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Lowetide
January 24 2014 10:45PM

In recent days some Oiler fans have expressed that Aaron Ekblad's offensive numbers are similar or superior to those of Darnell Nurse in his draft year. Is this true?

Last spring, I compared three 2013 draft eligibles and their offense by discipline. I found that Darnell Nurse's numbers were skewed due to a lack of powerplay time. Nurse at even strength had an impressive draft season.

Nurse's even strength scoring as a 17-year old were well shy of Seth Jones, but beyond another outstanding puck mover from the 2013 draft, Josh Morrissey.

How does Ekblad compare?

  • EV: 34, 3-9-12 .353
  • PP: 34, 10-10-20 .588
  • PK: 34, 1-0-1 .029
  • TOTAL: 34, 14-19-33 .971

At even strength, Nurse and Ekblad are comparable. Nurse has the edge, but this is mid-season and that could change. I think it's fair to suggest both players will get enough offense from their EV totals to be considered "two way" defensemen—there are no Laddy Smid stay-at-home defensemen in this look at the blue.

Ekblad appears to be an outstanding power-play talent. I don't know enough about him to say he's going to be an impact player above the OHL, but at age 17 he's certainly an impact player in the discipline at the junior level.

BROCK OTTEN, OHL PROSPECTS

Brock Otten is a fine blogger and reports on the OHL via his brilliant OHL Prospects blog. Here, he discusses Ekblad and his season during a mid-year review:

  • 1. Aaron Ekblad - Defense - Barrie Colts
    Everyone knows about his ability defensively, but it's certain aspects of his offensive game that have impressed me most this year. In particular, his ability to get his point shot through to the net and his ability to control the point have really improved to the point where I think he has definite powerplay QB potential at the next level to go with his shutdown ability in his own end.

Otten's observations are reflected in the Ekblad numbers.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

There's a long way to go this draft season, and Aaron Ekblad has his issues. Skating has been mentioned, and the fact that he appears to be the only man in the group (the other prospects have "projectable size") is also in some reports.

We should probably start talking about Ekblad's power-play performance in the first half of the OHL season. His numbers on the powerplay for his age are sparkling.

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#1 Josh Oiler
January 24 2014, 11:06PM
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After watching Matt Hendricks play tonight I realized:

Craig MACTAVISH IS A FREAKING GENIUS???

MacT bent Polie over and gave it to him without Vaseline... He rocked him In that trade. Talk about grit. Hendricks is what the Oilers have needed for years. Finally.

Dubnyk is a washed up fluke. Good riddance. They are pretty pissed off at us in Nashville. They could've found a better goalie in the WANT ADS!

I'm gonna go out tomorrow and purchase a Matt Hendricks jersey and maybe also a retro Craig MACTAVISH jersey.

Keep up the good work MacT

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#2 Low
January 25 2014, 02:00AM
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Lowtied has all of the weakest links of articles in the Nation! Please give up!!! Last article was to bring back Hartkinen now ekbal. As if the funs have patient to wait another rebuilt after another. May be it is worth it to watch, how this team plays a physical opponent like Kings or Ducks. Our top six players are mejets and as a result they disappear. Beside they have no clue how to defend and play the most minutes. That is the biggest problem of ours.

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#3 Dan 1919
January 24 2014, 11:42PM
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Johe wrote:

Wouldn't a Nurse Ekblad pairing look good a few years from now? Wow.

Hahaha sorry to be rude, but you’re still buying the koolaid?

4 years min before a Nurse/Ekblad line actually brings enough to the table to no longer be “developing” and actually be making the Oiler’s difficult to play against.

By that time what has Hall decided about this team, asked for a trade? Yak will be signed back in the KHL disappointing people there as well. Ebs is still here as the un-probable lifer. Nuge has lost interest in the games and just reads advanced physics books on the bench that make him even more wizard like.

This rebuild has failed, the biggest downfall was not trying to bring any support along the way and now it’s too late, it’s salvageable only by “bold” moves that are actually as risky as they seem. Still a chance for success if MacT has some huge gonads, but there’s a far better chance that we are the islanders for a loooong time.

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#4 Josh Oiler
January 24 2014, 11:11PM
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Hey Lowetide,

Don't leave me hangin. I know you're the only other guy that knows MACTAVISH is a genius.

Help me out here???

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#5 Rick Stroppel
January 24 2014, 11:16PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

After watching Matt Hendricks play tonight I realized:

Craig MACTAVISH IS A FREAKING GENIUS???

