CONGRATS, YOU'RE GOING TO EDMONTON

Robin Brownlee
January 15 2014 11:33PM

Ben Scrivens was decidedly understated today when Jason Gregor and I asked him if joining the Edmonton Oilers was his big chance to prove he's a bonafide NHL starter -- a timely opportunity, seeing as he's approaching unrestricted free agency. One can hardly blame him.

Scrivens, a native of Spruce Grove who has just 51 NHL games on his resume at the age of 27, wasn't going to get that chance playing behind Jonathan Quick in Los Angeles, so I was a bit surprised he didn’t sound more pumped about the deal that landed him back in Alberta.

Scrivens talked about not putting the cart before the horse and downplayed the bigger picture Gregor and I were trying to paint. Fair enough. Can't blame a guy for not flapping his gums to a couple media guys on live radio just hours into trying absorb a trade. He was getting ready to board his flight to join the Oilers on the road when we talked.

Then again, I'm assuming that, while Scrivens relishes a chance to play in a city where he'll have to compete for the crease with Ilya Bryzgalov instead of Quick, he's smart enough to know if he's going to prove to any team, including the Oilers, he's ready for prime time and a fat UFA contract, the opportunity comes with, shall we say, challenges.

If Scrivens can make it here, he can make it anywhere.

ONCE AN OILER . . .

On the upside for Scrivens, Quick is out of the equation. On the downside, so is Drew Doughty and Slava Voynov and the rest of a Los Angeles defense that's deeper and more talented than any group Oiler GM Craig MacTavish and coach Dallas Eakins can put in front of him right now.

In the Oilers, Scrivens joins a team that's 26 points behind the Kings in Western Conference standings. He goes from a team that has a decent chance to win a Stanley Cup to a team that's a lock to be a lottery team for the fifth straight year on the way to missing the playoffs for an eighth straight campaign.

In the Oilers, Scrivens joins a team that's allowing an average of 3.55 goals per game through 49 games and is on pace to allow 291 goals. Simply put, it's going to take a helluva lot more than a pending UFA like Scrivens – and the addition of journeyman ham-and-egger Matt Hendricks in another deal today – to turn that around.

Tending the four-by-six behind this bunch chewed outgoing Devan Dubnyk up before he got his ticket to Nashville in the Hendricks deal today. A faded Nikolai Khabibulin couldn’t get anything done here. Bryzgalov, who could not get an NHL job before the Oilers came calling, has had his moments, but has been mediocre at best (.902 with a 3.27 GAA) so far. Playing behind a team this full of holes on the blue line will do that to a stopper.

Is Scrivens good enough to overcome the team playing in front of him? I don't know, but he arrives with less impressive credentials than Bryzgalov and the broken-down Khabibulin. I don't see Scrivens, by the numbers at least, as a proven step-up from Dubnyk.

Understated is probably the way to play it, Ben.

WHILE I'M AT IT . . .

. . . I've got no argument with MacTavish trading Dubnyk. It was clear from his first comments about Dubnyk as GM that MacTavish wasn't sold on the former Kamloops Blazer as a No. 1 goaltender. Playing behind a bad team or not, Dubnyk didn't do enough to change his mind.

If MacTavish and president of hockey operations Kevin Lowe, who have watched Dubnyk, 27, since he turned pro, weren't convinced he was the guy by now, that wasn't going to change. Best to move him along.

. . . Analyst Matthew Barnaby said today via Twitter Hendricks turned down more money from the Oilers as a UFA to sign with Nashville: "I'm told Hendricks turned down more money from EDM in offseason but chose Nash for better fit." Hmm.

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#1 Soccer Steve
January 15 2014, 11:43PM
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Keep it coming, MacT.

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#2 Cold Hard Truth
January 15 2014, 11:44PM
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Spot on, Robin.

Though he has good numbers now, just watch Scrivens' save percentage plummet once he plays for the Oilers.

