22 MILLION RESULTS FOR 'DILLON SIMPSON SHOT-BLOCKING'

Lowetide
January 26 2014 09:41AM

Dillon Simpson's progress from freshman through senior at North Dakota has been impressive. The Oilers draft choice will graduate this spring as a complete defenseman and a top pairing player for UND.  Where will he fit in with the Oilers? How long will it take for him to be NHL ready?

COLLEGE DEFENSEMEN

Usually, four years of college prepares a player for the NHL a little better than 2 years (after draft) of junior hockey. A lot of that comes from being more mature (four years versus two), but Simpson is 20 years old and in his senior year (he'll turn 21 around Valentine's Day).

Recent Oiler prospects who have come the college route took little time to reach the NHL:

  • Jeff Petry: 41 AHL games before NHL arrival
  • Tom Gilbert: 48 AHL games before NHL arrival
  • Tom Poti: 0 AHL games before NHL arrival

This of course is miles shorter than most junior grads, but we have to keep in mind that most of the college men arrive in pro hockey when they're early 20's. Gilbert was 23, Petry 22 when they arrived in the NHL. Simpson, should he play in the NHL next season, would be 21.

WHERE DOES HE FIT ON THE PROSPECT DEPTH CHART?

In September, I had him #7 on the prospect depth chart, and behind defenders Darnell Nurse, Oscar Klefbom, Martin Marincin and Martin Gernat. When he signs (and that's not done yet, obviously) he will also have to deal with men like David Musil, Taylor Fedun and Brandon Davidson in order to get to the NHL.

HOW GOOD IS HE?

Coach Dave Hakstol: "He's only 20 years old, we have freshmen older than him. But it's really not about the date on your birth certificate, it's about your level of maturity and your life experiences, your mindset and your ability to be consistent and accountable and do things the right way. I think Dillon is at the highest level of those areas."

Simpson's consistent play and calm feet, along with his willingness to sell-out to make the play (there are 22 million results for "Dillon Simpson shot blocking") suggests he might be a nice complement to all these chaos puck movers who are about to move into the Oilers blue.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

The Oilers have to sign Simpson, and that's not a slam dunk. The Stu MacGregor scouting team clearly drafted a guy in the fourth round who is performing at a very high level. Chances are Edmonton will have to pay a handsome bonus, and then there's the matter of making certain the young man doesn't shy away from the young depth chart ala Riley Nash.

I don't really believe Dillon Simpson is about shying away from anything. His UND career suggests quite the opposite.

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#51 OilDieHard
January 26 2014, 01:38PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Or the team collapses - the stars start demanding trades and the team continues to be in the bottom third of the league. And the current FOKs in management continue on being unaccountable.

Good luck attracting players then.

if the team "collapses" and continues to be in the bottom 3rd of the league for a couple of more years, then you'd have to think the old boys club would be fired then...i have to at least hope that Katz's loyalty to the old boys can only go so far? and the "be patient" BS can only be used for so long before it get's old too.

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#52 andrewmk20
January 26 2014, 01:54PM
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@Serious Gord

There should be some worry about that but a lot of clubs should be worried then. Jon Tavares in NYI should be demanding a trade any day now since he was selected in 2009 and the Islanders have been mired in mediocrity. Generally players seem to want to give their team a chance. I do agree that after a long period though the players patience does start to wear thin. Rick Nash in Columbus for instance. Drafted back in 2002 he waited for about a decade until he realized that whatever Columbus was trying to build around him wasn't working, now both sides are better off. Hopefully that doesn't happen here.

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#53 Oiler Al
January 26 2014, 02:19PM
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HIs dad is pretty sharp guy, and seems like the kid is no different, no way they would want to come to this circus. I dont blame them. Heck there isnt even a decent coach to guide a player, unless you think Smith is a genius.

Organization is so bad that Lowe didnt even want his kid signing with the Oilers.

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#54 D-Unit
January 26 2014, 02:53PM
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JSR wrote:

I'm a little confused....he's 20 years old and graduating from UND? Did he graduate from high school at 16, and immediately go to university?

