CAMP PRIMER: THE WAY I SEE IT

Robin Brownlee
September 09 2013 08:06PM

Aside from when, exactly, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins will be ready to return to action from shoulder surgery, there isn’t a whole of intrigue to contemplate going into 2013 edition of training camp for the Edmonton Oilers, is there?

Really, aside from the exact date RNH is ready to roll, be it in the pre-season or once the Oilers start playing for points, Edmonton's roster looks pretty set from where I sit, give or take a few spots on the line-up card of new coach Dallas Eakins.

For me, the questions aren't so much about who the pieces will be on the 2013-14 edition of the Oilers, but how Eakins will put those pieces together in the form of forward lines, defense pairings and special teams.

We'll see about that through the pre-season schedule, of course, but as far as the roster goes, I think I can pretty much pick it right now – and so can you. Please tell me if I'm wrong. I'm sure you will.

HOW IT LOOKS TO ME

Assuming Eakins chooses to open with 13 forwards, I see 11 of those spots already filled by Nugent-Hopkins, Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov, Sam Gagner, Ales Hemsky, Ryan Jones, David Perron, Ryan Smyth, Boyd Gordon and Mike Brown.

The last two spots will be contested by Ben Eager, Will Acton, who has a bit of an inside track because he's familiar to Eakins and associate coach Keith Acton, his father, Anton Lander and Jesse Joensuu. There's another spot there to start the season, of course, if RNH isn’t ready to go.

If Eakins goes with eight defensemen, I expect the first six – stop the presses – to be Andrew Ference, Ladislav Smid, Justin Schultz, Jeff Petry, Nick Schultz and reclamation project Denis Grebeshkov. Oscar Klefbom, given his SEL experience, is the best bet to grab the seventh spot and could push for a spot in the third pairing, platooning with Grebeshkov.

Beyond Klefbom, I think it's a stretch to expect Anton Belov, who'll miss the start of camp because of visa problems, or Taylor Fedun to push for a roster spot for opening night Oct. 1. Corey Potter is the most likely insurance policy, and the most experienced, outside the top six.

Goal? There is nobody in camp capable of pushing Devan Dubnyk and Jason LaBarbera for the starting and cheerleading (aside from 15-17 games) spots.

FROM THE INSIDE (OR NOT)

For what it's worth, the Oilers website staff has the following depth chart posted (with a caveat at the top the chart is unofficial) as of right now. By position and in order, it reads as follows:

  • LW – Hall, Perron, Jones, Smyth.
  • C – RNH, Gagner, Gordon, Lander.
  • RW – Eberle, Yakupov, Hemsky, Brown.
  • LD – Smid, Ference, N. Schultz, Belov.
  • RD – Petry, J. Schultz, Potter, Philip Larsen, Grebeshkov.
  • G – Dubnyk, LaBarbera.

A FEW QUESTIONS

Jason Gregor posed seven questions in an item he posted earlier today. I have a few of my own, although they're a bit more frivolous than his.

  • 1. On what date will Eakins expose Wanye to untold ridicule for his story that Gagner will be named the next captain by announcing that Ference will wear the C this season?
  • 2. Will Yakupov begin this season on the same torrid pace he ended his rookie campaign? More important, which team will be the first to piss and moan about one of this 25 goal celebrations this season?
  • 3. How many minutes into his first game will Grebeshkov have a monumental brain fart in his own end that has fans recalling the reasons the Oilers bid farewell to him in the first place?
  • 4. Ken Hitchcock had his hands full with the talented Perron in St. Louis in terms of getting him to play within the system he wanted. If Hitch couldn’t do it, what makes Eakins think he can?
  • 5. Will Hemsky script an epic SIUTBOHC in a third-line role to start the season or will reporters be scribbling "Hemsky Wants Out" pieces six weeks into the season? Both?
  • 6. How many points for Justin Schultz this season? And, after running out of gas during his rookie campaign, can he play the point on both power play units this season?
  • 7. Playoffs this season? After last season's spasm of optimism, mark me down for a definite "no."

