THE YAKUPOV SELECTION

Lowetide
January 13 2014 01:53PM

 

The Edmonton Oilers selection of Nail Yakupov No. 1 overall in the 2012 NHL Entry draft remains a story 18 months later. For one reason or another, the Yak City pick hasn't settled in like the Hall and Nuge drafts. The story got a little publicity this morning, and one wonders if we'll be dealing with it for years. 

OCTOBER 2013—CONFIRMED

Bob McKenzie confirmed a well known Edmonton rumor in October, tweeting out that the "majority of Edmonton scouts wanted Murray, and the decision to take Yakupov came from a higher authority. 

The story came up this morning when I was on the air at TSN 1260, and I wanted to mention it today. The push from media came courtesy Eric Duhatschek

  • Lots of people in Edmonton believe that owner Darryl Katz had some significant input into the decision to draft Nail Yakupov first overall in 2012 rather than opt for the safer choice, defenceman Ryan Murray, who would have filled a greater organizational need. With every passing day, that decision looks more and more suspect. Murray was limited to 23 games with the Everett Silvertips last year because of major knee surgery, but even as an NHL rookie, has looked good on the Columbus defence, playing a lot with James Wisniewski and providing the defensive presence on that pair. What if Murray turns out to be Alex Pietrangelo good – and they left him on the table to draft another offensive player, of which they had plenty already? How do you assess blame there? Or maybe they already have, since the GM that called Yakupov’s name, Steve Tambellini, is no longer running the show.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

I find the conversation surprising. Although there's no doubt Nail Yakupov has struggled this season, Mr. Duhatschek's story is the first time "blame" has been mentioned. Presumptive? Certainly, but it's out there now, and should Nail Yakupov not deliver on promise, the scouting staff would appear to be free and clear. 

I'd still bet on Yakupov. All day. 

In a period where Oilers owner Daryl Katz is taking some heat for his team's won-loss record, perhaps fans need to be reminded that (reportedly) his draft day decisions are very likely to deliver. It remains very risky to take defensemen at #1 overall, and 45 NHL games don't change that at all. 

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#101 Lil Breezy
January 14 2014, 05:03PM
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Once again, eastern media slinging poop on the Oil. I betcha twenty nine teams would trade us murray for yak all day and night.

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#102 sizzay
January 13 2014, 02:46PM
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Yakupov was #1 on all lists. He had great offensive numbers and a game breaking shot.

I don't know why people think Murray was the safe pick. Defensemen are hard to predict and there is historical evidence showing that.

Galchenyuk would've been a risky pick as well. He played 3 games in his draft year. 3 games. We knew Yakupov could score without Galchenyuk, we didn't have evidence of Gally scoring without Yakupov until AFTER the draft.

Yakupov put up excellent offensive numbers in his 2 years in the OHL. The only issue is his use and adjustment to the pro game. He shows flashes of brilliance, I'd be worried if there were no flashes.

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#103 oilcountryforlife
January 13 2014, 03:07PM
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@Micbilly99

Agreed...not going to happen however with subpar assistant coaches like Acton, Buchberger, and Smith...three products of Lowe idiocy.

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#104 Walter Sobchak
January 13 2014, 03:12PM
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Yakupov, I tend to think it gives MSM something to write about, and for the most part people become short sighted and fail to see the bigger picture, we’ve seen this before with players like Spezza, Bobby Ryan and even to some extent Duchene.

Its clear Yakupov had trouble adjusting to Eakins style & Eakins handling of Yakupov at times has been questionable but give the kid a couple years before we really judge a 20 year old kid.

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#105 Lochenzo
January 13 2014, 03:42PM
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The only player I may have taken over Yakupov was Galchenyuk because he's a tall centre. We just didn't know enough about him because of all the time he missed with his knee injury.

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#106 Ryan2
January 13 2014, 03:45PM
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The only player the Oilers should have strongly looked at taking ahead of Yak that year is Galchenyuk. If he had not been injured and missed a good chunk of that season they likely would have. I would have taken him instead as you can never have enough top two centermen.

Murray is like going to be a #3 d-man in the end that is good at a lot of things but not great. While every team needs players like that, drafting a #3 d-man first overall is a whiff. In the end Murray will likely not be the best d-man in his class either (in fact, Lindholm is oupacing him now).

