Martin Marincin good, too much else bad

Jonathan Willis
January 24 2014 10:55PM

 

Martin Marincin continues to impress just over 100 games into his professional career. He was asked to take on heavy minutes in the Oilers' 4-3 loss to Phoenix on Friday, and unlike so many others on the team he didn't disappoint. 

Marincin picked up his first career NHL point against the Coyotes and played a career-high 23:53, the third time in the last six games that the rookie has topped the 20:00 mark. He finished the game plus-one, which makes him one of very few Oilers to be a plus on the season. The Oilers were excellent with him on the ice, out-chancing Phoenix 8-3 when he skated at even-strength. He was a bright spot in a loss, and he's been a bright spot in a losing season. 

Scoring Chances & Brief Thoughts

  • The Oilers' top line had a pretty good evening, all things considered. Or, at least, they did at even-strength - those kids also powered a misfiring power play that failed to manage even one chance per opportunity and went 0-for-6 in the goals department.
  • The second line was a problem. Ryan Smyth has been good in a third line role and showed flashes, but his foot speed is a problem on a scoring line and without any kind of shot he seems better off in the bottom-six. This is particularly so when Sam Gagner continues to flounder.
  • Matt Hendricks took three penalties but looked good when he wasn't offending the officials. The third line overall, as it has been for much of this season, was a strength. 
  • It was a mixed night from the fourth line. Mark Arcobello is a favourite but had a quiet evening, while both Nail Yakupov and Jesse Joensuu had nice offensive moments and bad defensive moments.
  • Andrew Ference left the game early and Justin Schultz's transition to low-event play in major minutes continues. Mostly, the defence wasn't terrible against Phoenix - though Anton Belov sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't he?
  • Ilya Bryzgalov was awful. He faced 11 scoring chances total on the night and surrendered four goals and two posts. The Oilers made quite a few mistakes against the Coyotes but if they'd had even semi-competent goaltending they would likely have earned at least a point.
  • Also: be sure to check out Lowetide's look this evening at Aaron Ekblad. 

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#1 Oilerz4life
January 24 2014, 10:59PM
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Welcome to Edmonton Martin, where NHL prospects come to have their careers die a slow painful death.

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#2 Mr common sense
January 24 2014, 11:25PM
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Why is Mact not pursuing Steve ott? He is the 2nd line C we need, tough sob and a ufa.

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#3 Lowetide
January 24 2014, 11:36PM
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Marincin. I hope he's real.

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#4 S cottV
January 24 2014, 11:50PM
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Difficult to understand the kind of money thrown at Gagner, given that the guy just cannot cut it as a 2C.

This revelation just didn't all of a sudden appear?

I mean he isn't even close to being effective.

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#5 ThatButthurtOilersFan
January 24 2014, 11:51PM
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Apparently another jersey tossed onto the ice tonight. I feel bad for Martin, has a terrific season in OKC and gets called up to Edmonton, the definition of a losing culture.

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#6 oilersd
January 24 2014, 11:53PM
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I disagree that Bryzgalov was as brutal as all that. The problems always arise from these hopeful passes into the offensive zone and not bearing down in the d zone get to go the puck out. It catches them on their heels and that's when they inevitably end up out of position and eventually picking the puck out of their net. Smith definitely outplayed Bryzgalov but I don't think he should be categorically thrown under the bus. I thought the Oilers showed good push back though. And when they do manage the puck properly they seem to have it a lot more. I guess that's why they got out hit on the score sheet. But there were plenty of bright spots in the game. The top line was good and I love the third line. Marincin was really good, so was Petry for the most part. I didn't hate Potters game either. They were feisty and physical, and I thought they did a pretty decent job on puck retrieval. Honestly, to me, tonight anyway, they looked like a team that needs a better second line center and a no. 1 dman. Beyond that they just need to stick to the process, and keep gaining valuable experience.

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#7 Neven
January 24 2014, 11:59PM
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Lowe Must Go!!!!!

