HEMSKY, MACT TALK AND ROOKIE CAMP OPENS

Jason Gregor
September 04 2013 11:22AM

Oilers training camp officially started today with rookie medicals, however, unlike previous years there isn't as much excitement surrounding the rookies. Oscar Klefbom is the only rookie with a shot at cracking the Oilers lineup, and while he is a first rounder, and could be a huge part of the Oilers future, there isn't the same excitement amongst Oilers fans compared to when Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Nail Yakupov and Justin Schultz made their camp debuts.

Klefbom shouldn't take that as a knock on his ability, he's just experiencing what 3rd, 4th and 5th children in a family experience; your parents love you just as much, they just don't go crazy taking pictures of your every move and fawning all over you.

The excitement of another top-prospect still matters, of course, but the feeling in Oilersnation is much different this September than in previous years.

I suspect the excitement surrounding Klefbom will intensify when he comes to main camp next week. There is no need to rush him, but the Oilers blueline isn't filled with proven top-end talent, so he does have a shot, albeit minimal, to make the opening-night roster.

The rookies will fly to Penticton after medicals and get ready to face the rookies of the Jets, Canucks and Flames over the next four days.

In case you missed it, here is the rookie roster, draft picks are in bold.

Forwards:

Defense:

Goalies:

HEMSKY TALKS...

Ales Hemsky and Craig MacTavish stood side-by-side and spoke with the media this morning, and said what most of us expected. MacTavish stated, "In this game you need to have energy to play well, and I think the frustration of losing has a negative effect of zapping that energy level that you need to have success in the NHL. We went about the prospect of potentially moving Ales and Horc (Shawn Horcoff), and I really found out, at the end of the day, that I had a great appreciation of him and his skill set than most people that I talked to. I've seen him at his best and that's why I have a great appreciation of what he does. The bottom line for me, if this team turns around, and I know there is a lot of work to be done before that happens, Ales will have a very prominent role in that turn around.

Hemsky shared his thoughts on how the situation unfolded.

"Like Mac said there was a lot of frustration for me. I understand the process, not being in the playoffs for seven years is hard for every body and you lose it (desire) a little bit. When I talked to Mac before leaving I told him I'd do whatever they want. It is what is now, and I'm happy to be back and I want to help the team turn things around. I want to try and be a leader and help the young guys and be the best for the team. I know I have to change a lot of things, be better and help the team."

It was interesting to hear Hemsky say he wants to try and be more of a leader. He's never mentioned that before that I can recall, and it shows that maybe he understands he can offer the younger players some things.

I'm in the minority, but I feel Hemsky can still be a major contributor to the team. I've always liked his skill, and his skill hasn't evaporated despite two below average seasons. Hemsky could be the wildcard in the Oilers offence. He's the only forward on the team with two 70+ point seasons, and while no one expects him to lead the Oilers in scoring, he should be highly motivated to show many around the NHL he can still produce.

NEEDED TO BE SAID...

I've noticed over the past few years in Edmonton there seemed to be two sets of rules and expectations; one for the kids and one for the veterans, and I don't think that leads to a healthy environment.

The most encouraging thing I got from the presser was the following statement from MacTavish.

"One of the steps we want to make this year is eliminating young guys and old guys from the dialogue surrounding our team. I think there has been far too much of that. We are in the NHL, there is no age requirement to play here, we are all Edmonton Oilers and it doesn't matter how old you are. It is time for us to be a team, and I think that is going to be a big step. 

"Players, regardless of their age are going to get equal opportunity to see where they fit on our team, how they can help us and how valuable they are going to be to our team. There is a part of development that goes into playing on an NHL team, but I think we are far beyond that. We are looking for performance whether you are a 30-year-old player or a 25-year-old player; you are going to be judged on your performance on the ice."

The Oilers are past the point of giving young players ice time. If they play well and earn it, then they will play, but if they don't, then a guy like Hemsky or another veteran will have an equal opportunity for that ice, and vice versa. I agree with MacTavish that the Oilers are past the point of having to give their young players icetime to develop, they are now entering the phase where the players need to earn their icetime, regardless of age.

According to MacTavish, head coach Dallas Eakins will expand on this when camp opens next week.

I doubt you will see them benching Ryan Nugent-Hopkins or Nail Yakupov consistently, but it is obvious that the battle or argument of "young vs. old" needs to be in the rear view mirror.

PARTING SHOTS....

