Oilers acquire Mark Fraser from Toronto

Jonathan Willis
January 31 2014 09:06AM

TSN's Darren Dreger reports that the Oilers have added some size to their blue line, adding Mark Fraser from Toronto.

What The Oilers Sent Away

The players going the other way in the deal were both outside of the organization's plans, so the cost on this isn't especially dear.

Teemu Hartikainen is having a pretty good season in Russia and has to be the guy the Leafs were interested in on this deal. He's a big winger with some skill who couldn't do much in 23 NHL games last season with the Oilers; he wasn't interested in staying in the organization on a two-way deal and so he went off to Russia. I've been told down the line that this isn't a player that Edmonton really had plans for, but that doesn't mean he might not break out with the Leafs. 

Cameron Abney, the other guy in the trade, has negative value; he's an ECHL enforcer taking up a spot on Edmonton's 50-man list. In the Oilers' organization he was passed as a player by Erick Lizon (currently with the CHL's Wichita Thunder). 

What the Oilers Added

Everybody hoping Edmonton would add a big, physical defenceman for the third pair got their wish today.

Fraser is listed at 6'4", 220 pounds. He has had three fights in the NHL this season; last year he had nine fights in the majors and eight in the AHL. He's a stay-at-home defenceman who plays a throwback style; the new Theo Peckham on Edmonton's blue line. 

As for what he is as a player? Theo Peckham isn't far-off as a comparison there, either. Fraser has struggled badly this year, with regular partners Paul Ranger and Morgan Rielly both faring better without him than with him. Of interest, though, is the way he and Cody Franson played together last season, and the way his regular partners in New Jersey (primarily Andy Greene and Johnny Oduya) played with and without him. He has had a measure of success in the NHL before, even if he isn't enjoying that this season.

For the time being the pending unrestricted free agent can provide the Oilers with physical play in the six/seven slot and provide the Oilers with a warm body if they choose to move other free agents like Anton Belov or Nick Schultz or Corey Potterat the deadline. He has familiarity with Dallas Eakins from time spent with the Marlies, so he should slot in to the Oilers system with relative ease, and his skillset is a nice fit alongside any of Potter, Philip Larsen or Taylor Fedun on that bottom pair.

This is a small trade, but it adds a dimension the Oilers were lacking at the cost of players the team didn't really care about anyway. The player with the most potential to be an NHL difference-maker went to Toronto, but Hartikainen wasn't going to be that guy in Edmonton and the trade market for 'tweeners who want one-way deals isn't as robust as it could be. 

Update - via @Steve_Dangle of Leafs Nation comes this Hockey Night in Canada segment on Fraser:

Additionally, Jeff Veillette - who covered Fraser in person when Fraser played for the AHL's Toronto Marlies - wrote a piece on the trade for Leafs Nation.

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#51 Rocknrolla
January 31 2014, 11:18AM
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Czar wrote:

The Oilers got a D-man who's willing to drop the mitts for spare parts, what's not to like?

Oiler's get tougher and still everyone complains? Wait until he bitch slaps a Canuck or Flame! Or he steps in when someone's taking liberties with one of the kids,maybe then you might come around.

I agree, not having a tough d-man on the ice has hurt us. The nice thing about tough D is that they are on the ice while the kids are out there.

How often is Gazdic out with Hall or Yak?

I remember saying when we had Andy Sutton that it was nice to have him there with the kids, and since losing him and Fistric, there was no real toughness on the D. Petry or Belov are not gonna go protect our kids. This guy will.

Me likey.

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#53 Harry
January 31 2014, 10:28AM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

This trade just makes you wonder: why?

Playoffs are out of reach, he's a UFA who probably won't re-sign, and it maybe marginally improves our defense. What happened to no more quick fixes?

This trade ads very much needed toughness to Edms lineup. MacT is changing the leagues mentality towards playing Edm. Too many times we as fans here that nobody fears playing the Oilers and therefor are not concerned with consequences of taking runs at our top players.

Great job Mac.

Fire Lowe

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#54 Czar
January 31 2014, 10:39AM
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If you're still having issues with this trade or are trying to rekindle a love affair with Fistric read JW"s comments #13 and #14 a couple more times!!

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#55 Rick Stroppel
January 31 2014, 08:22PM
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ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PLAYER?

Anybody who wants a good laugh should read the article on Leafs Nation "Leafs Trade Fraser... ". The link is in the article. The article includes a very elaborate, stats-based analysis in support of the argument that Mark Fraser is BY FAR the worst defenseman on the Leafs and implies that he is possibly the worst defenseman in the NHL. They never wanted him! Just clearing out cap space and/or a roster spot! Good riddance!

Sound familiar?

