NURSE TO JUNIOR, EAKINS HATES SITTING BACK

Jason Gregor
September 25 2013 09:16AM

Darnell Nurse definitely made an impression in his first NHL camp. His infectious smile and polite demeanor allowed him to fit in off the ice, but it was his on-ice play that impressed his teammates the most. None of the Oilers had ever seen him play before, but his fluid skating stride grabbed their attention the first day of camp.

"He moves incredibly well," Taylor Hall said to me on the second day of training camp. "He's so smooth for a big man. He'll be scary when he fills out," continued Hall.

When Hall is impressed by a player's skating ability, you take notice.

Last Wednesday in Vancouver, Nurse played a dominating 24 minutes vs. the Canucks. He gave management, coaches, teammates and the fans a glimpse of his future potential, and he should go back to Sault Ste. Marie feeling very good about his game.

While Nurse dominated in Vancouver that night, in his other preseason games he was solid. At times he looked his age, and you could see that he'll need to add some weight to his 6'4" frame, but every game he played he did something that caught your attention.

Even the most pessimistic Oiler fan was impressed by Nurse, and in 12 months I think he'll be even more impressive.

The Oilers made the right decision to send him to junior. He'll go back to the OHL, play 25-30 minutes a night, develop his game, improve his strength and he'll take on more of a leadership role. He'll be a better player next year, and when he comes to training camp he'll be focused on making the team.

Prior to the draft I interviewed Nurse, and when I asked him about going straight to the NHL he gave an incredibly honest and mature answer, "I think I need to keep developing my game. There are areas I need to improve on, and I think it would be best for me to play another year in junior."

For Nurse to recognize in the summer that the best thing for him would be another year in junior, shows you why he'll be successful, but that doesn't he mean he wasn't crushed when Eakins told him the news last night.

"If anyone tells you it feels good to get cut, they're probably lying to you," he said. "It sucks. There's nothing fun about it but they (Oilers) have the best plan for me and my development. I'm going to go back and dominate my league and hopefully I'll have the opportunity to play in World Juniors," continued Nurse.

I love his attitude. He'll use this as motivation to become even better. He'll make a serious push for the World Junior team and that experience will also help his development.

THIS IS A GOOD THING

There is no negative in sending Nurse back to junior, the only negative out of training camp was that we didn't get to see him play against a complete NHL team. Every game he playe, the opposition had very few proven NHL players. Regardless, that game in Vancouver gave us all a glimpse of his potential. 

He didn't look out of place, even when the Sedins were on the ice, and the best part was that he didn't look intimidated at all. You can't teach confidence, and you can't teach competitiveness. Nurse has both in abundance, and I can't wait to see how he looks next September.

THREE MORE CUTS

Tyler Pitlick, Anton Lander and Taylor Fedun were assigned to OKC last night. They will be on the team charter to OKC this morning and all of them will play significant minutes in OKC this season. Fedun continues to improve. He's an incredibly smart player who rarely makes mistakes. He or Oscar Klefbom will be the first call up, if the Oilers suffer any injuries on the blueline.

Pitlick had the best training camp of his short career. He is close to being an NHL player, and if he can stay healthy this year. and keep improving. he should make a serious push to crack the lineup next season.

Lander wasn't a factor in training camp. He just never looked comfortable and wasn't able to stand out in any of the games. If he can get off to a good start and play well, I think there is a good chance he will play some games in Edmonton this season. He needs to be a leader and one of the best players every night in OKC.

***EDIT at 10:00 a.m.***

The Oilers placed Ryan Jones on waivers this morning. If he clears he'll start the season in OKC. I haven't seen anything from Ryan Hamilton or Ben Eager that suggests they are better NHL players than Jones, but Jones didn't have a strong camp and the Oilers do save cap space by keeping Hamilton up and sending Jones down.

Eager brings a completely different element, so I understand why he is here. Hamilton's footspeed in the preseason was an issue, we'll see how he looks against NHL lineups. Good for him he worked hard to make the lineup, but I don't think anyone on the Oilers fourth line is a lock to stay the entire season.

