THE YAKUPOV SELECTION

Lowetide
January 13 2014 01:53PM

 

The Edmonton Oilers selection of Nail Yakupov No. 1 overall in the 2012 NHL Entry draft remains a story 18 months later. For one reason or another, the Yak City pick hasn't settled in like the Hall and Nuge drafts. The story got a little publicity this morning, and one wonders if we'll be dealing with it for years. 

OCTOBER 2013—CONFIRMED

Bob McKenzie confirmed a well known Edmonton rumor in October, tweeting out that the "majority of Edmonton scouts wanted Murray, and the decision to take Yakupov came from a higher authority. 

The story came up this morning when I was on the air at TSN 1260, and I wanted to mention it today. The push from media came courtesy Eric Duhatschek

  • Lots of people in Edmonton believe that owner Darryl Katz had some significant input into the decision to draft Nail Yakupov first overall in 2012 rather than opt for the safer choice, defenceman Ryan Murray, who would have filled a greater organizational need. With every passing day, that decision looks more and more suspect. Murray was limited to 23 games with the Everett Silvertips last year because of major knee surgery, but even as an NHL rookie, has looked good on the Columbus defence, playing a lot with James Wisniewski and providing the defensive presence on that pair. What if Murray turns out to be Alex Pietrangelo good – and they left him on the table to draft another offensive player, of which they had plenty already? How do you assess blame there? Or maybe they already have, since the GM that called Yakupov’s name, Steve Tambellini, is no longer running the show.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

I find the conversation surprising. Although there's no doubt Nail Yakupov has struggled this season, Mr. Duhatschek's story is the first time "blame" has been mentioned. Presumptive? Certainly, but it's out there now, and should Nail Yakupov not deliver on promise, the scouting staff would appear to be free and clear. 

I'd still bet on Yakupov. All day. 

In a period where Oilers owner Daryl Katz is taking some heat for his team's won-loss record, perhaps fans need to be reminded that (reportedly) his draft day decisions are very likely to deliver. It remains very risky to take defensemen at #1 overall, and 45 NHL games don't change that at all. 

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#51 pkam
January 13 2014, 04:25PM
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Zarny wrote:

Their first 20 games means they won't likely leapfrog many but they will finish ahead of Calgary and Buffalo for sure and they probably only have to be a few games above 0.500 the rest of the way to catch Florida, NYI and Winnipeg.

Even if they draft 3rd Ekblad is off the board.

Even if Calgary and Sabres drafted before us, we still have a good chance.

Everyone knows Sabres is loaded with defense prospects so they probably will go for a center.

We all know Calgary is very weak down the middle so they may also choose a center than defense as well.

With Samuel Bennett, Sam Reinhart and Draisaitl 3 potential 1st line center in the top 4, I am not totally convinced that Ekblad will be gone in the 1st and 2nd.

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#52 Eulers
January 13 2014, 04:30PM
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"I'd still bet on Yakupov. All day."

THIS. All day long! Kudos to Katz for smacking some sense into his management team. Maybe be the best thing he did.

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#53 bazmagoo
January 13 2014, 04:33PM
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To the guys who think the Oilers will leap frog other teams - can I buy some of what you are smoking?

Yes the Oilers have more raw talent than many of the teams above them, but they are saddled with an ineffective coach who isn't capable at the NHL level. MacT made some good moves this off season, but the coaching change wasn't one of them. I disliked Krueger, but he deserved a full season behind the bench.

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#54 admiralmark
January 13 2014, 04:38PM
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I think it is a big question mark at this juncture. A lot of it has to do with it being hard to get a read on Yak's mental make up. His interviews are not at all enlightening. I don't blame him for his lack of English. But sometimes i feel he is doing himself a disservice by not having a translator and/or not learning the language so as to get across how he's feeling. Perhaps there is better communication going on between team and player. But from a fans perspective I would be incredibly concerned about this pick. To my eye he looks about a half season away from jumping over to the KHL.

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#55 Lochenzo
January 13 2014, 04:42PM
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I now know what's it feels like to be a Lambourghini enthusiast complaining about having TWO Diablos in the garage.

