Slow but steady

Jason Strudwick
January 17 2014 07:26AM

When Craig Mactavish took over as Oilers GM he said the Oilers needed to be harder to play against. Move by move he is slowly grinding this Oiler team in that direction.

Since taking over he has added Andrew Ference, Boyd Gordon, David Perron, Luke Gazdic and most recently Matt Hendricks.

This is a group of players that should make playing against the Oilers less enjoyable than it has been. Nearly every game this year, teams play against the Oilers and their teams trainers don't even bother turning on the ice machine. There is no need for ice bags. These games are not physical.

That had to change. The Oilers inability to challenge teams physically or even match it has been a big issue. Take a look at the Pacific Division! These are big heavy teams, with skill, that most nights push the Oilers around. I don't even want to think about the oilers matching up in a seven-game playoff series against the Kings or Blues! They would lose in three.

Hendricks is a player I thought the Oilers needed to bring in last summer. I have no issue with his cap hit per year. The cap will continue to go up and the Oilers are not in a cap crunch. The issue is the term. I wonder what Hendricks will bring in year four.

He is a physical player that should, I hope, help the oilers connect emotionally with their games. You can't win or have success in the NHL without passion and emotion in your game. This Oilers squad is vanilla basically to a man. There are a few exceptions but not enough. I hope Hendricks comes into the dressing room and stirs up the pot. On the ice, I expect him to chirp and drag other guys into getting pissed off!

Think back to when Yakupov got into it with basically the whole Winnipeg Jets team. It was beautiful! That is one of the few times I saw the Oilers bench on their feet and passion on the guys faces. There is no stat to measure the value of passion but I know it is so important to team moral and confidence. Without it, a team sleep walks through games.

There is still work to be done for MacT. He needs to find a way to bring in edgy players to the top six forwards. These players are hard to get. Sorting out the bottom six is the easier job but slowly the team is starting to get some heart.

Old Goalie out, New Goalie in

Does this even matter? NO. It doesn't.

The overall team defence hasn't changed for the Oilers. Why should we expect Ben Scrivens to come in and have more success? This isn't me saying Scrivens can't be a decent goalie. The facts are that any goalie with an Oilers jersey will see shots and chances against that he will not believe.

Scrivens has been playing behind the Los Angeles Kings and that group controls shots against as good as any team in the NHL. Scrivens is in for rude wakeup call here. He will need to be on his toes the whole sixty minutes.

I like the test drive that the rest of the season brings for the oilers to watch Scrivens up close. I am not convinced he is an upgrade on Dubnyk but we can all watch him close up and form an opinion. Keep an eye on his glove had. He holds it to high which makes most saves a downward motion instead of up. That is the harder way.

I see no reason why Scrivens shouldn't start the bulk of the games the rest of this season. I would expect that Bryz will not be back with the oilers next year. So far he has done nothing to suggest he is the man for the Oilers. I think the team will look to a potential UFA like Jaroslav Halak or Jonas Hiller or make a trade for a guy like Cam Ward. The backup will most likely by Scrivens. In other words: two new goalies to start next season.

I believe Dubnyk is a good goalie. He is the luckiest person in Edmonton right now. He probably skipped all the way to Nashville. The Predators have a history of building goalies. The Preds play a pretty good defensive game. Dubnyk will get a chance to work with Mitch Corn, the Preds goalie coach. He has had success with tall goalies.

Public Breakups

I witnessed a breakup at Starbucks this morning. In fact I had a front row seat and decided to live tweet it! Surrounded by 20 or so people this lady gave her man an outright release.

I don't normally get into other peoples nightmares but I was literally sitting right beside them. Once it started I couldn't stop listening.

This poor guy was dropped like he was hot over a double chai latte. I will give him credit he did fight for it but she wasn't buying his "I will change" or "You deserve better from me" lines.

She shut him down and was convinced a breakup was the right way to go. This is where it got painful to watch.

Judging by their conversation I would guess they hadn't been together long. But this guy was determined not to lose her! It was embarrassing to say the least. At some point shouldn't you just take your lumps and move on? Not this guy! It wasn't like Jen Aniston was breaking up with him.