Yak or Galchenyuk were the only two players to consider at #1 overall that year.

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#107 Zarny
January 13 2014, 05:04PM
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pkam wrote:

Even if Calgary and Sabres drafted before us, we still have a good chance.

Everyone knows Sabres is loaded with defense prospects so they probably will go for a center.

We all know Calgary is very weak down the middle so they may also choose a center than defense as well.

With Samuel Bennett, Sam Reinhart and Draisaitl 3 potential 1st line center in the top 4, I am not totally convinced that Ekblad will be gone in the 1st and 2nd.

Hey Seth Jones dropped to 4th so nothing is impossible. If picks were solely based on hockey I'd say no chance; but selling tickets is part of the equation (see Yakupov).

None of Buf D prospects are in the same ballpark as Ekblad. Buf will likely ship Ehrhoff and Myers out of town shortly, and they also have Hodgson and Grigorenko.

Calgary drafted Monahan last year. Reinhart's brother is already with the Flames and they could go for a C regardless; but I have a feeling Burke goes for Ekblad if he's available.

Florida drafted Barkov last year so if the Oilers manage to jump ahead I see them going D too. If they catch NYI I expect they go with Ekblad if available since they already have Tavares.

And if one of the bottom feeders doesn't win the lottery it's more likely the team picking #1 will already have a 1st line center.

And regardless, if Ekblad is available I'd rather see the Oilers the package the pick to Phx for OEL or something like that.

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#108 etownman
January 13 2014, 05:05PM
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Yak all the way baby! That one timer from a 20 yr old is a natural scorer! They don't come along often & when 6'5" Yakimov signs & makes the Oilers it'll be Yak from Yak.....& don't look back!

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#109 SRELIOFAN
January 13 2014, 05:53PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

Sure Murray would have addressed an organizational need better but I'm confident that Yakupov will be by far the best of that draft class in years to come. Drafting defense and goalies for that matter 1st overall rarely works out.

Very true. Example: Cam Barker??

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#110 Zarny
January 13 2014, 06:08PM
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pkam wrote:

Colorado needs defense nearly as much as the Oilers and they passed on Jones to take Mackinon. I can understand that Mackinon is probably a better player than Jones long term.

Panthers already have some defense prospects and needs a center more so it may explain why.

But I think Tampa really need some defense and even they pass on Jones.

Which makes me to believe if there are players of equal talents, most teams will picks centers first, then wings before defense and goalie because forwards develop faster and are less risky.

Buffalo just sent Grigorenko down to the juniors and some argue that neither he and Hodgson are true no 1 center.

Calgary only have one top center in Monahan, they are still in need of another one.

I am not saying Ekblad will be available for 3rd or 4th picks, I just say he may after watching what happened last year.

I don't disagree with anything you said. Legit #1 C and franchise D are equally as rare but a flashy forward sells more tickets (Col, Fla, TB, Buf).

I certainly won't be upset if the Oilers get Ekblad; but he's 3-5 years away from being a top pairing D. Same for Nurse.

I just don't see waiting for D prospects as the solution. At least not the best one. Nurse-Ekblad would be a great bookend. I get it. I'd rather see the pick traded for a top D who is already mature.

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#111 Tuningout
January 13 2014, 06:25PM
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@Lowetide

I don't understand why fans and bloggers like Lowetide or mc79hockey defend Yakupov and go out of their way to pump his tires.

I find it troubling when even the Russian Olympic team didn't take Yakupov, yet they took apparently inferior KHL players (I guess based on experience), but they also took Valeri Nichushkin (18 years old, so there goes the experience theory). Plus, they can't have any anti Russian bias like great YakCity fan clubs says is the only thing critics have against him.

So if the Russian team and Eakins are seeing the same deficiencies in his game, why is it that fans and bloggers don't give any credence to the theory that maybe, just maybe, he's not as good as hoped? I believe that's a fair question and look forward to the responses that are logical, not just the ones that scream YakCity and say he can shoot a puck real hard.

I wonder how much consideration the Russian team put into Yakupov saying last year he wasn't Russian.

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#112 pkam
January 13 2014, 06:31PM
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Zarny wrote:

I don't disagree with anything you said. Legit #1 C and franchise D are equally as rare but a flashy forward sells more tickets (Col, Fla, TB, Buf).

