THE YAKUPOV SELECTION

Lowetide
January 13 2014 01:53PM

 

The Edmonton Oilers selection of Nail Yakupov No. 1 overall in the 2012 NHL Entry draft remains a story 18 months later. For one reason or another, the Yak City pick hasn't settled in like the Hall and Nuge drafts. The story got a little publicity this morning, and one wonders if we'll be dealing with it for years. 

OCTOBER 2013—CONFIRMED

Bob McKenzie confirmed a well known Edmonton rumor in October, tweeting out that the "majority of Edmonton scouts wanted Murray, and the decision to take Yakupov came from a higher authority. 

The story came up this morning when I was on the air at TSN 1260, and I wanted to mention it today. The push from media came courtesy Eric Duhatschek

  • Lots of people in Edmonton believe that owner Darryl Katz had some significant input into the decision to draft Nail Yakupov first overall in 2012 rather than opt for the safer choice, defenceman Ryan Murray, who would have filled a greater organizational need. With every passing day, that decision looks more and more suspect. Murray was limited to 23 games with the Everett Silvertips last year because of major knee surgery, but even as an NHL rookie, has looked good on the Columbus defence, playing a lot with James Wisniewski and providing the defensive presence on that pair. What if Murray turns out to be Alex Pietrangelo good – and they left him on the table to draft another offensive player, of which they had plenty already? How do you assess blame there? Or maybe they already have, since the GM that called Yakupov’s name, Steve Tambellini, is no longer running the show.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

I find the conversation surprising. Although there's no doubt Nail Yakupov has struggled this season, Mr. Duhatschek's story is the first time "blame" has been mentioned. Presumptive? Certainly, but it's out there now, and should Nail Yakupov not deliver on promise, the scouting staff would appear to be free and clear. 

I'd still bet on Yakupov. All day. 

In a period where Oilers owner Daryl Katz is taking some heat for his team's won-loss record, perhaps fans need to be reminded that (reportedly) his draft day decisions are very likely to deliver. It remains very risky to take defensemen at #1 overall, and 45 NHL games don't change that at all. 

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#101 **
January 13 2014, 06:48PM
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SRELIOFAN wrote:

Very true. Example: Cam Barker??

rick di pietro

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#102 mouthbreather
January 13 2014, 10:03PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

MAYBE DALLAS EAKINS IS A RACIST??

YAK IS A DARK HAIRED - DARK EYED RUSSIAN MUSLIM!

TAYLOR, PERRON, NUGE ETC BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED GOOD OLE CANADIAN KIDS GET THE ICE TIME...

DARE SOMEBODY SAY IT--- THERE YOU GO... EVERONE THINKING IT!!! NOW ITS BEEN SAID.

EVANDER KANE AND WAYNE SIMMONDS BETTER WATCH OUT THEY DONT GET TRADED TO EDM.. THEY MAY BE HEALTHY SCRATCHES EVERY SECOND GAME OR ONLY PLAY 4 MINUTES A GAME LIKE YAKUPOV.

Can someone ban is rod from this site?

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#103 Nowuknow
January 14 2014, 04:19AM
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Some of this stories are getting desperate for this writers. Lowetied, are you saying yak is not better than Murry? Why did you write this garbage article the end of last season? You are pathetic ........ Please retire sooooooon....

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#104 A-Mc
January 13 2014, 03:52PM
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Ryan2 wrote:

The only player the Oilers should have strongly looked at taking ahead of Yak that year is Galchenyuk. If he had not been injured and missed a good chunk of that season they likely would have. I would have taken him instead as you can never have enough top two centermen.

Murray is like going to be a #3 d-man in the end that is good at a lot of things but not great. While every team needs players like that, drafting a #3 d-man first overall is a whiff. In the end Murray will likely not be the best d-man in his class either (in fact, Lindholm is oupacing him now).

Yak or Galchenyuk were the only two players to consider at #1 overall that year.

I'd take #2/3 Dman at #1. For this club, it's exactly what we need. Free agency hasn't been nice.

Infact if the Oilers somehow get 1st over all this year, I'd be pissed if they didn't take Ekblad

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#105 admiralmark
January 13 2014, 04:38PM
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I think it is a big question mark at this juncture. A lot of it has to do with it being hard to get a read on Yak's mental make up. His interviews are not at all enlightening. I don't blame him for his lack of English. But sometimes i feel he is doing himself a disservice by not having a translator and/or not learning the language so as to get across how he's feeling. Perhaps there is better communication going on between team and player. But from a fans perspective I would be incredibly concerned about this pick. To my eye he looks about a half season away from jumping over to the KHL.