In the end they both got up and gave the most awkward hug I have ever seen. she says "We will be in touch soon". From what I saw there is no chance that will happen.

What is the right way to break up with someone these days? I know for sure doing it at Starbucks at 9:30 AM is a very cold way to do it.

I guess it is better than by text.

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Jason hosts the Jason Strudwick show from 9pm to 12am, weeknights on the team 1260. He is an instructor at Mount Carmel Hockey Academy and loves working with the kids. Having played over 650 games in the NHL, Jason has some great stories and unique takes on life in the NHL. He loves Slurpees and Blizzards. Dislikes baggy clothes and close talkers.
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#51 RexHolez
January 17 2014, 10:28AM
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Question: how long until this team goes from worst team in the league to "worst team in the history of the league?"

That's a legitimate question, and yet the man responsible for this situation is still in place??

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#52 Puck JammeR!
January 17 2014, 10:31AM
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RexHolez wrote:

Question: how long until this team goes from worst team in the league to "worst team in the history of the league?"

That's a legitimate question, and yet the man responsible for this situation is still in place??

I don't know, but we're definitely getting there.

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#53 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
January 17 2014, 10:34AM
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outdoorzguy wrote:

I hope the 4 idiots don't make it to Winnipeg. But when we lose on Saturday afternoon, that should be their last game behind the bench. If it's not, this once proud franchise will have become an abortion of a supposed professional sports organization.

Too Late we are already there

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#54 Lochenzo
January 17 2014, 10:39AM
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Wow, an early morning - before they've had their coffee - breakup. That's perfect!! They won't see it coming and their wits are a little groggy out of the gate. I'll have to remember that one!

I really like the addition of Hendricks. Here's a guy that's spent most of his career in the AHL and made it to the show by working hard and doing the little things right. Taylor Hall, RNH and Yakupov made the direct jump to the NHL based primarily on their high skill level. I hope that these kids learn some of the lessons Hendricks did through the school of hard knocks.

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#55 They're $hittie
January 17 2014, 10:39AM
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they're still $hitty

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#56 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
January 17 2014, 10:41AM
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pkam wrote:

Kureger was out of Edmonton. I don't know where he was at the time. I heard he might be in Toronto or Switzerland.

So what other options does MacT have? Text Kureger, call Kureger, ask Kureger to fly back to Edmonton to tell him face to face that he is fired, or MacT flied all the way to tell Kureger face to face he is fired, or Skype him? Any other option that I miss?

And which one do you thing is the most appropriate choice?

You show class and treat the man with dignity and fly out to meet with him. MacT said coaching wasn't the problem then fires him after talking on the phone with Eakins.

Talk about bad karma.

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#57 outdoorzguy
January 17 2014, 10:43AM
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So it appears that the media (Anthony Vasquez-Peddie, Edmonton Sun) has driven a wedge into Scrivens...what, two days after we get him? Now we have to look for another goalie in the summer to replace him because of the "Warm" welcome he received. Maybe instead of going after the guys wife, he should have directed his angst at team management and the coaching staff. This organization has a free pass. They don't care what the fans say. The media are on a first name basis with everyone on the team. How long will they get away with this. Go after the guys wife. That's classy Edmonton media. No wonder nobody comes to play here.

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#58 tileguy
January 17 2014, 10:46AM
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@outdoorzguy

can you send a link please.

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#59 outdoorzguy
January 17 2014, 10:49AM
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tileguy wrote:

can you send a link please.

http://blogs.canoe.ca/slam/hockey/biggest-loser-in-oilers-kings-trade-mrs-scrivens/

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#60 Andrew
January 17 2014, 10:53AM
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Most of Mac's moves have amounted to nothing more than nibbling at the edges if the real issues. That would be the top six pussies and the most gutless D in the league. I don't see how Petry and Schultz Sr can stay on this team period. I don't see any way they can find 4 D in the near term. Hall looks like Eakins has ripped his heart for the game right iut of his chest.