I certainly won't be upset if the Oilers get Ekblad; but he's 3-5 years away from being a top pairing D. Same for Nurse.

I just don't see waiting for D prospects as the solution. At least not the best one. Nurse-Ekblad would be a great bookend. I get it. I'd rather see the pick traded for a top D who is already mature.

I am not debating whether the Oilers should pick Ekblad or not, I am just pointing out that it is very possible that Ekblad will still be available at 3rd or 4th.

I believe forwards can develop faster and are less risky than defense and that is why teams feel more comfortable to draft forward over defense.

If both Ekblad and Draisaitl is still available, I'll be tempted to pick Draisaitl over Ekblad for the same reason I list above. If both Monahan and Nurse were available, I'll take Monahan over Nurse.

My bet is the Flames will take a center over Ekblad this year. They already have Giordano, Wideman and Brodie, not the best defense core but much better than ours. They will need a center more than we do.

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#113 Walter Sobchak
January 13 2014, 06:36PM
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Zarny wrote:

$220/ounce.

Krueger did absolutely nothing in response to a 10 game losing streak last year and coached the team to 26th in a shortened season where they were falling at the end.

The first 20 games certainly mean the Oilers won't leapfrog many teams.

However, from games 21-43 the Oilers were 9-11-3 with 21 pts. Only 26th over that span but also within 2 pts of a playoff spot. The Oil were better than Cgy, Buf, NYI and Min over that stretch and within 2 pts of Dallas, Ottawa, Winnipeg, NJ, Phoenix, Toronto and Nashville.

Eakins wasn't the problem with the Oilers. Starting the season with both the 1C and 2C on IR was the problem. A 4th line with no NHL experience was the problem. Half the D with no NHL experience was the problem. Dubnyk letting in beachballs from the blueline was the problem. All the kids you are relying on averaging 120 games experience was the problem.

The first 20 games has caused a lot of fans to completely lose touch with reality.

‘Krueger did absolutely nothing in response to a 10 game losing streak last year and coached the team to 26th in a shortened season where they were falling at the end.’

How is having a depleted & injured team and in a playoff position Krueger’s fault? Honest question?

How is that the coach’s fault?

That was Tambellini failing to act instead Tambellini reacted far too late for Krueger to do anything about it.

I respectfully disagree that Eakins isn’t the problem.

Krueger did more with arguable a worse team.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Matt-Henderson/The-Krueger-Line/191/57162

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2014/01/13/ralph-kruegers-oilers-vs-dallas-eakins-oilers/

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#114 kale
January 13 2014, 07:04PM
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@Zarny

Yakupov went into detail about what his Muslim faith means for his hockey career,

This is from Andrey's post last June. Reet the bar.

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#115 John Kirsch
January 13 2014, 07:21PM
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The fact of the matter is that Yak shouldn't be playing in the NHL right now. Whether or not he is a bust or not is to be determined- it is too early to tell.

Everyone who gives a rat --- about the Oilers is simply frustrated with ownership down about the player personal moves over the last decade, hence the "venting".

Besides being a Oilers fan I follow The NY Jets and sadly I can see a lot of the systemic issues and utter dysfunctionality that again comes from the top down year in and year out form both orgs. I feel bad for the fans who in the end JUST want a competitive team with a chance to compete against the Pacific's best year in and year out.

Oilers should go and recruit player personal and management people from winning organizations much like successful NFL organizations have done.

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#116 Walter Sobchak
January 13 2014, 07:45PM
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Zarny wrote:

LMAO...a depleted and injured team in a playoff position?

None of the top players were injured last year: Hall (45), Eberle (48), Gagner (48), Yakupov (48), Schutlz (48) were available almost every game and Nuge only missed 8 games.

The Oilers have been injured far more this year than during Krueger's tenure. And at least the 4th line and the D had some NHL experience last year.

How is that Eakin's fault? Honest question.

From the hockeybuzz article:

"Under Krueger Dubnyk had a .920sv% and a GAA of 2.57...Under Eakins Dubnyk’s performance has fallen off the face of the Earth with a .894sv% and GAA of 3.36".

Dubnyk pretty much accounts for the differences alone. Is that Eakins' fault?