  • MacTavish had some other solid quotes from today.
     
  •  "It is important I offer Ales the same opportunity I offer every play who walks through our door at training camp, and that is to come in and compete on a level playing field. It is up to Ales, as it is for Taylor Hall or Denis Grebeshkov and all the players to establish their value to the team. The great thing about training camp is that it is a very optimistic time for 30 teams around the NHL. It is important to me that when you walk through that door at training camp, you walk through with a fresh canvas and you have an opportunity to impress upon the coach how valuable you and your contribution can be to the success of the team." MacTavish.
     
  • "When the team has had success Ales has always been a huge participant in that success. We think that we are going to have success this year. At this point we don't have a contingency plan and how to deal with it, thankfully, but we feel we have the opportunity to turn the corner. I know how good a player he is, and I feel that at the end of the year we could be in a situation where we are doing another contract with Hemsky, but that will be determined over time." Mactavish
     
  • One of the other comments that caught my attention was when MacTavish was asked if he would be less forthcoming and open about his plans in the future. I loved his response. Too often people are scared to publicly state their goals, for fear of not achieving them, but it sounds like MacTavish will not veer away from being open, honest and truthful about his team's situation or his plans to try and improve his club.

    "There is no hidden agenda here. The way I've always dealt with the media is to be as honest as I can. Those were our objectives going in, and I think the media and our fans deserve an explanation of what the manager is thinking going forward. That is why I'm up here today to tell you what I'm thinking now," said MacTavish.

    It takes courage in life to tell people your goals and objectives, because it can expose you to criticism, and i'd say it is even more difficult to do in pro sports where every move a GM makes will be scrutinized.
     
  • You can listen and watch the entire presser here.
     
  • I asked MacTavish if he's looking at bringing in a veteran or two on a PTO. He said he is, but admitted he doesn't expect many players to accept one due to the risk of an injury. He was clear that if he does bring in a veteran it will be a forward, because he feels the Oilers lack depth at the forward position.
     
  • Don't expect Brad Boyes to come to camp. He is more of the same of what they have. Skill with little grit or a strong defensive pedigree.
     
  • Edmontonian Mike Priestner has purchased the Saskatoon Blades of the WHL, pending governor approval. It likely will likely be finalized today or later this week. VP of Communications for the Oilers, Steve Hogle, will be leaving his post with the Oilers to become the new President of the Blades. Good luck to both of you.

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#1 Spydyr
September 04 2013, 11:23AM
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Will Mac-T still trade Ales fist chance he gets?

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#2 Jay Gray
September 04 2013, 11:36AM
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Absolutely everyone is saying the right things off the ice at this point, I only hope it translates into doing the right things on the ice.

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#3 916oiler
September 04 2013, 11:37AM
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I'm iffy about Grebeshkov. However, I hope Klefbom starts the year in OKC and earns a job the second third or second half of the season with the Oilers!

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Man, I have some serious man-love for MacT!

If he can accomplish even some of what he's trying, this team is going to be infinitely better than it was during the dark ages (read: Tambellini years).

Build a proper foundation, Mac!

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#5 Will
September 04 2013, 11:48AM
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Meh, it's not as bad as the Luongo situation that's for sure. Unless Hemsky is a big reason we make the playoffs, I just can't see him back next year. Maybe because he's in a contract year he'll show up to work.

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#6 Ducey
September 04 2013, 11:48AM
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I like Ales but he is not a great fit for the third line.

This team still has some roster construction issues in the bottom 6.

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#7 mikeengel
September 04 2013, 11:51AM
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Has anyone thought about trying Hemsky at center? His skills at puck handling seem to suggest it might be worth a try.

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#8 David S
September 04 2013, 11:58AM
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Oh man. With this new "on-ice accountability" mantra, Ryan Jones is SCREWED.

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#9 Lochenzo
September 04 2013, 12:00PM
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I have a lot of sympathy for Ales. As a fan, I watched this team go from the ultimate high in 2006, SCF game 7, to the ultimate low of missing the playoffs and going through another rebuild. That's tough emotionally for a fan. Imagine how tough it is for the players.

Ales is playing for his next contract. No reason for him not to bring it this year.

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#10 Lochenzo
September 04 2013, 12:06PM
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A couple of the forwards got me excited. But it's the D group that makes me want to watch the rookie game. As a group, they have a bit of everything. Size, nasty, puck mobility, shut down capability. Pie in the sky says that's our starting 6 in Edmonton in a few years.

