DUCK HUNTING

Jason Gregor
January 03 2014 01:24PM

After a 5-1 attack by the Sharks last night, things don't get any easier for the Oilers tonight when they will try to hand the Ducks their first home regulation loss of the season. The Ducks are 15-0-2 at home, and have outscored their opponents 65-31. The Ducks have allowed three goals twice and four goals once in 17 games, so don't expect much offence from the Oilers tonight.

The harsh reality is that the Oilers are severely overmatched heading into tonight's match. While they try not to think about that, I'm sure it is impossible not to have those thoughts creep into their head. If the Ducks score early, things could get ugly.

LINEU...updated

Hall-RNH-Perron
Yakupov-Gagner-??
Smyth-Gordon-Hemsky
Joensuu-???-Gazdic

Ference-J.Schultz
Marincin-Petry
Hunt-N.Schultz

Bryzgalov

Eberle has a knee injury and won't play.  It sounds like Jones and Arcobello will return, so we won't know the exact lines until later. If it is me I put Hemsky with Yakupov and Gagner. Yakupov has more success playing with Hemsky than he does any other forward.

The Oilers have recalled D-man Brad Hunt from OKC, and he'll be a game time decision. Maybe an Oiler D-man is banged up, or maybe they want to put someone in the pressbox. Martin Marincin has played well enough to stay in the lineup, and it would be odd to take him out and insert 5'9" Hunt against the Ducks.

Quick scouting report on Hunt... "Smart player. Moves the puck well and fires it hard. Not overly fast, but makes up for it with hockey sense."

Why was Hunt recalled and not Klefbom some wonder? Fair question, but it happened because Hunt is playing better right now, and partially because it is best to keep Klefbom away from a losing environment. Klefbom is also still dealing with an injury, but even prior to that he was only playing okay according to coaching reports.

Either way, the Oilers need a strong effort from all 18 skaters if they have a hope of being competitive tonight.

QUICK HITS

  • Oilers are so far away from the elite teams in the league it is scary. It illustrates just how far they have to go. I don't see a quick fix over the summer.
     
  • I might be in minority, but I think J.Schultz has improved his defensive game a lot the past two weeks. He's making smarter decisions with and without the puck. He's only played 83 NHL games, so he likely needs at least another 100 before he's really solid, but he's been one of the few positives recently.

TONIGHT...

GAME DAY PREDICTION: Many will ask who is that? It is Nina Agnal, and with -30 weather coming to Edmonton and a likely 4-1 loss to the Ducks tonight, I felt Oilers fans needed a small "pick me up."

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Oiler fans will watch, and some will be infuriated when the Oilers make a bad play. I love the passion and the fact fans still have hope that things will change. God love you.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: The entire comment section will be full of positive posts. They will only focus on the good plays in hopes that that will change the fortunes of the Oilers. Pointing out every bad play hasn't helped the Oilers, so posters elect to channel their inner "George Costanza" and write the opposite of their first thoughts.

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#1 dobiezeke
January 03 2014, 10:44PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Eakins takes a time out, pulls goalie, has a 6-3 & the team passes it around the perimeter without so much as a single shot on net?

Has no pure shooter on that PP, his second unit finally gets on for the last 30 seconds.

This guy would rather lose then use Yakupov correctly.........amazing!!

Out scored & outshot about 15000 to 35 in the last three games.

He's going to do his passive aggressive post game, " I thought we started out good, but those defensive turnovers by our defence killed us" .

The Oilers get to fly home & play TB who will be waiting for them.

Yak has the hockey sense of a 10 year old ringette girl...no surprise he isn't playing on the PP.

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#2 FireKLowe
January 03 2014, 02:49PM
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I wonder how many times Katz has sucked Lowe's kock in his office at Rexall? I bet he gets Lowe to put all 6 cup rings on his fingers as he's holding his head ... What a turn on it must be!

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#3 Lochenzo
January 03 2014, 02:25PM
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There's nothing wrong with Dallas Eakins. He's had success bringing along young players and getting them to play at a high level. But it took time to build that with the Marlies and it will take time here.

I don't understand why some people want to start at the beginning again with a new coach and new system. I guess you could argue that the Oilers are still learning the basics so systems do not matter at this point.