I don't think Krueger did a bad job; but he wasn't that great. And he literally did nothing during the losing streak. Changed nothing. Just a stunned look on his face. Which yes, Eakins has sometimes too.

Because the reality is you can't coach around the holes on this team.

Is Dubynk having an off yea? Maybe, but then explain Briz save %?

Both goalies are awful or is that also a coincidence?

RNH was hurt last year! So was Eberle having almost his entire finger ripped off by Yakupov's wrist shot!

Not to mention Tambellini had to bring in Smithson because two centers were injuried!

Krueger defense was also abysmal, which tells me ether Eakins defensive sytem is out to lunch or Dubnyk is having a bad year.

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#117 Primo
January 13 2014, 07:52PM
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It's a sad day when the Oiler fans are forced to discard an entire 82 game season year in and year out but only look forward to one day and one day only...draft day!

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#118 Brian
January 13 2014, 08:14PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

MAYBE DALLAS EAKINS IS A RACIST??

YAK IS A DARK HAIRED - DARK EYED RUSSIAN MUSLIM!

TAYLOR, PERRON, NUGE ETC BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED GOOD OLE CANADIAN KIDS GET THE ICE TIME...

DARE SOMEBODY SAY IT--- THERE YOU GO... EVERONE THINKING IT!!! NOW ITS BEEN SAID.

EVANDER KANE AND WAYNE SIMMONDS BETTER WATCH OUT THEY DONT GET TRADED TO EDM.. THEY MAY BE HEALTHY SCRATCHES EVERY SECOND GAME OR ONLY PLAY 4 MINUTES A GAME LIKE YAKUPOV.

Josh , I just saw this post of yours. You need to lie down in a dark room, don't touch anything sharp, and in the morning call for help. You are ill buddy and there is help out there . Find it.

RNH will be very surprised to learn he is a blond.

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#119 Kr55
January 13 2014, 09:25PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Is Dubynk having an off yea? Maybe, but then explain Briz save %?

Both goalies are awful or is that also a coincidence?

RNH was hurt last year! So was Eberle having almost his entire finger ripped off by Yakupov's wrist shot!

Not to mention Tambellini had to bring in Smithson because two centers were injuried!

Krueger defense was also abysmal, which tells me ether Eakins defensive sytem is out to lunch or Dubnyk is having a bad year.

Yeah, some people have a short memory about the injuries Krueger had to deal with last season. We went on a run where we were losing a center almost every night. Plus Nuge could barely hit the net with weak shots because of his messed up shoulder. Playing only the West as well, last season was just a painful grind.

Only really bad injury Eakins has had is Gags being out, but that actually went in Eakins' favor because Arco played way better than Gags would have in his place. When Gags came back Eakins made the team worse by demoting Arco to make room.

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#120 Cold Hard Truth
January 13 2014, 10:53PM
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Zarny wrote:

The last 6 words...Dubnyk is having a bad year. You hit the nail on the head.

Explain Bryz? He had a 2.79 GAA and 0.900 SV% in Phi last year. He's just not that good. Par for the course.

I said Nuge missed 8 games last year. Hall missed 3 and their 3rd line C Horcoff missed 16. Eberle played every game. So did Gagner, Yak and Schultz.

This year Nuge missed 2, Hall 7, Perron 4, Eberle 1, Schultz 8, Yak 3 and their 2nd line C Gagner has missed 13 while playing 10 with an injured jaw. So injuries have been worse this year.

I agree the defense was garbage both years. The depth on both rosters is atrocious.

The difference between last year and this year however, is not coaching. Dubnyk lost 4-5 games on his own to start the year. That isn't coaching. That's folding under pressure. If the Oilers go 8-10-2 over the first 20 games they are basically where they were last year with more key injuries.

How do you explain the obvious regress of our power play, then?

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#121 Rod from Viking
January 13 2014, 11:21PM
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I just finished the Oiler season ticket survey, it actually was pretty good, they had two places where you got 750 words to make comments about how you felt.I had to do a lot of abbreviating.I hope everyone took the time to say the same things they post on here.