On the one hand, you may ask why do you have two Diablos. On the other hand, you may want to smack the guy upside the head and say, is that what you're really complaining about!

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#56 Kr55
January 13 2014, 04:46PM
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I always laugh at those EA rankings. Like Yak doesn't know how to shoot a puck coming into the NHL and it'll take him 3 years of NHL development before their is any power or accuracy behind his slap shot :)

In any case, Yak was and still is the right choice. At the very least he gives us depth at RW and Ebs can be used in a package to get an established D-man. It's up to the inept management of the Oilers to make the right moves with what they have. Good luck with that eh?

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#57 **
January 13 2014, 04:47PM
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The goal in the GIF was not. The ball had crossed the line before the striker kicked it towards the net.

I like Yakupov's game, but the Oilers didn't need him, nor did they needed Murray, they need to use that pick to bring a veteran piece.

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#58 S cottV
January 13 2014, 04:56PM
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They should have traded the pick to someone desperate for scoring and willing to give up a substance piece - like a proven top 3 d man and a draft pick.

Murray probably too risky as a young d man to take a chance on and Galchenyuk too soft for what is really needed in 2C.

With a fairly soft RNH in 1C, you need to follow him up with a Backes-like tank in 2C, particularly in the Pacific division.

Now the Oilers are stuck trying to teach this quirky, small winger how to play the game and I dont think he will ever fully get it. A top team would not even be able to justify him in the line up because he would have to play top 6. Could you imagine Yak being coached by nuts and bolts guys like Sutter or Torts?

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#59 Zarny
January 13 2014, 05:04PM
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pkam wrote:

Even if Calgary and Sabres drafted before us, we still have a good chance.

Everyone knows Sabres is loaded with defense prospects so they probably will go for a center.

We all know Calgary is very weak down the middle so they may also choose a center than defense as well.

With Samuel Bennett, Sam Reinhart and Draisaitl 3 potential 1st line center in the top 4, I am not totally convinced that Ekblad will be gone in the 1st and 2nd.

Hey Seth Jones dropped to 4th so nothing is impossible. If picks were solely based on hockey I'd say no chance; but selling tickets is part of the equation (see Yakupov).

None of Buf D prospects are in the same ballpark as Ekblad. Buf will likely ship Ehrhoff and Myers out of town shortly, and they also have Hodgson and Grigorenko.

Calgary drafted Monahan last year. Reinhart's brother is already with the Flames and they could go for a C regardless; but I have a feeling Burke goes for Ekblad if he's available.

Florida drafted Barkov last year so if the Oilers manage to jump ahead I see them going D too. If they catch NYI I expect they go with Ekblad if available since they already have Tavares.

And if one of the bottom feeders doesn't win the lottery it's more likely the team picking #1 will already have a 1st line center.

And regardless, if Ekblad is available I'd rather see the Oilers the package the pick to Phx for OEL or something like that.

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#60 etownman
January 13 2014, 05:05PM
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Yak all the way baby! That one timer from a 20 yr old is a natural scorer! They don't come along often & when 6'5" Yakimov signs & makes the Oilers it'll be Yak from Yak.....& don't look back!

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#61 S cottV
January 13 2014, 05:13PM
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etownman wrote:

Yak all the way baby! That one timer from a 20 yr old is a natural scorer! They don't come along often & when 6'5" Yakimov signs & makes the Oilers it'll be Yak from Yak.....& don't look back!

Sounds like 4 more years out of the playoffs.

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#62 pkam
January 13 2014, 05:19PM
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Zarny wrote:

Hey Seth Jones dropped to 4th so nothing is impossible. If picks were solely based on hockey I'd say no chance; but selling tickets is part of the equation (see Yakupov).

None of Buf D prospects are in the same ballpark as Ekblad. Buf will likely ship Ehrhoff and Myers out of town shortly, and they also have Hodgson and Grigorenko.

Calgary drafted Monahan last year. Reinhart's brother is already with the Flames and they could go for a C regardless; but I have a feeling Burke goes for Ekblad if he's available.

Florida drafted Barkov last year so if the Oilers manage to jump ahead I see them going D too. If they catch NYI I expect they go with Ekblad if available since they already have Tavares.