I hear Jon Cooper's name mentioned as a coulda-shoulda-woulda. But Jon started with the Admirals so a lot of players currently on the TB roster learned to play the pro game under Jon's system. I think Jon's success is attributable to that.

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#4 dobiezeke
January 03 2014, 10:52PM
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Greg the Hammer Valentine wrote:

Anybody still belive they should keep Eakins at all costs, in the name of stability?

Yes...keep Eakins, get rid of the trained monkeys that are the assistant coaches and bring in an experienced associate coach.

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#5 etownman
January 03 2014, 03:09PM
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I wouldn't be so quick to write off the future Gregor! Bad contracts ending, trades, experience of one more year, FA signings can change things very quickly! I for one trust MacT when he says he's impatient to win & I do understand he needs to be in a better position to make meaningful trades & signings! I'm pretty sure everybody knows the type of players the Oilers need, let's just give MacT a good opportunity to make it happen! He hasn't had that opportunity yet to make his mark!

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#6 Don W
January 03 2014, 10:58PM
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Greg the Hammer Valentine wrote:

Anybody still belive they should keep Eakins at all costs, in the name of stability?

I didn't watch the game but I've been watching the oilers for the last 4-5 coaches (not sure I've lost count). It is unlikely that the coach is the problem. This team is not good enough.

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#7 pkam
January 03 2014, 05:18PM
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Sisyphus wrote:

Close. Make that Hall OR RNH, Klefbon, 1st rounder, and hey, throw in another prospect (not top quality, but decent) for Weber, and sure, that would do for me.

I wouldn't send Hall AND RNH for the same player, but one or the other, sure. Or Hall for one top quality needed player, and RNH or Ebs for another very needed player, again, yes, I'm okay with that

You are okay with Hall/RNH + Klefbom + 1st rounder for Weber, but is Poile okay with that? Is Weber willing to come to Edmonton?

I believe Poile will be okay with both Hall + RNH in the package (not 100% sure as Poile may think he can squeeze us more), but will Weber be happy to come here?

I know Weber's contract doesn't have a NTC, but will he ask for a trade after he arrives, like Pronger and Souray did to us?

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#8 pkam
January 03 2014, 05:47PM
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K_Mart wrote:

I remember Souray showing up at camp asking to wipe the slate clean and stay with the team. Tambellini did everything in his power to squander the value we had there, forcing souray out of town.

He didn't apologized for what he did to the organization.

What will you do if you are the boss and one of your employees embarrasses you and your company in the public, then he asks to wipe the slate clean without even an apology?

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#9 Dave
January 03 2014, 02:11PM
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Cody anderson wrote:

Can we fire Eakins yet?

The last thing this team needs is another coaching change, but the lines and player usage this guy goes with completely baffles me.

Perron and Yak both being played on their off wings.

The 2 forwards that are the worst defensively are being played together and not seeing heavily sheltered minutes.

Belov and J Schultz are often played together.

My kid could draw up better lines, and provide better line matching.

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Can we fire Eakins yet?

The last thing this team needs is another coaching change, BUT the lines and player usage this guy goes with completely baffles me.

Perron and Yak both being played on their off wings.

The 2 forwards that are the worst defensively are being played together and not seeing heavily sheltered minutes.

Belov and J Schultz are often played together.

My kid could draw up better lines, and provide better line matching.

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#10 RexHolez
January 03 2014, 10:18PM
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Ok, its time to stop dumping on this team. It's been enough already. It's time we as a fan base start sending positive vibes and building on the positives! for example.... The oilers jerseys looked clean and well washed tonight. whats the secret? Tide cold water? do the jerseys get ironed?

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#11 Brian
January 03 2014, 02:00PM
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Where is Toby Peterson when we need him? Wasn't he the guy MacT said was Sakic-like? That enough should have should have warned us all about his judgment and kept him far away from a GM office.

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#12 dobiezeke
January 03 2014, 03:25PM
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michael wrote:

Happy New Year. Welcome to January where the weather is cold and the hearts of Oilers fans grow even colder.

Listening to Lowetide and Mcurdy today was like being at a wake before the body has arrived.

I am not naïve. I am not a at all costs kind of guy. Nor am I an eternal optimist. I am realist. And what we've so far from Dallas Eakins instills me with no confidence in his ability to coach this team to the next level. Regardless of the players MacT puts on the ice.