As far as Yak goes the team had to know he had some defensive short comings and should be doing a better job working with him.I am not going to go on hind-site,I wanted a big center(Galynchuk) and Yak was my second choice, they drafted him and I was fine with it. He is not like the rest of the young guns when it comes to the night life etc and his family is in Edmonton with him. I think with a little coaching and maturity he will score a lot of big goals for hopefully this team. Move Gagner and Hemsky and bring in a big veteran two way center to play with Yak and he will be fine.

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#122 Walter Sobchak
January 13 2014, 11:22PM
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Zarny wrote:

The last 6 words...Dubnyk is having a bad year. You hit the nail on the head.

Explain Bryz? He had a 2.79 GAA and 0.900 SV% in Phi last year. He's just not that good. Par for the course.

I said Nuge missed 8 games last year. Hall missed 3 and their 3rd line C Horcoff missed 16. Eberle played every game. So did Gagner, Yak and Schultz.

This year Nuge missed 2, Hall 7, Perron 4, Eberle 1, Schultz 8, Yak 3 and their 2nd line C Gagner has missed 13 while playing 10 with an injured jaw. So injuries have been worse this year.

I agree the defense was garbage both years. The depth on both rosters is atrocious.

The difference between last year and this year however, is not coaching. Dubnyk lost 4-5 games on his own to start the year. That isn't coaching. That's folding under pressure. If the Oilers go 8-10-2 over the first 20 games they are basically where they were last year with more key injuries.

I'm not going to debate the goaltending for a couple reasons, first you make some good points & yes absolutely I think both goalies left games out there, the other reason, is that horse has been beaten to death.

I'm trying to figure out WHY? Why the regression? on paper this should be a much more improved team?

It's got to be bigger then statistics here? The team on paper is an improved team talent wise, they should have been say Dallas good......ya?

So where is the team gone wrong?

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#123 oilbreed
January 14 2014, 03:07AM
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@RexHolez

Aa im pretty sure if jones slipped to 7 the oil would have taken him jones was taken 4th overall are sure your not talking about nurse

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#124 Oiler57
January 14 2014, 06:25AM
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@Primo

Can someone make a chart showing everyone whose left the organization by trade or release and those brought in since 2006. I'd bet its ugly.

For example, Stoll, Greene, Visnovsky all out, Ryan Whitney in...oh wait, he's gone too; so that leaves 0 in return. Smells like good management to me.

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#125 mlselli
January 14 2014, 08:52AM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

MAYBE DALLAS EAKINS IS A RACIST??

YAK IS A DARK HAIRED - DARK EYED RUSSIAN MUSLIM!

TAYLOR, PERRON, NUGE ETC BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED GOOD OLE CANADIAN KIDS GET THE ICE TIME...

DARE SOMEBODY SAY IT--- THERE YOU GO... EVERONE THINKING IT!!! NOW ITS BEEN SAID.

EVANDER KANE AND WAYNE SIMMONDS BETTER WATCH OUT THEY DONT GET TRADED TO EDM.. THEY MAY BE HEALTHY SCRATCHES EVERY SECOND GAME OR ONLY PLAY 4 MINUTES A GAME LIKE YAKUPOV.

You are one offensive A55H0LE. You need to be banned from this site. You are the only one bringing up nationality, religion and race, so it seem to me you're the hater. Grow up and get a life bigot!!!!

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#126 2004Z06
January 14 2014, 09:19AM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

MAYBE DALLAS EAKINS IS A RACIST??

YAK IS A DARK HAIRED - DARK EYED RUSSIAN MUSLIM!

TAYLOR, PERRON, NUGE ETC BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED GOOD OLE CANADIAN KIDS GET THE ICE TIME...

DARE SOMEBODY SAY IT--- THERE YOU GO... EVERONE THINKING IT!!! NOW ITS BEEN SAID.

EVANDER KANE AND WAYNE SIMMONDS BETTER WATCH OUT THEY DONT GET TRADED TO EDM.. THEY MAY BE HEALTHY SCRATCHES EVERY SECOND GAME OR ONLY PLAY 4 MINUTES A GAME LIKE YAKUPOV.

Are you for real?

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#127 BLAKPOO
January 14 2014, 04:28PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

MAYBE DALLAS EAKINS IS A RACIST??

YAK IS A DARK HAIRED - DARK EYED RUSSIAN MUSLIM!