MacT bent Polie over and gave it to him without Vaseline... He rocked him In that trade. Talk about grit. Hendricks is what the Oilers have needed for years. Finally.

Dubnyk is a washed up fluke. Good riddance. They are pretty pissed off at us in Nashville. They could've found a better goalie in the WANT ADS!

I'm gonna go out tomorrow and purchase a Matt Hendricks jersey and maybe also a retro Craig MACTAVISH jersey.

Keep up the good work MacT

WORST POSTS OF ALL TIME

I trash this guy's posts without even reading them. Does that make me a bad person?

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#6 Dan 1919
January 24 2014, 11:50PM
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WHO TRASHED MY COMMENT^^^!!! I think I know something about PROFESSING the future IF THERE’S EVER A CONCERN

I’m going to bed, I don’t need this crap.

Go Oil

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#7 Josh Oiler
January 24 2014, 11:00PM
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"PLAY BAD FOR EKBLAD"

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#8 Serious Gord
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Dan 1919 wrote:

I agree too, MacT has done good work so far. Obviously signing Eakins may have been a bit too much too fast but the team was ultimately doomed regardless because of the AHL defence and terrible tending.

Hate to say it, but for one more summer I will remain interested to see what moves MacT makes for the back end. If they are as good as the Perron, Ference, Hendricks additions, next year could end up being a dogfight for 8th spot.

I expect heavy trashes.

Ridiculous.

MacT (and Klowe):

didn't unload or buyout hemsky Signed gagner to a crazy contract Signed a rookie and now failing coach to an unprecedented FOUR year deal Didn't replace dubnyk Sign grebeshkov Kept Smyth Signed belov

He has made far more mistakes than good moves. I expect him to continue in that fashion...

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#9 Rick Stroppel
January 25 2014, 01:31AM
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ThatButthurtOilersFan wrote:

In my books, it makes you a good person.

SO IT ISN 'T JUST ME

From his picture, Josh Oiler looks like an adult. Yet he talks like a twelve year old ("did it without Vaseline"). BTW, do you think that is really his picture? Isn't he afraid somebody is going to recognize him?

OILERS NATION: If you respond directly to his posts, it will make him think that he is saying something worth responding to.

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#10 ThatButthurtOilersFan
January 24 2014, 11:54PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

WORST POSTS OF ALL TIME

I trash this guy's posts without even reading them. Does that make me a bad person?

In my books, it makes you a good person.

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#11 Low
January 25 2014, 01:11AM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

WORST POSTS OF ALL TIME

I trash this guy's posts without even reading them. Does that make me a bad person?

No, that does not make you a bad person. This dud is out of reach when it comes to hockey or he does it to grab attention. After reading his comments few times in the past, I start to trash him automatically just like Lowtied articles. They usually write something about what if this happen or hope...

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#12 oasis
January 24 2014, 11:39PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

After watching Matt Hendricks play tonight I realized:

Craig MACTAVISH IS A FREAKING GENIUS???

MacT bent Polie over and gave it to him without Vaseline... He rocked him In that trade. Talk about grit. Hendricks is what the Oilers have needed for years. Finally.

Dubnyk is a washed up fluke. Good riddance. They are pretty pissed off at us in Nashville. They could've found a better goalie in the WANT ADS!

I'm gonna go out tomorrow and purchase a Matt Hendricks jersey and maybe also a retro Craig MACTAVISH jersey.

Keep up the good work MacT

Wow, don't you think that's a bit premature?

The guy was invisible before tonight. He takes a puck off the skate and takes some questionable penalties, one of which will probably get him suspended and you're rushing out to buy a jersey. We'll you better get up early to avoid the stampede buddy.

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#13 5cupsHalfFull
January 25 2014, 01:43AM
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Every time I read through the comments it's more and more baffling to read so much hate and pessimism. For people who couldn't be bothered to cheer the team through hard times it's weird to see them bothered to write nasty hate mail on blog sites.

Look Mom I can turn my back on the Oilers, I'm a knowledgable analyst who should crawl into a hole when things do turn around.

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#14 Dan 1919
January 25 2014, 12:01AM
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Lowetide wrote:

MacTavish is going to need time. The Oilers were a mess. He added Perron, Gordon, Ference this summer, and he missed on others.

There's a lot of work to do, but I believe MacT will do it. I have no idea how many Oiler fans believe that tonight, though.