A WELCOME CHANGE

A few things I've never understood; how someone thinks Olivia Wilde isn't hot or why coaches play prevent defence in football or sit back when they have a lead in hockey.  The picture answers the first question, and when I've watched the Oilers games this season I've noticed a refreshing approach when they have a lead. Eakins wants them to keep pushing forward, rather than sitting on a lead. THANK GOODNESS.

I find when I watch games on TV, even worse on the web, that it is hard to see some of the small nuances of the game. The camera only focuses on the puck carrier, so it's hard to see what players are doing away from the play. Luckily the Oilers have had the lead for every home game this season, and I noticed early on that they never "sat back" on a lead.

In the first few games I wondered if it was just the quality of the opposition, but after watching last night's game I was confident the Oilers' were in fact trying to remain aggressive.

David Perron played in St.Louis the past few seasons, and the Blues have a reputation of protecting leads, so I asked him if Eakins' message, when protecting a lead was different than what he'd previously experienced. 

He tells us to keep going, and I love it and I think everyone in the room does. I don't think that other coaches say sit back, but they way they react it says it without saying it. If you read between the lines, it is pretty easy to figure out that (sitting back) is what they want from the team. 

If you are up 3-2, yeah you need to be smart, but even if you are down 1-0 you need to be smart. It is the same game all the time, and I like that. Dallas wants us to learn to play the same game; in the preseason, the regular season and then when we get in the playoffs we won't be as nervous. 

It is refreshing to hear that a coach is constantly telling his team to push forward, and it is equally good to hear a player already thinking about the playoffs. That is the type of attitude the Oilers need.

After speaking with Perron, I asked Eakins about his gameplan to never stop attacking. 

It kills me. It makes me crazy. I was getting ready to check myself in in the third period because we started to sit back and I don’t understand  why you would. After having great success for two periods by pushing the pace, and limiting their time and space, why would we suddenly give them time and space when the otherwas working for us. I feel the best way to defend a lead is to score a goal. That’s the way to do it. To sit back and give them chance after chance doesn’t make sense to me. 

There are things we can do in practice to work on that, but that is more of a mentality. We have to plant the seed, then start taking great care of that seed and watering it every day, and that's what we are going to do here. That is the one thing I didn't love about the game, because we started to sit back in the third period. 

When the regular season begins and the games matter, if the Oilers are sitting back on a lead, don't blame the coach. He'll be just as frustrated and perplexed as you if his team stops pushing forward. I'm curious to see how long it takes before the players are confident enough not to sit back.

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#51 Lochenzo
September 25 2013, 11:15AM
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Will wrote:

Have you been watching any clips of Nichushkin in Dallas pre season. Sending him down to AHL would hinder his development if anything since he would just skate through most of the competition down there. At least up in the NHL he'll have to learn play on both sides of the puck.

You have to evaluate what you know on draft day. We didn't know how good Nichuskin would be at camp. We also don't know what will happen if Nichuskin doesn't want to sign a bridge deal for his second contract. I'm just saying that there are risks with this player. You have to ask the question, will this guy be a player for this franchise 5 years down the road. Nichuskin certainly has the talent. But which league will he be playing in?

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#52 Doomoil
September 25 2013, 11:21AM
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@Lochenzo

he could make more money in the khl right now, today, then his ELC.

he wants to play in the nhl, and until he actually gives the hint that he's unhappy here in north america i am fully willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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#53 OilClog
September 25 2013, 11:25AM
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Debating on whether Nurse was the right choice.. Still??? Nation is such a confusing place, when the last time an Edmonton Oiler defender didn't get beaten like a rented mule by the Sedins? Nurse was/is a fantastic choice. We're spoiled to have him.

Jones on waivers.. Eakins will lead us to the glory land, this is a new day.

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#54 tileguy
September 25 2013, 11:25AM
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On Monday I want you to vote for Taylor Hall as captain. No doubt in my mind he is carrying this team, doing what is best for the team by excelling at centre and leading by example with his hard work never complaining attitude.

