GDB 50.0: DO THE MOVES MATTER?

Jason Gregor
January 16 2014 12:25PM

Instead of firing another head coach, Craig MacTavish has decided to move out some players who have been here for most of the losing. Ladislav Smid was traded earlier this year, and yesterday Devan Dubnyk was sent to Nashville for Matt Hendricks. MacTavish quickly replaced Dubnyk by acquiring netminder Ben Scrivens from Los Angeles. 

Will these moves make the Oilers better? 

I don't see Hendricks making a major impact, but I also don't expect 4th liners to be difference makers. His salary is too high for a 4th liner, but if he plays well, helps out on the PK and adds some energy then he could break even. The Oilers aren't in a massive cap crunch and I don't see anyone on the roster in line for a significant raise over the next two seasons, so I don't see his $1.85 million cap hit hampering them financially. You can critique Hendricks the player, and have reservations about his play, but his cap hit is not going to hinder the Oilers.

Scrivens has an opportunity of a lifetime. He's coming to a team that is desperate for adequate goaltending. He doesn't need to be great, he just needs to be better than Ilya Bryzgalov's .904 SV%, and if he can avoid allowing weak goals he'll be considered an improvement.

Let's make one thing abundantly clear, however, Dubnyk was not the main reason the Oilers are in 29th place.

He was brutal at the start of the season, but since November he has been no worse than the majority of the roster. I've heard and read suggestions that that his slow start ruined the Oilers season.

I'd say that is just a tad misleading.

No doubt he was brutal early on, especially against the Jets, Canadiens and Leafs. Had he played decent they win those games. However, when you look closer you realize that the Oilers winning % didn't go up when Dubnyk was out of the lineup, it went down.

In the 29 games Dubnyk started the Oilers won 11 of them.
The 20 games he didn't start they won 4.

The Oilers won 38% of the games he started, but only 20% of the games he didn't. In case you are wondering in his 11 wins he only allowed 20 goals, so you can't say the offence carried him. 

I'm not giving Dubnyk a free pass. He didn't play well this year. He has to own that, but they Oilers need to realize that when he didn't play they won 4 of 20 games. FOUR. I'd say they have many other issues besides Dubnyk.

The goaltending needs to be better, but after speaking to a few scouts and goalie coaches I'm not sold that Scrivens is an automatic upgrade.

Dubnyk played much better last season; however, he hasn't been able to shed the "weak goal" label. Those goals were magnified on a losing team, and if he wants to be a starter somewhere else he'll need to limit the softies. Scrivens is a good backup, but he's yet to show he can be a starter. He'll get every opportunity to prove he can be over the next few months.

Dubnyk didn't look comfortable this year and to me it became clear the organization had lost faith in him, and I sense that Dubnyk's confidence was waning. Sometimes you just have to realize that both sides are better off without one another, and I think that was the case.

I won't be surprised if Dubnyk puts up decent numbers elsewhere, but I will be shocked if he re-signs in Nashville. With Pekka Rinne signed for another five seasons, I doubt Dubnyk wants to settle for a guaranteed backup role. I suspect he will sign with a team that doesn't have a clear cut starter.

HENDRICKS...

He is a 4th liner who kills penalties, but he hasn't produced much offence since he tallied 25 points in 2011. He is competitive and will battle, but some won't be able to get past his $1.85 million salary for the next three seasons. If you expect him to produce a lot of points due to his salary, then you'll be disappointed. He won't bring much offence.

He's never been a regular centre, but he has won 53% of the 700+ faceoffs he's taken. I'd have him centre the 4th line the rest of the season. Smyth is better on the wall than he is down the middle.

At best he's a 4th liner who kills penalties and will add some energy and break even offensively. The latter will be his biggest challenge, and MacTavish has opened himself up for criticism if Hendricks can't be break even. 