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#1 freelancer
September 09 2013, 08:12PM
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I'm not huge on him myself Robin, but do you see any scenario in which Omark cracks the lineup opening night?

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#2 Robin Brownlee
September 09 2013, 08:16PM
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freelancer wrote:

I'm not huge on him myself Robin, but do you see any scenario in which Omark cracks the lineup opening night?

Sure. If Omark has a good pre-season and Hall is moved to center with RNH out, he's an option with more offensive pop than Jones or Smyth on LW.

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#3 Citizen David
September 09 2013, 08:17PM
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I'm expecting Belov to be very good. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a top four d man by the end of the season.

Hall is a left winger, Gagner is a center, and Yakupov is a right winger. I'm looking forward to seeing if Eakins will understand this. I'm ok with temporary fixes if Nuge is out for a short term for Hall to play center but if Yak is playing left I'll have a meltdown.

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#5 Batfink
September 09 2013, 08:27PM
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@Robin Brownlee

Do you expect the oilers to at least challenge for a play-off spot before dropping off? Where do you place us? Cellar dwellers again?

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#6 D
September 09 2013, 08:29PM
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RB,

What would need to change on the roster for your definite no to morph into a possible maybe or definite yes?

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#7 Jamie B.
September 09 2013, 08:29PM
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Nuge's face in that picture is about how I feel about the roster: eh.

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#8 Citizen David
September 09 2013, 08:30PM
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I'm to young for the Oilers glory days so I grew up loving Smyth and placing most of my hopes in him. The guy was a legend, the player that symbolized the best the Oilers had going for them. Funny thing is people actually seem to forget that he was actually a really good player. A 39 goal season and a 36 goal season. ten 50+point seasons.

I say all this to try to avoid all the hate that's going to come my way when I say last season and the second half of 2011-2012 make me believe he's done. I think he can be a good fourth liner. But if he's taking time away from Omark or he's a boat anchor on Eb's line or Yak's line it's wrong. Great Oiler, but he's past his time.

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#9 Oilers42
September 09 2013, 08:31PM
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Instead of hall playing centre I would get Perron to play centre Hall-Gagner-Yak Omark-Perron-Eberle

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#10 BillHK
September 09 2013, 08:32PM
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I hope that Belov will be a regular in Edm by mid-season.

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#11 Citizen David
September 09 2013, 08:34PM
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Jamie B. wrote:

Nuge's face in that picture is about how I feel about the roster: eh.

All we need is Joensuu and one of the new defencemen ex. Belov to play above expectations and the roster looks pretty good. Of course all we need is an injury to Hall or Nuge to miss a lengthy amount of time and the roster looks bad.

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#12 Jake59
September 09 2013, 08:35PM
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I think Belov plays. He's Mac T's signing and he was very high on him

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#13 Citizen David
September 09 2013, 08:38PM
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Oilers42 wrote:

Instead of hall playing centre I would get Perron to play centre Hall-Gagner-Yak Omark-Perron-Eberle

If Omark's good enough I like those lines. I always liked Omark though. I thought he did more good than bad and was never given actual good situations to flourish. He's a tough little bugger to knock off the puck and very crafty. Remember when he stepped on the puck on the corner and skated it away from two players? Great passes too. If he can commit to better Defense and less turnovers that line would be great.

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#14 JesusJuice
September 09 2013, 08:42PM
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Camp wild card: Philip Larsen. He was a legitimate top 4 option with the Stars in 2012, but regressed last year. If he returns to his rookie year form, he could crack the top 6.

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#15 Racki
September 09 2013, 08:43PM
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I'll predict a return to form for Hemsky. Can't possibly do any worse than last season, and he's got some better talent to play with now, most likely... unless he gets stuck with Jones or Joensuu or something. I assume he'll play with Gordon centering him, at worst, and he might have a more capable guy on the left wing than he had last year when he was struggling.