TAYLOR, PERRON, NUGE ETC BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED GOOD OLE CANADIAN KIDS GET THE ICE TIME...

DARE SOMEBODY SAY IT--- THERE YOU GO... EVERONE THINKING IT!!! NOW ITS BEEN SAID.

EVANDER KANE AND WAYNE SIMMONDS BETTER WATCH OUT THEY DONT GET TRADED TO EDM.. THEY MAY BE HEALTHY SCRATCHES EVERY SECOND GAME OR ONLY PLAY 4 MINUTES A GAME LIKE YAKUPOV.

Good work Columbo! You solved the mystery!

You call the NHL, I'll start making bumper stickers..

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#128 Truth
January 15 2014, 08:54AM
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What if Murray is the next Cam Barker?

Let's have this conversation in 5 years.

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#129 rickithebear
January 13 2014, 03:58PM
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Last 10 years: 19-20 year old Goals per game rates. 1. Ovechkin .64

5. Hall .39

6. Skinner .31

7. P. Kane .28; Radulov .28; t. Ruuto .28; Yakupov .28

12. Benn .27

14. Eberle .26; Landeskog .26

16. Kessel .21

18. Perron.20

Yeah yakupov needs to learn a more linear game. and back checking can be taught. Goal scoring not so much!

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#130 pkam
January 13 2014, 04:09PM
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Zarny wrote:

Their first 20 games means they won't likely leapfrog many but they will finish ahead of Calgary and Buffalo for sure and they probably only have to be a few games above 0.500 the rest of the way to catch Florida, NYI and Winnipeg.

Even if they draft 3rd Ekblad is off the board.

Seth Jones never ranked below 2nd but was drafted 4th last year. Ebklad is ranked 3rd today by central scouts in mid term ranking. Just saying.

I agree the Calgary will finish last. But I am not so certain that we can finish ahead of Sabres.

Sabres last 10 games was 600 (5-3-2). They are just 4 pts behind the Oilers and have 4 games in hand. The majority of their remaining 38 games will be against weaker Eastern Conference teams. And majority of the remaining 34 Oilers games are against the big strong Western Conference teams. If it is a playoff series between the Oilers and the Sabres, I'll put all my money on the Oilers. But I am not as certain that the Oilers will finish ahead of them. I think it will be a dog fight between the 2.

And Panthers are 6 pts ahead of us and 3 games in hand facing mostly the weaker Eastern Conference. It will be a tall task to catch up to them.

To catch up to the Jets and Preds, we have to play 500 and they play 350 or worse for the rest of the year. Not impossible, but very unlikely.

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#131 pkam
January 13 2014, 06:17PM
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SRELIOFAN wrote:

Very true. Example: Cam Barker??

Cam Barker was 3rd overall in 2004, not 1st overall.

Erik Johnson, 1st overall in 2006 will be a better example. You have to shake your head if you look at the 4 picks after him. 2nd Jordan Staal, 3rd Jonathan Toews, 4th Nicklas Backstrom, 5th Phil Kessel. I'll take anyone of those 4 over Erik Johnson.

Not all high draft defenseman will not work out. Drew Doughty and Alex Pietrangelo (2nd and 4th in 2008) work out pretty good. But none of Weber, Chara, and Keith, arguably the top 3 defensemen now, are even 1st round picks.

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#132 Jtfan
January 13 2014, 06:39PM
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Yak is definitely not ovechkin but he has pure offense and like ovechkin with washington the worst +- on their respective teams. Whether he can learn to see his teamates and make the right play .......we may have to be patient and see if he develops......he does have the quickest release and speed to burn!

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#133 **
January 13 2014, 06:48PM
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SRELIOFAN wrote:

Very true. Example: Cam Barker??

rick di pietro

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#134 justDOit
January 13 2014, 06:51PM
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Lochenzo wrote:

I now know what's it feels like to be a Lambourghini enthusiast complaining about having TWO Diablos in the garage.

On the one hand, you may ask why do you have two Diablos. On the other hand, you may want to smack the guy upside the head and say, is that what you're really complaining about!

It's the $7000 tuneups every 15k that are a bitch about the Diablo!

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#135 justDOit
January 13 2014, 06:54PM
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@Zarny

Um, yes - Nail is Muslim.

As for the post you replied to... yikes!