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#106 S cottV
January 13 2014, 04:56PM
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They should have traded the pick to someone desperate for scoring and willing to give up a substance piece - like a proven top 3 d man and a draft pick.

Murray probably too risky as a young d man to take a chance on and Galchenyuk too soft for what is really needed in 2C.

With a fairly soft RNH in 1C, you need to follow him up with a Backes-like tank in 2C, particularly in the Pacific division.

Now the Oilers are stuck trying to teach this quirky, small winger how to play the game and I dont think he will ever fully get it. A top team would not even be able to justify him in the line up because he would have to play top 6. Could you imagine Yak being coached by nuts and bolts guys like Sutter or Torts?

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#107 pelhem grenville
January 13 2014, 05:52PM
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64 is 9-8-17 -28 in 45 games...some say ah give him a chance ...others say he's had bad coaching ...he was a NUMBER ONE PICK OVERALL!!!

when will he make an end to this mediocrity...

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#108 Zarny
January 13 2014, 06:08PM
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pkam wrote:

Colorado needs defense nearly as much as the Oilers and they passed on Jones to take Mackinon. I can understand that Mackinon is probably a better player than Jones long term.

Panthers already have some defense prospects and needs a center more so it may explain why.

But I think Tampa really need some defense and even they pass on Jones.

Which makes me to believe if there are players of equal talents, most teams will picks centers first, then wings before defense and goalie because forwards develop faster and are less risky.

Buffalo just sent Grigorenko down to the juniors and some argue that neither he and Hodgson are true no 1 center.

Calgary only have one top center in Monahan, they are still in need of another one.

I am not saying Ekblad will be available for 3rd or 4th picks, I just say he may after watching what happened last year.

I don't disagree with anything you said. Legit #1 C and franchise D are equally as rare but a flashy forward sells more tickets (Col, Fla, TB, Buf).

I certainly won't be upset if the Oilers get Ekblad; but he's 3-5 years away from being a top pairing D. Same for Nurse.

I just don't see waiting for D prospects as the solution. At least not the best one. Nurse-Ekblad would be a great bookend. I get it. I'd rather see the pick traded for a top D who is already mature.

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#109 Josh Oiler
January 13 2014, 07:19PM
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I think ZARNY hates YAKUPOV even more now that he's a Muslim.

ZARNY you shouldn't hate because of someones color or religion. It is 2014 after all!

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#110 John Kirsch
January 13 2014, 07:21PM
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The fact of the matter is that Yak shouldn't be playing in the NHL right now. Whether or not he is a bust or not is to be determined- it is too early to tell.

Everyone who gives a rat --- about the Oilers is simply frustrated with ownership down about the player personal moves over the last decade, hence the "venting".

Besides being a Oilers fan I follow The NY Jets and sadly I can see a lot of the systemic issues and utter dysfunctionality that again comes from the top down year in and year out form both orgs. I feel bad for the fans who in the end JUST want a competitive team with a chance to compete against the Pacific's best year in and year out.

Oilers should go and recruit player personal and management people from winning organizations much like successful NFL organizations have done.

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#111 EHH Team
January 13 2014, 11:12PM
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RexHolez wrote:

Quick question.... Why would Ekblad go in the top 2 when Seth Jones slipped to 7th last year??

Because he might be better.

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#112 OilFanInVan
January 14 2014, 12:49AM
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The point of the articles was not to debate the better pick (nobody will know that answer for 5 more years) rather it was to debate who is calling the shots...

I think it's baffling that everyone is mentioning Katz as making the pick when in all likely hood it was Kevin Lowe. If Katz said anything it's because KLowe told him too...

Until Katz grows a pair (without KLowe's permission) this team will forever spin in a downward spiral because 6 Rings is, self admittedly, in on every decision of this team.

The 6 ring circus needs to stop and take the entire circus out of town. It starts with KLowe and ends with Eakins. Get a real PHOP, let that person hire a real GM. Let that GM hire a real coach. The the coach hire real assistants.

The culture needs a 180, and it starts at the top.

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#113 MessyEH
January 14 2014, 02:08AM
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Name 3 1st overall picks who ddeveloped in the minors. better yet name 1 fwd drafted 1st over all who developed in the minors.