LINEUP

Hall-RNH-Gagner
Yakupov-Arcobello-Eberle
Perron-Gordon-Hendricks/Jones
Jones/Hendricks-Smyth-Gazdic

Ference-J.Schultz
Marincin-Petry
Belov-N.Schultz

Scrivens

Starting Scrivens was the obvious decision. He'll want to make an impression right away and Bryzgalov wasn't very good in Dallas. The Oilers are 2-16-3 in their last 21 visits to Minnesota, so any new face in the lineup could be a welcomed addition.

Hemsky is back in Edmonton getting his swollen ankle looked at. If it is just bruised, I'd sit him out until it was 100%, not 80 or 90, but 100% before I'd put him back on the ice. The Oilers need him healthy and at his best to maximize his trade value. He won't re-sign to be a 3rd line RW next year, so they need to get something for him at the deadline.

Hendricks should play 4th line centre, mainly because Smyth is better on the wall, but Eakins suggested you might see him on the wing, possibly with Gordon. The Oilers like his energy, which is great, but he'll need to generate some offence if you play him on the third line.

TONIGHT...

GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers haven't had a lot of luck in the Twin Cities (inner Gene comes out) recently, but the new faces will give them a boost and they will skate away with a rare win in Minnesota. They get a break not having to face Niklas Backstrom -- he is 25-4-1 all-time vs. Edmonton, although the way he's playing maybe they would prefer to face him -- and they score three on Darcy Kuemper to win 3-2.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: You can change the coach and the players, but the Wild are still a boring hockey team. They are 26th in scoring, but have the 10th best GAA. This game is a reminder of how awful it was to have to watch the Wild six times a year. Thankfully we are only subjected to it three times a year now.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Most stats suggest Hendricks won't produce much offence, but he picks up a 2nd period assist and Oilersnation rejoices. Also, in a rare change of fortunes an Oiler scores against his former team when Nick Schultz scores his first of the season. Kyle Brodziak watches in disbelief. He was certain he would score tonight.

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#101 RexHolez
January 16 2014, 08:25PM
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#oilerspositives - another fantastic night for the skate laces they chose to use! Not a single skate lace broke tonight!!! Kudos

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#102 Quintana
January 16 2014, 08:31PM
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FIRE LOWE!!!!!! FIRE LOWE!!!!

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#103 madjam
January 16 2014, 08:47PM
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8 years to make us this bad . Looking like MacT. and his dealings are becoming more of a problem than Tams ever was . Should maybe change team name to Edmonton Postal - as we continue to mail in the points .

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#104 Mack Strong
January 16 2014, 09:51PM
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Just watched the Oil vs the Wild( thats two hours of my life I'm not gonna get back) and saw Ben put out effort and was fighting to keep us in…then I look at Petry, Ference, J Schultz, and Marincin (he's young so he gets a pass for now) completely leave him out to dry! MAC T….you once played with the OILERS jersey on your back and played with pride….we as fans love the OILERS jersey (besides one guy) and wear the jersey with pride….how can you just sit there and make these cheesie a$$ trades and figure that this is going to save this titanic from the bottom of the atlanic!? DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN DUMP SALARY AND PAY 4TH LINER AHLers 2 MILLION DOLLARS! If "its a tight market" or if you can't seem to get something going…..take you and your sorry a$$ transition glasses, flow bee hair do eakins and "I'm the winningest guy in hockey right now" for a walk to tsn and ask to sit where maurice was sitting on the panel. This is getting too hard to stomach…..The defence and lack of anything being done is flat our retarded!!

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#105 Drowning in Oil
January 16 2014, 10:16PM
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BREAKING NEW!!

Craig MacTavish declares that the Edmonton Oiler Hockey Club now has all lthe pieces in place to become a contender. "It all started with the brilliant signings of Boyd Gordon and Andrew Ferrence. Sure I overpaid for both of them but there was maybe one other team looking for their services, and you know how it is in Edmonton. If there is any other team interested in a player, they always seem to choose the other team.

I also hired the real star in the coaching world, Dallas Eakins. He came very highly recommended by someone so I passed up all the existing candidates with actual NHL experience and went with the new hotshot. I really think things look good. Dallas knows exactly what he is doing. You can see the clock turning in his head during the game. It is really quite impressive.