And if one of the bottom feeders doesn't win the lottery it's more likely the team picking #1 will already have a 1st line center.

And regardless, if Ekblad is available I'd rather see the Oilers the package the pick to Phx for OEL or something like that.

Colorado needs defense nearly as much as the Oilers and they passed on Jones to take Mackinon. I can understand that Mackinon is probably a better player than Jones long term.

Panthers already have some defense prospects and needs a center more so it may explain why.

But I think Tampa really need some defense and even they pass on Jones.

Which makes me to believe if there are players of equal talents, most teams will picks centers first, then wings before defense and goalie because forwards develop faster and are less risky.

Buffalo just sent Grigorenko down to the juniors and some argue that neither he and Hodgson are true no 1 center.

Calgary only have one top center in Monahan, they are still in need of another one.

I am not saying Ekblad will be available for 3rd or 4th picks, I just say he may after watching what happened last year.

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#63 Zarny
January 13 2014, 05:28PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

To the guys who think the Oilers will leap frog other teams - can I buy some of what you are smoking?

Yes the Oilers have more raw talent than many of the teams above them, but they are saddled with an ineffective coach who isn't capable at the NHL level. MacT made some good moves this off season, but the coaching change wasn't one of them. I disliked Krueger, but he deserved a full season behind the bench.

$220/ounce.

Krueger did absolutely nothing in response to a 10 game losing streak last year and coached the team to 26th in a shortened season where they were falling at the end.

The first 20 games certainly mean the Oilers won't leapfrog many teams.

However, from games 21-43 the Oilers were 9-11-3 with 21 pts. Only 26th over that span but also within 2 pts of a playoff spot. The Oil were better than Cgy, Buf, NYI and Min over that stretch and within 2 pts of Dallas, Ottawa, Winnipeg, NJ, Phoenix, Toronto and Nashville.

Eakins wasn't the problem with the Oilers. Starting the season with both the 1C and 2C on IR was the problem. A 4th line with no NHL experience was the problem. Half the D with no NHL experience was the problem. Dubnyk letting in beachballs from the blueline was the problem. All the kids you are relying on averaging 120 games experience was the problem.

The first 20 games has caused a lot of fans to completely lose touch with reality.

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#64 Josh Oiler
January 13 2014, 05:42PM
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IS EVERYONE KIDDING ME HERE???

YAKUPOV IS THE NEXT OVECHKIN/KOVALCHUK!!!!

HE IS YOUNG AND EAKINS DOESNT HAVE A FREAKIN CLUE HOW TO USE THIS GUY BECAUSE HEA NEVER COACHED ANYONE AS TALENTED AS YAKUPOV!!

IF YAK GOT TAYLOR HALL ICE TIME--- MAN WATCH OUT THIS DUDE WOULD BE TOP 5 IN THE NHL SCORING RACE!!

ITS A SHAME THE OILERS DONT USE HIM PROPERLY!

IF HE GETS TRADED - I WILL NEVER WATCH ANOTHER OILER GAME AGAIN, NOR WILL YOU SEE ME ON THIS MSG BOARD AGAIN BECAUSE HE WILL WIN THE ART ROSS AT LEAST 2WICE BEFORE THE AGE OF 30!!

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#65 Mac962
January 13 2014, 05:45PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

IS EVERYONE KIDDING ME HERE???

YAKUPOV IS THE NEXT OVECHKIN/KOVALCHUK!!!!

HE IS YOUNG AND EAKINS DOESNT HAVE A FREAKIN CLUE HOW TO USE THIS GUY BECAUSE HEA NEVER COACHED ANYONE AS TALENTED AS YAKUPOV!!

IF YAK GOT TAYLOR HALL ICE TIME--- MAN WATCH OUT THIS DUDE WOULD BE TOP 5 IN THE NHL SCORING RACE!!

ITS A SHAME THE OILERS DONT USE HIM PROPERLY!

IF HE GETS TRADED - I WILL NEVER WATCH ANOTHER OILER GAME AGAIN, NOR WILL YOU SEE ME ON THIS MSG BOARD AGAIN BECAUSE HE WILL WIN THE ART ROSS AT LEAST 2WICE BEFORE THE AGE OF 30!!