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#61 Puck JammeR!
January 17 2014, 10:59AM
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Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle both try to be the first one to wake up so they can be the one to cross off another day on their "Days Until Free Agency" calendar.

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#62 emonkee
January 17 2014, 11:08AM
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outdoorzguy wrote:

So it appears that the media (Anthony Vasquez-Peddie, Edmonton Sun) has driven a wedge into Scrivens...what, two days after we get him? Now we have to look for another goalie in the summer to replace him because of the "Warm" welcome he received. Maybe instead of going after the guys wife, he should have directed his angst at team management and the coaching staff. This organization has a free pass. They don't care what the fans say. The media are on a first name basis with everyone on the team. How long will they get away with this. Go after the guys wife. That's classy Edmonton media. No wonder nobody comes to play here.

I 100% agree. It's not like Edmonton is every player's favorite destination. And now you have an idiot (AVP) posting about the player's family...now that's getting personal.

There is absolutely no remorse from AVP.

"Vasquez-Peddie responded to Ben Scrivens's tweets later in the evening, explaining it was just a tongue-in-cheek feature."

Wonder how he feels if we write about his family.....!

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#63 bazmagoo
January 17 2014, 11:15AM
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Players families should really be off limits for criticism, I even thought it was offside when it happened with Pronger. It's classless, gutless, childish, and most importantly, poor journalism. NHL players lead public lives I'll give you that, but criticism should be kept to their hockey playing abilities/attitudes in the locker room. Give the families some privacy and respect your professional boundaries douchbag!

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#64 pkam
January 17 2014, 11:18AM
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reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan) wrote:

You show class and treat the man with dignity and fly out to meet with him. MacT said coaching wasn't the problem then fires him after talking on the phone with Eakins.

Talk about bad karma.

I disagree with you. I think it is very rude to call Kureger in to tell him the bad news. And it is unnecessary to fly all the way just to tell him the bad news. Text is totally lack of respect. Skype is better than a phone call.

MacT never said Kureger was the problem. He said he found a better coach that he believed could help the team more so he made a hard decision. He already said it was unfair to Kureger.

Are you suggesting that he shouldn't make any change that he thought would improve the team? Why would we want a GM who will not do what he thinks will improve the team? You can question his ability or judgement, but how can you blame him for trying?

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#65 emonkee
January 17 2014, 11:21AM
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Andrew wrote:

Most of Mac's moves have amounted to nothing more than nibbling at the edges if the real issues. That would be the top six pussies and the most gutless D in the league. I don't see how Petry and Schultz Sr can stay on this team period. I don't see any way they can find 4 D in the near term. Hall looks like Eakins has ripped his heart for the game right iut of his chest.

No one is going to give up a top 4D, especially as we inch toward the playoffs....I doubt MacT can do anything until the off season. To get a top 4D, we have to give up something, not sure what piece yet...

You can ride on Petry all you want, but he is, unfortunately, the best we have got. NSchultz will be gone for sure, either trade deadline or UFA if no taker.

It's pretty thin this year in the UFA pool for D.

Age

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#66 Walter Sobchak
January 17 2014, 11:31AM
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Sisyphus wrote:

Not true. We just don't have anything that we both can and WILL trade with. The very few number of tradeable assets (players that we might have another team interested in) are the same ones MacT has all but said are absolutely untouchable.

This is True, but for my point I just said zero assets.

At this point the way Eakins is talking & using Yakupov he might even have lower trade value then Gagner!

It's pretty grim.

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#67 Jason Gregor
January 17 2014, 11:34AM
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outdoorzguy wrote:

So it appears that the media (Anthony Vasquez-Peddie, Edmonton Sun) has driven a wedge into Scrivens...what, two days after we get him? Now we have to look for another goalie in the summer to replace him because of the "Warm" welcome he received. Maybe instead of going after the guys wife, he should have directed his angst at team management and the coaching staff. This organization has a free pass. They don't care what the fans say. The media are on a first name basis with everyone on the team. How long will they get away with this. Go after the guys wife. That's classy Edmonton media. No wonder nobody comes to play here.