Now with the trades for Hendricks and Scrivens, the Edmonton Oilers can finally look to go over that bump in the road that has been 29th place for so, so long."

"One day" says MacTavish, "I envision myself sitting in the new arena actually watching this team compete for something other than a lotto. I mean, honestly, myself and Kevin Lowe feel like we've already won the lottery. Darryl loves us."

* to alleviate any confusion, I am just a fan, and this is a concocted, made-up speech by a very real person, Mr Craig MacTavish. This never happened.

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#106 Hockey mom
January 16 2014, 10:32PM
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Randaman wrote:

Ya, it's Hall. Saw it in the first period. My wife doesn't like him anymore. LOL

It was probably Hall muttering to himself "give me a f*%^# trade so I can play for a real f*^%# coach"

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#107 Turnover
January 16 2014, 10:43PM
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Why is there a new arena being built ?

Is Edmonton getting a hockey team ?

If I was a season ticket holder, I would sue the organization for false promices.

But Jason...that is 2 nice butts.

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#108 mayorblaine
January 16 2014, 12:39PM
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happy to see Dubnyk get a change. he needed it and probably isn't sad either.

whilst the oilers keep piddling around in bottom 6, with aims at high draft picks, other teams will build winning teams. unitl we touch the top 6 we stay bad.

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#109 BRHLBryce
January 16 2014, 02:35PM
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@Truth

Above average skating, good defensive instincts, faceoff ability, and penalty shot ability. which is 2 or 3 more tools than guys we've seen in the bottom 6 the past few years.

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#110 Sketchy
January 16 2014, 07:23PM
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So this is what a rebuild looks like?? If I knew that I wouldn't of been onboard for one 4-5 years ago

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#111 God
January 16 2014, 08:08PM
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Welcome to Etown, Sribbles. Say goodbye to solid D.

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#112 Mason Storm
January 16 2014, 08:16PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Darren Dregger breaking a trade rumour on Twitter...

Sam Gagner to the the Canadian Women's Olympic team for Haley Wickenhieser

How much salary do we retain in that trade?

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#113 Islanders of the North
January 16 2014, 09:58PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

If the Buffalo Sabres win just half of the games that they have in hand over us, they will be ahead of us in the standings.

All together now!

Here We Go Sabres! Here We Go! Clap Clap!

Really? This is what NHL hockey has become in Edmonton, pathetic, you do not deserve n NHL team.

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#114 BRHLBryce
January 16 2014, 01:24PM
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Plus Hendricks is an absolute ACE in the shootout. No mention of that?

9 of 15 for his career prior to this season.

Who says he has no skill?

He will be fine in the bottom 6, replace Jones with a more protypical depth player.

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#115 pkam
January 16 2014, 01:40PM
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Wintoon wrote:

Oiler fans amaze me. Hendricks has not played one minute for the team and already the knives are out. I said the other day that in a re-build you don't have to win every trade but you do have to win the key trades. This folks is not a key trade.

Fans have been crying about no size, no grit, no energy and no compete. MacT acquires Hendricks who meets those criteria and every body is moaning that he won't score, he won't this, he won't that. For goodness sake give him 10-15 games and then offer your thoughts but for now give him and MacT the benefit of the doubt. You are starting to sound like Leaf fans.

The most ironic thing is, just a couple of weeks ago, some posters here complain that the management was doing nothing, and they said they would rather have some trades, any trade, than no trade, even we have to overpay.

Hard to believe how fast they change their minds.

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#116 junior
January 16 2014, 05:18PM
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Wintoon wrote:

Oiler fans amaze me. Hendricks has not played one minute for the team and already the knives are out. I said the other day that in a re-build you don't have to win every trade but you do have to win the key trades. This folks is not a key trade.

Fans have been crying about no size, no grit, no energy and no compete. MacT acquires Hendricks who meets those criteria and every body is moaning that he won't score, he won't this, he won't that. For goodness sake give him 10-15 games and then offer your thoughts but for now give him and MacT the benefit of the doubt. You are starting to sound like Leaf fans.