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#8 @Oilanderp
January 25 2014, 12:09AM
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Eventually this team is going to play 60 solid minutes instead of 10.

In my imagination it will begin to happen with growing frequency before this season is over.

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#9 James
January 25 2014, 12:43AM
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Nothing about Cams fluff piece in the EJ?

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#10 TopRight
January 25 2014, 12:51AM
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I thought Ryan Jones had a real good game. Showed some pace and grit.

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#11 Serious Gord
January 25 2014, 01:23AM
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James wrote:

Nothing about Cams fluff piece in the EJ?

I read it.

Cam tait and Kevin Lowe should be fired.

Most weak-assed Defence of Lowe ever.

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#12 Danger Pay
January 25 2014, 02:06AM
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Thanks for the defensive brite spot JW! On a completely unrelated conversation I had tonight, I was hoping to obtain your perspective.

As a sports writer I imagine you've traveled to other arena's... and I was curious what your opinion on the Ole Rexall Arena itself was? It has to be out dated by now, compared to other Barn's.

Can the new arena/building help erase this Losing Culture Stench? Ray Ferraro himself has stated, on air, that "when he enter's Rexall, he can literally feel the negative energy in the building."

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#13 MKE
January 25 2014, 02:10AM
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Mr common sense wrote:

Why is Mact not pursuing Steve ott? He is the 2nd line C we need, tough sob and a ufa.

You answered your own question. Why the hell would you give up an asset, as a non playoff team, for a pending ufa???

This would be horrible asset management!!

He also is on pace for less then 30 points this year, on pace to be almost -40.

He's playing ALMOST 20 MINS A NIGHT!

AND IS ON PACE FOR 30 FREAKING POINTS!!

He's on the wrong side of 30, his best career point total was 6 years ago!!!

He has never scored more then 40 points since then, has only ever scored more then 20 goals ONCE..on a year he had his HIGHEST EVER shooting percentage!

The oilers are at least 2-3 years from a serious run in the playoffs. That would put Ott at 33-34, and he already has alot of hard miles on him.

Do we need a better second line center? For sure!

Is Ott the answer as a second line center? NO CHANCE IN HELL!

I wouldn't even take him over Boyd Gorden for our third line center.

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#14 Danger Pay
January 25 2014, 02:18AM
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ThatButthurtOilersFan wrote:

Apparently another jersey tossed onto the ice tonight. I feel bad for Martin, has a terrific season in OKC and gets called up to Edmonton, the definition of a losing culture.

Troll!

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#15 THRNHJE
January 25 2014, 02:23AM
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Marincin has been a shining light in this dark, abysmal season. He gives hope for defense developping internally. Remember a lot of the top defenseman in the league werent drafted too high, and he is only going to get better as he fills out.

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#16 Rdubb
January 25 2014, 02:49AM
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I do not know how much I can write, yell & scream that the young d-men on the farm SHOULD BE brought up so that management can see where they are. I said @ the start of the year that MM should be up so we can see how is, & wouldn't you know, on almost every night he has dressed as an Oiler, he has been the best Oiler d-man on the ice. So, lets call up Klefbom & Gernat and see where they are. know one said that one must be a standout in the minors to succeed in the bigs, & there are several examples in many sports where this has happened, where a guy was average @ best in the minors, but when his chance arose, he grabbed it and ran. Tom Brady is one, and what did he do in college? Not too much, but when he got his shot in the NFL, all he did was win, and win Super Bowls at that too... Jimmy Johnson in Nascar was average (and that is being nice) in the nationwide series, but once he came to Nascar, he won 5 championships in a row and 6 of 8... In Baseball, there is way too many players to mention and I cannot pick one of the top of my head, but it seems many pitchers do this... Plus, who says you MUST be a standout to succeed in the bigs anyway? There have been as many flops as their has been success stories. How many guys are point per game players in the AHL, yet cannot get 20-25 points in 82 games in the NHL, if that. Than there are all these goalies who aren't great in the AHL, get called up due to injuries and absolutely run with it. Jones in LA, Peters in CAR, Hutton in NAS, Anderson & Fasth in ANA, ect, ect... All we Oiler fans need to do is look @ our own examples of this in Omark and in Schrimp. Both skilled offensive players in the AHL but couldn't cut it in the NHL... Peck

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#17 David S
January 25 2014, 02:57AM
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Yeah Gagner had an off game but holy cow putting Smyth on his line is the kiss of death. Sam lasered a cross-ice pass onto his stick and he broke it on the shot attempt right in the freakin' slot.