Some people seem to think that -- MacTavish included -- that it was lousy goaltending that sunk the season. Yes is is true that Dubnyk's goal tending is poor; however, It is a red herring to pin the season's failure on Dubnyk. Like Robin said, there are many holes MacTavish needs to fill before this team is competitive.

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#3 Mason Storm
January 15 2014, 11:44PM
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Hopefully he can prove himself here. What do you think is a reasonable expectation for his save percentage Robin? .915? Or should I lower that?

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#4 spliff
January 15 2014, 11:46PM
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LOL - poor Hendricks! Welcome to the sh*tshow.

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#5 Sorensenator
January 15 2014, 11:56PM
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Spliff cheer for another team.. bud

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#6 D
January 16 2014, 12:06AM
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There was a time that Edmonton was the choice destination in the NHL. If that ever happens again, I promise not to take it for granted a second time around.

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#7 Bucknuck
January 16 2014, 12:15AM
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The D last year was no better than it is this year (Ference is an upgrade over Whitney). Last year Dubnyk got a .920 save percentage and the year before that .914. So I would argue that .915 is a reasonable expectation if Scrivens is to make an argument that he is a number one.

If Dubnyk did it for two years, then Scrivens should be able to. I'm not sure what happened to Dubnyk this year, but he was not the same goaltender as he was the previous two years.

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#8 Stack Pad Save
January 16 2014, 12:26AM
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well it looks like Ekblad had a good top prospects game.

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#9 WhattaMike
January 16 2014, 12:34AM
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Been awhile since I last logged on and stated hockey opinion stuff here....

I know the Oil season is down the drain again but....IMO....I am seeing the Oilers bringing improvement for one team position right now this year...and it is goaltending.

Yeah yeah the Oilers just got Scrivens and the proof of him being very good for the team is not shown just yet....but the Oilers went out and saw somehing in Ty Rimmer and I like him. I am also very happy to see the Oilers let go Olivier Roy and get Brossoit who is tearing up the ECHL with awesome type goaltending in his rookie season already.

These three are a definite good and needed improvement for the now and future over Dubnyk, Khabby, LaBarbara, Roy.....

Now MacT seems to be justifiably working on getting the right type of third to fourth line guys and geting Hendricks to play centre/wing is so much better for the Oilers now than that of Belanger, Smithson, Eager, and then there are Jones, Acton,....

Now..... the other many NHL teams wont be trading top defencemen now to the Oilers while the second half to playoff time season is coming up and going on...so stop with the whining about it. IMO....MacT will do something by the summer and..... I do so fricking fracking hope this is the last damn year the Oilers miss the playoffs....cause I am so tired of watching my team not do well at all. Go Oil and welcome to the team Scrivens and Hendricks.

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#10 Oilcan
January 16 2014, 12:46AM
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MacT's strategy for trading the third for a pending UFA, set the bar high for when he goes to trade all the ufas. In all seriousness I hope he can get at least a couple seconds at the deadline and hopefully turn them into actual NHL players.

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#11 Cynic
January 16 2014, 01:39AM
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Just got dealt from Cup-contender LAK. Today's temp in the 80s. To perennial cellar-dwelling Mickey Mouse Club. Today's temp I'm gonna guess -40. I'd be suicidal, never mind "understated."

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#12 MessyEH
January 16 2014, 01:41AM
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I like the trades. I would have done Scrivins for Dubnyk straight up.

Our 4th line just got better and tougher. The 3rd round pick likely would never had an impact.

Now if we can trade Gagner for D sign Hemsky to 4 years at 12 million. Let Smyth walk at seasons end. Fire Chabot, Bucky, And Smith. Hopefully Katz has Kevin Lowe take off his Robin outfit, so Batman can finally see him for what he is; an emotional Ex-player, who got lucky in 2006.

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#13 MessyEH
January 16 2014, 01:42AM
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I was also excited to hear Katz is buying an ECHL team.

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#14 Nowuknow
January 16 2014, 02:53AM
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One thing is certain, it will take a lot to convert this AHL team roster into NHL playoff team. If we know about winning.....