I'm not really a big fan of his, but I'm all for making the most of what we've got.. so as long as he's in the lineup, I'd love to see him do really well and regain the excitement fans used to have for him.

Very interested to see how Hall does at center, and who he will play with.

Can we find someone to marry Belov before camp starts?

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#16 Citizen David
September 09 2013, 08:48PM
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The most promising thing about the Oilers is Dallas Eakins. The reason that the Red wings stay so good no matter how many times people predict them to die is because Mike Babcock understands that the number one priority in a game is possession. You need to have possession of the puck. It sounds like Eakins is a disciple of this truth and if so this will have great affect on our performance.

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#17 Cody anderson
September 09 2013, 08:50PM
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From Eakins comments about Acton he is actually one of the players I m most excited about in the bottom 6. I think if Eakins likes him that much there is a good chance he works his way onto the 4th line eaither as a replacement for Lander or as a winger.

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#18 Quicksilver ballet
September 09 2013, 08:53PM
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Hope to see the Eberle to the middle experiment happen at some point this season. Probably won't happen till after the hopes of this season have long faded.

Eberle from day 1 in the middle makes more sense than plucking the only dominant left winger this team has from his post. Hard to imagine that left side if Hall moves into the middle.

Oilers will be in great shape this season with their new rookie coach at the helm. If Eakins "guys" come in and perform like career AHL'ers, this could be over sooner rather then later. The fittest 25th place team in recent memory as the infinibuild years take hold.

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#19 michael
September 09 2013, 08:59PM
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I agree that Omark moves up during the preseason with RNH out. For me Robin the Oilers are in a position of strength with Hemsky and with Omark( If he performs well).

I like Omark on the left half boards PP passing to Yakupov on the either the right circle or to Justin Shultz on the right point.

Anton Lander has real opportunity to take a job by the throat if he can step up his game. For me Gordon would be a more effective 4th line guy. If.If. There are so many what ifs still with this team that I hope that we'll have at least half of the what ifs answered by the end of training camp.

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#20 Hauk15
September 09 2013, 09:15PM
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Anyone other than me hate the idea of having Omark back? Omark sucks. I'd give big Jesse Joensuu a roster spot before Omark.

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#21 Hrm
September 09 2013, 09:23PM
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Hauk15 wrote:

Anyone other than me hate the idea of having Omark back? Omark sucks. I'd give big Jesse Joensuu a roster spot before Omark.

You mean Jean-Francius Joensuu?

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#22 Robin Brownlee
September 09 2013, 09:23PM
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Batfink wrote:

Do you expect the oilers to at least challenge for a play-off spot before dropping off? Where do you place us? Cellar dwellers again?

No, I don't see this team as a bottom-feeder or even a lottery team. If all the wildcards -- Eakins, Perron, a return to form by Jones and a better showing by the defense -- fall their way, I can see the Oilers hanging in and finishing 10-11th.

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#23 OilClog
September 09 2013, 09:34PM
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Grebs over Belov? Aside from the Visa issue, not a chance of that happening. Or are we going to completely ignore Belov being the dominate player..

Good Grief

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#24 Craig1981
September 09 2013, 09:40PM
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OilClog wrote:

Grebs over Belov? Aside from the Visa issue, not a chance of that happening. Or are we going to completely ignore Belov being the dominate player..

Good Grief

Exactly how much have you seen Belov play? I'm guessing you have watched him in zero games. What makes you sure enough Belov is the dominate player that you can add a snobby "good grief" at the end. With my knowledge my might have a top 4 dman for a playoff team or an absolute useless scratch.

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#25 OilClog
September 09 2013, 09:40PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

No, I don't see this team as a bottom-feeder or even a lottery team. If all the wildcards -- Eakins, Perron, a return to form by Jones and a better showing by the defense -- fall their way, I can see the Oilers hanging in and finishing 10-11th.