My thoughts are he will not sign in Edmonton, much like Schultz did not sign with Anaheim...

I do believe that to be the case. I remember Craig talking about it on the radio a few years back.

If I am not mistaken, Craig did the same thing.

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#55 camdog
January 26 2014, 03:38PM
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@JSR

His birthday is in Feb. He was 17 when he finished high school and he is turning 21. He's playing against older and stronger players and doing well. With the glut in d projects the Oilers will need to either trade him or a few others in the system before he signs on.

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#56 OilDieHard
January 26 2014, 03:39PM
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@D-Unit....you may be right, i remember hearing the same thing, only Simpson had concerns about ever making the Oilers because there were going to be so many d-men NHL ready around the same time and he may get lost in the numbers game.

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#57 RexHolez
January 26 2014, 03:44PM
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Brian wrote:

IMO, Simpson was drafted based on his name alone.

LT cites Petry, Poti, Gilbert as comparisons. All soft and not what we need.

Skating ability? If any doubt, take a pass. Already have Musil and his bad skating.

LT, you ever see him live in order to state how good his progression has been?

And why would he sign here when he can probably go the Schultz route??

LT used those 3 as comparison because they too took the college route and not major junior.

Please read carefully before making judgements and looking like a crazed fan. Your post is moot till then.

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#58 pkam
January 26 2014, 04:09PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

HIs dad is pretty sharp guy, and seems like the kid is no different, no way they would want to come to this circus. I dont blame them. Heck there isnt even a decent coach to guide a player, unless you think Smith is a genius.

Organization is so bad that Lowe didnt even want his kid signing with the Oilers.

If Lowe didn't want his kid signing with the Oilers, it is not because of the team but the fans.

And Keegan doesn't need to listen to Kevin to know he better goes somewhere else. He knows very well how he was hated even being an OilKings.

He is smart enough to ask Kevin not to pick him. He knows he will not be appreciated like he will be anywhere else. If he was drafted by the Oilers, he will be trashed by the Oilers fans that he wouldn't got drafted by any team, only the Oilers would take him because of his father.

Then comes a spin like yours to trash the team. How sad that our team have fans like that.

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#59 RexHolez
January 26 2014, 04:25PM
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pkam wrote:

If Lowe didn't want his kid signing with the Oilers, it is not because of the team but the fans.

And Keegan doesn't need to listen to Kevin to know he better goes somewhere else. He knows very well how he was hated even being an OilKings.

He is smart enough to ask Kevin not to pick him. He knows he will not be appreciated like he will be anywhere else. If he was drafted by the Oilers, he will be trashed by the Oilers fans that he wouldn't got drafted by any team, only the Oilers would take him because of his father.

Then comes a spin like yours to trash the team. How sad that our team have fans like that.

@pkam Well put. Yes it is a bad team these days, but the fans are even worse. The cancer that is the fan base right now is very disgusting.

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#60 OilCanFan
January 26 2014, 05:31PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

But if Shultz was in the FA position today instead of back then I doubt very much he would have chosen the oil.

Like the team was so much better when he signed. My point is if one player can choose a crappy team, then so could another

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#61 pkam
January 26 2014, 05:35PM
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OilCanFan wrote:

Like the team was so much better when he signed. My point is if one player can choose a crappy team, then so could another

Team I think is slightly better than 2 years ago, however fans are way more negative than 2 years ago.

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#62 geeker99
January 26 2014, 05:52PM
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RexHolez wrote:

@pkam Well put. Yes it is a bad team these days, but the fans are even worse. The cancer that is the fan base right now is very disgusting.

while I agree in the nation it is a very poisonous atmosphere, I think at rexall there is not enough passion from fans for change. full barn every night and everything is "cool". bothers me that a fan throws a shirt and he has quit on the club. Hey Dallas you have been here 5 months, we have been living this for 7-8 years. REMEMBER THAT!