I agree too, MacT has done good work so far. Obviously signing Eakins may have been a bit too much too fast but the team was ultimately doomed regardless because of the AHL defence and terrible tending.

Hate to say it, but for one more summer I will remain interested to see what moves MacT makes for the back end. If they are as good as the Perron, Ference, Hendricks additions, next year could end up being a dogfight for 8th spot.

I expect heavy trashes.

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#15 camdog
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The team was a mess when Lowe was GM, the team was a mess when Tambleini took over the team, the teams is now a mess with Mact as the GM.

So overall this team has been an absolute mess for 8 years now. To put faith in a man that was here when the mess began, a man that was hired GM without an interview process, whom was anointed GM by the same man that started this mess is really tough to believe.

Maybe you are right and Mact will fix the ship or maybe he won't. In 2-3 years we will know the answers.

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#16 dougtheslug
January 24 2014, 11:20PM
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In January, in the fourth year of a rebuild, with 30 games left in the season, ON bloggers are enthusiastically analyzing the player they hope Oilers will draft first overall.

Is it even possible to imagine a more epic fail?

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#17 Frank the dog
January 25 2014, 09:07AM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

WORST POSTS OF ALL TIME

I trash this guy's posts without even reading them. Does that make me a bad person?

No, just an uninformed person.

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#18 Frank the dog
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Looking more and more to me that this is little more than a stare down between Hall-Eberle-Gagner-Jultz with Yak as a wannabee, and the Coach of the Day.

Drop your level of play as soon as you don't like something the coach is forcing you to do.

They played well for Krueger only as long as they agreed with what he was telling them. As soon as he tried to crack down on the defensive side, they put him into a 10 game losing streak.

This approach succeeded in evicting Quinn, Renney, and Krueger, and may well succeed with Eakins, right now it's neck and neck.

Not sure which is the pack leader, in the last doc I watched, it was declared to be Eberle.

When comparing that collection of sublime talent, not many people will stick with the coach as opposed to trading one's elite talent away at a discount.

MacT is a well qualified GM doing the best job anyone could have done in the circumstances. Eakins has always worked well in the past with young people despite the mantras of the assorted trolls and naysayers. Both are intelligent, capable men. Fixing this team is obviously not as easy as fire the coach or trade our elite for top tier players.

It's somewhat obvious that most elite players do not want to play in Edmonton, or they will only play here for a huge premium.

The players that MacT has accumulated bear testimony to that, and it's not for lack of trying.

If you take a look at each step MacT has made, each one has visibly improved the team.

So yes we have been losing for 8 years, but if this team is fixable then MacT and Eakins may represent our last and best chance. If the players win over Eakins, then the only coach with any chance of success, would likely be Todd Nelson, who clearly enjoyed the young core's trust and respect. But he'd also be out the door as soon as what he wanted went against what the young core wanted.

So for us to get back to winning, in fact it's the coaching carousel that has to stop, and the young core that has to be won over.

As Yak is clearly the weakest link in the chain, he is the most likely to break first. The outcome will either be a genuine NHL star, or a KHL player that ends up never going anywhere.

So yes, the losing is painful, and I may refuse to watch them when they are listless and dispirited, as they were when MacT traded Dubs, who was obviously part of the clique.

But it seems to me, that MacT and Eakins are the best available coach and GM for now. I do think that Eakins should be given the chance to select his own assistants, which will likely happen over the off season if he is still here then. But the core problem is actually how to persuade the clique to play two way NHL hockey of their own accord. FWIW

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#19 Johe
January 24 2014, 11:23PM
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Wouldn't a Nurse Ekblad pairing look good a few years from now? Wow.

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#21 Pouzar99
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MacT has made mostly good moves, but one disastrous one. Firing Kreuger and hiring Eakins. JW did a good analysis on 5-in-5 play under Renney, Kreuger and Eakins, in which the last two were pretty even. If he had also addressed special teams the results would have been very different. When you compare the PP stats, accounting for SH goals given up, as well as PK stats, accounting for SH goals scored, the gap between Kreuger and Eakins is massive. How did this coach destroy our special teams? Keep MacT but fire Eakins. Not until after he has gotten us Ekblad, however. The guy cannot coach.