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#15 Anton
January 16 2014, 03:05AM
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Considering that Scrivens has only played half of season in LAK and was only be able to keep his job as backup to Quick simply because Kings want to keep Jones fresh in AHL that he shouldn't feel anything negative because he was just never good enough. It is a tough task to play in EDM but to be honest that Oilers maybe the only chance that he can really get if he is hoping to become a legit No.1 NHL goalie into the future.

And for Hendricks...sometimes it is better to just take the money especially for a 4th liner. A team is willing to overpaid a player for his service that the team will not stop on trying to trade for him even if that team cannot get him to sign as UFA. A lifelong 4th liner is very much expandable on lots of team's roster especially on a big tough team like Nashville. So, welcome to Edmonton, no matter how much that you resist to play for.

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#16 pelhem grenville
January 16 2014, 04:25AM
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one backup goalie for another backup goalie...

Hendricks? meh...

wake me when something happens...

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#17 The Real Scuba Steve
January 16 2014, 05:22AM
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Hendricks turned down more money from the Oilers as a UFA to sign with Nashville? That's not good.

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#18 Sisyphus
January 16 2014, 05:45AM
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Let's see here. We have a goalie who is a FA after this season, who was "understated" about his trade. To me, that reads "Let's not talk about me as the franchise goaltender here, because I am RUNNING away from this team as soon as my contract is up. Thanks for the hit my GAA will take, and good luck getting a real goalie". Can't blame him, either--with our "D", he'll look even worse than he is.

As for Hendricks, he already turned down more $ from EDM. He does not want to be here. Never did--took less money to go elsewhere (also something to think about for future FA's this offseason we seem to think we'll get--even more $$ won't always do it). Guy who doesn't want to be here, a 4th line guy at best, and who knows if he'll even have the heart/good guy in the room status here, bc hard to do that when you're the only one, let alone when you're someplace you never wanted to be.

All in all, yes, they got rid of DD which was good. Beyond that, you signed two players who really don't want to be here, one of whom I predict now will NOT be here in October. Good job. "Bold" moves that have absolutely no substantive effect

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#19 Bloodsweatandoil
January 16 2014, 06:04AM
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Well, if those two do not want to be here, so what, they will get over it, its not like any of the top ten NHL teams were banging down doors to obtain their services.

I am happy that moves were made, it had to happen and its a start. Mac T has to keep weeding the garden until September, every little bit helps.

Taking Hendricks was taking salary back obviously and he will solidify the fourth line a bit more. Just a sign that our AHL'ers are not ready yet to assume roles and play in the bigs.

Our defence is what it is and I hope Scrivens can hold in there, Dubnyk will probably rebound in Nashville and look good behind Weber and the rest of their defence.

Now, I am waiting for an anticipated 3rd to 1st line trade and shake up for a defensemen or two.

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#20 Sisyphus
January 16 2014, 06:13AM
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Bloodsweatandoil wrote:

Well, if those two do not want to be here, so what, they will get over it, its not like any of the top ten NHL teams were banging down doors to obtain their services.

I am happy that moves were made, it had to happen and its a start. Mac T has to keep weeding the garden until September, every little bit helps.

Taking Hendricks was taking salary back obviously and he will solidify the fourth line a bit more. Just a sign that our AHL'ers are not ready yet to assume roles and play in the bigs.

Our defence is what it is and I hope Scrivens can hold in there, Dubnyk will probably rebound in Nashville and look good behind Weber and the rest of their defence.

Now, I am waiting for an anticipated 3rd to 1st line trade and shake up for a defensemen or two.

The reason it matters if they don't want to be here and never did? At least for Scrivens, it matters because how do you think you're going to re-sign him here after this year, if he's already disinterested in being here in the first place? I don't see any marked improvement coming for the rest of the season, and I don't see a goalie wanting to resign in front of our non-existent D. We'll lose Scrivens, and the pick.