Rookie head coach. Rookie mistakes. I have no confidence in him. At all. Last night was bizzare. Saying nothing during the timeout. His body language and facial expressions are all wrong. He exudes anger. Its like he is pissed off all the time. Its not contusive to teaching young players. At all.

Instead of taking the time to teach. Eakins just stares off into space. Silence can certainly send a message in the dressing room. But on the bench during a timeout, during a game? Please anyone correct me if I am wrong. Is that not inappropriate.

The message I think it sends is I can't be bothered to say anything because you all just won't listen to me anyways.

MacT should step up to the podium after this season is over and announce another new coach for next season. Someone with NHL experience as a head coach.

The proof is in the win/loss column. This train wreck will continue for another 40 games. I have never/ever wished for a season to end as much as I do this year. I see very little in the way of positives. MacT provided the players. What we did not expect was that the coach was wearing the Emperors new clothes. Did not see that coming. At all

I don't disagree that Eakins saying nothing isn't disturbing however if you watch any other NHL game you rarely see the head coach talking to the players during a timeout. Normally it is the assistant/special teams coaches talking to the players.

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#13 pkam
January 03 2014, 04:42PM
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Sisyphus wrote:

Obviously I can't speak for all fans, but it seems to me the reason there is so much complaining is this:

Given how truly BAD this team is, at this point we'd rather see moves, even if they maybe dont work out (a risk anytime a move is made), rather than continuing status quo. Because that leads to more of the same, for at least several more years.

DO SOMETHING. At this point, I literally cannot think of a player that I would be opposed to sending out of town, if it brought something we really needed back. That includes RNH and Hall. If we got something back that we really, really need now, I'd be okay with it

I am sure Weber will help us. Did someone suggest in another article that Hall + RNH + Klefbon + 1st rounder for Weber? I think this will be good enough for Nashville. So you are okay with this?

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#14 dobiezeke
January 03 2014, 10:18PM
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Robert (AKA Hockey Fan) wrote:

Siberia maybe......?

If he takes Belov and Yak then I support that move.

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#15 outdoorzguy
January 03 2014, 10:39PM
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Drowning in Oil wrote:

I am so sick of this crap. Our advanced stats show we are a playoff team and yet here we sit in last place... Oh sorry 29th place. Again we outplay another team and again we lose........... I hope you can tell I'm laughing. I know Mac T is really into his advanced stats..... News Bulletin!! Mac T, you ain't Billy Bean.

Advanced stats!! What the hell is that? A loss is a loss. This IS a lousy team. The only stat that matters is wins in professional sports. This team isn't capable of winning. Advanced stats???? Give us a break.

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#16 dobiezeke
January 03 2014, 11:12PM
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outdoorzguy wrote:

Cause Eakins has proven he knows what he is doing?

And the past four coaches have made a difference? We have had every type of coach from hard ass to cuddling the players. No change in how the team plays. The only consistent factor has been the clowns playing the roles of assistant coaches. How will bringing in a new coach change anything if you don't clear out the bench?

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#17 nick
January 03 2014, 01:37PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

It's a brilliant move for the Oilers to get smaller against the biggest team in the NHL. I see no reason someone listed at 5'9" from the farm can't excel, nay THRIVE AND SUCCEED against those bums Perry and Getzlaf.

Hugs and kisses,

George

Just when you thought the Oilers coaches and management couldn't get any dumber they pull off another magic moment. A 5'9" defenceman, just brilliant, next to the 5'9" centreman they got (Horak) for Smid this team is really bulking up. Stupid is as stupid does and between KLowe, MacT and Eakins it is hard to tell which one is stupid.

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#18 Virtual_Xi
January 03 2014, 03:26PM
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Brian wrote:

Where is Toby Peterson when we need him? Wasn't he the guy MacT said was Sakic-like? That enough should have should have warned us all about his judgment and kept him far away from a GM office.

Did sakic have diabetes? Because if so that is the only thing that would compare those two players

*mad props to Peterson for Player no professional hockey with type 1 diabetes.

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#19 Lowe Expectations
January 03 2014, 03:28PM
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I'm personally done with the Oilers for this season. Tonight I'm watching the Raptors game. Their a young, hard working team where you can see the players getting better. A big opposite from what this hockey team is.