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#22 Philosophil
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Low wrote:

Lowtied has all of the weakest links of articles in the Nation! Please give up!!! Last article was to bring back Hartkinen now ekbal. As if the funs have patient to wait another rebuilt after another. May be it is worth it to watch, how this team plays a physical opponent like Kings or Ducks. Our top six players are mejets and as a result they disappear. Beside they have no clue how to defend and play the most minutes. That is the biggest problem of ours.

Dude, who is Lowetied? is he related to tonguetied?

and these mejets you speak of...at least they have been to school, and have advanced training using spallchak.

Troll, with a capital T...slither back down Highway 2 where you belong...

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#23 Batfink
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Hookd on fonix werked fur me!

If we draft Ekblad, I think we have his nickname: Ekballs!

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#24 Batfink
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Frank the dog wrote:

Looking more and more to me that this is little more than a stare down between Hall-Eberle-Gagner-Jultz with Yak as a wannabee, and the Coach of the Day.

Drop your level of play as soon as you don't like something the coach is forcing you to do.

They played well for Krueger only as long as they agreed with what he was telling them. As soon as he tried to crack down on the defensive side, they put him into a 10 game losing streak.

This approach succeeded in evicting Quinn, Renney, and Krueger, and may well succeed with Eakins, right now it's neck and neck.

Not sure which is the pack leader, in the last doc I watched, it was declared to be Eberle.

When comparing that collection of sublime talent, not many people will stick with the coach as opposed to trading one's elite talent away at a discount.

MacT is a well qualified GM doing the best job anyone could have done in the circumstances. Eakins has always worked well in the past with young people despite the mantras of the assorted trolls and naysayers. Both are intelligent, capable men. Fixing this team is obviously not as easy as fire the coach or trade our elite for top tier players.

It's somewhat obvious that most elite players do not want to play in Edmonton, or they will only play here for a huge premium.

The players that MacT has accumulated bear testimony to that, and it's not for lack of trying.

If you take a look at each step MacT has made, each one has visibly improved the team.

So yes we have been losing for 8 years, but if this team is fixable then MacT and Eakins may represent our last and best chance. If the players win over Eakins, then the only coach with any chance of success, would likely be Todd Nelson, who clearly enjoyed the young core's trust and respect. But he'd also be out the door as soon as what he wanted went against what the young core wanted.

So for us to get back to winning, in fact it's the coaching carousel that has to stop, and the young core that has to be won over.

As Yak is clearly the weakest link in the chain, he is the most likely to break first. The outcome will either be a genuine NHL star, or a KHL player that ends up never going anywhere.

So yes, the losing is painful, and I may refuse to watch them when they are listless and dispirited, as they were when MacT traded Dubs, who was obviously part of the clique.

But it seems to me, that MacT and Eakins are the best available coach and GM for now. I do think that Eakins should be given the chance to select his own assistants, which will likely happen over the off season if he is still here then. But the core problem is actually how to persuade the clique to play two way NHL hockey of their own accord. FWIW

Seriously? Do you watch Ancient Aliens as well? Maybe they're in on it too. There is no conspiracy theory. These guys do not even get a SNIFF of this league, no matter how skilled, if their attitudes are suspect. It seems that you have no comprehension of what they have to do to even get a shot at the NHL. If what you say is true, it would have manifested itself by now. Trade for cents on the dollar, a la Mike Comrie, would have been made to get the guy gone. The lunatics do not run the asylum. Have you considered the other side of the coin? May be the players are doing exactly what Eakins wants them to do and that he just can't coach at this level yet?

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#25 Low
January 25 2014, 11:49AM
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Philosophil wrote:

Dude, who is Lowetied? is he related to tonguetied?

and these mejets you speak of...at least they have been to school, and have advanced training using spallchak.

Troll, with a capital T...slither back down Highway 2 where you belong...

The truth hurts ahh buddy. If you still do not know who is Lowtied? He is your useless biological father! You may ask Dr. Phill if you wish. Crack head!

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#26 MessyEH
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Serious Gord wrote:

Ridiculous.

MacT (and Klowe):

didn't unload or buyout hemsky Signed gagner to a crazy contract Signed a rookie and now failing coach to an unprecedented FOUR year deal Didn't replace dubnyk Sign grebeshkov Kept Smyth Signed belov

He has made far more mistakes than good moves. I expect him to continue in that fashion...

I disagree on Hemsky and Belov.

You are completely correct on the other Mact mistakes. Gagner contract was a huge negative now it's untradeable, even without the no trade clause.