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#55 27Ginge
September 25 2013, 11:27AM
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This man (I initially wrote kid) is impressive. All kinds of athletic pedigree and all kinds of competitiveness. The guy was crushed when he got cut even though he know there was no chance of making the team. Absolutely love his character. Gonna be a beast for many, many years to come. A bit of a throwback guy with enough athleticism to play the new game.

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#58 bazmagoo
September 25 2013, 11:32AM
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Even though I like Jonesy, I'm glad to see him on waivers. He's one dimensional to me, and doesn't bring enough grit and size to warrant a roster spot currently. Kind of bummed for the guy, until I remember that he's guaranteed to make $1.5 million dollars this year.

Hopefully he makes it back to the big leagues some day, but he's got a lot of work ahead of him based on his performance in pre-season.

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#59 michael
September 25 2013, 11:32AM
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Jones on Waivers is not a surprise to me at all. His return from an eye injury has left him tentative. I know from my own experience the effect that this has on ones psyche. I lost my vision in my left eye due to a puck in the eye when I was very young. I did not play sports after that at all. Fear of the loss of my vision totally made me wary of sports and other situations that may have involved danger to my sight.

I said it last year and I'll say it again now. Ryan Jones has lost that part of him that gives him the edge when he is on the ice. I and others have seen it in his play. he is less engaging physically. His best chance in life is to walk away now from hockey and refocus his energies elsewhere. No shame in taking a path that leads to success in other things other than hockey. Ryan Jones was for 2 years a very good Oiler. But the injury he suffered has taken away his edge. It may be by just a little but in hockey as in all sports its that what makes the difference in being a top tier players vs being a minor leaguer.

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#60 madjam
September 25 2013, 11:45AM
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Quicksilver on the pulse of a lot of fans feelings going into the season , like it or not . Nurse decision seems more economic decision and contract numbers , than his so called lack of not making team .Will Nurse get better going back to Junior again ? Unlikely as he will not be playing with or amongst men . At least in Europe , etc. the better Juniors are playing in men's leagues . Nurse added a strong element we do not have much of and would have helped this years squad . Why they didn't allow him to stay for at least 8 games into season is puzzling - it would have done him well in his progression . I guess they want to give that time to others whom quite frankly are not as good as he . This is a controversial decision that may well backfire .

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#61 Quicksilver ballet
September 25 2013, 11:47AM
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Reg Dunlop wrote:

What are you talking about, man? McDavid is TWO years away, so we need to sewer NEXT year too.

Kicking and screaming bud, kicking and screaming... one game at a time. Hard to see the Oilers stuck in neutral for so many years. In three years, after the Oil have turned the corner, there will be nothing to complain about. Instead of passing judgement on Oiler players here on ON i'll need a new hobby.

With the Oilers being the only game in town, I guess we'll just have to force ourselves to like them. Going to be another long year boys...it's good to have a place to come and vent one game at a time.

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#62 toblerusse
September 25 2013, 11:50AM
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Your comment about watching a game on TV and it's limitations is something I think about on a regular basis and something i wait patiently for the future to change. We have such incredible technology available to us yet us, as viewers, are at the mercy of the production of the tv station we are obligated to watch.

I've seen multi-camera options online as many as 6 years ago. The NBA offered it a long time ago and I still cant believe it hasnt expanded.

I made an infographic for my job (we have a blog i run) and I put as many ideas i could into it.

http://visual.ly/future-how-we-watch-hockey

Basically i feel that we should be able to control which of the several camera angles are available at any given time. I would like to watch the powerplay from behind the net WHEN I CHOOSE TO.

I would also love to have access to any of thenumerous microphones around the rink - or better yet, one on the refs or players.

The product of watching sports on tv/online has plenty of room to grow. Billions of dollars to be made as well.

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#63 Craig1981
September 25 2013, 11:51AM
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Spydyr wrote:

99 was not too bad.

who???? hahahaha. I just had to see. I made that comment against The Great One, and still got 100 less trashed than QSB.....