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#11 Ivan Drago
September 04 2013, 12:17PM
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Never been a big Hemsky fan. I'm hoping he has a big season. He's playing for a contract now, I hope he gets one from MacT, and then is promptly traded to help fill a hole.

He has done ZERO extra work to improve his game throughout his career. Gotten by on his god given talent alone. Not a veteran leader I want on this team.

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#12 Serious Gord
September 04 2013, 12:17PM
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Depressing to read MACt's doubling down on hemsky.

Tambellini should have traded him rather than sign him for too much, now mact couldn't or wouldn't move him or get katz to buy him out.

MacT has already tied Gagner to the recovery mast, now he's lashing Hemsky to the same pole and by doing so greatly reduces his options to get the balance adjustments this team STILL needs. He's a stubborn SOB that's for sure.

So as trade deadline approaches and the Team looks to be barely in or out of the playoffs and the lack of physicality on the first lines is laid bare, does MacT eat crow and cut these two from the mast and get the team into balance, or does he stubbornly stay at the tiller and ride the whole mess onto the rocks?

The only hopeful sign in this regard is that MacT had no problem sticking the shiv between krueger's shoulder blades just days after he affirmed that RK was THE head coach for this coming season. (and the edmonton media gave him a complete pass on it)

Perhaps he can be as cold-blooded and two-faced when the time comes this winter...

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#13 oilerjed
September 04 2013, 12:17PM
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Damn Hemmer is frustrating, If he pulls a defensive side to his game out of his A*&, then he could be really usefull. He has speed, hand eye coordination and strong hockey sense. What he doesnt have is an inner drive to be a strong defensive player. Who knows maybe knowing that he was virtually untradable will resonate in his head. Lots of players have made themselves after the mid point of their careers, here to hoping Hemsky can too.

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#14 DrDave
September 04 2013, 12:18PM
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I hope Hemsky has a bounce back year and if he does unfortunately we will lose him next year for nothing because we won't be able to afford to resign him with RNH and JShultz coming due for extensions. He has always been a favourite of mine and his skill is unreal! I can only imagine what his career would've been if he hadn't been stuck playing with Patrick O'Sullivan and Toby Pedersen all those years...

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#15 Spydyr
September 04 2013, 12:34PM
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So, Mac-T publicly states Hemsky won't be back.Now they are all lets work together.Talk about spin.

Mac-T could not trade him and that overpriced salary. Hope Mac-T has learned a lesson. Don't tell all of hockey what you plan to do with your players. Guess he did not learn that getting his Masters.

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#16 Spydyr
September 04 2013, 12:35PM
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Jay Gray wrote:

Absolutely everyone is saying the right things off the ice at this point, I only hope it translates into doing the right things on the ice.

What does talk have to do with winning hockey games?

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#17 WhattaMike
September 04 2013, 12:44PM
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I am one who is happy that Hemsky is here to start the season and this is because of the following:

1. The likely player or assets' return in a trade for him this summer and/or now is not what MacT nor most knowledgeable fans would have accepted to have gotten back. In other words, if he plays very well and stays healthy he will be valuable trade bait later on (even by the deadline date in March).

2. Gordon as his 3rd line centre will back him up decently to very well. Hemsky still has speed, skill, scoring prowess to make that line successful, while Gordon can skate very good as well...and with Hemsky....he can up his scoring totals easily. This is a definite positive, especially if and when they find a very decent to good left winger which means that Jones or Smyth must be playing very well or another player like Joensuu does. Joensuu - Gordon - Hemsky could be an effective line and this relates to having good puck possession when out there.

3. Hemsky may be on the third line but he will get 2nd PP minutes to pad his time and point totals, if he plays like he should. The bonus is that Hemsky can move all the way up to the 1st line as well if necessary and this does not hurt the team one iota....unless he plays like.... CRAP...

4. The over-all positive is that Eakins will be the coach and with his tech systems that he wants to implement, Hemsky and every other player out there will be doing what they are told to or else sit on the bench... This is a totally important tool for the coach to have/to use cause it works and the other coaches prior (Renney, Quinn, and Krueger) never did this and the team and fans suffered with losses all the time.

Finally its sept 4th and now...Bring On the Training Camps.... To the Rookies....Go play well in Penticton!!!! I know I will be watching and/or listening closely as ususl every start of the year...and then some....lol...til next summer...like many other fans will.