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#27 toprightcorner
January 25 2014, 12:06PM
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Frank the dog wrote:

Looking more and more to me that this is little more than a stare down between Hall-Eberle-Gagner-Jultz with Yak as a wannabee, and the Coach of the Day.

Drop your level of play as soon as you don't like something the coach is forcing you to do.

They played well for Krueger only as long as they agreed with what he was telling them. As soon as he tried to crack down on the defensive side, they put him into a 10 game losing streak.

This approach succeeded in evicting Quinn, Renney, and Krueger, and may well succeed with Eakins, right now it's neck and neck.

Not sure which is the pack leader, in the last doc I watched, it was declared to be Eberle.

When comparing that collection of sublime talent, not many people will stick with the coach as opposed to trading one's elite talent away at a discount.

MacT is a well qualified GM doing the best job anyone could have done in the circumstances. Eakins has always worked well in the past with young people despite the mantras of the assorted trolls and naysayers. Both are intelligent, capable men. Fixing this team is obviously not as easy as fire the coach or trade our elite for top tier players.

It's somewhat obvious that most elite players do not want to play in Edmonton, or they will only play here for a huge premium.

The players that MacT has accumulated bear testimony to that, and it's not for lack of trying.

If you take a look at each step MacT has made, each one has visibly improved the team.

So yes we have been losing for 8 years, but if this team is fixable then MacT and Eakins may represent our last and best chance. If the players win over Eakins, then the only coach with any chance of success, would likely be Todd Nelson, who clearly enjoyed the young core's trust and respect. But he'd also be out the door as soon as what he wanted went against what the young core wanted.

So for us to get back to winning, in fact it's the coaching carousel that has to stop, and the young core that has to be won over.

As Yak is clearly the weakest link in the chain, he is the most likely to break first. The outcome will either be a genuine NHL star, or a KHL player that ends up never going anywhere.

So yes, the losing is painful, and I may refuse to watch them when they are listless and dispirited, as they were when MacT traded Dubs, who was obviously part of the clique.

But it seems to me, that MacT and Eakins are the best available coach and GM for now. I do think that Eakins should be given the chance to select his own assistants, which will likely happen over the off season if he is still here then. But the core problem is actually how to persuade the clique to play two way NHL hockey of their own accord. FWIW

I have felt the same at times, you mentioned "docs you watched", would be interested if you could share.

I believe Eakins is the first coach since MacT that hold players accountable and most of the elite guys we have drafted grew up so skilled they were never held accountable and that is tough to take.

Some players could believe that if Eakins has a worse record than Kreuger, he too will be fired.

to me Eberle and Gagner seem to be the ones that show signs of trying for offence but lacking on effort on defense. just watch how many times that when the buck is turned over that they turn the wrong/long way which takes themselves out of the play, or they stop, pause for a second and then skate hard so they will never catch anyone but look like they are working hard getting back.

I think Eakins could spot the culprit and just hope MacT will get them off the team

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#28 Low
January 24 2014, 10:58PM
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I'm upset!

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#29 superhall
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Josh Oiler wrote:

After watching Matt Hendricks play tonight I realized:

Craig MACTAVISH IS A FREAKING GENIUS???

MacT bent Polie over and gave it to him without Vaseline... He rocked him In that trade. Talk about grit. Hendricks is what the Oilers have needed for years. Finally.

Dubnyk is a washed up fluke. Good riddance. They are pretty pissed off at us in Nashville. They could've found a better goalie in the WANT ADS!

I'm gonna go out tomorrow and purchase a Matt Hendricks jersey and maybe also a retro Craig MACTAVISH jersey.

Keep up the good work MacT

I agree with you that Hendricks is a good player, is he gonna save the oil. No. He might be a future fourth liner. Like the guy think he does all the little things right but that was not an amazing trade....also its pretty hard to take you seriously with you imagining ol mact giving it polie.... That's messed up man

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#30 toprightcorner
January 25 2014, 11:52AM
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Low wrote:

Lowtied has all of the weakest links of articles in the Nation! Please give up!!! Last article was to bring back Hartkinen now ekbal. As if the funs have patient to wait another rebuilt after another. May be it is worth it to watch, how this team plays a physical opponent like Kings or Ducks. Our top six players are mejets and as a result they disappear. Beside they have no clue how to defend and play the most minutes. That is the biggest problem of ours.

Nothing makes a person look dumber then misspelling the person name you are trying to troll.