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#64 Crackenbury
September 25 2013, 11:51AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Stand pat and make due with what's already in the system. Ride this season out, and hope the kids can do it on their own. One more season of hockey that doesn't matter coming to RX1 this fall.

It's difficult to understand how a team with so many holes on the roster can send someone who may have been able to contribute back to junior. To even believe he couldn't be a contributor under Eakins watch is stuborn. Guess we'll never know now. Despite being well inside the top 6 group of defenders on this team during camp, we won't get to see how he'd fare against NHL players, he didn't even get that opportunity.

I'll give you Props for being one helluva troller. You're consistency is impressive. I think you may even be starting to believe your own nonsense.

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#65 pkam
September 25 2013, 11:53AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Potter isn't even in the Oilers top-8 though... Fedun will need to beat out guys like Larsen and Belov moving forward...

Belov may start his NHL career as a 3rd pairing, but I believe he will be a top 4 just a matter of time. So Fedun does not need to beat Belov just to make to top 6.

Larsen and Grebeshkov, perhaps if they are willing to be a 3rd pairing making about 1M, which is what Potter and Fedun will be.

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#66 Tim in Kelowna
September 25 2013, 12:00PM
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Gregor, I`ll take Olivia Munn over Olivia Wilde every time. OW is just okay-hot.

As far as Eakins pushing the pace, I totally agree. It`s been frustrating watching the Oilers for the past few seasons because it has lacked aggression. There has never been much of a forecheck, and I think the intensity Eakins is demanding will create a lot of turnovers in the offensive zone.

I`m pumped for Oct 1. The Oil will be in tough to make the playoffs, but it`s finally going to be fast paced hockey.

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#67 michael
September 25 2013, 12:02PM
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A line of Mike Brown, Eager and Smack is the definition of filthy. Light, heavy, and super heavy weight. You got 3 players who will be able to bring the boom when and as needed to pukes like Ott and suchlike. Won't be any of the bitching that Toronto did the other night after their guy got his asked kicked by a Sabre player. 3 different weight categories. Pick the guy who needs tuning in and send over the appropriate player to do the tuning. Smack may have limited opportunities for tuning but I'd rather have him on my team than someone else's. Brown and Eager will be able to give us grit and energy. Push back when we need it.

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#68 Bloodsweatandoil
September 25 2013, 12:05PM
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No offence to Jones,but he has looked awful. I'm all about giving a guy a second chance, but he obviously did not buy into Eakins/Oilers mantra this camp. Just one of many more to come of subtle signals by Oilers Management to the rest of the team....take nothing for granted!

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#69 TeamOmark
September 25 2013, 12:06PM
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michael wrote:

A line of Mike Brown, Eager and Smack is the definition of filthy. Light, heavy, and super heavy weight. You got 3 players who will be able to bring the boom when and as needed to pukes like Ott and suchlike. Won't be any of the bitching that Toronto did the other night after their guy got his asked kicked by a Sabre player. 3 different weight categories. Pick the guy who needs tuning in and send over the appropriate player to do the tuning. Smack may have limited opportunities for tuning but I'd rather have him on my team than someone else's. Brown and Eager will be able to give us grit and energy. Push back when we need it.

That would just about be the slowest line in the NHL. All it needs is an Omark in there somewhere to speed things up.

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#70 Maverick007
September 25 2013, 12:07PM
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@Gregor,

Hey man I gotta give you props for Olivia Wilde. You made my day today when I saw her. Shes been my wallpaper for over a year lol. Have you seen "Rush"?

Do you think theres a slight chance the Oil offer sheet Derek Stepan?

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#71 Quicksilver ballet
September 25 2013, 12:10PM
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@madjam

You and me bud, we'll convert all these heathens surrounding us. It just seems counter productive to bring all these kids into camp that have zero chance of making this non playoff team.

Where the Oilers are today, roster wise, wouldn't it have been a significant benefit to have been down to this group two and a half weeks ago? Implement that new system and have the guys get use to each other. Hit the ground running as a 25 man group Oct 1st. On a team that needs every competitive advantage they can get. It appears to be a missed opportunity having all these kids with zero chance of making the club just getting in the way these last couple weeks. Looks more Gong Show than serving a functional purpose if you ask me.