When you draft 1st overall your team socks. You need that player in the line up.

Eakins is to blame. Lowe is to be fired.

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#114 Micbilly99
January 13 2014, 03:09PM
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@Everyday I'm Byfuglien

Like these two will ever see the NHL. When Yakupov was or was not take is not relevant.

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#115 OilClog
January 13 2014, 03:56PM
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Who would ever take anyone but Yakupov 1st overall. Absolute madness. Anyone that would of took Murray 1st is now on the opposite list in management. Anything they suggest, opposite!!!

Murray is playing with a partner in Columbus that Edmonton has no comparables to provide. Nurse is better then Murray, let alone Yakupov.

If next year Yakupov is still struggling then I'll start to worry. This is his real first season in the NHL. Watch his game from here until the end of the season resemble more like last years ending.

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#116 S cottV
January 13 2014, 04:01PM
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We have to eventually surpass teams like Anaheim, Los Angelas, San Jose and Vancouver for a playoff spot.

The only way we do it - is if guys like Yak were playing on those teams....

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#117 pkam
January 13 2014, 04:25PM
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Zarny wrote:

Their first 20 games means they won't likely leapfrog many but they will finish ahead of Calgary and Buffalo for sure and they probably only have to be a few games above 0.500 the rest of the way to catch Florida, NYI and Winnipeg.

Even if they draft 3rd Ekblad is off the board.

Even if Calgary and Sabres drafted before us, we still have a good chance.

Everyone knows Sabres is loaded with defense prospects so they probably will go for a center.

We all know Calgary is very weak down the middle so they may also choose a center than defense as well.

With Samuel Bennett, Sam Reinhart and Draisaitl 3 potential 1st line center in the top 4, I am not totally convinced that Ekblad will be gone in the 1st and 2nd.

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#118 Zarny
January 13 2014, 07:33PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

‘Krueger did absolutely nothing in response to a 10 game losing streak last year and coached the team to 26th in a shortened season where they were falling at the end.’

How is having a depleted & injured team and in a playoff position Krueger’s fault? Honest question?

How is that the coach’s fault?

That was Tambellini failing to act instead Tambellini reacted far too late for Krueger to do anything about it.

I respectfully disagree that Eakins isn’t the problem.

Krueger did more with arguable a worse team.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Matt-Henderson/The-Krueger-Line/191/57162

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2014/01/13/ralph-kruegers-oilers-vs-dallas-eakins-oilers/

LMAO...a depleted and injured team in a playoff position?

None of the top players were injured last year: Hall (45), Eberle (48), Gagner (48), Yakupov (48), Schutlz (48) were available almost every game and Nuge only missed 8 games.

The Oilers have been injured far more this year than during Krueger's tenure. And at least the 4th line and the D had some NHL experience last year.

How is that Eakin's fault? Honest question.

From the hockeybuzz article:

"Under Krueger Dubnyk had a .920sv% and a GAA of 2.57...Under Eakins Dubnyk’s performance has fallen off the face of the Earth with a .894sv% and GAA of 3.36".

Dubnyk pretty much accounts for the differences alone. Is that Eakins' fault?

I don't think Krueger did a bad job; but he wasn't that great. And he literally did nothing during the losing streak. Changed nothing. Just a stunned look on his face. Which yes, Eakins has sometimes too.

Because the reality is you can't coach around the holes on this team.

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#119 Zarny
January 13 2014, 07:37PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

Yak City lead the Oilers in goals last year.. In his rookie season playing decent minutes.

Yakupov's TOI/game 2014 - 14:23

Yakupov's TOI/game 2014 - 14:33

Yak averaged an extra 10 seconds on the ice per game last year.

Try again.

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#120 RexHolez
January 13 2014, 10:13PM
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Quick question.... Why would Ekblad go in the top 2 when Seth Jones slipped to 7th last year??

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#121 Zarny
January 13 2014, 11:36PM
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Cold Hard Truth wrote:

How do you explain the obvious regress of our power play, then?

2012 - 34 PPG in 169 PPO

2013 - 30 PPG in 166 PPO

The "regression" amounts to 4 G.

Explanation? Gagner's mangled jaw.

Last year Gagner played all 48 games and played well. He had 4 PPG 11 PPA 15 PPPTs. This year he's got 4 A after missing 13 games and playing half his games with a face-shield.