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#20 outdoorzguy
January 03 2014, 04:14PM
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I hope Yakupov scores tonight. I like watching guys make fools of themselves. When you're down 4-0 and you score, you don't celebrate like it was the cup winning goal. You put your tail between your legs, skate back to center ice for the face off and try and do it again.

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#21 Zamboni Driver
January 03 2014, 01:29PM
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It's a brilliant move for the Oilers to get smaller against the biggest team in the NHL. I see no reason someone listed at 5'9" from the farm can't excel, nay THRIVE AND SUCCEED against those bums Perry and Getzlaf.

Hugs and kisses,

George

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#22 Chet134
January 03 2014, 02:53PM
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loweblows wrote:

No UFA D man in his right mind would sign here next year. The chance of acquiring a legitimate 1 or 2 D man is slim with the increasing cap. There are no true legitimate shutdown D man in the system other than say Nurse and potentially Klefbom. So ya that is probably the plan. And in a heartbeat I would trade Eberle for Brown and maybe Toffoli.

I agree with ur comment. Klefbom and nurse r our future. U may not want to hear this but I honestly think Ekblad is that player. He's a stud. He's been playing 20/25 minutes at the worlds. That's unheard of with Canada but r the fans willing to wait.

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#23 Chet134
January 03 2014, 02:56PM
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Chet134 wrote:

I agree with ur comment. Klefbom and nurse r our future. U may not want to hear this but I honestly think Ekblad is that player. He's a stud. He's been playing 20/25 minutes at the worlds. That's unheard of with Canada but r the fans willing to wait.

Sorry as a 17 yr old.

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#24 Zamboni Driver
January 03 2014, 03:06PM
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@cubsfan

Interesting (barely) bit of trivia.

Both college games tonight feature:

Tigers vs. OSU.

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#25 The Real Scuba Steve
January 03 2014, 03:33PM
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Danger Pay wrote:

Anaheim has more Home Wins, than the Oilers Total Wins. Ouch.

Now you know how really bad your team is when the opposition has more wins at home that your whole teams total LOL.

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#26 Chet134
January 03 2014, 03:51PM
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RexHolez wrote:

I don't think we need to win a trade. We just need to balance out the roster. I also think you're overrating Eberle a bit, and quality Dmen are hard to find but they're out there. This rebuild is being terribly managed

Smid was a reactionary move that tells me the whole stick with the plan idea is going out the window. If you knew you didn't want smid, would Ottawa not have taken him in return for bishop??

Eberle has scored 34 goals two years ago and was on his way to score 30 goals last year but it ws a lockout season. Only 17 players in the league score over 30 a year plus he's 23 yrs old. Then add in his pedegree. Do I think its a straight up trade subban for Eberle. No but close maybe Ebs and kleffbom get it done. Montreal won't trade him tho

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#27 pkam
January 03 2014, 04:15PM
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Sisyphus wrote:

All of them. But seriously, I mean ALL OF THEM. Can you imagine a player who wouldn't include them. Makes the job of fixing things via trade much harder. No one with a NTC/ltd NTC is going to waive it for Edmonton.

Keeping that in mind, how many FA's do you think would rather take a lesser offer from a team OTHER than Edmonton, just to avoid having to come here? Or take a PTO with another team, rather than signing on here. Definitely no FA is signing more than a one-year contract here until there are hints of light at the end of the tunnel

Do the Oilers have the most trade request from players in the past decade too?

I can also see the other GM try to freeze our management in trade discussion. Honestly, I would too if I am the GM of a NHL team.

So we can't sign UFA unless we overpay. Most players if not all are refusing to be traded here. When there is a few who have no NTC, we have to give more to make trade with other teams. Then some of our players are requesting trade after we sign them to a juicy contract or being traded here.

I find it funny that fans seem to understand all the challenges our management are facing, yet they keep complaining that our management is not doing a good enough job.

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#28 RexHolez
January 03 2014, 04:50PM
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pkam wrote:

I am sure Weber will help us. Did someone suggest in another article that Hall + RNH + Klefbon + 1st rounder for Weber? I think this will be good enough for Nashville. So you are okay with this?

can we take out hall and put in eberle??