You just proved why you shouldn't be a reporter.

The guy, Anthony Vasquez, is from Toronto not Edmonton. He is the online editor for their Sun Chain. He lives in TORONTO.

He isn't a reporter, he is an editor. He edits stories, he doesn't interview people or go find stories.

Feel free to critique people in the media, but don't look foolish and lump everyone into the same "media" pool. And next time you want to attack someone, or the entire "media" group at least be smart enough to know where the person resides....

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#68 Walter Sobchak
January 17 2014, 11:40AM
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pkam wrote:

I disagree with you. I think it is very rude to call Kureger in to tell him the bad news. And it is unnecessary to fly all the way just to tell him the bad news. Text is totally lack of respect. Skype is better than a phone call.

MacT never said Kureger was the problem. He said he found a better coach that he believed could help the team more so he made a hard decision. He already said it was unfair to Kureger.

Are you suggesting that he shouldn't make any change that he thought would improve the team? Why would we want a GM who will not do what he thinks will improve the team? You can question his ability or judgement, but how can you blame him for trying?

Yet it's ok for MacTavish to fly to Sweden to watch one game of Klefbom and declare he's " seen enough to know"

It's ok to fly to mother Russia and declare that Grebeshkov still has game!

He can't board Katz private jet fly out for the day to see a coach he just told to take his summer break, that he will handle the finding of a co-coach for Krueger.

Instead, "screw it I found a new coach so I don't really need to fly because I'm firing him anyways"? This is fine with you?

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#69 Randaman
January 17 2014, 11:45AM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

The Oilers can't possible go any slower!

The addition of Hendricks really showed the Oilers new found toughness, I especially like how Yakupov had his head rammed in by Cooke, then the Oilers did nothing.

The Oilers need players like, Kesller, Dubinsky, Hartnel, Ott, Clowe, skill veterans, strong and competitive.

Problem is the Oilers have nothing to trade with, zero.

CORRECTION! They have lots to trade with but they won't part with a key piece to improve the TEAM! Gags and Eberle are expendable if the right pieces are returned (#2 Center or #2 Defenceman). I like Ebs but something has to give doesn't it? Oh ya, forgot what ineptness we have for management.

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January 17 2014, 11:50AM
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#71 Serious Gord
January 17 2014, 11:53AM
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Without doubt the two best break-up songs ever:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NHOf3s70w-c

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp5Rdb9ncfM

Enjoy.

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#72 loweblows
January 17 2014, 12:22PM
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At least she broke up with him face to face. MacT dumped Krueger via SKYPE. Classy.

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#73 Dog Train
January 17 2014, 12:26PM
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I had to laugh when twice in the first period last night an Oilers defenseman ran into Scrivens. Welcome to the Oilers! Not to mention the mini shorthanded 2 on 0 we gave up or two players covering one guy behind the net while Pominville is allowed to cruise to the net wide open. Patrick Roy couldn't even play net for this sorry excuse of a team.

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#74 Rick Stroppel
January 17 2014, 12:26PM
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reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan) wrote:

You show class and treat the man with dignity and fly out to meet with him. MacT said coaching wasn't the problem then fires him after talking on the phone with Eakins.

Talk about bad karma.

CLASSY GUY

I heard an interview of Kreuger where he talked about the firing. He was in Switzerland, at home. His wife was in the next room. Krueger was asked how he reacted and he said something like "I was OK but my wife was swearing a blue streak". By now Krueger has probably figured out that he is well out of this endless cluster-fug.

Krueger is a classy guy, unlike those arrogant braggarts Lowe and MacTavish. Edmonton is a SMALL POND. You might be arrogant too if fans and media were pumping your tires FOR YEARS despite your obvious failure. Posters on this site continue to praise MacTavish. Using big words (often I appropriately) does not make you an intelligent person. Somebody please tell me what MacTavish has accomplished in the last seven years. How many decades do you propose to give him to turn the team around?