As for Hendricks, it matters because if you so truly never wanted to be here, lost out on $ to avoid it the first go-round, my guess is he gets in the room, decides f-this, and upon realizing how bad this team is, hopes he can coast his way into a buyout. In any case, you get nothing out of him either.

Yes, it doesn't ALWAYS matter whether players want to be somewhere, but if you're already talking about a really bad team, it does make a difference. Drag the room down a little more?

Also, this should be considered a preview to this summer's FA frenzy ppl think we're going to have. We have guys, 4th line crappy players who probably didn't have many other offers, turning down more $ to avoid EDM. What makes you think that was a one-off, and that we won't have that same issue with every single FA we try to sign in the offseason?

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#21 JSR
January 16 2014, 06:25AM
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Nice title, Brownlee!

One bonus to being traded here this year, you'll be golfing by mid-April, instead of not getting paid to play in the playoffs!

I hope this thing gets turned around soon. It's not much fun watching a perennial loser...

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#22 Chris!
January 16 2014, 06:27AM
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Mr. Brownlee is surprised Ben Scrivens isn't more pumped about getting traded to the worst team in the league, where his goalie stats will get run through the meat grinder for the next four months. Just in time lower his value even further before heading into free agency.

I can't imagine what the problem is either!

The Oilers aren't an opportunity, they're a death sentence.

PS, it seems strange to comment on the trading of Dubnyk (which no one I can see if complaining about) without mentioning the worse-than-nothing return MacT "dealt" for. Three years of non-factor for $2M. THAT'S what people are complaining about.

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#23 Drowning in Oil
January 16 2014, 06:39AM
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Here we go, everyone getting gushy with Mac T. He did something, he did something....... Problem is no matter what he does to this team in regards to players, he has already made the move that leaves a knife in the Oilers back. Eakins is not a NHL ready coach and Mac T made him his summer priority. This decision and this decision alone will haunt the team far more than any lack of D men, goaltender, or 3rd liners. With Mac T and Kevin Lowe behind the helm, expect what we get now to last awhile, a long while!

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#24 Cody anderson
January 16 2014, 06:54AM
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People think Hendricks signing with Nashville for less money says a whole bunch about Edmonton and how he doesn't want to be here. I can't deny that that is a possibility. Of course, there are other possibilities. It could mean his decision of where to play had very little to do with the money. A veteran player choosing a winner is not all that rare. With Weber and Jones they were expected to be better.

When I first heard about the trade I thought it was a salary dump at first too. Then I read more and was suddenly much happier with the trade. The fact that Mact aggressively persued Hendricks in the off season is a good sign. The fact that we offered him more money means we got a better deal than we would have gotten had we negotiated directly with the player. The fact that teams that were much higher in the standings were willing to overpay for his service is promising. Lastly I am hoping having it not work out in Nashville will light a fire under his ass.

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#25 Cody anderson
January 16 2014, 06:59AM
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A 3rd rounder to both test drive and have a few months where we have the negotiating rights with a young goalie who has put up great numbers this year is a risk I am very happy with.

I can see Ben not knowing how to take this. It is almost a given his GAA will go up and his save percentage will go down. In a contract year, obviously this is the last thing a goalie wants. On the other side he gets the opportunity to be a starter in his hometown. If his numbers as a starter are any better than Dub and Bryz he will be offered a nice contract.

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#26 Sisyphus
January 16 2014, 07:07AM
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Cody anderson wrote:

A 3rd rounder to both test drive and have a few months where we have the negotiating rights with a young goalie who has put up great numbers this year is a risk I am very happy with.

I can see Ben not knowing how to take this. It is almost a given his GAA will go up and his save percentage will go down. In a contract year, obviously this is the last thing a goalie wants. On the other side he gets the opportunity to be a starter in his hometown. If his numbers as a starter are any better than Dub and Bryz he will be offered a nice contract.

While I agree that wanting to go to a winner can be a deciding factor for MH too, what does that still say about FA chances this off-season? Again, even with more money, veteran FA's want to go to a team with a chance to win--which is not EDM.