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#63 RexHolez
January 26 2014, 08:40PM
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geeker99 wrote:

while I agree in the nation it is a very poisonous atmosphere, I think at rexall there is not enough passion from fans for change. full barn every night and everything is "cool". bothers me that a fan throws a shirt and he has quit on the club. Hey Dallas you have been here 5 months, we have been living this for 7-8 years. REMEMBER THAT!

hey, fans are allowed to quit on the team for putting up with it for that long. However, the fan who did throw the second jersey on the ice, didnt quit on the team, hes a smart ass looking for attention. If someone really quit on the team they wouldnt pay the money to go to rexall in the first place. Eakins has every right to call that fan out cause that fan isnt a fan at all.

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#64 geeker99
January 26 2014, 09:05PM
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@RexHolez

I agree sending a message is basically ignoring this team. i also feel that sending a message in your home barn which sounds like its forbidden is not right. season ticket holders that are a bit reluctant about throwing in the towel is understandable. the shirt throw gained attention and I know it didn't do much it did in my eyes.

This team is full of wicked circles and thats what makes it sooo frustrating, it will make watching a winning team so sweet. If Katz was in a press box watching this season instead of hiding in Van in his mansion would go a long way with this fan.

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#65 REX12
January 26 2014, 10:04PM
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@OilCanFan

I bet he regrets signing with this under performing over paying dump of a team they have. Will not get anywhere until they split the goon squad of Hall and Eberle, both of them are party animals who dont care about winning

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#66 Zarny
January 27 2014, 08:35AM
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pkam wrote:

If Lowe didn't want his kid signing with the Oilers, it is not because of the team but the fans.

And Keegan doesn't need to listen to Kevin to know he better goes somewhere else. He knows very well how he was hated even being an OilKings.

He is smart enough to ask Kevin not to pick him. He knows he will not be appreciated like he will be anywhere else. If he was drafted by the Oilers, he will be trashed by the Oilers fans that he wouldn't got drafted by any team, only the Oilers would take him because of his father.

Then comes a spin like yours to trash the team. How sad that our team have fans like that.

It was neither the team nor the fans.

It was simply to avoid the obvious appearance of nepotism.

It was a huge concern for Acton Sr. and he's only an assistant coach. For the GM you simply can't do it. Doesn't matter how good Keegan is, or the team or what the fans are like.

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#67 rickithebear
January 27 2014, 08:58AM
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Chicago black hawks:from picks 1998 to 2009 Veersteeg, Sharp,Ladd, Kieth, Burish, Seabrook, Crawford, Byfuglien, Bollan, Bickell, Brouwer, Hjarlmasson, Toews,Kane, Kruger.

15 players

There seasons 1997-98 to 2008-2009

97-98 .445 out of playoffs

98-99 .427 out of playoffs

99-00 .476 out of playoffs

00-01 .433 out of playoffs

01-02 .585 out in round 1

02-03 .482 out of playoffs

03-04 .360 out of playoffs

05-06 .396 out of playoffs 06-07 .433 out of playoffs

07-08 .537 out of playoffs

08-09 .634 lost in Conf final

Sign Ufa's Hossa, Campbell, Sopel, Kopecky, Madden, Niemi 09-10 win cup.

I am tired of the Chicago is an instant cup builder. 12 years. 10 years of Suck!

Our base from pre Katz Hemsky UFA Petry RFA Gagner

10 years of terrible asset building under lowe/sather

Katz took over in 2008: This is Katz assets contract/rights next year Hall-RNH-Ebs Perron-Arco-Yak XXX-Gordon-XXX Jeonsuu-Hendricks-XXX Lander-Gazdic

XXX-XXX Ference-J. Schultz XXX-Marincin Larsen

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Pre katz Petry Gagner

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#68 Freewheeling Freddie
January 27 2014, 09:12AM
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REX12 wrote:

I bet he regrets signing with this under performing over paying dump of a team they have. Will not get anywhere until they split the goon squad of Hall and Eberle, both of them are party animals who dont care about winning

Hall and Eberle don't care about winning? Really. Hall won I believe two memorial cups and was was voted MVP twice. Also didn't Eberle score some very big goals for the Canadian juniors? The fans that throw jerseys on the ice should be barred for at least one year, and when they do make the playoffs no entry. I have seen the best of the Oilers and unfortunately the worst of the Oilers. A true fan never gives up on his team. What you didn't party in your twenties? I am pretty 99.9percent of the people on here did.Mac is slowly fixing this disaster Lowe and Tambo created.