The serious injury to Gagner probably insures Hopkins will be rushed back into this lineup.

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#72 Geoff
September 25 2013, 12:14PM
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I for one was glad when they picked nurse in the draft. People were clammering for a top 2 defencemen with size that would play hard. Well there he is. We just have to wait now.

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#73 Maverick007
September 25 2013, 12:14PM
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Tim in Kelowna wrote:

Gregor, I`ll take Olivia Munn over Olivia Wilde every time. OW is just okay-hot.

As far as Eakins pushing the pace, I totally agree. It`s been frustrating watching the Oilers for the past few seasons because it has lacked aggression. There has never been much of a forecheck, and I think the intensity Eakins is demanding will create a lot of turnovers in the offensive zone.

I`m pumped for Oct 1. The Oil will be in tough to make the playoffs, but it`s finally going to be fast paced hockey.

"OW is just okay-hot"

How dare you???? Olivia Wilde is gods gift to mere mortals like you and me. We should be building temples in her honor.

*packs shotgun and shovel for road trip to Kelowna*

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#74 Doomoil
September 25 2013, 12:14PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

is this the first time you've ever followed a training camp?

it sure seems like it.

it's been funny watching your transition from pessimist to straight troll.

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#75 abbeef
September 25 2013, 12:16PM
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@TeamOmark

I think this line would be brutal as well but Eager is not slow at all, he is faster than Omark. All three should never be dressed for the same game as that line would give the opposition a huge advantage,

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#76 Harlie
September 25 2013, 12:17PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Jones likely has to prove he can still produce after the eye injury. Harsh, but likely the reality of how teams will look at him. Needs to move his feet and get back to skating. I suspect he'll get another shot in NHL in near future.

JG, do you think Jones knew about his waiver thing before last nights game? They showed a few closeups of him on the bench and I've never seen him with such a stone face and lack of emotion before. Seemed like he knew something was up and his mind was already working out the details.

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#77 Pucker
September 25 2013, 12:18PM
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michael wrote:

Jones on Waivers is not a surprise to me at all. His return from an eye injury has left him tentative. I know from my own experience the effect that this has on ones psyche. I lost my vision in my left eye due to a puck in the eye when I was very young. I did not play sports after that at all. Fear of the loss of my vision totally made me wary of sports and other situations that may have involved danger to my sight.

I said it last year and I'll say it again now. Ryan Jones has lost that part of him that gives him the edge when he is on the ice. I and others have seen it in his play. he is less engaging physically. His best chance in life is to walk away now from hockey and refocus his energies elsewhere. No shame in taking a path that leads to success in other things other than hockey. Ryan Jones was for 2 years a very good Oiler. But the injury he suffered has taken away his edge. It may be by just a little but in hockey as in all sports its that what makes the difference in being a top tier players vs being a minor leaguer.

I too lost the vision in an eye when young. I am quite active in many sports, including hockey and, until recently MMA.

I think it's attitude. He didn't lose vision. He just has to decide to move on and apply himself.

He seems like a good guy. I'm cheering for him but it's all up to him and his mindset. Physically he's able.

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#78 Pucker
September 25 2013, 12:22PM
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Quickie - you're gettin' old. You should get back on whatever you were before, or get off whatever you started on these past few months.

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#79 Ducey
September 25 2013, 12:23PM
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Capgeek has the Oilers as having $1.648 M in Cap room. They have adjusted for Jones but not for a few others.

When we take into account the moves in the last 24 hrs we get:

Off the books: Lander $900,000 Eager $125,000 (for his buried contract)

Added salary: Hamilton $600,000 Eager $1,100,000 Arcobello $600,000 Acton $680,000

Adjusted Cap room: $-307,000

What am I missing? It looks like they are over the Cap. Maybe Nuge and Gagner qualify for LTIR?