We get the same thing in Edmonton. Every time the Oilers trade FOR a player he is described as "feisty...great potential...victim of numbers game...fills an important void" etc. When the Oilers trade a player AWAY he is described as "overrated...overpaid...was never going to be a regular...easy to play against despite his size...wasn't going to sign here anyway" etc.

I heard Bob Stauffer talking about Smid the day he was traded. Basically he said he had become soft, complacent, was afraid to block shots, etc. Strange. The night before he was "bleeding Oiler blue" or something like that. Oh well, those grapes are probably sour!

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#56 papler
January 31 2014, 09:20AM
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according to Capgeek, Mark Fraser is a UFA next year. So what exactly is the plan with this transaction?

freeing up an additional contract for some trades that are maybe going to happen?

Leafs are wondering why somebody even wanted Fraser in the first place, let alone give something back in the trade...

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#57 Serious Gord
January 31 2014, 09:51AM
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DisappointedFan wrote:

Giving up Fistric was one of his worst decisions (not that he's made many) because that was a player who brought the physicality every night and didn't let guys stand near his goalie. Let's hope Mark Fraser brings that same aspect to a severely lacking team.

Signing gagner.

Not buying out hemsky.

Not getting a better goalie than dubnyk.

And probably ten others if I cared to take the time...

MacT has made far more mistakes than has made positive moves.

And it shows in the teams standings.

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#58 Spydyr
January 31 2014, 11:31AM
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Czar wrote:

I'm with ya dude! Like him or not, Sutton kept the other team honest. Whether it was his size or elbows who cares, we missed that big time in our line up. @michael. 2 thumbs up!

Anyone that makes the Oilers harder to play against works for me.They have been the softest team in the NHL for far too long and it shows in their record.

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#59 Fresh Mess
January 31 2014, 11:48AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Okay, let's rein it in with the Mark Fistric love here. He wanted $2 million a year in Edmonton; the Oilers reportedly offered him a three-year/$4.5 million deal and he wouldn't take it.

Anaheim then signed him on the cheap for a year, and recently re-signed him to a deal for less money than the one Edmonton offered.

I simply can't get angry at the Oilers for refusing to pay Fistric $2 million a year. He added a nice element and I always had time for the player, but that's way too much money for the six/seven man on the depth chart.

I can't agree more or prop this enough. I am so sick of hearing about Fistric.

News flash people: HE DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY HERE.

Fistric is a marginal 6-7 dman, who badly priced himself out from playing here. He was willing to sign with a good team for half the money he demanded from Edmonton.

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#60 Joe Mamma
January 31 2014, 11:59AM
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DisappointedFan wrote:

So now he's playing on the Ducks, is 2nd on their team in hits and has played 28 games..you're telling me that wouldn't be something you'd pay for. He has 128 hits at 2nd on his team 40 hits above the next best player, and he'd be 1 hit behind Jeff Petry (team leader)...you'd be stupid not to pay somehow who goes and crushes people all day. We have more than enough non-offensive, non-defensive defensemen, they could have used one who could at least lay the body.

Mark Fraser has 66 hits in 19 games, hardly comparable. They overpaid Gagner, Horcoff, Hemsky, and on and on...overpaying a player who actually does his job is a huge plus. You get Matt Hendricks who is being paid because he's an energy player on the Oilers. I like it. He does his job and it's working for them.

Going from 29th to 24th = progression. Going from 24th to 29th = regression.

Moving up (progression) is a positive thing, so they are in the basement, they're atleast walking to the door. Moving down (regression) is a negative and shows that they like hiding in the dark and getting kicked around by their abusive older brothers (the rest of the league).

This a useless argument. $2mil a year for Fistric is a joke, and the Oil were right not to re-sign him. Period.

If they had agreed to that deal, for a guy who lays the body and NOTHING ELSE, we'd be burning MacT in effigy by now.

Fistric and Hendricks are not comparable situations. All Fistric does well is hit (usually at the cost of positioning). Hendricks hits, fights, takes draws, plays center or wing, kills penalties, provides leadership in the room, and wins battles at both ends of the ice. He's been a nice addition, and is worth his contract to this team. For #150K LESS than Fistric wanted.

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#62 james_dean
January 31 2014, 12:26PM
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Serious gord is an idiot.

boot this douche from this great site

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#63 freelancer
January 31 2014, 09:25AM
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Nothing special, nothing awful. Like the addition of size but also terrified that MacT is going to sit back and say "well we've successfully changed our blueline."

Find it intriguing that he is a UFA after this season. First Scrivens, now this. Seems like these are players they've had their eye on, and are signing them now to avoid the bidding war come free agency. Could prove to be brilliant or a disaster depending if they re-sign.