Dont let the door hit you in the Labia on the way out.

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#66 Nimrod
January 13 2014, 05:51PM
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Yakupov wasn't needed and since Oilers would never trade a player they pick #1 overall they now have a team that's so unbalanced they have no chance competing in the Pacific Division.

Now they are already trying to sell Ekblad to Oilers fans as the solution (see MacTavish interview).

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#67 pelhem grenville
January 13 2014, 05:52PM
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64 is 9-8-17 -28 in 45 games...some say ah give him a chance ...others say he's had bad coaching ...he was a NUMBER ONE PICK OVERALL!!!

when will he make an end to this mediocrity...

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#68 SRELIOFAN
January 13 2014, 05:53PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

Sure Murray would have addressed an organizational need better but I'm confident that Yakupov will be by far the best of that draft class in years to come. Drafting defense and goalies for that matter 1st overall rarely works out.

Very true. Example: Cam Barker??

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#69 Zarny
January 13 2014, 06:08PM
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pkam wrote:

Colorado needs defense nearly as much as the Oilers and they passed on Jones to take Mackinon. I can understand that Mackinon is probably a better player than Jones long term.

Panthers already have some defense prospects and needs a center more so it may explain why.

But I think Tampa really need some defense and even they pass on Jones.

Which makes me to believe if there are players of equal talents, most teams will picks centers first, then wings before defense and goalie because forwards develop faster and are less risky.

Buffalo just sent Grigorenko down to the juniors and some argue that neither he and Hodgson are true no 1 center.

Calgary only have one top center in Monahan, they are still in need of another one.

I am not saying Ekblad will be available for 3rd or 4th picks, I just say he may after watching what happened last year.

I don't disagree with anything you said. Legit #1 C and franchise D are equally as rare but a flashy forward sells more tickets (Col, Fla, TB, Buf).

I certainly won't be upset if the Oilers get Ekblad; but he's 3-5 years away from being a top pairing D. Same for Nurse.

I just don't see waiting for D prospects as the solution. At least not the best one. Nurse-Ekblad would be a great bookend. I get it. I'd rather see the pick traded for a top D who is already mature.

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#70 Zarny
January 13 2014, 06:10PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

IS EVERYONE KIDDING ME HERE???

YAKUPOV IS THE NEXT OVECHKIN/KOVALCHUK!!!!

HE IS YOUNG AND EAKINS DOESNT HAVE A FREAKIN CLUE HOW TO USE THIS GUY BECAUSE HEA NEVER COACHED ANYONE AS TALENTED AS YAKUPOV!!

IF YAK GOT TAYLOR HALL ICE TIME--- MAN WATCH OUT THIS DUDE WOULD BE TOP 5 IN THE NHL SCORING RACE!!

ITS A SHAME THE OILERS DONT USE HIM PROPERLY!

IF HE GETS TRADED - I WILL NEVER WATCH ANOTHER OILER GAME AGAIN, NOR WILL YOU SEE ME ON THIS MSG BOARD AGAIN BECAUSE HE WILL WIN THE ART ROSS AT LEAST 2WICE BEFORE THE AGE OF 30!!

Try reality sometime...you'll like it.

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#71 pkam
January 13 2014, 06:17PM
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SRELIOFAN wrote:

Very true. Example: Cam Barker??

Cam Barker was 3rd overall in 2004, not 1st overall.

Erik Johnson, 1st overall in 2006 will be a better example. You have to shake your head if you look at the 4 picks after him. 2nd Jordan Staal, 3rd Jonathan Toews, 4th Nicklas Backstrom, 5th Phil Kessel. I'll take anyone of those 4 over Erik Johnson.

Not all high draft defenseman will not work out. Drew Doughty and Alex Pietrangelo (2nd and 4th in 2008) work out pretty good. But none of Weber, Chara, and Keith, arguably the top 3 defensemen now, are even 1st round picks.

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#72 Josh Oiler
January 13 2014, 06:22PM
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MAYBE DALLAS EAKINS IS A RACIST??

YAK IS A DARK HAIRED - DARK EYED RUSSIAN MUSLIM!