As for Scrivens and the hometown bit, I think we over-value how much that counts for. Maybe if your "hometown" is Toronto, where its still a vibrant, international city even if the hockey team isn't great, it might count, and you'd be willing to take a crappy starting job to be there. But this is Edmonton. Frozen tundra, relatively small-town, definitely no international feel, etc.

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#27 Loweblows
January 16 2014, 07:08AM
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MessyEH wrote:

I was also excited to hear Katz is buying an ECHL team.

I thought he already owned the Oilers?

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#28 Brian
January 16 2014, 07:11AM
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Not bold moves, but bearable. Move Dudnyk who is shaky at best, and take Scrivens for a test drive. Like him, pay him what he needs to stay. 3rd round pick? Whoever it turn out to be is a long way off if he plays at all. Hendricks? You are a 4 th liner making nice money. Suck it up or ride ghd back of a CWD garbage truck. Your lucky to be in the NHL.

Not a bad days work by MacT. Not great, but not bad.

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#29 Oiler Al
January 16 2014, 07:19AM
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MacT, want to start improving your defense.... FIRE Smith,s ask out of town at once. There are other teams with similar or less talent on defense that play a better game. The Oiler problems are bigger than just the players. Things have been terrible ever since " let me get one for the other team" showed up behind the bench.

And while your kicking asks, throw Bucky out the door, at least you will save on gum or what ever he keeps chewing.

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#30 Spydyr
January 16 2014, 07:37AM
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Scrivens wife is an LA girl.She lives the LA life style.The chances of him signing here as a UFA is about as good as Pronger coming back.

So Mac-T has traded a third round pick for a backup goalie on a lotto team.He will get three months in that role.

Piss poor asset management, again.

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#31 Spydyr
January 16 2014, 07:40AM
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Hendricks did not want to come here, turning down more money to go to Nashville. So trade for him that will make him want to come now.

Surely he will come, he is a pro but who wants a guy on your team that does not want to be there?

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#32 Kr55
January 16 2014, 07:44AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Scrivens wife is an LA girl.She lives the LA life style.The chances of him signing here as a UFA is about as good as Pronger coming back.

So Mac-T has traded a third round pick for a backup goalie on a lotto team.He will get three months in that role.

Piss poor asset management, again.

Little article about his wife:

http://blogs.canoe.ca/slam/hockey/biggest-loser-in-oilers-kings-trade-mrs-scrivens/

Definitely looks like she prefers life in LA, and the US in general.

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#33 Mooseroni
January 16 2014, 07:49AM
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I think what happened with Dubnyk is he had a kid this summer and it completely changed his outlook on life and net.

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#34 Sisyphus
January 16 2014, 07:53AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Hendricks did not want to come here, turning down more money to go to Nashville. So trade for him that will make him want to come now.

Surely he will come, he is a pro but who wants a guy on your team that does not want to be there?

Exactly. Yes, he'll be here, but why MacT seems to think he can force this is beyond me.

Then again, no one wants to be in Edmonton these days, and I would hazard a guess that includes our vaunted star players too. I would bet that given the chance, Hall, Ebs, all of those guys would be happy to jump ship immediately just to get the heck out of EDM

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#35 Sisyphus
January 16 2014, 07:57AM
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Here's my prediction for how this goes over the next bit:

1. Scrivens plays worse in EDM than in LA, and even though his offers will be even fewer now, refuses to re-sign in EDM. 2. Bryz wants out, and would rather go back to Vegas to play than re-sign another year contract in this circus. So we're out a starting G. 3. We lose all but 2 Dmen we currently have, so we're already dealing with totally new teammates, possible lack of chemistry, etc. We find out the hard way that no FA Dmen want to come to Edmonton, even if we try to overpay for them. We're left scraping bottom of the barrel AND still overpaying to get enough Dmen to field a team. 4. We can't get rid of Gagner, so we're stuck trying to figure out what to do with him--play him, or buy him out. 5. Hemmer walks for nothing at the end of the season, and won't resign for more than a year here, and for overpayment. 6. Edmonton starts next season basically where we are now, if not worse. Continues to play terribly, finishing 2014-2015 in bottom 5 in league at best. 7. By end of 2014-2015, Hall has quietly asked for trade out of this h3II hole

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#36 S cottV
January 16 2014, 08:03AM
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When Scrivens numbers take a nose dive in the Oiler system, hopefully Oiler fans will start to direct anger at the system and not our goaltenders. Our goalie support is so bad, that you cant even really evaluate them properly.