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#69 Truth
January 27 2014, 09:14AM
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pkam wrote:

If Lowe didn't want his kid signing with the Oilers, it is not because of the team but the fans.

And Keegan doesn't need to listen to Kevin to know he better goes somewhere else. He knows very well how he was hated even being an OilKings.

He is smart enough to ask Kevin not to pick him. He knows he will not be appreciated like he will be anywhere else. If he was drafted by the Oilers, he will be trashed by the Oilers fans that he wouldn't got drafted by any team, only the Oilers would take him because of his father.

Then comes a spin like yours to trash the team. How sad that our team have fans like that.

IIRC Keegan asked his dad to pass over him if he was available when the Oilers selected. Nothing to do with the Oilers or the city. All to do with making the NHL on his own merit, or at least to prevent any allegations of being favorited after being drafted.

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#70 Truth
January 27 2014, 09:23AM
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I believe it is in Simpson's best interest to sign with the Oilers. Yes, there are a lot of defensive prospects, and yes some of them are highly regarded, but the Oilers NHL defense roster is the worst in the league. He has to beat out other prospects to make the NHL team, not actual NHL players.

If this was last year I would mention the bright future that the Oilers have and that being another reason for Simpson to sign here, but I'm not so sure of that being reality. They need to add multiple hard-to-acquire pieces or for a few of their prospects to pan out like they did in the 80's with Messier and Coffey.

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#71 Sal-Sational
January 27 2014, 09:26AM
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@pkam

i wonder why

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#72 Primo
January 27 2014, 09:36AM
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The Nepotism and losses will continue. Obviously for the Oiler organization it's more important to hire/draft based on relationship than content.

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#73 Oiler Al
January 27 2014, 09:41AM
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pkam wrote:

If Lowe didn't want his kid signing with the Oilers, it is not because of the team but the fans.

And Keegan doesn't need to listen to Kevin to know he better goes somewhere else. He knows very well how he was hated even being an OilKings.

He is smart enough to ask Kevin not to pick him. He knows he will not be appreciated like he will be anywhere else. If he was drafted by the Oilers, he will be trashed by the Oilers fans that he wouldn't got drafted by any team, only the Oilers would take him because of his father.

Then comes a spin like yours to trash the team. How sad that our team have fans like that.

Appreciate the comment. Whenn I made the remark about Lowe not wanting to sign his own kid.... I had my tongue in my cheek.. relax., but not so much about the team being a circus. Will have the worst record in franchise history.. and Thats a fact.. you can color it up and Koolade it anyway you like.

This has been a terrible rebuild.

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#74 pkam
January 27 2014, 10:41AM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Appreciate the comment. Whenn I made the remark about Lowe not wanting to sign his own kid.... I had my tongue in my cheek.. relax., but not so much about the team being a circus. Will have the worst record in franchise history.. and Thats a fact.. you can color it up and Koolade it anyway you like.

This has been a terrible rebuild.

Is this a terrible rebuild? Why not compare it to the Pens rebuild so have a better perspective.

The Pens started drafting top 5 in 2002. they drafter Whitney 5th overall in 2002, MAF 1st overall in 2003, Malkin 2nd overall in 2004, Crosby 1st overall in 2005, then Jordan Staal 2nd overall in 2006.

Before 2002 when they started their rebuild, they were making playoff 11 seasons in a row from 1990-91 to 2000-01.

The Oilers had missed the playoff 4 seasons in a row and was at the worst before the rebuild. So the Pens had a better team than the Oilers had before they started their rebuild.

The had drafted the 2 best NHL players Crosby and Malkin (even Malkin was drafted 2nd overall). Although we had 3 1st overall, none of them are in the same caliber of Crosby and Malkin.