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#75 Tikkanese
January 17 2014, 12:30PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Players families should really be off limits for criticism, I even thought it was offside when it happened with Pronger. It's classless, gutless, childish, and most importantly, poor journalism. NHL players lead public lives I'll give you that, but criticism should be kept to their hockey playing abilities/attitudes in the locker room. Give the families some privacy and respect your professional boundaries douchbag!

Yeah but to cover up Pronger's infidelities with the smokescreen stories about how his wife hated the city and the weather is worse. It paints an entire city instead of just one person.

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#76 loweblows
January 17 2014, 12:38PM
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MacT said he hired Billy Moores to help coach the coaches. Two questions. Does that make Billy Moores the head coach? Secondly, does any other franchise in pro sports have a coaching coach? Anybody? Or is this only in the bizzaro world of Oiler management?

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#77 Oiler Al
January 17 2014, 12:39PM
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Jason, you sure that the couple you speak of breaking up at Starbucks, wasnt Katz , talking to Lowe. We would be so lucky. Then again Katz and Lowe are going steady?

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#78 outdoorzguy
January 17 2014, 12:48PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

You just proved why you shouldn't be a reporter.

The guy, Anthony Vasquez, is from Toronto not Edmonton. He is the online editor for their Sun Chain. He lives in TORONTO.

He isn't a reporter, he is an editor. He edits stories, he doesn't interview people or go find stories.

Feel free to critique people in the media, but don't look foolish and lump everyone into the same "media" pool. And next time you want to attack someone, or the entire "media" group at least be smart enough to know where the person resides....

I guess you kinda answered for me. I never knew the jerk was from Toronto. I would think that in order to become an Editor, one would have spent time in the trenches as a reporter. Maybe not? But the EDMONTON SUN ran the story. They didn't have to. Don't they have editors?

As for the media pool, especially in Edmonton I only consider one person real media and that's McKinnon. He asked a hard question once. I don't see anyone else asking anything tough. But I understand you wouldn't want to lose your pre-game meal privileges or your cushy stool on the catwalk. Yeah you had Lowe on your show last week but you let him off the hook. It was the one opportunity someone had to ask some of the questions the class 1 and class 2 fans are asking. But nope. No guts. I suppose now you'll get really mad at me because I disagree with you, just like you do to anyone who calls your show.

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#79 Dave
January 17 2014, 12:48PM
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Gregor is getting a little crabby in his responses.

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#80 bazmagoo
January 17 2014, 01:02PM
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@Tikkanese

True but all of it is still none of our business. It should never have come out that Pronger wanted a trade, it should have been done quietly. Guess who get's the blame for that? #KLOWEMUSTGO

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#81 MWA1991
January 17 2014, 01:06PM
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Why is no one addressing the fact that he's giving away all the Oil's upcoming draft picks with his tinckering? I read somewhere where now only have the first round pick out of the top 100+ picks? 2,3, and 4th are gone? But got a 4th back on the Brown trade which will be like a 5th. Edmonton is not Detroit. If we can't trade for the studs we need, and we need to draft them, wouldn't it be wise to stockpile picks instead of giving them all away?

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#82 Oilbaron
January 17 2014, 01:15PM
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The defense has always been the team's most glaring weakness. Isn't is about time they find a replacement for Steve Smith???

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#83 Johnnydapunk
January 17 2014, 01:26PM
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@ Mr. Strudwick

Found this article from in goal magazine where Scrivens talks about his high glove hand which might explain the reasoning behind it. Not sure how on topic it is but was good nonetheless.

In Goal Mag Ben Scrivens

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#84 Wonger
January 17 2014, 01:26PM
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Pinnizotto is tough as nails, has bite to his game and can play! Keep going MACT!!!!! Great job!!! WONGER'S GETTING A WOODIE!!!!! OIL getting tougher!!!!!

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#85 gcw_rocks
January 17 2014, 01:26PM
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"Hendricks is a player I thought the Oilers needed to bring in last summer. I have no issue with his cap hit per year. The cap will continue to go up and the Oilers are not in a cap crunch. The issue is the term. I wonder what Hendricks will bring in year four."