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#29 K_Mart
January 03 2014, 06:28PM
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Off topic... but anyways. It's time we admitted Jultz isn't ever going to be a #2 like we'd hoped. He's basically going to be Dennis Wideman. Nothing more. A serviceable NHL defenseman against easy competition with powerplay time. And he's soft as butter, just like everyone else on this frikkin roster. Right now everyone knows the oilers' biggest problem(one of many) is the roster we have on D. But that isn't changing. Eakins needs to make a change that is easy and will have a MASSIVE and IMMEDIATE IMPACT. GET EVERYONE HITTING. EVERYONE. Eakins said "Usually when you out hit your opposition, it's because they had the puck all night, and that's not a good thing." First off, that's no excuse to loop away from a check, second, I guarantee you that ANAHEIM will have the puck more than us tonight, so we better be finishing our checks. 2 years ago I posted a long rant about how our top guys need to learn to finish their checks all the time even if they are small and that isn't "their game", because there is no cavalry coming. It didn't happen. Hall, Ebs, and Nuge have resorted to playing non contact hockey in a contact league. Game over. The oilers were out hit last night by a tally of like 25-10 and we NEVER HAD THE PUCK. WTF is that about?!?! During the five years that ron low was our coach, if we were on a losing skid he would always resort to having every player on the team just hit everything that moved. It made teams HATE coming into our building. Heck, Doug Weight practically lead the charge most nights. Sure we barely squeeked in to the playoffs, but every game was a battle for the opposition because we punished them. And we weren't that big either. The bottom line is that it hurts getting hit all game, even if it's by small players. I'm not saying ignore position in order to make a hit, but right now our team plays as if this is a non contact sport and that is unacceptable. Get Pitlick in this line up, he's better than Joensuu at everything. And he's a hitting machine. It's a start at least. When people say the oilers can't go into a game trying to be something they aren't and out muscle a team that is simply much bigger than them, it tells me the game is lost before it even starts. This is a contact sport. There's no way around that. No matter how smart our guys are defensively, no matter how skilled they are, if they give the other team a free ride physically all it's going to do is boost the opposition's confidence and make things that much worse. Knowing what kind of team you have, and completely abandoning a part of the game that is essential are two completely different things. If arcobello can wobble Chara, then every player on this team can deliver damage on a hit to any other player. I'm so sick of watching Eberle loop away from a body check that he should be finishing. Man does it suck. In my opinion, this is the easiest, and quickest fix that Eakins could implement right now. It's only one part of a plethora of problems, but the fact that it continues to be ignored drives me up the wall. FINISH YOUR CHECKS. FOR THE LOVE OF HOCKEY, JUST DO IT.

Here's Ron Low out coaching Ken Hitchcock and getting the Oilers to out muscle a seemingly bigger, stronger, and more veteran team. http://video.oilers....nsole?id=189953

Every Oiler from the first to fourth line finishes every hit in these highlights 1997 oilers v stars. Absolute classic

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#30 Primo
January 03 2014, 06:38PM
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pkam wrote:

I don't know if Hall, Eberle, and RNH already want to leave and ask for a trade. If they already did, then the management is probably working on it.

However, I heard rumors that Weber wasn't even interested in discussing an offersheet with the Oilers 2 years ago. So if he has a NTC, do you think Oilers will be included? It makes it very likely that he will ask for a trade.

If Eberle hasn't asked for a trade he will after tonight. He is sitting out vs the Ducks. Perhaps a trade is imminent?

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#31 Butters
January 03 2014, 01:40PM
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Opposite thoughts? Sounds fun. Oilers win 2-1. Yakupov coughs up the puck on the loan Ducks goal. Eakins is asked about it, and goes ballistic defending his young forward.

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#32 michael
January 03 2014, 02:02PM
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Happy New Year. Welcome to January where the weather is cold and the hearts of Oilers fans grow even colder.

Listening to Lowetide and Mcurdy today was like being at a wake before the body has arrived.

I am not naïve. I am not a at all costs kind of guy. Nor am I an eternal optimist. I am realist. And what we've so far from Dallas Eakins instills me with no confidence in his ability to coach this team to the next level. Regardless of the players MacT puts on the ice.