You Sir, could not be more correct in my opinion. I hate the 8 years of futility as much as anybody else but wow,this is a tough crowd...

My questions to the critics are these...

How do you change a losing culture if you don't make changes?

How do you make changes if you are too scared to make a trade; because you may lose the trade,or there may(or may not) have been a better trade possible?

Not to mention trading a goalie who is very obviously struggling on a last place team. Haven't the majority in here(myself included) been saying it seems clear that the team appeared to have lost faith in Dubnyk's ability to be a number one goaltender?

The Oilers are not about to improve without taking a few chances...would you rather stand pat and keep what we have for yet another losing season? Where are all the people that were screaming to fire Tambo because he was too scared to make a trade?

The Oilers are a complete and utter mess,we all get that.Ya gotta start somewhere

We scream for change, and then criticize when change happens, before even one game has been played with the new players...makes no sense to me.

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#117 Hall's Knee Brace
January 16 2014, 08:15PM
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Romanus wrote:

Want to buy my tickets so you can do it yourself?

lol, you still pay for this steaming pile of crap...

best way to protest is to not give a plug nickel to this franchise

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#118 FireKLowe
January 16 2014, 08:40PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

#oilerspositives - On a positive note....our CORSI was off the charts tonight!

#oilerspositives - another molar victory....no one lost any teeth tonight!

Willis and Staples will show us how the oilers are actually improving with the advanced stats.

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#119 outdoorzguy
January 16 2014, 08:54PM
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Nowuknow wrote:

So much is so for game day prediction!!!! Instead bold move will be Coilers to apply to Garry , to use two Golies at once on a game or relegation to the AHL. This will solve everything may be, may be!!!

Huh???

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#120 RexHolez
January 16 2014, 10:06PM
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Islanders of the North wrote:

Really? This is what NHL hockey has become in Edmonton, pathetic, you do not deserve n NHL team.

Correction - this hockey team does not deserve fans that sellout every game for the worst team in league

Gotta be getting close to that elusive title of "worst team in the history of the game"

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#121 spliff
January 16 2014, 11:49PM
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reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan) wrote:

I think mact saw a shiny new toy that his contacts in the media talked a lot about. A rash decision by a rookie gm. Made worse by the fact he is a hypocrit. He says the Team needs stability as a head coach after firing the coach who only had half a season and no real training camp.

How does he have any credibility when it comes to managerial decisions? Lowe hired his friend, there was no search for a replacement as a team doing it's due dilligence would do. MacT hires a new head coach over a phone call. Doesn't do any real thinking. Both instinct decisions that were wrong. There have been many instinct decisions gone wrong. proof is in the record

This team has no plan. just guys going through the motions looking for insperation from somewhere.

Not a good way to run anything

Absolutely agree. I wonder if there was any analysis done to see whether Eakin's systems and ideas would be successful for the Oilers? Where was the due diligence and proper management? It seems like it was another decision made by "hockey minds" and ex-player management types that used to have a place in nhl management(pre - 1990s)but not anymore. Just because MacT is well spoken and educated doesn't translate into managerial acumen.

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#122 Arius Mumin
January 16 2014, 01:57PM
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Dog Train wrote:

Here's hoping for a Bryzgalov-esque Oilers debut for Scrivens. I'm pulling for the guy.

I think we need to get Perron going again. I get that he is a solid two-way player and fits in well with other checkers but if he plays on a line with Gordon and Hendricks, we are wasting his talent. Maybe put Smyth on their wing as a pure defensive line, move Arco to fourth line centre and Gagner back to the middle.

Smyth Hendricks Gazdic would be a solid 4th line.

Jones Gordon Gagner on the 3rd. Why not?.

Perron RNH Yakupov and Hall Arco Eberle as the top two lines. Hall's line has expirience together and Eberle's play would elevate playing with his favorite hcokey player. I am also convinced that RNH and Yakupov need to play together, if given time-I can see them developing into a solid duo.