This is wrong on many fronts:

1) Every dollar you overspend on your bottom pairing and fourth line is a dollar you cant spend on an important line. Top teams spend about 4% of thier cap space on the 4th line on average. In a $70M cap world, that's about $2.8M. This guy chews up $1.9M of it.

2) He is 32, the age where players of his type start to break down, and when they decline it tends to be rapid. Eric Belanger, anyone? But the Oilers took him on for 3 more years.

3) MacT himself said the team can't win with players on the ice where the best thing you could hope for is no one scores. This is Hendricks to a tee.

On MacT could take a situation where the worst probably outcome was the Oilers got no value from losing Dubnyk, and found a way to get negative value through a player that can't score (his offense in Washington came playing with Ovechkin and Ribeiro - what he was doing on the ice with those players is baffling, but he won't be playing with that calibre of player here), is paid way too much for his role, and it likely to crater long before his contract runs out.

Only the Oilers.

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#86 Tikkanese
January 17 2014, 01:30PM
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MWA1991 wrote:

Why is no one addressing the fact that he's giving away all the Oil's upcoming draft picks with his tinckering? I read somewhere where now only have the first round pick out of the top 100+ picks? 2,3, and 4th are gone? But got a 4th back on the Brown trade which will be like a 5th. Edmonton is not Detroit. If we can't trade for the studs we need, and we need to draft them, wouldn't it be wise to stockpile picks instead of giving them all away?

I think everyone would agree the 2nd rounder + PRV for Perron was an absolute steal.

3rd round and later have like 10% and less odds of becoming regular NHL'ers, let alone good players. We also have tons of prospects now and not enough NHL'ers. I am all for the trading away of these low chance picks for NHL'ers.

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#87 Tikkanese
January 17 2014, 01:33PM
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gcw_rocks wrote:

"Hendricks is a player I thought the Oilers needed to bring in last summer. I have no issue with his cap hit per year. The cap will continue to go up and the Oilers are not in a cap crunch. The issue is the term. I wonder what Hendricks will bring in year four."

This is wrong on many fronts:

1) Every dollar you overspend on your bottom pairing and fourth line is a dollar you cant spend on an important line. Top teams spend about 4% of thier cap space on the 4th line on average. In a $70M cap world, that's about $2.8M. This guy chews up $1.9M of it.

2) He is 32, the age where players of his type start to break down, and when they decline it tends to be rapid. Eric Belanger, anyone? But the Oilers took him on for 3 more years.

3) MacT himself said the team can't win with players on the ice where the best thing you could hope for is no one scores. This is Hendricks to a tee.

On MacT could take a situation where the worst probably outcome was the Oilers got no value from losing Dubnyk, and found a way to get negative value through a player that can't score (his offense in Washington came playing with Ovechkin and Ribeiro - what he was doing on the ice with those players is baffling, but he won't be playing with that calibre of player here), is paid way too much for his role, and it likely to crater long before his contract runs out.

Only the Oilers.

Way to know absolutely nothing about Hendricks the player. He brings elements badly lacking on the Oilers that more than make up for your offensive wishes for the 4th line.

He is nothing like Eric Belanger.

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#88 Kr55
January 17 2014, 01:38PM
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On pace for 57 points and the worst Oilers season of all time. There is nothing slow and steady about this season, we're at a complete halt and starting to tip backwards.

The only player that we got that apparently is hard to play against with any size is Gazdic, and he's not good at actual hockey. And we traded away Smid so we could have the softest D in the NHL.

Sorry to be a downer, but this team is not harder to play against compared to last season. The record reflects that. Also, how we are absolutely terrible against western teams compared to last year really leaves no room to defend MacT or Eakins. 13 games under .500 vs the west this season while being dominated in the vast majority of those games. Krueger had us 3 games under .500.

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#89 TigerUnderGlass
January 17 2014, 01:51PM
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It wasn't like Jen Aniston was breaking up with him.

I don't believe Jennifer Anniston has ever broken up with anyone.

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#90 TigerUnderGlass
January 17 2014, 01:53PM
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@Tikkanese

He is nothing like Eric Belanger.

