WE WAIT

Lowetide
September 29 2013 09:24PM

The Edmonton Oilers have a bunch of guys headed for injured reserve, two on waivers and one incoming from the Dallas organization. The result? Sunday night's 22 healthy bodies may get some company tomorrow morning.

The Oilers plucked two enforcers off waivers this week, Steve MacIntyre early and then the unusually named Luke Gazdic on the weekend. GM Craig MacTavish talked all summer about adding a strong, physical element and the two waiver hires would certainly seem to be enough (some might suggest "overkill" with the possibility of Mike Brown and Ben Eager also being on the roster).

The club also waived two players thought to have made the team (Ryan Hamilton and Phil Larsen) and it's certainly an open question whether one or both will be taken from waivers tomorrow. Larsen specifically impressed during the pre-season and many are surprised this evening at his status.

All of this upheaval leaves the Oilers roster situation a little hazy this evening.

With MacIntyre joining the Nuge, Sam Gagner and Corey Potter on the sidelines (and likely heading for the IR), the Oilers have a 22 man list tonight, and that's one below the max:

  • Goal Devan Dubnyk, Jason Labarbera
  • Defense Ladislav Smid, Jeff Petry, Andrew Ference, Justin Schultz, Nick Schultz, Anton Belov, Denis Grebeshkov
  • Center Taylor Hall, Mark Arcobello, Boyd Gordon, Will Acton
  • Left Wing Ryan Smyth, David Perron, Jesse Joensuu, Luke Gazdic, Ben Eager
  • Right Wing Ales Hemsky, Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov, Mike Brown

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

MacT and Dallas Eakins clearly felt the club needed a physical element and with MacIntyre and Gazdic added to Eager and Brown that seems like enough. Possible areas of improvement include center (most teams carry 5) and defense (where Grebeshkov and Potter don't appear to be ready).

We'll see. The Oilers could enter the season with the 22 men listed above, but there's certainly a need there in the middle and some interesting players available.

Today, Gazdic. Tomorrow? We wait.

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#51 rickithebear
September 30 2013, 08:47AM
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BS-IT: Goalies cannot score goals. Gf 50% of wins. Goalies cannot prevent shots on net. 60% of GA the other half of wins. Goalies stop shots. Save% 40 % of GA 20% of wins. .914 is the league average for Goalies. Can you name the goalies who were not below average the last three years? There Save% during that time. 1. Schnieder VCR .929, .937, .927 (.931 avg) 2. lundquist NYR .923, .930, .926 (.926) 3. Rask BOS .918, .929, .929 ( .925) 4. Vokoun FLD, WSH,PIT .922, .917, .919 (.920) 5. Niemi SJS .920, .915, 924 (.919) 6. Dubnyk EDM .916, .914, .920 (.917) 6. Lehtonen DAL .914, .922, .916 (.917) 8. Miller BUF .916, .916, .915 (.916)

all the rest of the starters were below average one year.

My guess is the goalie that faced the 2nd most shots per game in that 3 yr period stands a chance of improving his save % with better defence and reduced shot count.

BS-IT:

I prefer facts not views based on BS IT

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#52 Ducey
September 30 2013, 09:06AM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

You know who would have been a quick and cheap fill-in at centre, in addition to probably becoming the Oilers' top centre prospect?

6' 5", 23 year old 1st rounder, Joe Colborne.

Do you know what Calgary had to pay to get him? A 4th round pick.

Edmonton should have been on that kind of deal like a trucker on a donut.

Colborne is not a good fit for Edmonton. He needs to play top 6 minutes. But in that role he has not produced as well as Arcobello.

He is big but plays on the perimeter (ie soft). He doesn't PK and isn't noted for defense.

His eventual role (once Nuge and Gagner come back) would be as a 4th line C and he doesn't do that well. Thats why TOR got rid of him.

You can bet Eakins didn't go to bat for him either.

He is a better fit for Calgary as they don't really have a 2nd line center (assuming Monohan will be the first line C).

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#53 Batfink
September 30 2013, 09:16AM
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Ducey wrote:

Colborne is not a good fit for Edmonton. He needs to play top 6 minutes. But in that role he has not produced as well as Arcobello.

He is big but plays on the perimeter (ie soft). He doesn't PK and isn't noted for defense.

His eventual role (once Nuge and Gagner come back) would be as a 4th line C and he doesn't do that well. Thats why TOR got rid of him.

You can bet Eakins didn't go to bat for him either.

He is a better fit for Calgary as they don't really have a 2nd line center (assuming Monohan will be the first line C).

