell Clarkson, before the suspension may have only played one of those pre-season games anyway.

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#44 Cody anderson
September 24 2013, 01:51PM
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Eastern Oil wrote:

@ Jason Gregor

Sorry about the premature post, hit enter way too quickly.

Real question is: although I understand what you're saying about dressing Mac because of Asham, Dorsett and Hainsey, who do you take out to put him in?

Every guy in the bottom 6 is fighting for a job right now and only have 1-2 games left to be showcased. That's a tough call to remove one of those guys to put in someone who will not find a partner in any of the opposing players.

I agree with Jason, with the lineup they are dressing it has the potential to turn into a war. I ensure I am dressing both Eager and SMAC.

I don't worry about him finding a partner. If someone makes a dirty play you make an example out of them. You don't ask them to fight.

Pull Smyth, so we can save some energy for regular season and bump everyone up one spot.

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#45 Racki
September 24 2013, 03:33PM
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Time Travelling Sean wrote:

Are you responding to someone else? :c

Oh Crap, I am. Haha. My bad.. Carry on! Nothing to see here. My excuse.. Working on cell phone. I combined your post with oiler al's and misread part of yours. Complete goof up by me. Thanks for not smacking me down in your reply. Lol

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#46 tileguy
September 24 2013, 03:38PM
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I agree, 5 games is bullship, Gagne's livelyhood could be forever altered if it dosen't heal properly. Imagine breaking bones and you are considered a hero in some parts.

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#48 Oasis
September 24 2013, 01:04PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

Agreed.

For example, I bet Jones will find himself on this team come opening night, despite not doing much to be there. And I actually l like Jones.......but he hasn't showed me much yet.

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#49 Peachy
September 24 2013, 01:12PM
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"I know the end result is different, and some slashes or elbows are worse than others, but if Clarkson had thrown five punches he'd still be sitting out ten games. He threw none, yet he's out 10 games.

Why not just set a guaranteed suspension for other infractions?"

It might not have the impact you imagine...

Take Keith's suspension for slashing Carter in the mouth; he got one game despite all sorts of factors that pointed to a longer suspension being reasonable. If the league was given the choice of suspending for five games or none at all, which route do you think it would have taken?

Jumping off the bench is a really easy event to distinguish, and hence suspend objectively for. Slashing and the like, not so much.

With all of that said, I think "mandatory minimums" are the right way to go, but are likely to be detrimental unless the league actually puts a professional disciplinary apparatus in place first.

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#50 oilfan in yyc
September 24 2013, 02:22PM
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@michael

I agree, I hope he can be a deterrent, I think for him to be effective though he may have to drop some of his principles and beat up some guys under his weight category, only taking on other heavyweights won't do the job.

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