TAYLOR, PERRON, NUGE ETC BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED GOOD OLE CANADIAN KIDS GET THE ICE TIME...

DARE SOMEBODY SAY IT--- THERE YOU GO... EVERONE THINKING IT!!! NOW ITS BEEN SAID.

EVANDER KANE AND WAYNE SIMMONDS BETTER WATCH OUT THEY DONT GET TRADED TO EDM.. THEY MAY BE HEALTHY SCRATCHES EVERY SECOND GAME OR ONLY PLAY 4 MINUTES A GAME LIKE YAKUPOV.

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#73 Tuningout
January 13 2014, 06:25PM
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Impartial Oilers Fan wrote:

@Lowetide

I don't understand why fans and bloggers like Lowetide or mc79hockey defend Yakupov and go out of their way to pump his tires.

I find it troubling when even the Russian Olympic team didn't take Yakupov, yet they took apparently inferior KHL players (I guess based on experience), but they also took Valeri Nichushkin (18 years old, so there goes the experience theory). Plus, they can't have any anti Russian bias like great YakCity fan clubs says is the only thing critics have against him.

So if the Russian team and Eakins are seeing the same deficiencies in his game, why is it that fans and bloggers don't give any credence to the theory that maybe, just maybe, he's not as good as hoped? I believe that's a fair question and look forward to the responses that are logical, not just the ones that scream YakCity and say he can shoot a puck real hard.

I wonder how much consideration the Russian team put into Yakupov saying last year he wasn't Russian.

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#74 pkam
January 13 2014, 06:31PM
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Zarny wrote:

I don't disagree with anything you said. Legit #1 C and franchise D are equally as rare but a flashy forward sells more tickets (Col, Fla, TB, Buf).

I certainly won't be upset if the Oilers get Ekblad; but he's 3-5 years away from being a top pairing D. Same for Nurse.

I just don't see waiting for D prospects as the solution. At least not the best one. Nurse-Ekblad would be a great bookend. I get it. I'd rather see the pick traded for a top D who is already mature.

I am not debating whether the Oilers should pick Ekblad or not, I am just pointing out that it is very possible that Ekblad will still be available at 3rd or 4th.

I believe forwards can develop faster and are less risky than defense and that is why teams feel more comfortable to draft forward over defense.

If both Ekblad and Draisaitl is still available, I'll be tempted to pick Draisaitl over Ekblad for the same reason I list above. If both Monahan and Nurse were available, I'll take Monahan over Nurse.

My bet is the Flames will take a center over Ekblad this year. They already have Giordano, Wideman and Brodie, not the best defense core but much better than ours. They will need a center more than we do.

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#75 michael
January 13 2014, 06:34PM
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@Zarny

The Oilers need not 1 defenceman but 3 going into next season. Marincin though is making it harder with each passing game. The Oilers need another Ference type dman.

The Oilers are not going to spend a truck load of money and assets to aquire a number 1 dman. Especially if they feel that what they are giving up in return is detrimental to the team long term.

Lowetide believes the Oilers will trade their pick this year. I don't believe you do that because regardless of opinion the Oilers are doing the right thing by building through the draft. You can't buy that kind of loyalty. Sure for every Ference there is a Pronger.

Ference grew up in the Edmonton area. It was a good move for him career wise and financially.

You look at a guy like Ryan Smyth. You can't buy that kind of loyalty. His leadership on and off the ice is invaluable.

What have the likes of Ben Eager,Eric Belanger and others brought to this team via free agency? Squat. Boyd Gordon knew what he was buying into when he signed here. He played down the road in Red Deer. He understands the deal. Sure has been a player as advertised. Plays hard every night.

We need players who are commited to Edmonton and its community. Not only to the team. We need guys who are brought through the organization. We need organic growth and development.

When MacT can he should add character players as he has done this past off season. When given a choice the Oilers should look within their organization for players to fill roles.

Free agency is a crap shoot. We've all seen what the results can be. Chasing guys like Heatly and Nylander. We need to stop the madness. Focus on developing and drafting. Its the only way to develop a winning organization long term.

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#76 Walter Sobchak
January 13 2014, 06:36PM
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Zarny wrote:

$220/ounce.