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#136 Jay Gray
January 13 2014, 07:08PM
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I liked the pick then, I like the pick now.

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#137 corky
January 13 2014, 07:37PM
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On a better run team Yak would have been groomed in the minors. But not here. This is not the first case of Oil messing with development. They ruined Jeff Delauriers development by not having their own farm team. The incompetence has run long and deep with the Oilers. For shame.

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#138 steveb12344
January 13 2014, 08:02PM
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pkam wrote:

Cam Barker was 3rd overall in 2004, not 1st overall.

Erik Johnson, 1st overall in 2006 will be a better example. You have to shake your head if you look at the 4 picks after him. 2nd Jordan Staal, 3rd Jonathan Toews, 4th Nicklas Backstrom, 5th Phil Kessel. I'll take anyone of those 4 over Erik Johnson.

Not all high draft defenseman will not work out. Drew Doughty and Alex Pietrangelo (2nd and 4th in 2008) work out pretty good. But none of Weber, Chara, and Keith, arguably the top 3 defensemen now, are even 1st round picks.

What's interesting about this, is look at the teams with the top 5 picks on 06...

StL, Pit, Chi, Wash, Bos.

My how times have changed.

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#139 Cynic
January 13 2014, 10:51PM
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Jones went 4th to NAS

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#140 Walter Sobchak
January 13 2014, 11:14PM
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Kr55 wrote:

Yeah, some people have a short memory about the injuries Krueger had to deal with last season. We went on a run where we were losing a center almost every night. Plus Nuge could barely hit the net with weak shots because of his messed up shoulder. Playing only the West as well, last season was just a painful grind.

Only really bad injury Eakins has had is Gags being out, but that actually went in Eakins' favor because Arco played way better than Gags would have in his place. When Gags came back Eakins made the team worse by demoting Arco to make room.

This is also a good point I never even thought about, Krueger never had used Arcobelo, this would be both a point, counter point ya?

Krueger had the ability to call Arcobelo up but only used him in one game iirc.

Having said that, Eakins center depth exceeded Krueger's

While I don't think ether coach is the long term answer, I find it a short sighted move by MacTavish to get rid of Krueger too soon.

At the same time, I feel like Eakins could have been brought in to be the co-coach, had Krueger failed this year then MacTavish would have had his coach in waiting & Eakins could have benefited with a year behind the bench as a co-coach.

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#141 emonkee
January 13 2014, 11:21PM
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I know this is unrelated to LT's article, but why did the oilers create a video "STILL" talking about that weird goal...who gives a crap? We lost the game, why bother interviewing Gordon and Dubnyk? If we win the game, then fine. But we lost, I think there are other more important things to focus on.

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#142 2004Z06
January 14 2014, 09:36AM
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Cold Hard Truth wrote:

How do you explain the obvious regress of our power play, then?

That is the easiest question of all to answer regarding the Oilers this year.

Every team in the league now knows how to stifle the Oilers power play. Keep them to the outside (they prefer perimeter play and they don't drive the net), keep sticks in the lanes (to cut off the across the front of the net pass), Allow your goalie good sight lines (Oilers never shoot)and pressure the point guys (they will panic and cough up the puck)

A pee wee coach could neutralize our power play!

They are doing exactly the same thing on the PP as they did last year. Old habits die hard!

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#143 Rdubb
January 15 2014, 08:35AM
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Maybe 45 doesn't make or change things, but Katz has people in place to run the Oilers, and he should leave hockey decisions to the HOCKEY PEOPLE!! If, in fact the story is true and Katz over ruled everyone @ that table on that day, then HE SHOULD stand up and say so. Hell, even I knew Yak shouldn't have been #1, I personally (not to mention others on the site plus "hockey insiders") would have taken the kid that MON took (cannot spell his name w/o looking it - does that make you happy serious gord?), so what if he missed a good chunk of that season, he was by far a better 2-way player and could also put up big numbers, not to mention his position? Yak was the risky pick, but perhaps had the most upside, but one could see that he did love hockey and wanted to play in the NHL, BUT, he wasn't a character kid, not like Murray (who many predict could be an NHL captain in the future) or Galyenchuk. Most times, if the skill level is close, I'd always pick character... Just my thought & opinions PECK

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