And the powerplay. The g*d d*mn powerplay. What the hell has Eakins done to those guys? Used to be we had some kick ass firepower in that part of the game and now you wish we could decline them.

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#18 Sisyphus
January 25 2014, 04:48AM
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Another "moral" victory. At least it wasn't a total shellacking this time--the final score was close. Not that it really matters--wins matter. Losses matter. Losing by less, while better than getting your @sses kicked, is still losing.

How much longer until this team manages to convince one of the young stars to ask for a trade? Or scarier still, manages to ruin them as players, so that our prized assets end up being mediocre pieces thanks to the "development" of the Oilers system....

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#19 jim
January 25 2014, 05:45AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

I read it.

Cam tait and Kevin Lowe should be fired.

Most weak-assed Defence of Lowe ever.

Wow that was weak. it read like a 6th grade essay contest

.....that didnt win....

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#20 Paq Twinn
January 25 2014, 06:16AM
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I think if we had semi competent defence then our semi competent goalies would look better. Marincin is a welcome sight, need more like him but older with more experience.

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#21 Huskamania
January 25 2014, 06:17AM
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David S wrote:

Yeah Gagner had an off game but holy cow putting Smyth on his line is the kiss of death. Sam lasered a cross-ice pass onto his stick and he broke it on the shot attempt right in the freakin' slot.

And the powerplay. The g*d d*mn powerplay. What the hell has Eakins done to those guys? Used to be we had some kick ass firepower in that part of the game and now you wish we could decline them.

lol that is funny and I agree dont know why Smyth is even playing he does nothing with his wooden stick he's stuck in the 80s slow style he wouldnt be able to keep up to my son on an Atom team , dont worry if Smyth leaves he will be back as an assistant coach sooner then later

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#22 michael
January 25 2014, 06:18AM
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David S wrote:

Yeah Gagner had an off game but holy cow putting Smyth on his line is the kiss of death. Sam lasered a cross-ice pass onto his stick and he broke it on the shot attempt right in the freakin' slot.

And the powerplay. The g*d d*mn powerplay. What the hell has Eakins done to those guys? Used to be we had some kick ass firepower in that part of the game and now you wish we could decline them.

The PP is the Oilers momentum killer. Alla team has to do is take a penalty to stop the Oilers from gaining momentum. It is truly sad when you look at the OIlers 5-4 and know they won't score.At all. And on the road its even worse. And lets notforget the SHA.What is it now 9 GA? Have to put the penalty killers out on the PP to prevent getting scored upon when we have the 5-4.

Eakins really mindful#$ed this team. He's ruined Yakupov's confidence. Killed 2 goalies. And by seasons end probably 4 defencemen.His systems play that he has coached has imo taken this team 2 steps back.

Katz and MacT can talk all they want about this being year 4 of the rebuild. Its not. Eakins has literally put this team back to year frakin one. I dae anyone to argue that.Where no better a team than the one we iced 4 years ago. Eakins is directly to blame for the bleeped up way he went about coaching this team. He lack of experience has cost us big time in terms of development.IMO he has coached terribly.

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#23 Spydyr
January 25 2014, 06:55AM
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The team should hook Marincin up with Teddy Peckham's nutritionist he could could use 20 more pounds on him.

Hopefully Chara takes him under his wing at the Olympics and shows him a thing or two.

Then he comes back next year bigger, stronger and smarter.

The really sad part is a 21 year old rookie is the best defencman on the team.