The PP% this year is hurt by a brutal start when Gagner was on the shelf. When the difference is 4 G that's all it takes.

Context is a beautiful thing.

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#122 K_Mart
January 14 2014, 12:29AM
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Off topic... this year hall's scoring chance numbers for and against have been atrocious for the first time in ... ever?

What is causing this?

His line's possessions are often one and done, and when the opposition gains our zone it almost always results in a multichance scenario.

For a good 10 game stretch I noticed hall start to back check hard and strip the opposition of the puck, but he's already reverted back to his old habits and the back checks have stopped.

Eberle, Nuge, Hall, Gagner, and Yak are all guilty of giving up on a back check if there is no chance that they catch the forward, or if they think another forward on their line has a step on them and they need to stay back for a quick turnaround or to cover the opposition's D at the point in our end. I see this all the time with these guys. And worse yet, the odd time that they do back check hard, they quit right as they catch up to the puck carrier and they try a really half assed poke check that never works.

This is something that these guys need to learn... right now. Even if you have absolutely zero chance of catching the puck carrier, you'd be surprised how often a little back pressure can help your d stand a guy up and the blue line. Not only that, but even if you are a few steps behind the carrier, often times your defensemen will often slow them down as they enter the zone, allowing you an opportunity to strip them of the puck before their team can get set up or at the very least gain a few more steps on them in that moment. When you see one of your linemates poised to be the first forward back, then it becomes your job to beat the support, which still requires hard back checking. This will make the zone entry and possession that much harder to establish every time. If our young guys want more time in the offensive zone and less time aimlessly wandering around in their own end, make a bigger effort to prevent the zone entry and possession set up in the first place. Most people reading this should think... well duh captain obvious, but yet these pro's often refuse to do it. It's clear that we have trouble defending once a top team is set up in our end. But we have the speed and skill to get back and make it really difficult for them to set up in the first place.

Everyone who's ever played hockey knows they've decided not to backcheck at least a couple times because there really was no possible way of catching up with the puck carrier, but to see pro's do it with such regularity is sickening. Move your ass, and protect the house. Stop letting the other team enter our zone with such ease. This is just a drop in the bucket of problems with this team, but it's a simple fundamental of hockey that most 8 year old hockey players are aware of. And it's also something that has really creeped in to Eberle and Gagner's games as of late. Hall isn't tracking so well either in this regard.

It's much easier for your defensemen to strip an oncoming forward of the puck if you are on that guy's tail with some solid back pressure. The benefits of a hard back check are many, and the problems caused by refusing to do it are many more. If you're able to skate that hard WITH the puck, you should be able to skate even harder without it. Tired of this simple problem always creeping in to the game. And it's not like these guys aren't aware of this, it's just that they are so desperate for offense that they hope the d men will create a quick turnover so they can get an odd man rush. Not sure if they've noticed yet, but our d can't exactly stand up top teams at the blue line with any regularity. You have to get back there. You always hear pros say that in order to get out of a slump they just simplify their game... well.. this is one of the simplest fundamentals of hockey, so frikkin' do it.

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#123 pkam
January 13 2014, 05:19PM
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Zarny wrote:

Hey Seth Jones dropped to 4th so nothing is impossible. If picks were solely based on hockey I'd say no chance; but selling tickets is part of the equation (see Yakupov).

None of Buf D prospects are in the same ballpark as Ekblad. Buf will likely ship Ehrhoff and Myers out of town shortly, and they also have Hodgson and Grigorenko.

Calgary drafted Monahan last year. Reinhart's brother is already with the Flames and they could go for a C regardless; but I have a feeling Burke goes for Ekblad if he's available.

Florida drafted Barkov last year so if the Oilers manage to jump ahead I see them going D too. If they catch NYI I expect they go with Ekblad if available since they already have Tavares.

And if one of the bottom feeders doesn't win the lottery it's more likely the team picking #1 will already have a 1st line center.

And regardless, if Ekblad is available I'd rather see the Oilers the package the pick to Phx for OEL or something like that.

Colorado needs defense nearly as much as the Oilers and they passed on Jones to take Mackinon. I can understand that Mackinon is probably a better player than Jones long term.

Panthers already have some defense prospects and needs a center more so it may explain why.

But I think Tampa really need some defense and even they pass on Jones.

Which makes me to believe if there are players of equal talents, most teams will picks centers first, then wings before defense and goalie because forwards develop faster and are less risky.