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#123 RexHolez
January 16 2014, 02:06PM
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pkam wrote:

The most ironic thing is, just a couple of weeks ago, some posters here complain that the management was doing nothing, and they said they would rather have some trades, any trade, than no trade, even we have to overpay.

Hard to believe how fast they change their minds.

Its true. This losing atmosphere has brough out the greatest armchair gm's in the world. The only thing is, is that when they say something one week and they get what they want the next week (size and grit...Hendricks comes along) they immediately go back on their word because it wasn't the exact player they blogged they wanted (in some far fetched trade scenario they thought of.)

This is real world trading ladies. Hendricks might not be the best 3rd or 4th liner with a not so great contract, but deal with it. If we gave anything else up (higher pick or more roster players) then you would just be pissed off that "we're selling the future!"

Bloggers always have the greatest ideas and the greatest excuses for their sh!tty ideas.

yours truly,

Jason "yes thats an earring" Gregor.

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#124 Hockey mom
January 16 2014, 08:56PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Mercy Star.

Like a participation ribbon:)

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#125 Cynic
January 16 2014, 09:54PM
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I missed the memo where we stopped blaming Janet Gretzky.

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#126 Jed
January 16 2014, 10:11PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Seriously, I've never once actually thought to myself 'Gee I hope we bomb this year for x draft pick', but I'm there now.

I hope we dive to 30th and draft Ekblad. Keep him the hell away from the big club, let him develop at his own pace away from the losing. Fire the coaching staff and get rid of Lowe. A new coach would most likely bugger us in the standings once again, which would hopefully allow us to draft McDavid. Keep Hall and Nuge, maybe Yak.

Hall, Nuge, Yak, McDavid, Nurse, Ekblad. That's a core I could get behind.

EDIT: Just to elaborate a bit more, this gives us two centres in RNH and McDavid, two possible first line D men in Nurse and Ekblad, and hopefully the goalie situation can be worked out via free agency or a trade. I remember a couple years ago DSF was ranting about drafting centres and D men before wingers. Damn was I ever sure he was full of it.

They still wouldn't make the playoffs , the teams and management philosophy on how to build a team is wrong and has been for years.

They need to get rid of all of the management and coaches. Then they need to start rebuilding this team.

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#127 Anton
January 16 2014, 11:48PM
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I felt the Eakins was a wrong coach by second game and I felt that they should have fired Eakins by tenth game. And 50 games later that Eakins is still here. The moment when Eakins was thanking Eller for "inspiring" his team to beat Habs that's the moment that I feel so strongly which Eakins should be fired. Isn't that coach's job to inspire your own team?

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#128 ghostofberanek
January 16 2014, 12:40PM
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Mmmmm, twin cities.......

3-1 win for the Oil tonight!

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#129 Johnnydapunk
January 16 2014, 04:19PM
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I guess I'm in the camp of let's see what happens, I am curious though as everyone seems to be ripping Hendricks because he chose Nashville over the Oil and that he is not worth 2 million. His interview sounded like he was looking forwards to playing for the Oil and in hindsight that he may have made a mistake in picking Nashville over the Oil, he seems to feel that he has something to prove which is always a good sign.

I do wonder though what it would take for him to shake off this tag he has already about being a waste? What would he need to do to justify his price tag and that he was worth trading for? I can' t really figure out what everyone wants.

I think he could be a decent asset to the Oil who lack size and grit and the ability to win face offs, I watched a few YouTube videos of him which of course don't show a lot, though his "paralyser" move in shootouts is pretty impressive so if he can be a guy who gets the puck on the breakaway, he could put a few in.

As for Scrivens, let's see what happens, it seems everyone knows the issue here is the Oil's porous defence so again, what would it take for him to be considered a decent choice?