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#64 YEGFan
January 31 2014, 09:37AM
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This gets a -2 from me. We'll see if I'm wrong.

Hartikainen had upside. Mark Fraser has downside.

http://theleafsnation.com/2013/12/13/a-note-on-mark-fraser

People will forget about this move in a month (when Mark Fraser drags Belov, Potter, Larsen, and N Schultz down like a boat anchor tied to an already sinking ship) and continue complaining that the Oilers have no size. MacT will add another few terrible players, simply because of their height and weight, over the summer, they will drag the team down and be flushed out of the NHL, and clueless fans will continue to complain the Oilers are too small and that they need to add big players. Fans will continue to not notice that a huge majority of the team's mistakes over the past years has been adding big players with no skill, and coaching will continue to be blamed for not somehow turning these awful over sized people into NHL talents through sheer coaching will.

The quest for big has been going on for a long time. It's failing and it's killing the Oilers.

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#65 Fresh Mess
January 31 2014, 11:34AM
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He is worth a shot. If he works he will bring something sorely lacking. If he doesn't work out, they gave up nothing to get him and his contract expires this summer.

Good move by Mactavish. Second solid trade in a row.

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#66 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 31 2014, 01:32PM
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MaxPower417 wrote:

From a Leafs fan: I'm sorry Edmonton. You don't deserve this.

Thank you for your concern Leafs Fan.....I know you'll enjoy Hartlessikainen. He's just what the Leafs need.

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#67 pkam
January 31 2014, 02:07PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Flawed logic on your part. The strategic aspect of buying out hemsky should not be measured by the tangible tactical result.

Not having ample cap room during the season is a big - strategic - mistake.

MacT has made 2 salary dump trades. One is Horcoff to the Stars. One is Perron from the Blues. If MacT could acquire Perron without buying out Hemsky, why must we?

We are about middle in salary when the season started. Can you tell me how many teams below us in salary stole a player from a team who needed to dump salary?

Can you tell me how many team above us in salary got frozen in a trade due to the cap problem?

You keep saying we can have the cap space to get some players from the Flyers if we have bought out Hemsky. There are at least 15 teams below us in salary. Which team got a player from Flyers?

Perhaps you can tell us what other salary dump trades made by any other teams, not just the Flyers, that we could have made, cause I am not aware of any. Since you are so sure that not buying out Hemsky is a big mistake, why not support your argument with some facts, instead of BS.

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#68 YEGFan
January 31 2014, 09:46AM
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oilabroad wrote:

I think the Fistric signing made him look like a tool. The best team in the league took a player we threw away and signed him to a 3 year extension... I think most Oiler fans wanted him signed but again MacT had his eye on the prize and missed out on the housekeeping he needed to take care of at home. While I am venting, if we are going to go after all of a teams castoffs, why not a good team??

Fistric was not great for us. He could not carry our already weak D and needed time to grow and learn how to do things other than ignore his assignments and go for a big hit. He needed to be sheltered by stronger defensemen like he is in Anaheim. He has some useful skills, but he is not what the Oilers need and that was obvious. The Oilers are in desperate need of top end defensive talent, not 6-7 guys who can fill a niche role on a cup contender.

I am pretty sure he sat around unsigned for a long time last summer. There was no "missed... housekeeping." He proved himself to not be what the Oilers needed to prioritize. His current usefulness would probably not have materialized if he was still an Oiler.

He also was frequently a healthy scratch while here. I don't buy that the decline from last year to this year has anything to do with him.

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#69 Walter Sobchak
January 31 2014, 10:17AM
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Well, the Oilers might as well just rename the team the Marlies!

Eakins has to be pleased.

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#70 Czar
January 31 2014, 10:54AM
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@DisappointedFan

Game 57 is better than not at all.

I liked what Fistric brought to the line up but he sure as heck wouldn't have made much of a difference in the standings. He turned down the Oilers offer so he wasn't an option anyway.

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#71 Czar
January 31 2014, 12:15PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Anyone that makes the Oilers harder to play against works for me.They have been the softest team in the NHL for far too long and it shows in their record.

I agree 100%! Look at the infuence Gadzic and Hendricks have had so far, at least the rest of the team are bringing their balls to the games now.

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#72 Lochenzo
January 31 2014, 12:16PM
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@ Serious Gord

I don't know why you are so hard up for using the last compliance buyout on Hemsky. If you want to believe Mark Spector, Hemsky is worth at least a 3rd round pick. I think that Hemmer is worth more than that. I would only use the compliance buyout on guys that you couldn't even give away.