You're just the most darn tootin' optimistic person to ever! covering the Oilers aren't you ;)

I see this team finishing 10-11th if all the wildcards, Eakins, MacT.. Fail to do a damn thing. Like Come on.. Hanging on for 10-11th.. LIKE COME ON MAN! Lets just completely Deny Taylor Hall's emergence, Eb's steady presence.. and everything else that has been taking the right progressive steps forward.. You think this team will do no better, with Whitney no longer patrolling the rear guard in a Captain Hook like way... RIDICULOUS! 10-11th.. Turn in your Oiler badge and go cheer Feaster on.

Good Grief.

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#26 David S
September 09 2013, 09:41PM
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Is it just me or does Dallas Eakins look perpetually pissed off?

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#27 OilClog
September 09 2013, 09:41PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

Exactly how much have you seen Belov play? I'm guessing you have watched him in zero games. What makes you sure enough Belov is the dominate player that you can add a snobby "good grief" at the end. With my knowledge my might have a top 4 dman for a playoff team or an absolute useless scratch.

Actually in person.. Zero.. On youtube.. plenty. Stat sheets in the KHL for last season.. Lots.. All of the gleaming overseas media reports about him being the "Best" in the KHL.. Lets ignore all of this evidence.

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#28 Robin Brownlee
September 09 2013, 09:45PM
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OilClog wrote:

Grebs over Belov? Aside from the Visa issue, not a chance of that happening. Or are we going to completely ignore Belov being the dominate player..

Good Grief

Contrary to the inside information you must have, there is a chance of Grebeshkov starting the season ahead of Belov because MacTavish wanted him back (even though I don't see the attraction). If Grebeshkov struggles to regain NHL form (and I think he might) then Belov could be in the mix before the end of October.

And skip the "Good Grief" bit at anything you direct at me.

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#29 OilClog
September 09 2013, 09:45PM
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David S wrote:

Is it just me or does Dallas Eakins look perpetually pissed off?

I think this is great, look at what Chicago is sporting for goodness sakes.. Pissed off Coach wins the day, about time a coach has some piss in his step around here.

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#30 Quicksilver ballet
September 09 2013, 09:46PM
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@OilClog

Well, there goes any chance of you winning the highly sought after the 11 x 14 autographed Rueben Bronte framed photo.....

Was it worth it bud......and trashing his comment, you're now more than likely responsible for shattering his confidence.

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#31 Woodguy
September 09 2013, 09:46PM
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If Eakins goes with eight defensemen, I expect the first six – stop the presses – to be Andrew Ference, Ladislav Smid, Justin Schultz, Jeff Petry, Nick Schultz and reclamation project Denis Grebeshkov. Oscar Klefbom, given his SEL experience, is the best bet to grab the seventh spot and could push for a spot in the third pairing, platooning with Grebeshkov.

I see two things different on defense.

1) I like Klefbom a lot and think he'll be a good D for the Oilers for a long time (barring injury), but even MacTavish has mentioned that the rookie camp were his first games in a year and that the AHL is an option.

Belov was the highest scoring Dman in the KHL and was also on the Russian WHC team.

Since they brought all the way over from Russia and given his pedigree, I think he makes the team out of camp and would have to play his way off of it.

2) MacTavish hired 3 LHD men this summer in Ferrence, Grebeshkov and Belov (although Belov plays right as well)

Add to this LHD Smid signed to a long term contract and N.Shultz on his last year and I think N.Shultz may be moved sooner rather than later.

Some team will have an injury and need a D, and he's the odd man out.

Also,

I think the Oilers finish 4th or 5th in the Pacific and it might be good enough for the last playoff spot in the West.

Past CHI and STL no one is particularly strong in the Central and both 4th and 5th in the Pacific might be good enough for both wildcards.

ANA will also step back from last year's points/gm. They played out of their heads percentage wise and Big Sexy almost had a career year and now he's gone for over half the season.

I think 8th-11th is a reasonable range for the Oilers.

I also agree with the poster who mentioned Eberle at C might be worth a look.

It makes some sense for Eberle to play C.

Eberle, Yakupov and Hemsky can all play top 6 minutes, whereas there isn't much on the left side past Hall and Perron.