I would have been shocked if he was head over heels excited to come here as he is leaving a team with a pretty decent shot at winning the cup and the Oil are almost booking their tee times. He is playing for a contract somewhere and teams look at stats and he is going to have to play like a Demi god to come out of the season looking half decent. I have only known of one player in recent years who have requested a trade to the Oil and that was Smyth so whether we like it or not, the Oil aren't a great destination for a player for the time being, maybe that will change in a few years, I hope so.

I'm only asking this stuff as a lot of people are ragging about both of them and this can't make it any easier to attract players if the second they are part of the Oil, they are already considered wastes before they even play a game.

I hope they both do alright and as we have Hendricks for a few years, I especially hope that he can prove that he is a bargain at 2 million and not a waste.

As for Dubnyk leaving, I'm looking forwards to seeing how he plays in a different system, maybe without the pressure here he might do alright and as he seems like a nice enough guy, I hope for the best for him.

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#130 BLAKPOO
January 16 2014, 05:42PM
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reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan) wrote:

The team got WORSE under Mact's first year and you " seriously don't see how people can think he's been ineffectual" HIS TEAM IS WORSE!!! thats how people think he is ineffectual

your a Troll or on the Oiler payroll. Perron been good

Gordon ok

Joensuu has brought nothing

Ference has made no difference at all

Bryz is what he was in Philly. Overrated

you forgot grebeshkov. remember how Mact knew this guy was ready for a good year after being away from the NHL

Belov "personally scouted by macT" is average at best

take your PR efforts to the Oilers site where it belongs

Right, so I guess myself and anyone else thinking that MacT has tried to make a positive impact on this team must be on the payroll.

Brilliant.

So if you don't think MacT's done anything at all to try and improve the train-wreck Tambellini left him, you must be on the Flames' payroll? Or is it the Canucks?

Any of the players that have under-performed, or were expected to make more of an impact cost us nothing but a short-term, low-dollar, contract. Maybe in your angry little world the Grebeshkov signing kept Weber off the team? Not sure, don't care. If he works out, great. He didn't. OMFG the sky is falling! Damn you MacT and your calculated risk contracts!!!

Too bad we traded Taylor Hall for Bryzgalov, because he's over-rated. Oh wait, we didn't. He just cost us some money and gave us an excuse to banish LaBarbera. Yeah, what a bad deal.

Maybe you should take your negativity and stupid comments back to you Mom's basement, where it belongs.

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#131 Loweblows
January 16 2014, 07:25PM
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Good grief! Please, no more powerplays! Why does Eakins refuse to set up Yak with Nuge? Eakins has destryoed the PP!

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#132 Romanus
January 16 2014, 08:03PM
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FireKLowe wrote:

Hey Ho Fire Kevin Lowe! Hey Ho Fire Kevin Lowe! Hey Ho Fire Kevin Lowe!

We expect nothing less from the Tier 1 fans at the next home game.

Want to buy my tickets so you can do it yourself?

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#133 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 16 2014, 08:40PM
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outdoorzguy wrote:

How does an Oiler earn a star in a 4-1 loss? Sportsnet is just as pathetic as the Oilers are.

Mercy Star.

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#134 hockey fan 1976
January 16 2014, 09:41PM
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tileguy wrote:

Any tweets from mrs scrivens yet?

"@mrsscrivens,getme the hell out of here Benny, or I swear I'll sleep with Hallsy and then you'll have to demand a trade" LOL

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#135 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
January 16 2014, 10:07PM
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Seriously, I've never once actually thought to myself 'Gee I hope we bomb this year for x draft pick', but I'm there now.

I hope we dive to 30th and draft Ekblad. Keep him the hell away from the big club, let him develop at his own pace away from the losing. Fire the coaching staff and get rid of Lowe. A new coach would most likely bugger us in the standings once again, which would hopefully allow us to draft McDavid. Keep Hall and Nuge, maybe Yak.

Hall, Nuge, Yak, McDavid, Nurse, Ekblad. That's a core I could get behind.