Rookie head coach. Rookie mistakes. I have no confidence in him. At all. Last night was bizzare. Saying nothing during the timeout. His body language and facial expressions are all wrong. He exudes anger. Its like he is pissed off all the time. Its not contusive to teaching young players. At all.

Instead of taking the time to teach. Eakins just stares off into space. Silence can certainly send a message in the dressing room. But on the bench during a timeout, during a game? Please anyone correct me if I am wrong. Is that not inappropriate.

The message I think it sends is I can't be bothered to say anything because you all just won't listen to me anyways.

MacT should step up to the podium after this season is over and announce another new coach for next season. Someone with NHL experience as a head coach.

The proof is in the win/loss column. This train wreck will continue for another 40 games. I have never/ever wished for a season to end as much as I do this year. I see very little in the way of positives. MacT provided the players. What we did not expect was that the coach was wearing the Emperors new clothes. Did not see that coming. At all

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#33 Cody anderson
January 03 2014, 02:05PM
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Can we fire Eakins yet?

The last thing this team needs is another coaching change, but the lines and player usage this guy goes with completely baffles me.

Perron and Yak both being played on their off wings.

The 2 forwards that are the worst defensively are being played together and not seeing heavily sheltered minutes.

Belov and J Schultz are often played together.

My kid could draw up better lines, and provide better line matching.

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#34 Mac962
January 03 2014, 02:17PM
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What i dont understand is why no one, MACT - KBLOWE-KATZ None of them address the die hard paying and non paying tier 1 and 2 fans. WTF is going on , what are your intentions ? Do something for crying out loud, talk to the fans. I have bleed Orange and Blue since the days of the Alberta Oilers in the WHA and this lack of respect towards US THE FANS ! and the only reason this league exists. But not a word, MacT , Have you gone into that dressing room and tore a strip off this dwarf of a team, i somehow doubt it. You sit and hide and do nothing but cash your cheque.

Never , ever in my wildest dreams did i think the Oilers would ever be in this state, Yeah, we are a small market team, but the rink is packed night in and night out because we are fools who love our hockey, our city and our team. And you have done this to us ??

Man up Katz you recluse SOB Weirdo, rich or not, you dont deserve this team. Lowe ? Get out of town please and never ever come back. MacT , Grow a spine - show the core players [ all 3 of them] you will do something. BE Bold, show us you are trying, if you make a move that backfires, we can deal with that, but show some balls.

Our Edmonton Oilers - the Joke of the NHL. I cannot believe it.

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#35 Chet134
January 03 2014, 02:31PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

If the team continues to fail at the current clip rexall/Rogers place will not be able to flood the ice with all of the jerseys covering the ice.

Something has to be done.

I agree but it has to make sense or wait til the draft. Would u trade Dustin brown/kyle Clifford/tyler toffoli for Eberle.

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#36 Rama Lama
January 03 2014, 02:46PM
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I do not want anyone traded for anyone unless we have " fresh minds" at the table.

I for one do not trust anyone ( including Mac T) in acquiring players........they are still operating under the small, fast, player category and Brad Hunt is a perfect example. I do not trust Eakins in being able to coach anyone properly.

I'm still waiting for Eakins to put one of the forwards in goal as a new age coaching strategy.

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#37 RexHolez
January 03 2014, 02:53PM
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Ed in PV wrote:

I think we do have plenty of smurf forwards.

Agreed but atleast he skated as hard without the puck as he did with it

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#38 Soccer Steve
January 03 2014, 03:02PM
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Serenity Now Serenity Now Serenity Now Serenity Now

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#39 The Swarm
January 03 2014, 03:08PM
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Eakins = The Hunter

Boudreau = The Duck

Eakins: "I am so revolutionary and genius, that out coaching Boudreau will be as easy as shooting ducks in a barrel".

klikt...

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#40 Rama Lama
January 03 2014, 03:20PM
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I'm getting ready ahead of time:

Oilers get blown out.....as usual.

Penner gets a hatty. Souray crushes one of our Smurfs.

Eakins calls out Yaks as being the culprit, yet again.

Final score Ducks 8 Oilers 2

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#41 nick
January 03 2014, 03:20PM
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Lochenzo wrote:

There's nothing wrong with Dallas Eakins. He's had success bringing along young players and getting them to play at a high level. But it took time to build that with the Marlies and it will take time here.