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#80 Quicksilver ballet
September 25 2013, 12:26PM
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Ben Eager has the wheels to play on any line, I think that's why he's still here. Eakins will give Ben a role he can succeed in rather than force him to be the player the last coach/GM wanted him to be. With the blender about to be used extensively this season, I'd kinda like to see someone/anyone slide in between Nail Yakupov and Ben Eager. Eberle,Hall,Acton,Arcobello,etc... let each one of them have a go between these two. What do they have to lose, other than another hockey game.

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#81 Romulus' Apotheosis
September 25 2013, 12:30PM
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Ducey wrote:

Capgeek has the Oilers as having $1.648 M in Cap room. They have adjusted for Jones but not for a few others.

When we take into account the moves in the last 24 hrs we get:

Off the books: Lander $900,000 Eager $125,000 (for his buried contract)

Added salary: Hamilton $600,000 Eager $1,100,000 Arcobello $600,000 Acton $680,000

Adjusted Cap room: $-307,000

What am I missing? It looks like they are over the Cap. Maybe Nuge and Gagner qualify for LTIR?

Don't forget to IR a few cats.

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#82 bazmagoo
September 25 2013, 12:31PM
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Ducey wrote:

Capgeek has the Oilers as having $1.648 M in Cap room. They have adjusted for Jones but not for a few others.

When we take into account the moves in the last 24 hrs we get:

Off the books: Lander $900,000 Eager $125,000 (for his buried contract)

Added salary: Hamilton $600,000 Eager $1,100,000 Arcobello $600,000 Acton $680,000

Adjusted Cap room: $-307,000

What am I missing? It looks like they are over the Cap. Maybe Nuge and Gagner qualify for LTIR?

I believe the Oilers have room because RNH, Yak, and J Schultz all have 2.85 in potential bonuses attached to their entry level deals. I'm not 100% positive, but I think these bonuses are pretty hard to achieve. That 8.55 million total is likely available to the Oilers in cap room.

Plus, as Romulus just stated, RNH, Gags, and Potter are on the IR

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#83 Doomoil
September 25 2013, 12:31PM
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madjam wrote:

Quicksilver on the pulse of a lot of fans feelings going into the season , like it or not . Nurse decision seems more economic decision and contract numbers , than his so called lack of not making team .Will Nurse get better going back to Junior again ? Unlikely as he will not be playing with or amongst men . At least in Europe , etc. the better Juniors are playing in men's leagues . Nurse added a strong element we do not have much of and would have helped this years squad . Why they didn't allow him to stay for at least 8 games into season is puzzling - it would have done him well in his progression . I guess they want to give that time to others whom quite frankly are not as good as he . This is a controversial decision that may well backfire .

it's not a controversial decision among anyone who has followed the development paths of any top flight defensemen not named drew doughty.

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#84 Quicksilver ballet
September 25 2013, 12:40PM
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Pucker wrote:

Quickie - you're gettin' old. You should get back on whatever you were before, or get off whatever you started on these past few months.

Change is the one constant in life. Why the need to cling to all the old traditions of decades past? Training camp was a 3 week opportunity to prepare for October 1st. Lloyd Christmas had a better shot of making this team than most of these kids who were just in the way during camp. No need to waste all this time separating the fact and fictional possibilities on this roster.

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#85 Quicksilver ballet
September 25 2013, 12:44PM
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Doomoil wrote:

is this the first time you've ever followed a training camp?

it sure seems like it.

it's been funny watching your transition from pessimist to straight troll.

Change, embrace it.

The game has changed considerably the last 25 yrs. Eakins could be the first coach to break tradition and be the first guy through the wall next fall.

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#86 Romulus' Apotheosis
September 25 2013, 12:46PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

I believe the Oilers have room because RNH, Yak, and J Schultz all have 2.85 in potential bonuses attached to their entry level deals. I'm not 100% positive, but I think these bonuses are pretty hard to achieve. That 8.55 million total is likely available to the Oilers in cap room.

Plus, as Romulus just stated, RNH, Gags, and Potter are on the IR

http://www.capgeek.com/oilers/

Unless I'm wrong, the bonuses built into ELCs count against the cap in full, whether achieved or not.