If by this you mean, "he has never been as good as Belanger had been his entire career before coming to Edmonton," you are correct.

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#91 Still Hopin
January 17 2014, 01:55PM
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Come on that is not the problem.

The brain trust at the top is not smart enough. Edmonton Media needs to recognize that Lowe and Mac-T are NOT SMART Hockey minds.

They were journey man ex-players, that is it. Even the best player in the world couldn't coach in Phoenix.

For the past 14 years during Lowe's reign, the Oilers have had the WORST record in the NHL. That is not disputable. It is a fact.

You could take someone who knows nothing about hockey and give them 14 years, they will do at least as well as Lowe. Statistically speaking, it would be very highly improbable to do this bad. That does not say that individual is good, but what is does say is Lowe is a REALLY REALLY BAD hockey executive. In fact, he may be the worst in history (someone look it up).

So would a player want to play with a management team that has produced the worse team over 14 years. NO WAY. That is the problem. GET rid of Lowe and Mac T. Time for new management with a plan and understanding of what it takes to make a good team. Enough of the journey man hockey dribble.

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#92 Valter
January 17 2014, 01:57PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Yet it's ok for MacTavish to fly to Sweden to watch one game of Klefbom and declare he's " seen enough to know"

It's ok to fly to mother Russia and declare that Grebeshkov still has game!

He can't board Katz private jet fly out for the day to see a coach he just told to take his summer break, that he will handle the finding of a co-coach for Krueger.

Instead, "screw it I found a new coach so I don't really need to fly because I'm firing him anyways"? This is fine with you?

VALTER VALTER, VALTER................!!!!!!!

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#93 TigerUnderGlass
January 17 2014, 02:07PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Yet it's ok for MacTavish to fly to Sweden to watch one game of Klefbom and declare he's " seen enough to know"

It's ok to fly to mother Russia and declare that Grebeshkov still has game!

He can't board Katz private jet fly out for the day to see a coach he just told to take his summer break, that he will handle the finding of a co-coach for Krueger.

Instead, "screw it I found a new coach so I don't really need to fly because I'm firing him anyways"? This is fine with you?

People are still talking about this? It doesn't matter.

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#94 Tikkanese
January 17 2014, 02:08PM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:
He is nothing like Eric Belanger.

If by this you mean, "he has never been as good as Belanger had been his entire career before coming to Edmonton," you are correct.

If by good you mean, soft as kleenex and has no heart, then you are correct.

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#95 Pucker
January 17 2014, 02:09PM
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emonkee wrote:

No one is going to give up a top 4D, especially as we inch toward the playoffs....I doubt MacT can do anything until the off season. To get a top 4D, we have to give up something, not sure what piece yet...

You can ride on Petry all you want, but he is, unfortunately, the best we have got. NSchultz will be gone for sure, either trade deadline or UFA if no taker.

It's pretty thin this year in the UFA pool for D.

Age

Waiting for the off season to do anything???

Oilers seem to be doing that every year. What is the off-season? 2 months. You have maybe 2 weeks of that two months to compete against 29 other teams trying for the one's that will help, while they're pretty well a least desirable destination.

I agree with other Posters. Any goalie that signs here is going to have their resume blown to shreds. Any defenseman is going to have to work his butt off because the puck will be in the defensive zone most the game while howitzers get fired towards the net. Any forward - well there's a lot to list here. . Bottom line is despite the weather and travel associated with Edmonton, the team just isn't good. Given a choice, who's going to pick them? Schultz did but I'm sure he's questioning that decision now.

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#96 Tikkanese
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Kr55 wrote:

On pace for 57 points and the worst Oilers season of all time. There is nothing slow and steady about this season, we're at a complete halt and starting to tip backwards.

The only player that we got that apparently is hard to play against with any size is Gazdic, and he's not good at actual hockey. And we traded away Smid so we could have the softest D in the NHL.

Sorry to be a downer, but this team is not harder to play against compared to last season. The record reflects that. Also, how we are absolutely terrible against western teams compared to last year really leaves no room to defend MacT or Eakins. 13 games under .500 vs the west this season while being dominated in the vast majority of those games. Krueger had us 3 games under .500.