I'm sure LoweTIDE wont lose sleep if you skip his articles and readers will be happier if you also skipped posting comments.

The one thing I like about Lowetide is that he provides insight and articles on things we would otherwise not consider. He doesn't just want to present solely a good read but create debate where we expert wannabe's can share our thoughts.

Maybe stick to reading articles that are meant for a grade 3 audience and it will match your spelling level. May I suggest the high quality writings of Eklund, he would be more at your speed.

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#32 @Oilanderp
January 24 2014, 11:58PM
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There's a ways to go yet but I wonder if Ekblad could even drop to #3. I know the BPA method is preached and all that but I really can't see Buffalo taking a d-man, and I imagine the Flamers have a man-crush on Reinhart.

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#33 Dan 1919
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camdog wrote:

The team was a mess when Lowe was GM, the team was a mess when Tambleini took over the team, the teams is now a mess with Mact as the GM.

So overall this team has been an absolute mess for 8 years now. To put faith in a man that was here when the mess began, a man that was hired GM without an interview process, whom was anointed GM by the same man that started this mess is really tough to believe.

Maybe you are right and Mact will fix the ship or maybe he won't. In 2-3 years we will know the answers.

Not to stick up for Oiler’s management as we all know what a travesty this team is right now. But as MacT said in his GM onboarding interview, he never did anything to let this team down in the past. He coached a relatively poor hockey team to play competitive and gritty while challenging for a playoff spot yearly.

His boss KLowe is a lot harder to defend. He played with Gretzky?

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#34 Batfink
January 25 2014, 07:41AM
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Er, guys, we HAVE sparkling PP talents. It's just that the coach hates them to score on the PP because he thinks it's unfair. So he takes one of the best PP in the league last year and does what he's done with the rest of the team and give them a confusing bat-poop crazy system.

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#36 The Soup Fascist
January 25 2014, 08:29AM
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Low wrote:

Lowtied has all of the weakest links of articles in the Nation! Please give up!!! Last article was to bring back Hartkinen now ekbal. As if the funs have patient to wait another rebuilt after another. May be it is worth it to watch, how this team plays a physical opponent like Kings or Ducks. Our top six players are mejets and as a result they disappear. Beside they have no clue how to defend and play the most minutes. That is the biggest problem of ours.

Hookd on fonix werked fur me!

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#37 billythebullet
January 25 2014, 08:33AM
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And with the 2nd overall pick, the Edmonton oilers...

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#38 Dan 1919
January 25 2014, 08:42AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Ridiculous.

MacT (and Klowe):

didn't unload or buyout hemsky Signed gagner to a crazy contract Signed a rookie and now failing coach to an unprecedented FOUR year deal Didn't replace dubnyk Sign grebeshkov Kept Smyth Signed belov

He has made far more mistakes than good moves. I expect him to continue in that fashion...

What about Hemsky? He had Zero trade value when MacT took over. I don’t see any argument for or against Hemsky until we see what happens with him at the deadline, not much value anyway.

MacT aggressively went after Schneider and couldn’t seal the deal. You can’t win them all, welcome to real life, not NHL 2014. When Dubnyk failed miserably he then all but said you’re fired when he paid another team to take him. Accept the failed investment and move on.

Garbagekov and Belov were both a no risk attempt at doing anything to hopefully help the backend... didn’t really work, Belov is alright.

Smyth is another mute point, hate to break it to you Gordon, with or without him the Oiler’s are terrible. Having no Smyth on the team doesn’t mean we would have picked up Weber.

So correction, MacT has made several no risk moves that haven’t resulted in much, and several excellent moves (better than can ever be said for sleepy Tambi).

Hind sight is 20/20 and we all know Kruger should have been kept for at least one more season but as mentioned no coach will get a roster with this weak of defence into the playoffs.

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#39 Chainsawz
January 25 2014, 09:07AM
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Imagine a time where we don't even care who's in the upcoming draft in January... Sigh... Time to weep in my beer boobs.

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#40 wellsy
January 25 2014, 09:16AM
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Low wrote:

Lowtied has all of the weakest links of articles in the Nation! Please give up!!! Last article was to bring back Hartkinen now ekbal. As if the funs have patient to wait another rebuilt after another. May be it is worth it to watch, how this team plays a physical opponent like Kings or Ducks. Our top six players are mejets and as a result they disappear. Beside they have no clue how to defend and play the most minutes. That is the biggest problem of ours.

That,and our spelling.