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#87 Dan 1919
September 25 2013, 01:02PM
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Shultz, Ference. Smid, Petry. Shultz, Belov

We will actually have competitive dmen this year. Looking at that roster, Petry and N.Shultz are the likely guys to be cycled in and out if they for example... pass the puck to the goal net and give it away in their own zone resulting in a goal against (Petry) on what should be a very simple pass off the boards for a millionaire playing hockey.

The D-men this year will need to be very careful not to loose their spot for a game or two, because Larsen or Fedun will take that opportunity and likely won't give it back(more so Fedun)... AKA start trembling if you continue that weak own zone play Petry.

I like the Jones on waiver move. Eager played with more speed and energy (albeit nothing spectacular), and has WAY more upside if Eakins is able to spark him.

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#88 Fresh Mess
September 25 2013, 01:16PM
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Omark?

I see Theo Peckham got waived by CHI.

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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

You and me bud, we'll convert all these heathens surrounding us. It just seems counter productive to bring all these kids into camp that have zero chance of making this non playoff team.

Where the Oilers are today, roster wise, wouldn't it have been a significant benefit to have been down to this group two and a half weeks ago? Implement that new system and have the guys get use to each other. Hit the ground running as a 25 man group Oct 1st. On a team that needs every competitive advantage they can get. It appears to be a missed opportunity having all these kids with zero chance of making the club just getting in the way these last couple weeks. Looks more Gong Show than serving a functional purpose if you ask me.

The serious injury to Gagner probably insures Hopkins will be rushed back into this lineup.

Speaks like a man with no tomorrow, just today.

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#90 Tikkanese
September 25 2013, 01:20PM
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toblerusse wrote:

Your comment about watching a game on TV and it's limitations is something I think about on a regular basis and something i wait patiently for the future to change. We have such incredible technology available to us yet us, as viewers, are at the mercy of the production of the tv station we are obligated to watch.

I've seen multi-camera options online as many as 6 years ago. The NBA offered it a long time ago and I still cant believe it hasnt expanded.

I made an infographic for my job (we have a blog i run) and I put as many ideas i could into it.

http://visual.ly/future-how-we-watch-hockey

Basically i feel that we should be able to control which of the several camera angles are available at any given time. I would like to watch the powerplay from behind the net WHEN I CHOOSE TO.

I would also love to have access to any of thenumerous microphones around the rink - or better yet, one on the refs or players.

The product of watching sports on tv/online has plenty of room to grow. Billions of dollars to be made as well.

I love the camera from behind the net angle. I wish the entire game was from that angle! You get to see the play develop as the players see it. They can revert to the 1940's side angle for replays on offsides as that is really all that it is good for.

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#91 madjam
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

You and me bud, we'll convert all these heathens surrounding us. It just seems counter productive to bring all these kids into camp that have zero chance of making this non playoff team.

Where the Oilers are today, roster wise, wouldn't it have been a significant benefit to have been down to this group two and a half weeks ago? Implement that new system and have the guys get use to each other. Hit the ground running as a 25 man group Oct 1st. On a team that needs every competitive advantage they can get. It appears to be a missed opportunity having all these kids with zero chance of making the club just getting in the way these last couple weeks. Looks more Gong Show than serving a functional purpose if you ask me.

The serious injury to Gagner probably insures Hopkins will be rushed back into this lineup.

Regular season hasn't started yet , but we could be in for more of the same as Tams was trying - thinking that we had good depth on the farm . I have a feeling MacT. will be proven wrong as was Tams in that regard . We had to use so many during exhibition because of the unfamiliarity the new coaches have for our players I suspect .

Labarbarra looks shaky and has not played many games last year or before . Have to wonder how well Smyth can contribute once the season starts . We are still getting outshot and outplayed in many periods beyond the first . defence may once again be a problem , and Dubbie is going to have to play great if we are to contend . Could end up being another disasterous year if injuries keep mounting . We have depth , but not quality depth .