I think Hall would be fine at C, would just like to see more balance on the lines and Hall at C puts it out of whack a bit.

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#32 David S
September 09 2013, 09:49PM
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OilClog wrote:

You're just the most darn tootin' optimistic person to ever! covering the Oilers aren't you ;)

I see this team finishing 10-11th if all the wildcards, Eakins, MacT.. Fail to do a damn thing. Like Come on.. Hanging on for 10-11th.. LIKE COME ON MAN! Lets just completely Deny Taylor Hall's emergence, Eb's steady presence.. and everything else that has been taking the right progressive steps forward.. You think this team will do no better, with Whitney no longer patrolling the rear guard in a Captain Hook like way... RIDICULOUS! 10-11th.. Turn in your Oiler badge and go cheer Feaster on.

Good Grief.

We'll have Taylor Hall playing woefully out of position for a month during a hellacious away schedule.

When Nuge gets back he'll still be feeling his way back until at least Christmas.

Ryan Jones and Ryan Smyth (need I say more).

D that "still needs work".

A starting goalie our GM still doesn't have confidence in.

Yes. By all means the Oilers will at the very least challenge for conference title.

*Slap*

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#33 D
September 09 2013, 09:49PM
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David S wrote:

Is it just me or does Dallas Eakins look perpetually pissed off?

He looks perpetually pissed off and that is a good thing for the Oilers.

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#34 Robin Brownlee
September 09 2013, 09:50PM
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OilClog wrote:

You're just the most darn tootin' optimistic person to ever! covering the Oilers aren't you ;)

I see this team finishing 10-11th if all the wildcards, Eakins, MacT.. Fail to do a damn thing. Like Come on.. Hanging on for 10-11th.. LIKE COME ON MAN! Lets just completely Deny Taylor Hall's emergence, Eb's steady presence.. and everything else that has been taking the right progressive steps forward.. You think this team will do no better, with Whitney no longer patrolling the rear guard in a Captain Hook like way... RIDICULOUS! 10-11th.. Turn in your Oiler badge and go cheer Feaster on.

Good Grief.

A couple of things . . .

-- I don't have an Oiler badge to turn in.

-- Don't tell me to cheer for anybody.

-- One more time: stow the "Good Grief" bit and, while I'm at it, the tone you're directing my way or you won't be posting here again. Understand?

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#35 Butters
September 09 2013, 09:50PM
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"More important, which team will be the first to piss and moan about one of this 25 goal celebrations this season?"

Do you mean Yak will only score 25, or will he have 25 over-the-top celebrations?

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#36 Fisher
September 09 2013, 09:51PM
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David S wrote:

Is it just me or does Dallas Eakins look perpetually pissed off?

I kinda hope he is. And then I hope that that rubs off on the players. And they can stay pissed off, every game day that the Cup isn't over the heads. On that day, they can smile.

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#37 Craig1981
September 09 2013, 09:51PM
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How long before the many oilers fan who are excited about Gordon, Belov, kelfbom, and joensuu being the next allstars turn on them like they have omark, Smyth, belanger, and grebs. I'm hopeful a couple of them will turn out, but I'm aware Gorden is the only one I remember watching...

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#38 Craig1981
September 09 2013, 09:51PM
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How long before the many oilers fan who are excited about Gordon, Belov, kelfbom, and joensuu being the next allstars turn on them like they have omark, Smyth, belanger, and grebs. I'm hopeful a couple of them will turn out, but I'm aware Gorden is the only one I remember watching...

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#39 OilClog
September 09 2013, 09:53PM
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David S wrote:

We'll have Taylor Hall playing woefully out of position for a month during a hellacious away schedule.

When Nuge gets back he'll still be feeling his way back until at least Christmas.

Ryan Jones and Ryan Smyth (need I say more).

D that "still needs work".

A starting goalie our GM still doesn't have confidence in.

Yes. By all means the Oilers will at the very least challenge for conference title.

*Slap*

Ryan Smyth isn't done, he had a couple coaches that kill horses..