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#18 Quicksilver ballet
September 04 2013, 12:45PM
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I'm a little enthused about the impact Dallas Eakins could have on Hemsky. Will it be water and Oil, or gun powder and brass. Here's to hoping it's the later. Eberle has openly admitted he'd be willing to move to the middle if it'll help. It could be the tweak the Oilers have been looking for. What do the Oilers have to lose, letting him spend some time in the middle till Hopkins is 100% again.

Welcome back hockey season.

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#19 OilClog
September 04 2013, 12:47PM
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MacT never said Hemsky wouldn't be back.. Just said he was looking to move him, didnt turn out! Thankfully! Team Hemmer!

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#20 ubermiguel
September 04 2013, 12:50PM
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Spydyr wrote:

So, Mac-T publicly states Hemsky won't be back.Now they are all lets work together.Talk about spin.

Mac-T could not trade him and that overpriced salary. Hope Mac-T has learned a lesson. Don't tell all of hockey what you plan to do with your players. Guess he did not learn that getting his Masters.

MacT was open in the spring about shopping Hemsky and Horcoff but also said "Would we welcome those players back if the right circumstance doesn't present itself, absolutely."

https://twitter.com/JonathanWillis/status/342721271496327168

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#21 Spydyr
September 04 2013, 01:08PM
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ubermiguel wrote:

MacT was open in the spring about shopping Hemsky and Horcoff but also said "Would we welcome those players back if the right circumstance doesn't present itself, absolutely."

https://twitter.com/JonathanWillis/status/342721271496327168

Now to finish the interview quote you have started:

“Would we welcome those players back if the right circumstance presented itself? Absolutely,” added MacTavish. “But I think in talking to both those players, I think the best situation would be to move on.”

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#22 Oiler Al
September 04 2013, 01:09PM
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Clever presser on MacT.s part. Had to do something after he openly stated that Hemsky was on the trading block earlier this year.

It also gives Hemsky a chance to comeback in and continue to be a veteran player.Not so sure about the leader part... but will see.. it is his contract year.

All bets are off, on that third line duty.. could be on the first line as well.

Its to the teams advantage to expose and showcase a success story with Hemsky.. will come in handy at trade deadline day.

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#23 Rama Lama
September 04 2013, 01:30PM
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It is so refreshing to listen to Mac T over Mr. Dithers............MacT make you feel as a fan, a part of the organization.

He is correct when he says that it take courage to put your plan out there. I'm behind his management all the way, hopefully he can keep Lowe in the background, where he belongs.

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#24 Alan Stanley
September 04 2013, 01:36PM
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Well if Hemsky wants to help the team lets start by not going offside every shift!!!!

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#25 oilerjed
September 04 2013, 01:50PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

I'm a little enthused about the impact Dallas Eakins could have on Hemsky. Will it be water and Oil, or gun powder and brass. Here's to hoping it's the later. Eberle has openly admitted he'd be willing to move to the middle if it'll help. It could be the tweak the Oilers have been looking for. What do the Oilers have to lose, letting him spend some time in the middle till Hopkins is 100% again.

Welcome back hockey season.

You do know that you said something positive about the oilers right!!?? You feeling ok?

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#26 Craig1981
September 04 2013, 02:06PM
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916oiler wrote:

I'm iffy about Grebeshkov. However, I hope Klefbom starts the year in OKC and earns a job the second third or second half of the season with the Oilers!

I became less iffy on Grebeshkov when I recalled we got a 2nd rounder for him at the trade deadline last time. If he gives the guys more development time and we get another pick equal to what we got last time it would be a win.

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#27 justDOit
September 04 2013, 02:19PM
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Some very nice pics of Martha Stewart there.

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#28 Quicksilver ballet
September 04 2013, 02:35PM
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You do know that you said something positive about the oilers right!!?? You feeling ok?

Pseudo QB, OJ?

Someone must've hacked my account. No way that could have been me. I agree with what Serious Gord mentioned.

Someone's obviously having a Glass case of emotion moment. Not me, sorry, won't happen again.

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#29 Micbilly99
September 04 2013, 02:39PM
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While the Oilers really had no choice but to come out with this Press Conference today regarding Hemsky, I think everyone within the organization has to realize that a mistakes we made with this player. Hemsky should never have been re-signed to a two year deal, he should never have been given that much money and MacTavish never should have come out saying Hemsky should move on. By giving him the two year deal, Mactavish stuck the Oilers with an unmovable contract,the dollar amount just compounded the problem. As for stating your plans in advance, I strongly believe that MacTavish made an error here. Having a plan is great and the Oilers very much need one, but you don't have to share it with the world. Work your own plan and keep you competitors guessing as to what you are doing.