Krueger did absolutely nothing in response to a 10 game losing streak last year and coached the team to 26th in a shortened season where they were falling at the end.

The first 20 games certainly mean the Oilers won't leapfrog many teams.

However, from games 21-43 the Oilers were 9-11-3 with 21 pts. Only 26th over that span but also within 2 pts of a playoff spot. The Oil were better than Cgy, Buf, NYI and Min over that stretch and within 2 pts of Dallas, Ottawa, Winnipeg, NJ, Phoenix, Toronto and Nashville.

Eakins wasn't the problem with the Oilers. Starting the season with both the 1C and 2C on IR was the problem. A 4th line with no NHL experience was the problem. Half the D with no NHL experience was the problem. Dubnyk letting in beachballs from the blueline was the problem. All the kids you are relying on averaging 120 games experience was the problem.

The first 20 games has caused a lot of fans to completely lose touch with reality.

‘Krueger did absolutely nothing in response to a 10 game losing streak last year and coached the team to 26th in a shortened season where they were falling at the end.’

How is having a depleted & injured team and in a playoff position Krueger’s fault? Honest question?

How is that the coach’s fault?

That was Tambellini failing to act instead Tambellini reacted far too late for Krueger to do anything about it.

I respectfully disagree that Eakins isn’t the problem.

Krueger did more with arguable a worse team.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Matt-Henderson/The-Krueger-Line/191/57162

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2014/01/13/ralph-kruegers-oilers-vs-dallas-eakins-oilers/

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#77 Quinn the Eskimo
January 13 2014, 06:38PM
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Wintoon wrote:

I cannot believe the amount of backbiting hysteria that is creeping onto these sites. Are we really second guessing draft picks less than 1 season into an NHL career. Get a grip people.

"Are we really second guessing draft picks less than 1 season into an NHL career" No, we are discussing the propriety of the owner making the picks. I'm against it.

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#78 Jtfan
January 13 2014, 06:39PM
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Yak is definitely not ovechkin but he has pure offense and like ovechkin with washington the worst +- on their respective teams. Whether he can learn to see his teamates and make the right play .......we may have to be patient and see if he develops......he does have the quickest release and speed to burn!

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#79 Quinn the Eskimo
January 13 2014, 06:39PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

IS EVERYONE KIDDING ME HERE???

YAKUPOV IS THE NEXT OVECHKIN/KOVALCHUK!!!!

HE IS YOUNG AND EAKINS DOESNT HAVE A FREAKIN CLUE HOW TO USE THIS GUY BECAUSE HEA NEVER COACHED ANYONE AS TALENTED AS YAKUPOV!!

IF YAK GOT TAYLOR HALL ICE TIME--- MAN WATCH OUT THIS DUDE WOULD BE TOP 5 IN THE NHL SCORING RACE!!

ITS A SHAME THE OILERS DONT USE HIM PROPERLY!

IF HE GETS TRADED - I WILL NEVER WATCH ANOTHER OILER GAME AGAIN, NOR WILL YOU SEE ME ON THIS MSG BOARD AGAIN BECAUSE HE WILL WIN THE ART ROSS AT LEAST 2WICE BEFORE THE AGE OF 30!!

YOUR VOICE IS GONNA GIVE OUT IF YOU KEEP SHOUTING LIKE THIS, JOSH. !!!!! !!!!!

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#80 Zarny
January 13 2014, 06:40PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

MAYBE DALLAS EAKINS IS A RACIST??

YAK IS A DARK HAIRED - DARK EYED RUSSIAN MUSLIM!

TAYLOR, PERRON, NUGE ETC BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED GOOD OLE CANADIAN KIDS GET THE ICE TIME...

DARE SOMEBODY SAY IT--- THERE YOU GO... EVERONE THINKING IT!!! NOW ITS BEEN SAID.

EVANDER KANE AND WAYNE SIMMONDS BETTER WATCH OUT THEY DONT GET TRADED TO EDM.. THEY MAY BE HEALTHY SCRATCHES EVERY SECOND GAME OR ONLY PLAY 4 MINUTES A GAME LIKE YAKUPOV.

Nuge has dark hair, Yak isn't Muslim and Muslim isn't a race.