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#24 Spydyr
January 25 2014, 07:00AM
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Eakin's putting Smyth on the second line shows just how lost he is.

Man up, Mac-T admit your mistake and get a veteran NHL coach in here to lead a team lead by kids.

It does not matter how many coaches they have had in the past. When something is broken you fix it.

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#25 MessyEH
January 25 2014, 07:01AM
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It's been speculated at before. JSchultz must have been riding MM coat tales last year.

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#26 TayLordBalls
January 25 2014, 07:16AM
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While my Oilers didn't win - I was entertained.

That was fun to watch.

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#27 Hoozonphirst
January 25 2014, 07:30AM
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Eakins use of Smyth is puzzling to me. He is slow and just never seems to make anything happen that us good. Certainly he mskes no one but the opposition better. I don't get it. Am I the inly one sick to death of Eakins' constant pist loss spin. Listening to his logic a loss is actually a win. Pathetic.

Why have Bryz in net? He's not the future. He isn't even the present. I would be playing Scrivens if I had any intentions of offering him a contract.

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#28 outdoorzguy
January 25 2014, 07:32AM
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Oilerz4life wrote:

Welcome to Edmonton Martin, where NHL prospects come to have their careers die a slow painful death.

Actually not that slow, it happens rather suddenly.

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#29 Batfink
January 25 2014, 07:37AM
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TayLordBalls wrote:

While my Oilers didn't win - I was entertained.

That was fun to watch.

Well 20 minutes of it was fun. The rest was nails down a chalkboard.

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#30 Andrew
January 25 2014, 08:08AM
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Regarding Eakins' comments post game about players overt reactions by slamming doors and beaking sticks, maybe it is not just the losses piling up. Maybe it is the team telling Eakins and Oiler management that the coache(s) are the source of their frustration.

Not even, " he of the 6 rings whose name cannot be spoken by mere mortals" can fail to recognize the decline of team performance in just about every measureable team and individual category of play since Eakins has unleashed his own brand of chaos on the team and fans alike.

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#31 Show me da Money
January 25 2014, 08:11AM
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Please don't let Martin Marincin become RUINED by his Oiler team mates.

I look forward to see how Dubnyk turns out in a few months having been traded from the Oilers. If he greatly improves that might say something about the team.

Right now it seems to poison almost everyone who plays there the exceptions being Perron and Gordon.

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#32 book¡e
January 25 2014, 08:18AM
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Danger Pay wrote:

Thanks for the defensive brite spot JW! On a completely unrelated conversation I had tonight, I was hoping to obtain your perspective.

As a sports writer I imagine you've traveled to other arena's... and I was curious what your opinion on the Ole Rexall Arena itself was? It has to be out dated by now, compared to other Barn's.

Can the new arena/building help erase this Losing Culture Stench? Ray Ferraro himself has stated, on air, that "when he enter's Rexall, he can literally feel the negative energy in the building."

Wait, now the building is making them lose? Now I have heard everything

I have been in about 15 NHL buildings both old and new and find that watching the game is pretty similar in all of them (with the exception of MLG where I had to look around a support post). The difference between buildings is mostly in the concession area.

The losing culture has nothing to do with the city or the building.

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#33 Ed in Edmonton
January 25 2014, 08:42AM
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David S wrote:

Yeah Gagner had an off game but holy cow putting Smyth on his line is the kiss of death. Sam lasered a cross-ice pass onto his stick and he broke it on the shot attempt right in the freakin' slot.

And the powerplay. The g*d d*mn powerplay. What the hell has Eakins done to those guys? Used to be we had some kick ass firepower in that part of the game and now you wish we could decline them.

Still waiting for the buzz bombing.

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#34 a lg dubl dubl
January 25 2014, 08:42AM
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I was at the game last night, Perty was up to his old ways of watching the puck, slowly skating around,giving the puck away and not covering the forward in front of the net. The dude has to go, far to many times this year he's caused a goal againt. Im not putting this crap season all on him, but he was my goat at the beginning of the year and he still is.