As for Hemsky's potential, that's a non-issue. At 30 years of age, what you see is what you get. 15 goals and 40 assists is the top end of what you are going to get. Nothing more, Oiler fans can't expect anything more because he has 'rarely' produced anymore.

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#30 wheelerjets
September 04 2013, 02:40PM
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Weren't all OilersNation commentators saying how Hemsky had "requested a trade" and "wanted out" the past summer? It sounds to me like he wants to do what it takes to stay. Hopefully he has a good year with no injuries.

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#31 madjam
September 04 2013, 02:43PM
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Does Hemsky really relish still being here and MacT. really still want him here ? Smyth seems generatioanaly challenged on our club . Why either is being tetained seems questionable .

Notice Russian draftees absent from this camp .

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#32 vetinari
September 04 2013, 02:45PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Pseudo QB, OJ?

Someone must've hacked my account. No way that could have been me. I agree with what Serious Gord mentioned.

Someone's obviously having a Glass case of emotion moment. Not me, sorry, won't happen again.

It's okay bud... the leaves change colours, the kids are back in school and optimistic thoughts of a successful hockey team fills every fan's head... it happens... the good news is that we are tied for first place in our division and 0 points out of a playoff spot... enjoy it...

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#33 mayorblaine
September 04 2013, 02:52PM
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MacT said and did what he needed to do/say, which is infinitely better than the old method. burning bridges of those who build them is never wise, nor productive.

upward and onward...

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#34 vetinari
September 04 2013, 03:02PM
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Micbilly99 wrote:

While the Oilers really had no choice but to come out with this Press Conference today regarding Hemsky, I think everyone within the organization has to realize that a mistakes we made with this player. Hemsky should never have been re-signed to a two year deal, he should never have been given that much money and MacTavish never should have come out saying Hemsky should move on. By giving him the two year deal, Mactavish stuck the Oilers with an unmovable contract,the dollar amount just compounded the problem. As for stating your plans in advance, I strongly believe that MacTavish made an error here. Having a plan is great and the Oilers very much need one, but you don't have to share it with the world. Work your own plan and keep you competitors guessing as to what you are doing.

As for Hemsky's potential, that's a non-issue. At 30 years of age, what you see is what you get. 15 goals and 40 assists is the top end of what you are going to get. Nothing more, Oiler fans can't expect anything more because he has 'rarely' produced anymore.

Not to nitpick or anything but Hemsky was extended for 2 years on February 24, 2012-- by Tambellini-- and MacT didn't become GM until April 15, 2013.

As for MacT going public with the potential for a trade, it would have got out eventually. You can't call up 29 other teams about a specific player on your roster and not expect it to get out somehow. MacT dealt with the potential of a trade upfront and now he is dealing with the fallout from that position in a forthright manner as well. I would rather have the moves or potential moves out in the open than doing things the Tambellini way.

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#35 OilClog
September 04 2013, 03:18PM
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Excited to play LA.. I'd make sure Brown is dressed for the game. When Robyn goes to take some liberties, hopefully this Oiler team can help Ales out with that.

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#36 OilClog
September 04 2013, 03:21PM
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wheelerjets wrote:

Weren't all OilersNation commentators saying how Hemsky had "requested a trade" and "wanted out" the past summer? It sounds to me like he wants to do what it takes to stay. Hopefully he has a good year with no injuries.

You're confusing the MSM with the Oiler fans.. Most Fans love Hemsky, Most MSM is trying to run him out of town..

Staples needs to be relocated to a different city, guy is a complete joke.

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#37 goog
September 04 2013, 03:32PM
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I think a third line of jones, hemsky, and a capable center could be a handful for the competition. Speed, finesse and hopefully a little grit in the middle and id be happier than yakupov knee slidding his way to dubey.

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#38 Ivan Drago
September 04 2013, 03:38PM
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I don't get the undying love for Hemsky. He's a very skilled player, but it's time for him to move on. He knows it, MacT knows it, this presser was window dressing. When his contract is done, anyone see him singing for 2.5 per? That's what a decent third liner makes. I agree he is better than that, but we're stacked at top 6 wings. So let's hope he has a good season, signs an extension at somewhere around 3.75-4, then trade him or package him for a missing piece. It's called using assets wisely, not letting nostalgia handcuff you.