Just when you think it can't be done someone like you comes along and sets the stupid bar just a little bit higher.

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#81 **
January 13 2014, 06:48PM
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SRELIOFAN wrote:

Very true. Example: Cam Barker??

rick di pietro

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#82 justDOit
January 13 2014, 06:51PM
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Lochenzo wrote:

I now know what's it feels like to be a Lambourghini enthusiast complaining about having TWO Diablos in the garage.

On the one hand, you may ask why do you have two Diablos. On the other hand, you may want to smack the guy upside the head and say, is that what you're really complaining about!

It's the $7000 tuneups every 15k that are a bitch about the Diablo!

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#83 **
January 13 2014, 06:51PM
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Quinn the Eskimo wrote:

"Are we really second guessing draft picks less than 1 season into an NHL career" No, we are discussing the propriety of the owner making the picks. I'm against it.

I'm not against Yakupov, I think he is going ot be a superstar. I'm against Oilers ownership and management not making the best decision for the team. Yakupov was not what the team needed.

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#84 Josh Oiler
January 13 2014, 06:52PM
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Zarny wrote:

Nuge has dark hair, Yak isn't Muslim and Muslim isn't a race.

Just when you think it can't be done someone like you comes along and sets the stupid bar just a little bit higher.

LOOK HERE ZARNEY - IF THATS EVEN YOUR REAL NAME!!

IVE MET NUGE. I KNOW YAK - CHECK YOUR FACTS!!

AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW ANY BETTER!! PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOUR SELF BECAUSE YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY MIS INFORMED.

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#85 justDOit
January 13 2014, 06:54PM
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@Zarny

Um, yes - Nail is Muslim.

As for the post you replied to... yikes!

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#86 justDOit
January 13 2014, 06:55PM
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@Josh Oiler

At least Z isn't yelling. Can you take it down a bit?

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#87 Josh Oiler
January 13 2014, 06:57PM
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@Zarny

Idiot

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#88 Max
January 13 2014, 06:59PM
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Yak should have been sent to the minors rather than immediately be put on the team - time to be a bit more mature and to learn some more English. For all you Yak lovers, did you not SEE what he did against the Pens?? He circled the net TWICE, puck hogging, making NO EFFORT to pass to a team-mate or shoot. Doesn't that tell us all something. He reminds me of a Russian version of O'mark, puck hog/prima donna.

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#89 Josh Oiler
January 13 2014, 07:02PM
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YAK CITY IS THE GREATEST THIS TO HAPPEN TO THE EDMONTON OILERS SINCE WAYNE GRETZKY!!

MARK MY WORDS

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#90 kale
January 13 2014, 07:04PM
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@Zarny

Yakupov went into detail about what his Muslim faith means for his hockey career,

This is from Andrey's post last June. Reet the bar.

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#91 Jay Gray
January 13 2014, 07:08PM
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I liked the pick then, I like the pick now.

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#92 Josh Oiler
January 13 2014, 07:19PM
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I think ZARNY hates YAKUPOV even more now that he's a Muslim.

ZARNY you shouldn't hate because of someones color or religion. It is 2014 after all!

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#93 John Kirsch
January 13 2014, 07:21PM
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The fact of the matter is that Yak shouldn't be playing in the NHL right now. Whether or not he is a bust or not is to be determined- it is too early to tell.

Everyone who gives a rat --- about the Oilers is simply frustrated with ownership down about the player personal moves over the last decade, hence the "venting".

Besides being a Oilers fan I follow The NY Jets and sadly I can see a lot of the systemic issues and utter dysfunctionality that again comes from the top down year in and year out form both orgs. I feel bad for the fans who in the end JUST want a competitive team with a chance to compete against the Pacific's best year in and year out.

Oilers should go and recruit player personal and management people from winning organizations much like successful NFL organizations have done.

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#94 David S
January 13 2014, 07:23PM
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Ahhh the old capslock post. Classic.

Man. I so fondly remember the early days of the internet when people thought typing all caps meant anybody reading your post HAD to take it seriously.

Nowadays it just means your a freakin' idio...well, you know.