This run and gun - offense first - old Oiler culture, has to go.

Give me the Kings culture - any day. I appreciate the heavier game played with more structure and good defence. Winning - way more than losing, is also much easier to embrace.

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#37 Kr55
January 16 2014, 08:03AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Hendricks did not want to come here, turning down more money to go to Nashville. So trade for him that will make him want to come now.

Surely he will come, he is a pro but who wants a guy on your team that does not want to be there?

I was a bit disappointed to hear we offered Hendricks more than the 1.85M/year. I wonder if we offered more term too. That's almost as bad as the Clarkson offer.

Lucky Clarkson has a NMC, or the Oilers would be offering their 1st round pick this year to the Leafs for him :)

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#38 Brian
January 16 2014, 08:10AM
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Kr55 wrote:

Little article about his wife:

http://blogs.canoe.ca/slam/hockey/biggest-loser-in-oilers-kings-trade-mrs-scrivens/

Definitely looks like she prefers life in LA, and the US in general.

What's the divorce rate between Valley Girls and hockey players once the career, glamour, glitz and money are gone?

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#39 Bob Loblaw
January 16 2014, 08:41AM
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I think that we should all remember that if this team was really good for a number of years, we'd be getting rid of players that played poorly. It shouldn't differ just because the Oilers are a bad team.

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#40 WhattaMike
January 16 2014, 08:42AM
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This morning I have been reading those many comments many have stated here and I agree the short term future does not look good for the Oilers right now ....but....this does not mean that the Oilers lose out on these two new players either.

IMO, if in his position...I would do just like Scrivens and say my type answers and thoughts as just the way he did because....being from Spruce Grove originally.... he absolutely knows how tough and fanatical the sports press and fan base are in this area...and he does not need to be considered the next saviour for as added pressure.And, he knows the Oilers are still a huge work in progress...

As for whether or not he will be here next season???? who cares right now. He can play this year and show all he can be and he can also still be traded by the deadline and/or...he may want to stay here after all...for...say three more years (new contract).

As for Hendricks.....concerning the issue of money or being with a team that is likely strong enough for a playoff position...he is now 32 and likely wants a stanley cup before his career ends. Dont blame him for that..

For now I give MacT credit and he improved two positions somewhat. (Dubnyk has played like major crap this year and he has had more than enough time to be a very good goalie. We need size and meanness back in this lineup and from a player who can play very decent hockey and thats where hendricks fits in.) Thats MacT's job isnt it??....to make improvements and get this team going. So he did something for now....Yeah yeah he has to make more better and bigger moves but I see and hear that no teams are knocking down his door for Hemsky, Gagner, Ryan Smyth, Nick Schultz, Jones, Grebeshkov, Belov, Bryzgalov, etc...right now.

So...the trade deadline is coming up soon and lets see where this all goes before there's huge whining some more... I know the team is gonna miss the playoffs again but...concerning a draft position...I also can see Eckblad coming in to be #1 and 1A with Nurse for the future too.

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#41 jr_christ
January 16 2014, 08:46AM
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Awesome! Trades!

Now... GET US SOME DEFENSEMAN!

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#42 Cold Hard Truth
January 16 2014, 08:48AM
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Bucknuck wrote:

The D last year was no better than it is this year (Ference is an upgrade over Whitney). Last year Dubnyk got a .920 save percentage and the year before that .914. So I would argue that .915 is a reasonable expectation if Scrivens is to make an argument that he is a number one.

If Dubnyk did it for two years, then Scrivens should be able to. I'm not sure what happened to Dubnyk this year, but he was not the same goaltender as he was the previous two years.