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Tikkanese wrote:

I love the camera from behind the net angle. I wish the entire game was from that angle! You get to see the play develop as the players see it. They can revert to the 1940's side angle for replays on offsides as that is really all that it is good for.

If you saw the Toronto-Buffalo brawl the other night, you may have noticed 2 of the ref's were wearing Go Pro helmet cams. I couldn't find and footage from the game from the refs angle online, but I did find a video from a Detroit Exehibition game that had one ref wearing a Go Pro.

Go to google, and search "Detroit Referee Go Pro". You should get several links to the video.

I love the view on faceoffs, and from the goal line as the play moves towards the net.

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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

You and me bud, we'll convert all these heathens surrounding us. It just seems counter productive to bring all these kids into camp that have zero chance of making this non playoff team.

Where the Oilers are today, roster wise, wouldn't it have been a significant benefit to have been down to this group two and a half weeks ago? Implement that new system and have the guys get use to each other. Hit the ground running as a 25 man group Oct 1st. On a team that needs every competitive advantage they can get. It appears to be a missed opportunity having all these kids with zero chance of making the club just getting in the way these last couple weeks. Looks more Gong Show than serving a functional purpose if you ask me.

The serious injury to Gagner probably insures Hopkins will be rushed back into this lineup.

But you see all 23 players have been on the ice together since the start of preseason. They have been learning the system together. Its given players like Nurse a chance to develop with the team and given players like Omark, Jones, Pitlick, and Kelfbom have all learned the system now.

If we would of cut the team when you wanted we would of had injuries to Gagner and Grebeshkov, then had to call up players that had not been with the team. And its a long 82 games season, lets not wear everyone out.

As well playes like Belov and Eager might not be on the team.

30 teams do do not feel your way is a opportunity, so I'm quite sure it is not.

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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Change, embrace it.

The game has changed considerably the last 25 yrs. Eakins could be the first coach to break tradition and be the first guy through the wall next fall.

you're a dunce.

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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

http://www.capgeek.com/oilers/

Unless I'm wrong, the bonuses built into ELCs count against the cap in full, whether achieved or not.

They don't count against the cap, unless achieved.

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#96 TigerUnderGlass
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@Tim in Kelowna

OW is just okay-hot.

Guys who say stuff like this are the same guys who would need to change their shorts if she made eye contact.

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lol I wonder how often madjam and QSB meet under the bridge to discuss trolling and various troll-related issues. They seem to have formed the legion of trolls in the last little while. Guess we will see how long it takes DSF to join too. That would be some serious troll-power

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#98 Truth
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I thought that the new CBA made it impossible to hide 1-way contracts in the minors. If I am remembering correctly, this means Jones will count towards the cap unless he gets picked up by another team.

Edit: Please disregard. I did not realize we were on page 2 and Romulus' Apotheosis covered this already.

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#99 Mikey
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Dan 1919 wrote:

Shultz, Ference. Smid, Petry. Shultz, Belov

We will actually have competitive dmen this year. Looking at that roster, Petry and N.Shultz are the likely guys to be cycled in and out if they for example... pass the puck to the goal net and give it away in their own zone resulting in a goal against (Petry) on what should be a very simple pass off the boards for a millionaire playing hockey.

The D-men this year will need to be very careful not to loose their spot for a game or two, because Larsen or Fedun will take that opportunity and likely won't give it back(more so Fedun)... AKA start trembling if you continue that weak own zone play Petry.

I like the Jones on waiver move. Eager played with more speed and energy (albeit nothing spectacular), and has WAY more upside if Eakins is able to spark him.

What does being rich have to do with making a dumb mistake? Jealous much?

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2 things, and no, I haven't read through the monstrous pile of comments, so they may have been touched on:

1) As much as I love Jones, Joensuu seems like the new and improved. Bangs harder and moves faster

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2) though arguably more important, Olivia Wilde has always been top 5 on my "Chics I would bang if I met them--made possible only if they were by some freak chance horribly drunk" list. That list being topped right now by Serinda Swan.

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