Jones could be gone be end of training camp..

Nuge may be back Oct 1 and they're all screwing with the media.. like it's never happened..

Doobie, if he has confidence in himself and continues to play the way he has.. Goaltending isn't our issue!

I'm not saying conference title.. But 10-11th.. Ridiculous.

And "Good Grief" I thought was the DSF thing.. so it's fun to use.

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#40 OilClog
September 09 2013, 09:54PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

A couple of things . . .

-- I don't have an Oiler badge to turn in.

-- Don't tell me to cheer for anybody.

-- One more time: stow the "Good Grief" bit and, while I'm at it, the tone you're directing my way or you won't be posting here again. Understand?

Well, then I'll take your view of the team as I would a Canucks fan then, thanks for clearing that up.

So sorry sir, cheer for who you wish

You don't like disagreements much do you?

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#41 Walter Sobchak
September 09 2013, 09:57PM
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The Oiler's....Where do I begin?

Last year in a shorten season the Oilers were statistically worse in a variety of areas.

If the Oilers would have lost those last two games, they would have, should have, been a lottery team again.

I just can’t see the Oilers being better the 22nd to 24th in the league.

Taking a hard look at the other teams in the west rosters, and trying to be non-biases towards the Oilers, I have the same concerns as almost every hockey magazine, media, and fans who are not Oilers fans.

The fourth line is a hot mess;

The 3rd line is not what I would consider a true “checking line”, a line that will shut the other team’s big boys down in the defensive zone while intimidating and being hard to play against…… butter soft 3rd line.

Center depth is a massive concern, not just minor, but massive.

Having Hall move to center just ruined his chance at being on the Olympic team. …..Just plain stupid!!! If I was Hall I would be more then pissed!

If the forth line is a hot mess, then the defense is just woefully inadequate!! On any other team Petry - Smid is a 2nd pairing, Schultz Jr - Ferrance is a 3rd pairing , and Shultz Sr is a 6th -7th on any playoff team.

Grebeshkov who might get a spot despite not scoring a goal in two seasons in the KHL.

Belov might not be able to do anything on a smaller, faster ice surface.

Larsen couldn’t make the Stars fulltime and Klefbom should be in the minors for at least a year, but may in fact play on the Oilers this year.

Sorry for the rant, this is how I see the team, I don’t have any optimism left, I am at a show me now point, and I no longer get that giddy feeling about the rebuild, everything is now under scrutiny.

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#42 Robin Brownlee
September 09 2013, 09:57PM
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@Woodguy

Agree on Belov's pedigree, but I'm reluctant to put a player on the roster I haven't seen against NHL competition and who, aside from having to deal with the change in culture, might get out of the blocks slowly with this visa delay.

I don't have him on the roster Oct. 1, but, like I said earlier, I can see him being around if/when Grebeshkov struggles.

As for my 10th-11th pick, the 8-11 or even 12th holes are tricky and often separated by only a handful of points. I want to see how the new alignment impacts this team. New head coach etc etc. Wildcards, as Gregor calls them.

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#43 Craig1981
September 09 2013, 09:57PM
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OilClog wrote:

Actually in person.. Zero.. On youtube.. plenty. Stat sheets in the KHL for last season.. Lots.. All of the gleaming overseas media reports about him being the "Best" in the KHL.. Lets ignore all of this evidence.

You actually think youtube highlights are a good way to judge a players?!?! I got some robbie schremp, and Linus omark clips that clearly show just a highlight reel isn't indicative of a player's nhl quality. I also have some Roman Cervanka stats (omark stats as well) that show khl stats don't translate all the time. I'm not saying he is a bust, but just not a for sure.

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#44 OilClog
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Woodguy wrote:

If Eakins goes with eight defensemen, I expect the first six – stop the presses – to be Andrew Ference, Ladislav Smid, Justin Schultz, Jeff Petry, Nick Schultz and reclamation project Denis Grebeshkov. Oscar Klefbom, given his SEL experience, is the best bet to grab the seventh spot and could push for a spot in the third pairing, platooning with Grebeshkov.