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#95 Josh Oiler
January 13 2014, 07:32PM
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John Kirsch wrote:

The fact of the matter is that Yak shouldn't be playing in the NHL right now. Whether or not he is a bust or not is to be determined- it is too early to tell.

Everyone who gives a rat --- about the Oilers is simply frustrated with ownership down about the player personal moves over the last decade, hence the "venting".

Besides being a Oilers fan I follow The NY Jets and sadly I can see a lot of the systemic issues and utter dysfunctionality that again comes from the top down year in and year out form both orgs. I feel bad for the fans who in the end JUST want a competitive team with a chance to compete against the Pacific's best year in and year out.

Oilers should go and recruit player personal and management people from winning organizations much like successful NFL organizations have done.

Yak City lead the Oilers in goals last year.. In his rookie season playing decent minutes.

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#96 Zarny
January 13 2014, 07:33PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

‘Krueger did absolutely nothing in response to a 10 game losing streak last year and coached the team to 26th in a shortened season where they were falling at the end.’

How is having a depleted & injured team and in a playoff position Krueger’s fault? Honest question?

How is that the coach’s fault?

That was Tambellini failing to act instead Tambellini reacted far too late for Krueger to do anything about it.

I respectfully disagree that Eakins isn’t the problem.

Krueger did more with arguable a worse team.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Matt-Henderson/The-Krueger-Line/191/57162

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2014/01/13/ralph-kruegers-oilers-vs-dallas-eakins-oilers/

LMAO...a depleted and injured team in a playoff position?

None of the top players were injured last year: Hall (45), Eberle (48), Gagner (48), Yakupov (48), Schutlz (48) were available almost every game and Nuge only missed 8 games.

The Oilers have been injured far more this year than during Krueger's tenure. And at least the 4th line and the D had some NHL experience last year.

How is that Eakin's fault? Honest question.

From the hockeybuzz article:

"Under Krueger Dubnyk had a .920sv% and a GAA of 2.57...Under Eakins Dubnyk’s performance has fallen off the face of the Earth with a .894sv% and GAA of 3.36".

Dubnyk pretty much accounts for the differences alone. Is that Eakins' fault?

I don't think Krueger did a bad job; but he wasn't that great. And he literally did nothing during the losing streak. Changed nothing. Just a stunned look on his face. Which yes, Eakins has sometimes too.

Because the reality is you can't coach around the holes on this team.

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#97 GeezMoney
January 13 2014, 07:35PM
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Haha, Oilers fans... still deciding who you are going to pick first overall?

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#98 Zarny
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Josh Oiler wrote:

Yak City lead the Oilers in goals last year.. In his rookie season playing decent minutes.

Yakupov's TOI/game 2014 - 14:23

Yakupov's TOI/game 2014 - 14:33

Yak averaged an extra 10 seconds on the ice per game last year.

Try again.

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#99 corky
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On a better run team Yak would have been groomed in the minors. But not here. This is not the first case of Oil messing with development. They ruined Jeff Delauriers development by not having their own farm team. The incompetence has run long and deep with the Oilers. For shame.

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#100 Josh Oiler
January 13 2014, 07:38PM
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Zarny wrote:

LMAO...a depleted and injured team in a playoff position?

None of the top players were injured last year: Hall (45), Eberle (48), Gagner (48), Yakupov (48), Schutlz (48) were available almost every game and Nuge only missed 8 games.

The Oilers have been injured far more this year than during Krueger's tenure. And at least the 4th line and the D had some NHL experience last year.

How is that Eakin's fault? Honest question.

From the hockeybuzz article:

"Under Krueger Dubnyk had a .920sv% and a GAA of 2.57...Under Eakins Dubnyk’s performance has fallen off the face of the Earth with a .894sv% and GAA of 3.36".

Dubnyk pretty much accounts for the differences alone. Is that Eakins' fault?

I don't think Krueger did a bad job; but he wasn't that great. And he literally did nothing during the losing streak. Changed nothing. Just a stunned look on his face. Which yes, Eakins has sometimes too.

Because the reality is you can't coach around the holes on this team.

SUTTER can!

Hitchcock can!

TORTORELLA can!

VIGNEAULT can!

Lindy Ruff can too!

Check your facts! Eakins is a small time coach!

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