Buffalo just sent Grigorenko down to the juniors and some argue that neither he and Hodgson are true no 1 center.

Calgary only have one top center in Monahan, they are still in need of another one.

I am not saying Ekblad will be available for 3rd or 4th picks, I just say he may after watching what happened last year.

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#124 Tuningout
January 13 2014, 06:25PM
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Impartial Oilers Fan wrote:

@Lowetide

I don't understand why fans and bloggers like Lowetide or mc79hockey defend Yakupov and go out of their way to pump his tires.

I find it troubling when even the Russian Olympic team didn't take Yakupov, yet they took apparently inferior KHL players (I guess based on experience), but they also took Valeri Nichushkin (18 years old, so there goes the experience theory). Plus, they can't have any anti Russian bias like great YakCity fan clubs says is the only thing critics have against him.

So if the Russian team and Eakins are seeing the same deficiencies in his game, why is it that fans and bloggers don't give any credence to the theory that maybe, just maybe, he's not as good as hoped? I believe that's a fair question and look forward to the responses that are logical, not just the ones that scream YakCity and say he can shoot a puck real hard.

I wonder how much consideration the Russian team put into Yakupov saying last year he wasn't Russian.

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#125 justDOit
January 13 2014, 06:51PM
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Lochenzo wrote:

I now know what's it feels like to be a Lambourghini enthusiast complaining about having TWO Diablos in the garage.

On the one hand, you may ask why do you have two Diablos. On the other hand, you may want to smack the guy upside the head and say, is that what you're really complaining about!

It's the $7000 tuneups every 15k that are a bitch about the Diablo!

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#126 **
January 13 2014, 06:51PM
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Quinn the Eskimo wrote:

"Are we really second guessing draft picks less than 1 season into an NHL career" No, we are discussing the propriety of the owner making the picks. I'm against it.

I'm not against Yakupov, I think he is going ot be a superstar. I'm against Oilers ownership and management not making the best decision for the team. Yakupov was not what the team needed.

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#127 Max
January 13 2014, 06:59PM
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Yak should have been sent to the minors rather than immediately be put on the team - time to be a bit more mature and to learn some more English. For all you Yak lovers, did you not SEE what he did against the Pens?? He circled the net TWICE, puck hogging, making NO EFFORT to pass to a team-mate or shoot. Doesn't that tell us all something. He reminds me of a Russian version of O'mark, puck hog/prima donna.

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#128 Cold Hard Truth
January 13 2014, 10:53PM
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Zarny wrote:

The last 6 words...Dubnyk is having a bad year. You hit the nail on the head.

Explain Bryz? He had a 2.79 GAA and 0.900 SV% in Phi last year. He's just not that good. Par for the course.

I said Nuge missed 8 games last year. Hall missed 3 and their 3rd line C Horcoff missed 16. Eberle played every game. So did Gagner, Yak and Schultz.

This year Nuge missed 2, Hall 7, Perron 4, Eberle 1, Schultz 8, Yak 3 and their 2nd line C Gagner has missed 13 while playing 10 with an injured jaw. So injuries have been worse this year.

I agree the defense was garbage both years. The depth on both rosters is atrocious.

The difference between last year and this year however, is not coaching. Dubnyk lost 4-5 games on his own to start the year. That isn't coaching. That's folding under pressure. If the Oilers go 8-10-2 over the first 20 games they are basically where they were last year with more key injuries.

How do you explain the obvious regress of our power play, then?

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#129 john
January 14 2014, 02:10AM
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A coach is like a teacher, if your kids at school lose interest in a subject, the teacher tell him he is useless go sit in a corner. The kid doesn't get to play in reset, wouldn't you as parents be mad as hell? A coach need to teach and inspire his players, I can teach a cat to come to me when I call it ( tell it to sit, the cat sit like as a dog would ), why the hell Eakin cannot teach these players? Eakin insulted Nazem Kadri when he played for the Marlies (called him fat at training camp), if he is out of shape then whip him into shape. Eakin is screwing up Yakupov's developement, benching the guy? Why can't Eakin coach him and the rest of the team? Justin Schulz and Hall kept making mistakes and so many giveaways each game but they are not benched? Gagner broke his jaws, he cannot eat foods for a month, can't blame him for not up to par after he joined the team. Coach them and let them have fun, score some goals, play defense as a team. Forget about Murray from draft 2 years ago, they got Nurse last year, Nurse will be better than Murray down the road. Yakupov is a scorer, most teams would love to have him. Let the guy play, if he make mistakes correct him, the season is over so might as well play for the fans last 30 games or so.