Marincin was good, he had a few momemnts of double checking what he should do with the puck but all in all he looked liked the most poised dman on the Oilers last night. Feed the kid nothing but protein shakes and red meat til hes over 200lbs.

MacT has his work cut out for him this off season with all but Ference and Maricin signed for next season, I hope we see a completely new defence next season, with Marincin as the only dman with under 100 games under his belt on the roster full time.

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#35 former Notre Dame Hound
January 25 2014, 08:50AM
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S cottV wrote:

Difficult to understand the kind of money thrown at Gagner, given that the guy just cannot cut it as a 2C.

This revelation just didn't all of a sudden appear?

I mean he isn't even close to being effective.

OMG...there may be a cure for my Gagneritous...last count 36 to 1 on the above article...I cant even watch when "Gags" is on the ice...wait..I need some comedy in my World...maybe he might make the worst top ten list of players ever to skate in the NHL...there is ALWAYS hope...ha

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#36 Loweblows
January 25 2014, 08:56AM
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The power play is another example of why Eakins must go! Eakins lovers can kiss my a$$.

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#37 Loweblows
January 25 2014, 08:59AM
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Tier 3 fan here in Calgary went to the Nashville Calgary game last night. Dubnyk was crap so that made me feel a little better.

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#38 S cottV
January 25 2014, 09:01AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Eakin's putting Smyth on the second line shows just how lost he is.

Man up, Mac-T admit your mistake and get a veteran NHL coach in here to lead a team lead by kids.

It does not matter how many coaches they have had in the past. When something is broken you fix it.

Smyth on the 2nd shows an Eakins lack of confidence in Gagner and Yak playing together. Have to admit that this is one very scary prospect. Gagner can't carry himself let alone the leagues worst plus minus player. Gagner in 2C - doesn't work for a number of reasons, but one of them is that it is really hard to fit Yak into the top 6.

Yak needs a 2C who can carry him, until one day it is not necessary. This 2C needs to be a warrior tank that is tough to play against and tough to play with - if he has to carry someone for too long. It's like "Yak if you don't dummy up and start playing on my line for real, I'm gonna have to hurt you" kind of thing.

Not sure I agree with the general tone from most media sources that suggest Eakins will survive into next year. It really seems to me that the room is lost and that this is only gonna get more ugly.

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#39 camdog
January 25 2014, 09:17AM
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Danger Pay wrote:

Thanks for the defensive brite spot JW! On a completely unrelated conversation I had tonight, I was hoping to obtain your perspective.

As a sports writer I imagine you've traveled to other arena's... and I was curious what your opinion on the Ole Rexall Arena itself was? It has to be out dated by now, compared to other Barn's.

Can the new arena/building help erase this Losing Culture Stench? Ray Ferraro himself has stated, on air, that "when he enter's Rexall, he can literally feel the negative energy in the building."

Firing Kevin Lowe would get rid of the stench. I know people don't have much for memories these days, but the negativity Lowe has created is real and it grows by the day.

From the Comrie, Souray, Pronger, Spacek, Chimera, Burke, Penner, Vanek, Bobby Ryan, Fight with the 30 man Ownership group, Ryan Smyth trade, Lombardi, Glencross, Heatley, Hossa and on and on.

The stench is real and it lies directly at the feet of Kevin Lowe. Remove Lowe, remove the negative energy, it's that simple.

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#40 Oilglob
January 25 2014, 09:17AM
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All those fans that think it is worth keeping Eakins next year.....please stand up and be counted so that when the chaos continues next year you can pat your self on the back for stopping progress dead....

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#41 Guy Lafleur
January 25 2014, 09:18AM
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I dont know why they dont call up the Oklahoma defence and send the Oiler defemce to Oklahoma .