EDIT: Just to elaborate a bit more, this gives us two centres in RNH and McDavid, two possible first line D men in Nurse and Ekblad, and hopefully the goalie situation can be worked out via free agency or a trade. I remember a couple years ago DSF was ranting about drafting centres and D men before wingers. Damn was I ever sure he was full of it.

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#136 RexHolez
January 16 2014, 10:21PM
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Jackson wrote:

As an Oiler fan I have to agree with you. Oilers Organization is an embarrassment. City of losers

Is it hard climbing up on such a high horse everyday?

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#137 Jeffery
January 16 2014, 10:52PM
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How much money does KLowe make a year?

How much money does Eakins make a year?

How much money does MacT make a year?

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#138 Rick Stroppel
January 16 2014, 01:04PM
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HISTORY OF THE OILERS

Once upon a time, in 1985, a man bought a video store. He carefully researched the matter and decided that Betamax was better than VHS. Nobody rented his tapes. He was very stubborn! He kept buying Betamax tapes. After EIGHT YEARS of losing huge amounts of money, he got a great idea. "I will just trade all my Betamax tapes for VHS tapes because nobody wants Betamax tapes."

Poor silly man!

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#139 match16
January 16 2014, 02:06PM
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BRHLBryce wrote:

Plus Hendricks is an absolute ACE in the shootout. No mention of that?

9 of 15 for his career prior to this season.

Who says he has no skill?

He will be fine in the bottom 6, replace Jones with a more protypical depth player.

The Paralyzer!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb5A4Ri2iZo

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#140 Ricky
January 16 2014, 02:37PM
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It is not easy to hold the title of worst team in the NHL for 7. 5 years. You need moves like Hendricks to keep the title.

Management is a joke a bunch of amateurs that have convinced Daryl Katz they are professionals.

Any poster here could have done a poorly as management in the last 7.5 years

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#141 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
January 16 2014, 04:28PM
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BLAKPOO wrote:

Thank you!

It's easy to understand why everyone's so mad, we've been terrible for so long. But MacT is actually trying to fix the problems. It takes two to dance - just because we all want Shea Weber and Boone Jenner doesn't mean they can be had.

He's added Perron, Gordon, Joensuu, Ference, Bryzgalov, Hendricks and Scrivens. He's also done this moving only a few picks and the junk from a bottom dwelling hockey club.

I seriously don't see how people can think he's been ineffectual. You can't become a cup winning team in one year, dealing from a huge point of weakness as we are. Tambo would still be sitting on his hands, counting the light fixtures in Rexall.

Ragging on the guys he's brought in to help before you actually see if they're able to contribute is just wrong. Any moves is good moves for this club.

Welcome to Edmonton, Ben and Matt. Here's to finding success with our team!

The team got WORSE under Mact's first year and you " seriously don't see how people can think he's been ineffectual" HIS TEAM IS WORSE!!! thats how people think he is ineffectual

your a Troll or on the Oiler payroll. Perron been good

Gordon ok

Joensuu has brought nothing

Ference has made no difference at all

Bryz is what he was in Philly. Overrated

you forgot grebeshkov. remember how Mact knew this guy was ready for a good year after being away from the NHL

Belov "personally scouted by macT" is average at best

take your PR efforts to the Oilers site where it belongs

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#142 Serious Gord
January 16 2014, 04:36PM
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Glen Healey says he can't believe thAt Nashville got out from under Hendricks' contract.

That makes at least two of us.

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#143 RexHolez
January 16 2014, 07:27PM
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I'm really getting tired of looking at Bucky and Smith standing on the bench.

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#144 outdoorzguy
January 16 2014, 08:34PM
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Please...let this be the last night of the Marx Brothers on the bench!!

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#145 RexHolez
January 16 2014, 08:38PM
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#oilerspositives - every player was wearing the right numbered jersey and name plate!!! Amazing!!!

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#146 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
January 16 2014, 08:49PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

This is it, I'm asking what it would take Hendricks and Scrivens to do so people can say, "yeah that was a great trade and I'm glad we got these guys!"

What kindof numbers do these players have to put up for people to be satisfied ?