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#130 Bloodsweatandoil
January 14 2014, 06:31AM
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Wow, ON needs a moderator at times, there are some weird and completely ignorant people who should not be around computers!

To the theme of the blog, the scouts picked Murray, management picked Yakupov.

In my opinion, I think management got it right in that aspect, but I think they should have traded Yakupov at that moment for roster needs within the roster. Even if they picked Murray, they should of done the same.

The Oilers are still not better with the top three number ones. Adding more is not going to help either.

This season really magnifies hindsight, I would hope after all these mistakes, a lesson is going to be learned sometime.

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#131 Death Metal Nightmare
January 14 2014, 10:36AM
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yeah, because taking Ryan Murray with the geniuses who run this PoS organization wouldnt have turned into a total clown college pick anyhow. who was he going to play with that made him "look good"? pfff haha . . kid would be -10 or more and have about 5-10 points

TSN just likes to stir up a poop pot on teams that arent MTL, TOR, or VAN. they can F-off for the rest of my hockey interested life.

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#132 Ryan2
January 13 2014, 03:45PM
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The only player the Oilers should have strongly looked at taking ahead of Yak that year is Galchenyuk. If he had not been injured and missed a good chunk of that season they likely would have. I would have taken him instead as you can never have enough top two centermen.

Murray is like going to be a #3 d-man in the end that is good at a lot of things but not great. While every team needs players like that, drafting a #3 d-man first overall is a whiff. In the end Murray will likely not be the best d-man in his class either (in fact, Lindholm is oupacing him now).

Yak or Galchenyuk were the only two players to consider at #1 overall that year.

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#133 Zarny
January 13 2014, 08:39PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Is Dubynk having an off yea? Maybe, but then explain Briz save %?

Both goalies are awful or is that also a coincidence?

RNH was hurt last year! So was Eberle having almost his entire finger ripped off by Yakupov's wrist shot!

Not to mention Tambellini had to bring in Smithson because two centers were injuried!

Krueger defense was also abysmal, which tells me ether Eakins defensive sytem is out to lunch or Dubnyk is having a bad year.

The last 6 words...Dubnyk is having a bad year. You hit the nail on the head.

Explain Bryz? He had a 2.79 GAA and 0.900 SV% in Phi last year. He's just not that good. Par for the course.

I said Nuge missed 8 games last year. Hall missed 3 and their 3rd line C Horcoff missed 16. Eberle played every game. So did Gagner, Yak and Schultz.

This year Nuge missed 2, Hall 7, Perron 4, Eberle 1, Schultz 8, Yak 3 and their 2nd line C Gagner has missed 13 while playing 10 with an injured jaw. So injuries have been worse this year.

I agree the defense was garbage both years. The depth on both rosters is atrocious.

The difference between last year and this year however, is not coaching. Dubnyk lost 4-5 games on his own to start the year. That isn't coaching. That's folding under pressure. If the Oilers go 8-10-2 over the first 20 games they are basically where they were last year with more key injuries.

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#134 Walter Sobchak
January 13 2014, 11:22PM
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Zarny wrote:

The last 6 words...Dubnyk is having a bad year. You hit the nail on the head.

Explain Bryz? He had a 2.79 GAA and 0.900 SV% in Phi last year. He's just not that good. Par for the course.

I said Nuge missed 8 games last year. Hall missed 3 and their 3rd line C Horcoff missed 16. Eberle played every game. So did Gagner, Yak and Schultz.

This year Nuge missed 2, Hall 7, Perron 4, Eberle 1, Schultz 8, Yak 3 and their 2nd line C Gagner has missed 13 while playing 10 with an injured jaw. So injuries have been worse this year.

I agree the defense was garbage both years. The depth on both rosters is atrocious.

The difference between last year and this year however, is not coaching. Dubnyk lost 4-5 games on his own to start the year. That isn't coaching. That's folding under pressure. If the Oilers go 8-10-2 over the first 20 games they are basically where they were last year with more key injuries.

I'm not going to debate the goaltending for a couple reasons, first you make some good points & yes absolutely I think both goalies left games out there, the other reason, is that horse has been beaten to death.

I'm trying to figure out WHY? Why the regression? on paper this should be a much more improved team?