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#42 the rake
January 25 2014, 09:32AM
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It has been a painful season, but at least Marincin has been a bright spot, and hopefully will put on some weight in the offseason and continue to develop at the rate he is. We all know they need a top d-man, but at what cost do you obtain one? If they end up with a chance to get Eckblad, that gives them Eckblad, Nurse, and Klefbom. Now they may be 2-3 years away, and who knows if they turn out, but i think 2 out of 3 will for sure. Throw in Justin Schultz (still has a lot to prove) and Marincin and there is a definite upside in the future. So, are they maybe better off to go after guys like Seabrooke or Karl Alzner? Not Norris trophy type guys, but solid 2-3 guys that could help bring the young guys around. Cost would be less for these type of guys and yet still be a drastic upgrade. Ference can be a very effective d-man as a number 4 guy, he is not a top 2 guy. Then if they don't have to spend as much on acquiring a d-man they can maybe have something left to acquire an NHL caliber 2nd line center. Still think Couterier could be got. Goaltending is a whole other issue, but Brossiant has 6 shutouts in 12 games this year, maybe there is some hope there.

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#43 Romanus
January 25 2014, 09:33AM
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Mr common sense wrote:

Why is Mact not pursuing Steve ott? He is the 2nd line C we need, tough sob and a ufa.

How do you know he isn't?

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#44 oilersd
January 25 2014, 09:33AM
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@michael

The things Eakins is coaching are not much different than any other coach in the nhl. And while the improvements on the ice have definitely not been easy to find they are there. Taylor Hall, RNH, and Eberle have actually started to learn what playing a 200 ft game means, and they do a much better job of sustaining pressure with and creating scoring chance off the cycle. Over the last number of games they have been far more consistent in all areas of the ice. Other guys have not seen as much improvement, but if you want to look to some reasons how about the fact that Yak, for example, is only in his second year with the team and looks about as defensively sound as a 20 year old kid in his 2nd season. Except that he is behind a bunch of other highly touted skilled prospect who have more experience than he does. Unlike Hall who had (lol) Ethan Moreau and Shawn Horcoff to leap frog. I'm yak may be frustrated but I don't think he is shsttered. The mistake with yak was in not putting him in the minors I think. If Yak had spent last season in the minors the two things would be different for him and the team. One, he would have been a big fish learning to play both sides of the puck in a little pond, and, two, the oilers would have freed up a roster spot that could have been taken short term by a more veteran player. This could have significantly changed the fortunes of both the team and the player. IMO that hangs on management, but you don't make it to 1st overall pick in the nhl without dealing with a little adversity and employing a great deal of perseverance. Yak will be fine. But the last thing any of them or us needs at this point is yet another coach or gm. They need continuity. We need continuity. And if you are going to tell me that this rebuild started with Robbie Shremp and Robert Nillson then I've got a bridge to sell you...

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#45 Randaman
January 25 2014, 09:37AM
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David S wrote:

Yeah Gagner had an off game but holy cow putting Smyth on his line is the kiss of death. Sam lasered a cross-ice pass onto his stick and he broke it on the shot attempt right in the freakin' slot.

And the powerplay. The g*d d*mn powerplay. What the hell has Eakins done to those guys? Used to be we had some kick ass firepower in that part of the game and now you wish we could decline them.

"Gagner had an OFF game? An OFF game like every other game he has played this year! Wake up man! Gagner has been abysmal all season. Ya, I cut him some slack early because of his jaw but he has seriously regressed. Why do you think he is still here? Because nobody wants him or that over inflated contract. Smyth on the second line instead of Yak was a stupid move on Eakins part.

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#46 nunyour
January 25 2014, 09:38AM
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I also thought petry looked brutal,my brother hasn't liked him from day one but I defended him,i think my brother was right.Our top line has to play better starting the game,and not wait till we are down.With so much talent our power play should be feared.

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#47 @mbrunihockey
January 25 2014, 09:40AM
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TopRight wrote:

I thought Ryan Jones had a real good game. Showed some pace and grit.

Did you see his post game interview? About time we see some fire and honesty around the room.