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#39 OilClog
September 04 2013, 03:48PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

I don't get the undying love for Hemsky. He's a very skilled player, but it's time for him to move on. He knows it, MacT knows it, this presser was window dressing. When his contract is done, anyone see him singing for 2.5 per? That's what a decent third liner makes. I agree he is better than that, but we're stacked at top 6 wings. So let's hope he has a good season, signs an extension at somewhere around 3.75-4, then trade him or package him for a missing piece. It's called using assets wisely, not letting nostalgia handcuff you.

No player in a Hemsky trade will bring back an equal return, so IMO trading Hemsky is a handcuff as the Oilers would then be eliminating Talent from their roster and replacing it with meat.

How do you know Hemsky is going to be 3rd line? are you named Dallas Eakins?

Good Grief

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#40 Ivan Drago
September 04 2013, 04:05PM
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OilClog wrote:

No player in a Hemsky trade will bring back an equal return, so IMO trading Hemsky is a handcuff as the Oilers would then be eliminating Talent from their roster and replacing it with meat.

How do you know Hemsky is going to be 3rd line? are you named Dallas Eakins?

Good Grief

Notice I said package him. With a prospect or a pick. Do you have him in your top 6? If he has a good season and signs a decent contract, he may have some value. Considering MacT couldn't trade him all summer, this is the best we can hope for. Or do you think we should just sign him now to a 5yr 25 mill contract? That's great value and asset management. Not.

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#41 tileguy
September 04 2013, 04:13PM
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Micbilly99 wrote:

While the Oilers really had no choice but to come out with this Press Conference today regarding Hemsky, I think everyone within the organization has to realize that a mistakes we made with this player. Hemsky should never have been re-signed to a two year deal, he should never have been given that much money and MacTavish never should have come out saying Hemsky should move on. By giving him the two year deal, Mactavish stuck the Oilers with an unmovable contract,the dollar amount just compounded the problem. As for stating your plans in advance, I strongly believe that MacTavish made an error here. Having a plan is great and the Oilers very much need one, but you don't have to share it with the world. Work your own plan and keep you competitors guessing as to what you are doing.

As for Hemsky's potential, that's a non-issue. At 30 years of age, what you see is what you get. 15 goals and 40 assists is the top end of what you are going to get. Nothing more, Oiler fans can't expect anything more because he has 'rarely' produced anymore.

55 pts as a 3rd liner, SOLD!!!

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#42 Jeremy Lega
September 04 2013, 04:19PM
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So, Mac-T publicly states Hemsky won't be back.Now they are all lets work together.Talk about spin.

Mac-T could not trade him and that overpriced salary. Hope Mac-T has learned a lesson. Don't tell all of hockey what you plan to do with your players. Guess he did not learn that getting his Masters.

I disagree. I like that he speaks honestly about his intentions. I understand why people don't , because if they can't live up to them they will be criticized. Everyone knows this including Mac T. Every GM in the league tried and failed to make some move or another this summer. The difference between them and Mac T is they get to hide behind a veil of secrecy.you see this kind of politics in the office or work place all the time. MacT doesn't want to hide, and isn't afraid to be criticized. I hope he never changes. It's a breath of fresh air.

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#43 Geoff
September 04 2013, 04:21PM
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The great thing about ales is that on a younger team he is a scoring veteran so I think he fits in and I hope he stays! His jersey is still one of my favs!

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#44 Czar
September 04 2013, 04:30PM
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Oiler rookies will lead the tournament in PIM.We might not win a game but we'll win most of the fights.

Edmonton fans will walk away in love with Kale Kessy and everyone else will hate the SOB.

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#45 pkam
September 04 2013, 04:32PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

I don't get the undying love for Hemsky. He's a very skilled player, but it's time for him to move on. He knows it, MacT knows it, this presser was window dressing. When his contract is done, anyone see him singing for 2.5 per? That's what a decent third liner makes. I agree he is better than that, but we're stacked at top 6 wings. So let's hope he has a good season, signs an extension at somewhere around 3.75-4, then trade him or package him for a missing piece. It's called using assets wisely, not letting nostalgia handcuff you.

Decent 3 liners only make 2.5 per?

Have you ever heard of Jordan Staal? Remember how much one of the best GM Shero offered to sign him to center their 3rd line?