Lol, yeah, the same Calgary who's GM said they wouldn't rebuild and wouldn't, how did he put it, "wander the desert." They are screwed. They let aging stars go for nothing, and now every GM in the NHL knows they only have a few assets to move. They WILL be rebuilding via draft, whether they like it or not!

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#54 Walter Sobchak
September 30 2013, 11:45AM
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Rama Lama wrote:

For all those who are going crazy thinking about all the tough guys we now have.......relax take a chill pill.

I for one think teams that clearly have a thing for running our young guys, will think twice. I remember a game in Calgary that I attended where Glencross was continously running RNH with no Oiler response........in fact all the players were skating away as if they had not noticed what was going on.

Let's see them try that now? As for all the extra heavyweights, I suspect Mac T will pick the best of them and waiver the rest.

Really, I remember that game and many like it, so tell me what’s going to stop Glencross?

Why didn’t Hordichuck get on the ice and get his pound of flesh then? There is a reason the Oilers never responded.

Why didn’t Eager or Peckham, go after Glencross?

Because Glencross wasn’t on the ice when these plugs are on the ice, Glencross plays on the top two lines are you going to put Mac out there against the other team’s top two lines…….NO, there is no opportunity to put a tough guy out against those players, you have to have like players to combat that.

The Oilers need tough players who can play in the top 6, not just the bottom 6. Ryane Clowe was a wasted opportunity for the Oilers.

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#55 Reg Dunlop
September 30 2013, 12:35PM
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@Walter Sobchak

We can't put a thug out against the opposition's top 2 lines? Is that against the rules? You are missing the point. Mac or Brown or Gazdic need to do to Sedins or Thorton or Getzlaf exactly what Weiss tries to do to Hall. Then let the Ducks or Canucks respond by playing their enforcers so our top lines can skate circles around them. Time to be proactive and make the opposition react. What's the worst that can happen? We give up a good scoring chance? That's why we have a goalie.

Red ice, go oil.

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#56 Walter Sobchak
September 30 2013, 02:28PM
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Reg Dunlop wrote:

We can't put a thug out against the opposition's top 2 lines? Is that against the rules? You are missing the point. Mac or Brown or Gazdic need to do to Sedins or Thorton or Getzlaf exactly what Weiss tries to do to Hall. Then let the Ducks or Canucks respond by playing their enforcers so our top lines can skate circles around them. Time to be proactive and make the opposition react. What's the worst that can happen? We give up a good scoring chance? That's why we have a goalie.

Red ice, go oil.

When was the last time you actually witnessed this?

maybe, maybe, preseason and that's about it.

The problem with Mac was teams were playing there best against him, same with Hordichuck.

As soon as those players come on the ice the other teams changes to catch them.

To combate a team taking liberties, score on the PP, the only way to truely stop the other team from running you.

That, or get players who can play in the top 6 and can fight.

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#57 Dan 1919
September 30 2013, 07:44PM
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For everyone saying the Oilers need top six tough guys, please stop it already. This isn't NHL 13, you can't just trade up until you get them.

SPOILER ALERT, EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE NHL NEEDS/WANTS A TOP 6 TOUGH GUY. They are hard to get, so get over it!

That is why we are seeing an alternative right now.

MacT went after both Clarkson and Clowe. They did not want to come here, so what can you do about it, pout? No, you find another way, exactly what MacT did, he found a different way, maybe not the easy way you can do it on NHL 13, but he did something instead of nothing.

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#58 The Oilers Shot Clock
September 30 2013, 08:22AM
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@Spydyr

And rare.

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#59 Lochenzo
September 30 2013, 10:00AM
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I liked Larsen too. But if you look at the right side of the blue line, you have Petry, J Schultz, Belov, Potter and Larsen. Petry and Schultz are locks. Belov was on a two-way deal, but I like him more than Larsen at this point, so you keep Belov. Potter's body of work as a third pairing D is actually decent and you can't waive Potter because he's hurt. Odd man out is Larsen. Now, I'm hoping that they waived Larsen to open up a spot on the 23-man roster for a centre.

As for Gadzic, well, let's just say that you and I can argue about the value of an enforcer. But as long as another team believes in having an enforcer to met out "justice," you'd better have an enforcer too. See John Scott chasing Kessel? That was a dangerous play where Devane drove Tropp's head into the ice. Pretty obvious that the Sabre bench was incensed by the incident. Scott was on the ice for the next shift. I think Carlyle could have been better prepared and now Clarkson is suspended 10 games.

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