I don't understand why some people want to start at the beginning again with a new coach and new system. I guess you could argue that the Oilers are still learning the basics so systems do not matter at this point.

I hear Jon Cooper's name mentioned as a coulda-shoulda-woulda. But Jon started with the Admirals so a lot of players currently on the TB roster learned to play the pro game under Jon's system. I think Jon's success is attributable to that.

Give your head a shake, who did he develop with the Marlies? Oh ya Khadri, that is his claim to fame and that is it. Eakins is a joke and everyone knows it. Even the 5 year old knows that

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#42 RexHolez
January 03 2014, 03:21PM
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I'm curious, out of all the comtracts with limited no trade clauses where the player gets to give a list of teams he can't get traded to, i wonder how many Edmontons on

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#43 RexHolez
January 03 2014, 03:42PM
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Chet134 wrote:

Valid point however I think we lose any trade with Eberle or our number one pick cuz we won't get a subban type defenseman back. There's very few of those type players unless u draft them. No one will give them up. Management put us under the eight more than people think. from day one I thought we going to be a bottom feeder again cuz we didn't fix the problem. Soft, small, too many young kids in a leading role and defense.

I don't think we need to win a trade. We just need to balance out the roster. I also think you're overrating Eberle a bit, and quality Dmen are hard to find but they're out there. This rebuild is being terribly managed

Smid was a reactionary move that tells me the whole stick with the plan idea is going out the window. If you knew you didn't want smid, would Ottawa not have taken him in return for bishop??

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#44 bwar
January 03 2014, 04:40PM
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I agree with you about J. Schultz. I thought he had been atrocious the first half of the year but has started to play better defensively over the past week or two. Hopefully he continues to improve and can be considered a legit 1st pairing guy in the near future.

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#45 Sisyphus
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pkam wrote:

I am sure Weber will help us. Did someone suggest in another article that Hall + RNH + Klefbon + 1st rounder for Weber? I think this will be good enough for Nashville. So you are okay with this?

Close. Make that Hall OR RNH, Klefbon, 1st rounder, and hey, throw in another prospect (not top quality, but decent) for Weber, and sure, that would do for me.

I wouldn't send Hall AND RNH for the same player, but one or the other, sure. Or Hall for one top quality needed player, and RNH or Ebs for another very needed player, again, yes, I'm okay with that

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#46 Greg the Hammer Valentine
January 03 2014, 10:49PM
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Anybody still belive they should keep Eakins at all costs, in the name of stability?

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#47 cubsfan
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Serious Gord wrote:

So Eakins has been the coach of record now for the worst half season in oilers history. They are playing as bad now as they have played all season.

Clearly the only reasons for keeping him as coach for the rest of the season are the past - five coaches in six years - and MacT having staked so much of his reputation on what he thought was a steal of an addition - signing him to what I think is an unprecedented four years for a rookie coach.

So even though it is blatantly evident that Eakins should be fired by now he has not been fired because of VANITY and face-saving. Nothing else.

If this teams management is prepared to sacrifice this season and one year of these players careers for that shallow a motive then it is rotten to its very core. Either it is completely purged or we are looking at at least another lost decade.

i'm not happy with eakins either.....but everyone complained that kreuger got a raw deal when he was let go with only a little more than 40 games in his tenure.....i agree he got screwed....

before we jettison off another disposable head coach......lets jettison the assistants and bring in a quality goalie coach to boot.....i think smith and bucky are more than culpable, and have been here way to long ... i think first things first....let eakins bring in his guys.......

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#48 Chet134
January 03 2014, 01:34PM
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The Oilers r bringing a knife to a gun fight however show up. Battle, compete, show some pride. That's all we ask.

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#49 Zamboni Driver
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** wrote:

Here's my game day prediction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XExum0-u8wI

Hint: Oilers are the team in green.

Sure it was 31-2, but I bet the team in green had a better Corsi! Because that's a thing.

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#50 RexHolez
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Positive Post: oilers get blown out 6-1, a rain of oiler jersey's fall on the Anaheim ice. Katz sees this and fires KLowe and hires new assistant coaches to appease the fan base. Oilers immediately go on a 6 game win streak.

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