As everything about this season is a write off, all I am hoping for is that the new players settle in alright and the end of the season they say that this was a great move for them, and maybe attract other free agent players to come here and try to bring the glory back that has been long gone.

This team will continue to lose. Management is bad. A change is needed in the whole culture for there to be any progess. If a fool is making your decisions then the results will always be less than desirable.

Bringing in 4th liner forwards and unproven back up goalies is not going to get this on track.

There is no way we will say this is a great trade because it was far from great anything.

Once again if your leaders can't do their job then all those under the umbrella are handicapped. When the leaders cant make good decisions it is time for new leadership.

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#147 Jerod
January 16 2014, 10:14PM
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Tear it down

get rid of all the coaches get rid of Klowe get rid of MacT

Find someone who understands how to build a team.

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#148 Arius Mumin
January 16 2014, 01:49PM
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*if you don't look at the two faces-the picture of those two broads is amazing.

Dubnyk was a weak golatender, presence wise, he never exerted confidence between the pipes: just kind of stood there and moved sometimes.

Hendricks on the 4th line, will be better than any player he replaces that was there the game before.

When did Smyth become a centre? C'mon man! Really Eakins?

6-2 for the Wild tonight, Scrivens gets a rude introduction into the life as an Oiler

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#149 rob
January 16 2014, 03:42PM
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If you look at macts body of work he is slowly changing the mix of this team,scrivens is ahead of dubnyk by a lot,he got rid of horricable,brought in perron(best oiler besides from hall)picked up ferrencebrought in hendricks,so while nothing is bold he is doing a good job,will reserve any negativity till I see what he does this sommer and trade deadline

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#150 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

I guess I'm in the camp of let's see what happens, I am curious though as everyone seems to be ripping Hendricks because he chose Nashville over the Oil and that he is not worth 2 million. His interview sounded like he was looking forwards to playing for the Oil and in hindsight that he may have made a mistake in picking Nashville over the Oil, he seems to feel that he has something to prove which is always a good sign.

I do wonder though what it would take for him to shake off this tag he has already about being a waste? What would he need to do to justify his price tag and that he was worth trading for? I can' t really figure out what everyone wants.

I think he could be a decent asset to the Oil who lack size and grit and the ability to win face offs, I watched a few YouTube videos of him which of course don't show a lot, though his "paralyser" move in shootouts is pretty impressive so if he can be a guy who gets the puck on the breakaway, he could put a few in.

As for Scrivens, let's see what happens, it seems everyone knows the issue here is the Oil's porous defence so again, what would it take for him to be considered a decent choice?

I would have been shocked if he was head over heels excited to come here as he is leaving a team with a pretty decent shot at winning the cup and the Oil are almost booking their tee times. He is playing for a contract somewhere and teams look at stats and he is going to have to play like a Demi god to come out of the season looking half decent. I have only known of one player in recent years who have requested a trade to the Oil and that was Smyth so whether we like it or not, the Oil aren't a great destination for a player for the time being, maybe that will change in a few years, I hope so.

I'm only asking this stuff as a lot of people are ragging about both of them and this can't make it any easier to attract players if the second they are part of the Oil, they are already considered wastes before they even play a game.

I hope they both do alright and as we have Hendricks for a few years, I especially hope that he can prove that he is a bargain at 2 million and not a waste.

As for Dubnyk leaving, I'm looking forwards to seeing how he plays in a different system, maybe without the pressure here he might do alright and as he seems like a nice enough guy, I hope for the best for him.

I dont think the players coming in are too worried that the fans are in a bad mood. They know the standings. The Oil have been crap for the better part of a Decade. players know and thats why they dont want to be here.

Dont listen to the laForge school of spin and blame the fans. This disaster is 100% on oiler management.

They need to be gone so they can stop making dumb trades and signings.

I have no idea about hendricks but who cares because he is a 4th liner not a difference maker.

Scrivens...Dude i am so sorry you had to come home to this garbage. Good luck but even Georges Vezina himself would have bad numbers behind this defense

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