I beg to differ.

The Oilers goals against average is 3.51 this year. Last year it was 2.71.

They're letting in more goals -- either do to their poor defence, or poor defensive coverage by the fowards, but likely a combition of the two.

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#43 nick
January 16 2014, 08:53AM
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Drowning in Oil wrote:

Here we go, everyone getting gushy with Mac T. He did something, he did something....... Problem is no matter what he does to this team in regards to players, he has already made the move that leaves a knife in the Oilers back. Eakins is not a NHL ready coach and Mac T made him his summer priority. This decision and this decision alone will haunt the team far more than any lack of D men, goaltender, or 3rd liners. With Mac T and Kevin Lowe behind the helm, expect what we get now to last awhile, a long while!

This is a very good post. What we will get in UFA's with Eakins as a coach are players that played for the Marlies. That's awesome we can load up on Toronto's cast offs. No top notch UFA will ever sign here with Eakins as a coach and the management team they have in place in Edmonton. This organization is a total joke.

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#44 Hemmercules
January 16 2014, 08:55AM
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Oilers management has to look at things from a business standpoint and I understand that. You can't base all your moves on the fact that this guys wife wont like Edmonton and that guy didnt want to play here before. Tough situation for sure but the bottom line is bringing in players that will improve your team.

Hendricks is a slight improvement for the team but nothing special. Any player will feel sour going to a crap team but I expect him to be a professional, take his overpayment and play hard for the Oilers. He probably wishes now that he just took extra money from the Oilers in the beginning since he ended up there anyway. Sucker.

Scrivens will have to play the best hockey of his life just to have a shot at signing somewhere this summer in my opinion. At best he plays ok and the Oilers or another team sign him for 1 year (Oilers having to overpay of course!). Judging by the wife situation, he likely takes any deal that brings him back to the states.

In the end, these trades probably leave the Oilers with one less draft pick, a decent all around 3-4 liner and no goalies this summer when Brysgalov likely signs a short deal elsewhere.

Doesn't look like a win to me unless somehow Scrivens plays lights out and signs a contract.

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#45 Ryan2
January 16 2014, 09:02AM
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Cold Hard Truth wrote:

I beg to differ.

The Oilers goals against average is 3.51 this year. Last year it was 2.71.

They're letting in more goals -- either do to their poor defence, or poor defensive coverage by the fowards, but likely a combition of the two.

I wonder if the coaching change has anything to do with it?..........

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#46 Hemmercules
January 16 2014, 09:07AM
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Mooseroni wrote:

I think what happened with Dubnyk is he had a kid this summer and it completely changed his outlook on life and net.

I think what happened is Dubnyk is what he is, an inconsistent goalie that lets in a soft goal sometimes. He probably gets better numbers in Nashville with a better defense in front but he wont be a starting goalie on any team next year. I would take a smaller faster goalie over Dubnyk any day.

Scrivens is hardly a replacement though, lateral move. He is likely also gone this summer for nothing unless Mact deals him at the deadline.

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#47 Lochenzo
January 16 2014, 09:14AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Scrivens wife is an LA girl.She lives the LA life style.The chances of him signing here as a UFA is about as good as Pronger coming back.

So Mac-T has traded a third round pick for a backup goalie on a lotto team.He will get three months in that role.

Piss poor asset management, again.

ahhh... but if Scrivens does prove to be starter quality, he's going to sign where he can play a lot of games and get paid, and that's not LA.

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#49 Yardbird
January 16 2014, 09:26AM
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I miss DSF on this board,Did he get caught smuggling at the Sumas border crossing?

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#50 Bryzarro World
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I cannot freaking believe MacT and Kblowe would trade for a guy who didn't want to come here and turned them down.

In combination with the retention of half of Dub's salary, this showed me that there is now ABSOLUTELY NO HOPE of ever turning things around with these yoyos at the wheel.

No more F$@Ks to give anymore. Just sad. Very sad...

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