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#42 Frank the dog
January 25 2014, 11:15AM
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Batfink wrote:

Seriously? Do you watch Ancient Aliens as well? Maybe they're in on it too. There is no conspiracy theory. These guys do not even get a SNIFF of this league, no matter how skilled, if their attitudes are suspect. It seems that you have no comprehension of what they have to do to even get a shot at the NHL. If what you say is true, it would have manifested itself by now. Trade for cents on the dollar, a la Mike Comrie, would have been made to get the guy gone. The lunatics do not run the asylum. Have you considered the other side of the coin? May be the players are doing exactly what Eakins wants them to do and that he just can't coach at this level yet?

If you had ever studied organizational behaviour, or had any experience of any kind at a senior management level, then you would have some comprehension of what I am talking about.

However as I have said elsewhere, people who lack knowledge or experience are still free to make comments like yours. So fire away, buddy, Im sure there are more than a few people who would join your chorus. BTW, You obviously watch AA I don't, never have, never will. As for your other comments: This manifested itself when Quinn was coach, and he said as much, as quoted on another blog a while back. I have a pretty good idea of what they go through to get to the NHL but do you have any idea of how Junior coaches behave with players of this level of talent that consistently win games for them? As in give them breaks not given to other players? The are not lunatics, they are mostly intelligent, capable, millionaires who have grown up in a generation of entitlement. One has to have a high level of drive to get to the NHL, and whereas most players have to learn the next level of play in the AHL, these players mostly skipped that level and as such have never been forced to learn those fundamentals until now. Witness Hall's treatment at the hands of Lindsay Ruff, and Hitchcock's comment about Eakins and the Oiler, and you may begin to understand. Go back to Jonesy's presser and you'll see that even he understand that Eakins systems are pretty much NHL standard, and much different to the OHL etc.

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#43 toprightcorner
January 25 2014, 11:31AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Ridiculous.

MacT (and Klowe):

didn't unload or buyout hemsky Signed gagner to a crazy contract Signed a rookie and now failing coach to an unprecedented FOUR year deal Didn't replace dubnyk Sign grebeshkov Kept Smyth Signed belov

He has made far more mistakes than good moves. I expect him to continue in that fashion...

Why do MacT haters always forget to mention the theft of Perron or trading Horcoff without retaining cash that nobody thought possible. They also forget MacT was the key man in getting J. Schultz.

Buyout Hemsky? you don't buy out a guy when cap isn't an issue. Hemmer has also been decent.

There was no reason to replace Dubnyk based on numbers in previous years though MacT did say he hast yet proven to be a top starter.

Grebs was low cost, low risk and hasn't hurt the team playing on the farm.

There was no market to trade Smyth, no sense to buy out the most loved Oiler in last 15 years and he has played very well as a hard working veteran in the bottom 6.

Belov was was considered the top dman in the KHL and was a low cost risk that hasn't been bad. Good 6/7 dman, problem is team depth forced him to ply higher.

Eakins was widely considered the best up and coming coach and was widely praised around the league. 50 games coaching an already terrible team is too early to be judged fairly.

MacT has made some questionable moves just like every GM in history. You cant fix 5 years of Tambo screw ups in 8 months. If MacT never said 'bold moves" he would have far less haters.

Next time at least include all the facts and properly think them through before presenting your case. Hate MacT all you want, just don't back up your case with hot air!

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#44 MessyEH
January 25 2014, 01:44PM
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Krueger got shafted... for sure. That may be why there is so much venom towards Eakins.

The roster is better.

But the players are under performing.

Who knew trading Horcoff would have such an impact.

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#45 Batfink
January 25 2014, 03:27PM
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Frank the dog wrote:

If you had ever studied organizational behaviour, or had any experience of any kind at a senior management level, then you would have some comprehension of what I am talking about.

However as I have said elsewhere, people who lack knowledge or experience are still free to make comments like yours. So fire away, buddy, Im sure there are more than a few people who would join your chorus. BTW, You obviously watch AA I don't, never have, never will. As for your other comments: This manifested itself when Quinn was coach, and he said as much, as quoted on another blog a while back. I have a pretty good idea of what they go through to get to the NHL but do you have any idea of how Junior coaches behave with players of this level of talent that consistently win games for them? As in give them breaks not given to other players? The are not lunatics, they are mostly intelligent, capable, millionaires who have grown up in a generation of entitlement. One has to have a high level of drive to get to the NHL, and whereas most players have to learn the next level of play in the AHL, these players mostly skipped that level and as such have never been forced to learn those fundamentals until now. Witness Hall's treatment at the hands of Lindsay Ruff, and Hitchcock's comment about Eakins and the Oiler, and you may begin to understand. Go back to Jonesy's presser and you'll see that even he understand that Eakins systems are pretty much NHL standard, and much different to the OHL etc.