I see two things different on defense.

1) I like Klefbom a lot and think he'll be a good D for the Oilers for a long time (barring injury), but even MacTavish has mentioned that the rookie camp were his first games in a year and that the AHL is an option.

Belov was the highest scoring Dman in the KHL and was also on the Russian WHC team.

Since they brought all the way over from Russia and given his pedigree, I think he makes the team out of camp and would have to play his way off of it.

2) MacTavish hired 3 LHD men this summer in Ferrence, Grebeshkov and Belov (although Belov plays right as well)

Add to this LHD Smid signed to a long term contract and N.Shultz on his last year and I think N.Shultz may be moved sooner rather than later.

Some team will have an injury and need a D, and he's the odd man out.

Also,

I think the Oilers finish 4th or 5th in the Pacific and it might be good enough for the last playoff spot in the West.

Past CHI and STL no one is particularly strong in the Central and both 4th and 5th in the Pacific might be good enough for both wildcards.

ANA will also step back from last year's points/gm. They played out of their heads percentage wise and Big Sexy almost had a career year and now he's gone for over half the season.

I think 8th-11th is a reasonable range for the Oilers.

I also agree with the poster who mentioned Eberle at C might be worth a look.

It makes some sense for Eberle to play C.

Eberle, Yakupov and Hemsky can all play top 6 minutes, whereas there isn't much on the left side past Hall and Perron.

I think Hall would be fine at C, would just like to see more balance on the lines and Hall at C puts it out of whack a bit.

This ^

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#45 OilClog
September 09 2013, 10:02PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

You actually think youtube highlights are a good way to judge a players?!?! I got some robbie schremp, and Linus omark clips that clearly show just a highlight reel isn't indicative of a player's nhl quality. I also have some Roman Cervanka stats (omark stats as well) that show khl stats don't translate all the time. I'm not saying he is a bust, but just not a for sure.

Well when his youtube plays cover a very wide selection of different aspects of the game, instead of a couple fancy puck moves.. and the fact that you can watch freaking full games!!

Then lets again forget all the damn glowing gushing media reports about the guy! Jeebus.

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#46 OilClog
September 09 2013, 10:05PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

You actually think youtube highlights are a good way to judge a players?!?! I got some robbie schremp, and Linus omark clips that clearly show just a highlight reel isn't indicative of a player's nhl quality. I also have some Roman Cervanka stats (omark stats as well) that show khl stats don't translate all the time. I'm not saying he is a bust, but just not a for sure.

Linus Omark has already put up points in the NHL, successfully. And I have watched him many times, left wondering why he was scratched or benched.. when he was at various points.. one of the only players we had that could move the puck in the right FREAKING DIRECTION!! what do you watch exactly? or when Omark has played.. do you shut your mind off and walk into walls until they say a nice quality north american name.. Ryan Jones..

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#47 Racki
September 09 2013, 10:06PM
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At what point did we time warp back 30 years and start using the expression "good grief" again? I'm pretty sure DSF is 65 years old, so it's acceptable in his case.

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#48 OilClog
September 09 2013, 10:06PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Well, there goes any chance of you winning the highly sought after the 11 x 14 autographed Rueben Bronte framed photo.....

Was it worth it bud......and trashing his comment, you're now more than likely responsible for shattering his confidence.

Damn it.

Yes, yes it was.

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#49 Robin Brownlee
September 09 2013, 10:07PM
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OilClog wrote:

Well, then I'll take your view of the team as I would a Canucks fan then, thanks for clearing that up.

So sorry sir, cheer for who you wish

You don't like disagreements much do you?

I'll take your sarcastic refusal to straighten out after I warned you as an indication you no longer care to post comments here. Done.

Disagreement and disrespect are two different matters.

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#50 book¡e
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David S wrote:

Is it just me or does Dallas Eakins look perpetually pissed off?

You should see him when he gets his chainsaw and boomstick out

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