It's got to be bigger then statistics here? The team on paper is an improved team talent wise, they should have been say Dallas good......ya?

So where is the team gone wrong?

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#135 oilbreed
January 14 2014, 03:07AM
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@RexHolez

Aa im pretty sure if jones slipped to 7 the oil would have taken him jones was taken 4th overall are sure your not talking about nurse

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#136 Oiler57
January 14 2014, 06:25AM
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@Primo

Can someone make a chart showing everyone whose left the organization by trade or release and those brought in since 2006. I'd bet its ugly.

For example, Stoll, Greene, Visnovsky all out, Ryan Whitney in...oh wait, he's gone too; so that leaves 0 in return. Smells like good management to me.

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#137 2004Z06
January 14 2014, 09:19AM
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MAYBE DALLAS EAKINS IS A RACIST??

YAK IS A DARK HAIRED - DARK EYED RUSSIAN MUSLIM!

TAYLOR, PERRON, NUGE ETC BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED GOOD OLE CANADIAN KIDS GET THE ICE TIME...

DARE SOMEBODY SAY IT--- THERE YOU GO... EVERONE THINKING IT!!! NOW ITS BEEN SAID.

EVANDER KANE AND WAYNE SIMMONDS BETTER WATCH OUT THEY DONT GET TRADED TO EDM.. THEY MAY BE HEALTHY SCRATCHES EVERY SECOND GAME OR ONLY PLAY 4 MINUTES A GAME LIKE YAKUPOV.

Are you for real?

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#138 2004Z06
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How do you explain the obvious regress of our power play, then?

That is the easiest question of all to answer regarding the Oilers this year.

Every team in the league now knows how to stifle the Oilers power play. Keep them to the outside (they prefer perimeter play and they don't drive the net), keep sticks in the lanes (to cut off the across the front of the net pass), Allow your goalie good sight lines (Oilers never shoot)and pressure the point guys (they will panic and cough up the puck)

A pee wee coach could neutralize our power play!

They are doing exactly the same thing on the PP as they did last year. Old habits die hard!

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#139 BLAKPOO
January 14 2014, 04:28PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

MAYBE DALLAS EAKINS IS A RACIST??

YAK IS A DARK HAIRED - DARK EYED RUSSIAN MUSLIM!

TAYLOR, PERRON, NUGE ETC BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED GOOD OLE CANADIAN KIDS GET THE ICE TIME...

DARE SOMEBODY SAY IT--- THERE YOU GO... EVERONE THINKING IT!!! NOW ITS BEEN SAID.

EVANDER KANE AND WAYNE SIMMONDS BETTER WATCH OUT THEY DONT GET TRADED TO EDM.. THEY MAY BE HEALTHY SCRATCHES EVERY SECOND GAME OR ONLY PLAY 4 MINUTES A GAME LIKE YAKUPOV.

Good work Columbo! You solved the mystery!

You call the NHL, I'll start making bumper stickers..

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#140 Lil Breezy
January 14 2014, 05:03PM
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Once again, eastern media slinging poop on the Oil. I betcha twenty nine teams would trade us murray for yak all day and night.

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#141 Oilcruzer
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RexHolez wrote:

Quick question.... Why would Ekblad go in the top 2 when Seth Jones slipped to 7th last year??

You are getting warmer. Not the right question though.

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#142 Rdubb
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Maybe 45 doesn't make or change things, but Katz has people in place to run the Oilers, and he should leave hockey decisions to the HOCKEY PEOPLE!! If, in fact the story is true and Katz over ruled everyone @ that table on that day, then HE SHOULD stand up and say so. Hell, even I knew Yak shouldn't have been #1, I personally (not to mention others on the site plus "hockey insiders") would have taken the kid that MON took (cannot spell his name w/o looking it - does that make you happy serious gord?), so what if he missed a good chunk of that season, he was by far a better 2-way player and could also put up big numbers, not to mention his position? Yak was the risky pick, but perhaps had the most upside, but one could see that he did love hockey and wanted to play in the NHL, BUT, he wasn't a character kid, not like Murray (who many predict could be an NHL captain in the future) or Galyenchuk. Most times, if the skill level is close, I'd always pick character... Just my thought & opinions PECK

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#143 Truth
January 15 2014, 08:54AM
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What if Murray is the next Cam Barker?

Let's have this conversation in 5 years.

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