Let me see, I completed 12yrs in the Army, the final 4 of which were in a senior managerial role. In order to take up that post, I had to complete a set of civilian management courses accredited to the IMI (feel free to google) and a multitude of military management courses. After my service, I thought I had done with schooling, but my new job sent me straight back to management school. I'm not saying I'm a good manager, but I have dabbled before. Enough to know that leadership starts at the top. You've heard of 'the buck stops here'? It is a mantra of modern management. Eakins is the leader, and I could and have spouted for hours on the pro and cons of his management style.

When you are the de facto leader, you take responsibility for ALL aspects for both success or failure. If his players do not respond to his style, HE must change it until he finds a way to get across what he needs to. Whatever other misgivings Eakins gives me, he does not come across as weak willed.

I did not literally mean the players are lunatics. It was an analogy. That is like a metaphor. Or possibly a simile. What I meant, and I suspect you knew, is that the players do not run the team.

You see, I did play sport, good enough for semi-pro, but not for the bigs. Hence my foray into the military. I know EXACTLY how coaches treat players. And I know how other players treat players who are A55 hats.

I do watch Ancient Aliens from time to time, but I am not enough of a fan to call it 'AA' yet ;-) I watch it with my daughter to laugh at the next hypothesis and guess which crack pot will be coaching the Oilers next year.

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#46 Frank the dog
January 25 2014, 03:35PM
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toprightcorner wrote:

I have felt the same at times, you mentioned "docs you watched", would be interested if you could share.

I believe Eakins is the first coach since MacT that hold players accountable and most of the elite guys we have drafted grew up so skilled they were never held accountable and that is tough to take.

Some players could believe that if Eakins has a worse record than Kreuger, he too will be fired.

to me Eberle and Gagner seem to be the ones that show signs of trying for offence but lacking on effort on defense. just watch how many times that when the buck is turned over that they turn the wrong/long way which takes themselves out of the play, or they stop, pause for a second and then skate hard so they will never catch anyone but look like they are working hard getting back.

I think Eakins could spot the culprit and just hope MacT will get them off the team

IIRC the documentary was Oil Change, when they were all playing in OKC, and hanging around together, it was generally acknowledged that Eberle was the social leader of the gang. I've seen the comment in other places as well, IIRC on LT's blog.

The problem is this is a bit high stakes to simply cut and slash. I suppose you can cut and slash in Junior, and in the AHL and at the lower levels of player in the NHL, but it's a bit different when you are talking about the core players of your rebuild, and they know that too.

That doesn't mean that these young men are bad, just that they are a bit misdirected right now.

Having to dump one or more of them for less than full value would represent a loss, and having any of them leave in an antagonistic manner would also represent a loss for the Oil.

There was a very interesting blog by LT elsewhere a while back, that talked about how Dallas turned around as a team as soon as the GM at the time moved a player that no-one suspected he would trade. It turned out later that the player represented "darkness" on the team, and once that was removed the dynamic of the team changed as a whole.

The question, if we have the same problem here, is who is the darkness? This is not a new discussion, as LT knows, but with all the constants except for the assistants changed, that's starting, from a people management perspective anyway, to look like the case and the rest of the league knows that.

I tend to agree with you, I see Ebs as primary, and Gags as secondary. Tough nut to crack, for sure.

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#47 Wax Man Riley
January 25 2014, 04:44PM
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toprightcorner wrote:

If Ekblad's skating is suspect then pass. How many top 4dmen are there that cant skate? A good dman that can't skate usually has a long career in the minor leagues.

I say use the pick in a package for a proven top pairing dman. That's more important than a possible dman in 3-4 years.

Cam Barker anyone?

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#48 Johe
January 24 2014, 10:51PM
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That gif represents the Oilers season, right? Right.

Oh and draft Ekblad.

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#50 Drowning in Oil
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At least after all this winning, we will have something to look forward to this summer....... A number #1 overall pick.

And then I wake up and the day repeats itself over and over and over.

The Oilers are like Bill Murray in Ground Hog Day.

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