So Perron, Ference, Gordon or now Hendricks are not hard to play against?

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#97 gcw_rocks
January 17 2014, 02:24PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

Way to know absolutely nothing about Hendricks the player. He brings elements badly lacking on the Oilers that more than make up for your offensive wishes for the 4th line.

He is nothing like Eric Belanger.

Positive shot differential at even strength? Nope.

Moderate offence? Nope.

Value contract? Nope.

What are these elements that you speak of?

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#98 emonkee
January 17 2014, 02:38PM
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Pucker wrote:

Waiting for the off season to do anything???

Oilers seem to be doing that every year. What is the off-season? 2 months. You have maybe 2 weeks of that two months to compete against 29 other teams trying for the one's that will help, while they're pretty well a least desirable destination.

I agree with other Posters. Any goalie that signs here is going to have their resume blown to shreds. Any defenseman is going to have to work his butt off because the puck will be in the defensive zone most the game while howitzers get fired towards the net. Any forward - well there's a lot to list here. . Bottom line is despite the weather and travel associated with Edmonton, the team just isn't good. Given a choice, who's going to pick them? Schultz did but I'm sure he's questioning that decision now.

Yes I think Schultz will think twice before resigning here....

what I was saying earlier was the top 4D in the teams that are in playoffs or in playoff contention are most likely not going to be a trading partner for us. And the team looking from the outside aren't going to part ways with their study D unless you give up a key piece.

The UFA is definitely thin. There are only 2 guys we may want that are under 30, and they aren't even the 1LD we want.

Whatever the case is...we will have to overpay for them to come...

You got anyone in mind?

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#99 Tikkanese
January 17 2014, 02:40PM
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gcw_rocks wrote:

Positive shot differential at even strength? Nope.

Moderate offence? Nope.

Value contract? Nope.

What are these elements that you speak of?

Oh let's see.

Little things called:

compete level

plays with size

has been known to stick up for teammates

even drops the gloves once in a while... All the Gazdic haters should be rejoicing

You know, things everyone and their dog has been asking for the Oilers to get more of in the top 6, bottom 6 and on defense. He just happens to be a bottom 6 that we have for up to 3.5 years for a failed goalie that was not going to be re-signed in the summer.

He's also more of a winger than a center but is adept at winning faceoffs(about the only thing he shares with Belanger) as well as being a useful penalty killer.

Not every trade can be a David Perron. He's still a big upgrade over Will Acton, Eric Belanger, Lennart Pettrel and even Anton Lander at this point. Why does everyone have to be such "Negative Nancy's" about every little transaction?

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#100 Johnnydapunk
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outdoorzguy wrote:

So it appears that the media (Anthony Vasquez-Peddie, Edmonton Sun) has driven a wedge into Scrivens...what, two days after we get him? Now we have to look for another goalie in the summer to replace him because of the "Warm" welcome he received. Maybe instead of going after the guys wife, he should have directed his angst at team management and the coaching staff. This organization has a free pass. They don't care what the fans say. The media are on a first name basis with everyone on the team. How long will they get away with this. Go after the guys wife. That's classy Edmonton media. No wonder nobody comes to play here.

I think there is one thing that is completely missed by seemingly everyone here.

That Vazquez Peddie Muppet is a writer for the Toronto Sun and writes for the Leafs and Jays, he has nothing to do with Edmonton except for the fact that the Edmonton Sun is part of Quebecor Corp and they share articles nationwide.

I have no idea of the article appeared in the Edmonton Sun or not, either way it would have been online and easily seen and Scrivens must have assumed it was from Edmonton.

What sucks is that everyone Scrivens included, thinks that it was an article by someone who is Edmonton based, which makes the Oil look even worse when it wasn't anything like that.

I hope this isn't like I'm defending Vasquez, but I hope that Scrivens and others see it's not anything to do with Edmonton. Though I am guessing the damage is done already.

This oversight does maybe say something about the rest of the NHL's view on being in Edmonton though, which is not so good.

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