After they drafted 4 years in a row which included Crosby and Malkin, they still finished 2nd last in their 5th year and drafted Staal.

In summary, we started our rebuild with a worse team. Although we drafted 3 1st overall, but we drafted in relative weak draft year while the Pens drafted in the strongest draft year.

This is our 5th year of our rebuild. The Pens finished 29th in their 5th years with Crosby and Malkin. If our rebuild is terrible, how do you describe their rebuild?

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#75 pkam
January 27 2014, 10:44AM
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Zarny wrote:

It was neither the team nor the fans.

It was simply to avoid the obvious appearance of nepotism.

It was a huge concern for Acton Sr. and he's only an assistant coach. For the GM you simply can't do it. Doesn't matter how good Keegan is, or the team or what the fans are like.

I understand the concern of nepotism. I am just bordered by fans who spin this to trash the team.

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#76 pkam
January 27 2014, 10:52AM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Appreciate the comment. Whenn I made the remark about Lowe not wanting to sign his own kid.... I had my tongue in my cheek.. relax., but not so much about the team being a circus. Will have the worst record in franchise history.. and Thats a fact.. you can color it up and Koolade it anyway you like.

This has been a terrible rebuild.

Lowe is not a capable management staff, but he is undoubtedly the biggest Oilers fan, bigger than anyone on this site.

Even if you want to be sarcastic, there should be a line and imo your comment has crossed the line.

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#77 pkam
January 27 2014, 11:05AM
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Truth wrote:

IIRC Keegan asked his dad to pass over him if he was available when the Oilers selected. Nothing to do with the Oilers or the city. All to do with making the NHL on his own merit, or at least to prevent any allegations of being favorited after being drafted.

I am aware of that and I am sure most Oilers fans are too.

If you know the hate towards Keegan from some Edmonton fans, I don't blame Keegan. If I was him, I wouldn't want anything to do with the Oilers.

And then a fan spin this to trash the Oilers. How sad.

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#78 John Kirsch
January 27 2014, 09:26PM
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rickithebear wrote:

Chicago black hawks:from picks 1998 to 2009 Veersteeg, Sharp,Ladd, Kieth, Burish, Seabrook, Crawford, Byfuglien, Bollan, Bickell, Brouwer, Hjarlmasson, Toews,Kane, Kruger.

15 players

There seasons 1997-98 to 2008-2009

97-98 .445 out of playoffs

98-99 .427 out of playoffs

99-00 .476 out of playoffs

00-01 .433 out of playoffs

01-02 .585 out in round 1

02-03 .482 out of playoffs

03-04 .360 out of playoffs

05-06 .396 out of playoffs 06-07 .433 out of playoffs

07-08 .537 out of playoffs

08-09 .634 lost in Conf final

Sign Ufa's Hossa, Campbell, Sopel, Kopecky, Madden, Niemi 09-10 win cup.

I am tired of the Chicago is an instant cup builder. 12 years. 10 years of Suck!

Our base from pre Katz Hemsky UFA Petry RFA Gagner

10 years of terrible asset building under lowe/sather

Katz took over in 2008: This is Katz assets contract/rights next year Hall-RNH-Ebs Perron-Arco-Yak XXX-Gordon-XXX Jeonsuu-Hendricks-XXX Lander-Gazdic

XXX-XXX Ference-J. Schultz XXX-Marincin Larsen

XXX XXX

Pre katz Petry Gagner

So what is your point?

We don't have (nor have ever drafted)any player that is anywhere near a Veersteeg, Sharp, Kieth, Seabrook, Crawford, Byfuglien, Bollan, Bickell, Brouwer, Hjarlmasson.

I know you think those players (of similar skill) are in our lineup right, no they are not.

Chicago drafted two all time greats in Toews, Kane. Who are our greats?

Hall and Hopkins are very good players but not great players.

Lastly what top tier UFA would come to Edmonton at this point, riddle me that...

We need to build a proper team like they have done all over the Western Conference; a team that can get into the playoffs- at the very least.

The script for success in the NHL has been written, we need to embrace that script with our own mix of players, not reject it or think we can turn back the clock.

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