Have you ever heard of Dave Bolland? An above average 3rd line center, 3.4M.

Oilers just sign Boyd Gordon @3m believed to center our 3rd line because he used to be a 4th liner before we sign him. Is he a decent 3rd liner? We'll find out later.

The bottom line is you don't get decent 3rd liners for 2.5M per.

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#46 pkam
September 04 2013, 04:37PM
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Czar wrote:

Oiler rookies will lead the tournament in PIM.We might not win a game but we'll win most of the fights.

Edmonton fans will walk away in love with Kale Kessy and everyone else will hate the SOB.

I haven't watched him play but noticed he put up a lot of points in the WHL playoff.

I heard his foot speed is his biggest weakness. We pay a high price for him, hope he lives up to the expectation.

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#47 Spydyr
September 04 2013, 04:50PM
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Jeremy Lega wrote:

I disagree. I like that he speaks honestly about his intentions. I understand why people don't , because if they can't live up to them they will be criticized. Everyone knows this including Mac T. Every GM in the league tried and failed to make some move or another this summer. The difference between them and Mac T is they get to hide behind a veil of secrecy.you see this kind of politics in the office or work place all the time. MacT doesn't want to hide, and isn't afraid to be criticized. I hope he never changes. It's a breath of fresh air.

I agree that he speaks well and is way more open then Tambo.

The thing is sometimes you have to play things close to the vest.You don't want to appear to be dealing from a place of weakness.

Next time you go to buy a car tell the salesman how much you love it and you just have to have it.

It is never a good idea to show your hand in business.

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#48 EHH Team
September 04 2013, 04:52PM
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OilClog wrote:

You're confusing the MSM with the Oiler fans.. Most Fans love Hemsky, Most MSM is trying to run him out of town..

Staples needs to be relocated to a different city, guy is a complete joke.

How do you connect Staples to this?

Staples in my opinion is one of the best analysts/commentators working for the Journal, whether he's writing on municipal issues or on the Oilers.

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#49 pkam
September 04 2013, 04:55PM
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Micbilly99 wrote:

While the Oilers really had no choice but to come out with this Press Conference today regarding Hemsky, I think everyone within the organization has to realize that a mistakes we made with this player. Hemsky should never have been re-signed to a two year deal, he should never have been given that much money and MacTavish never should have come out saying Hemsky should move on. By giving him the two year deal, Mactavish stuck the Oilers with an unmovable contract,the dollar amount just compounded the problem. As for stating your plans in advance, I strongly believe that MacTavish made an error here. Having a plan is great and the Oilers very much need one, but you don't have to share it with the world. Work your own plan and keep you competitors guessing as to what you are doing.

As for Hemsky's potential, that's a non-issue. At 30 years of age, what you see is what you get. 15 goals and 40 assists is the top end of what you are going to get. Nothing more, Oiler fans can't expect anything more because he has 'rarely' produced anymore.

15 goals and 40 assists is the top end of Hemsky?

05-06 19G 58A 77 pts in 81 games 06-07 13G 40A 53 pts in 64 games 07-08 20G 51A 71 pts in 74 games 08-09 23G 43A 66 pts in 72 games 09-10 (shoulder surgery) 7G 15A 22 pts in 22 games 10-11 (another shoulder surgery) 14G 28A 42 pts in 47 games 11-12 10G 26A 36 pts in 69 games 12-13 9G 11A 20 pts in 38 games

He has been a 70 pts player when he was healthy before his shoulder surgeries. Last 2 years were his only bad years.

11-12, he came back from 2 consecutive shoulder surgeries and was not ready when the season started but was great near the end of the season.

Last year he play the last 10 games with a broken foot from blocking shot.

He was bordered by his health the last 3 season yet he manage to produce more than o.5 ppg and this is only a 3rd liner?

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#50 Wäx Män Riley
September 04 2013, 04:57PM
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Spydyr wrote:

I agree that he speaks well and is way more open then Tambo.

The thing is sometimes you have to play things close to the vest.You don't want to appear to be dealing from a place of weakness.

Next time you go to buy a car tell the salesman how much you love it and you just have to have it.

It is never a good idea to show your hand in business.

I'll tell a car salesman that all day long. Big deal.

The key to a successful negotiation is indifference to the outcome. I'll tell every dealer I love it and want it, but have no problem walking away.

MacT was open and up front, but I'm sure he has no problem keeping Hemsky. He is a very good veteran player.

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