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#48 dman
January 25 2014, 09:47AM
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oilersd wrote:

The things Eakins is coaching are not much different than any other coach in the nhl. And while the improvements on the ice have definitely not been easy to find they are there. Taylor Hall, RNH, and Eberle have actually started to learn what playing a 200 ft game means, and they do a much better job of sustaining pressure with and creating scoring chance off the cycle. Over the last number of games they have been far more consistent in all areas of the ice. Other guys have not seen as much improvement, but if you want to look to some reasons how about the fact that Yak, for example, is only in his second year with the team and looks about as defensively sound as a 20 year old kid in his 2nd season. Except that he is behind a bunch of other highly touted skilled prospect who have more experience than he does. Unlike Hall who had (lol) Ethan Moreau and Shawn Horcoff to leap frog. I'm yak may be frustrated but I don't think he is shsttered. The mistake with yak was in not putting him in the minors I think. If Yak had spent last season in the minors the two things would be different for him and the team. One, he would have been a big fish learning to play both sides of the puck in a little pond, and, two, the oilers would have freed up a roster spot that could have been taken short term by a more veteran player. This could have significantly changed the fortunes of both the team and the player. IMO that hangs on management, but you don't make it to 1st overall pick in the nhl without dealing with a little adversity and employing a great deal of perseverance. Yak will be fine. But the last thing any of them or us needs at this point is yet another coach or gm. They need continuity. We need continuity. And if you are going to tell me that this rebuild started with Robbie Shremp and Robert Nillson then I've got a bridge to sell you...

Yak could not have played in the AHL last season.

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#49 Randaman
January 25 2014, 09:59AM
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Show me da Money wrote:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Please don't let Martin Marincin become RUINED by his Oiler team mates.

I look forward to see how Dubnyk turns out in a few months having been traded from the Oilers. If he greatly improves that might say something about the team.

Right now it seems to poison almost everyone who plays there the exceptions being Perron and Gordon.

Hendricks, Perron & Gordon should be left alone to build chemistry which it seems Hendricks & Gordon already have from before. That line is real good. Hall, Eberle & Nuge should be left alone as well with the exception of putting some weight on the line once in a while when other teams take liberties with them. The other two lines (2 & 4) really need work! Not to get ahead of ourselves here but #85 looks like he will be an excellent #3/4 option for a long time and with a little more weight will be a force! I really like his game. I'm tired of the negative thoughts (mentally draining). Let's try to focus on the positive we see going into the draft and next year. Wait, where have I heard that before. LOL One more thing, I seriously hope that if Eakins gets fired that the assistants don't survive again or the revolving door will continue. That is the real reason Eakins was hired because a coach with experience will not want an inherited staff! Plain and simple. My thoughts...

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#50 Randaman
January 25 2014, 10:09AM
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the rake wrote:

It has been a painful season, but at least Marincin has been a bright spot, and hopefully will put on some weight in the offseason and continue to develop at the rate he is. We all know they need a top d-man, but at what cost do you obtain one? If they end up with a chance to get Eckblad, that gives them Eckblad, Nurse, and Klefbom. Now they may be 2-3 years away, and who knows if they turn out, but i think 2 out of 3 will for sure. Throw in Justin Schultz (still has a lot to prove) and Marincin and there is a definite upside in the future. So, are they maybe better off to go after guys like Seabrooke or Karl Alzner? Not Norris trophy type guys, but solid 2-3 guys that could help bring the young guys around. Cost would be less for these type of guys and yet still be a drastic upgrade. Ference can be a very effective d-man as a number 4 guy, he is not a top 2 guy. Then if they don't have to spend as much on acquiring a d-man they can maybe have something left to acquire an NHL caliber 2nd line center. Still think Couterier could be got. Goaltending is a whole other issue, but Brossiant has 6 shutouts in 12 games this year, maybe there is some hope there.

I know that the Smid trade upset a lot of people but Brossiant was the available piece that triggered that deal. I really liked him in junior and he will be an Oiler in my view! His season thus far has been amazing. Hey, another positive. What do you know

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