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#73 Ed in Edmonton
January 31 2014, 12:37PM
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Oil glob wrote:

Moving the franchise forward? From boys on the bus cult following to I want to be part of wanker eeeeeekins boys club cult!!!

Replacing NHL players with marlies wanna be close to Eakins is not a path forward.

This guy iis a clown, just like Eakins system of methodical defense

I must have missed something. I thought the Oil traded Hartski and Abney. Were there some NHL players the there somewhere as well?

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#74 Johnnydapunk
January 31 2014, 03:44PM
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I'm not gonna start any fires with anyone here, but I think it's not a bad trade. What he brings is some size, he is a defensive defenceman, and a bit of grit which does help the Oil a lot. What he also has is 2 other things which aren't as easy to always get. He has a fire in his belly to prove something, he sees this as a chance to get his career on track with the Oil (that's a key) and he is loyal to Eakins so if he turns out alright, I don't think he will be that pricey to resign.

Whilst this isn't a three way deal to get Subban and Weber for a 4th round pick, Will Acton and Grebs, it's still a not bad trade. It addresses a tiny bit of what the Oil need so I am fine with that.

I'm sure some will disagree, but MacT is not doing half bad with what he has got. He is trying to make deals and it seems like it takes a noticeable event for MacT to pull the trigger, when Gagner got his face broken, he signed Big Mac and when he got hurt, he found Gazdic, when Dubnyk pooped the bed too many times, he signed the Bryz, when Barbs did the same, he got rid of him, and when Bryz wasn't the answer, he went for Scrivens.

MacT is trying, and it seems like he is putting in an effort in, 8 out of 20 trades have involved the Oil,this season, that's an effort. Fair play for trying.

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#75 Bucknuck
January 31 2014, 04:04PM
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Quit being mean and nasty to each other. We are all fans on the loser bus together, but that doesn't mean we all have to act like losers. Agree or disagree with the trade, and discuss the GM who made the trade, and discuss the similar players we sent packing. But drop the nasty please.

The worst part about the Oilers losing has been the way the fans are turning into a pack of rabid dogs and ripping everything Oiler, even the good stuff, and then ripping on every fan who dares to say something good about the team.

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#76 papler
January 31 2014, 09:25AM
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Good point about Fistric. It's almost as MacT read the news about Fistric's new contract and then thought "damn, I want one of those too". Enter Mark Fraser.

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#77 Taylor Gang
January 31 2014, 09:51AM
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This trade just makes you wonder: why?

Playoffs are out of reach, he's a UFA who probably won't re-sign, and it maybe marginally improves our defense. What happened to no more quick fixes?

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#78 TayLordBalls
January 31 2014, 09:59AM
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another brick in the wall

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#79 Czar
January 31 2014, 11:28AM
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@Rocknrolla

I'm with ya dude! Like him or not, Sutton kept the other team honest. Whether it was his size or elbows who cares, we missed that big time in our line up. @michael. 2 thumbs up!

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#80 NJ
January 31 2014, 01:45PM
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2 things: kudos to JW who is still replying 3 pages into posts.

Re: Fedun. Lots of us would love to see the feel good story of last couple years play more in Oil blue and maybe him and Fraser make a great 5-6 pair some day. If not, we'll still watch him play on another NHL team. That is a fact.

Why? Because he's been something to cheer for when we've had nothing else to cheer for. (Until the sharks got Scivened that is)

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#81 Zarny
January 31 2014, 02:14PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Flawed logic on your part. The strategic aspect of buying out hemsky should not be measured by the tangible tactical result.

Not having ample cap room during the season is a big - strategic - mistake.

Give it up.

Not buying out Hemsky didn't impede MacT from making any trades.

The Oilers had the cap room to make a trade with a team like Phi at the beginning of the season if Phi was actually going to pull the trigger.

They had ample cap space to go sign Bryzgalov.

There was no strategic aspect to buying out Hemsky.

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#82 MaxPower417
January 31 2014, 10:46AM
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From a Leafs fan: I'm sorry Edmonton. You don't deserve this.

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#84 Spydyr
January 31 2014, 12:40PM
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Czar wrote:

I agree 100%! Look at the infuence Gadzic and Hendricks have had so far, at least the rest of the team are bringing their balls to the games now.

At first I did not like the team picking up Hendricks .Due to his contract and age. Now having watched him play here I stand corrected.He brings a positive energy on the ice,bench and although we cannot see I'm guessing the dressing room too.Along with his work effort and take no crap attitude Mac-T appears to have made a good move here.

He has addressed a need on the team and filled it.Let us hope he can do the same with some bigger needs at the deadline and this summer.

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#85 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 31 2014, 05:30PM
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DisappointedFan wrote:

See my major problem with this trade is that it is taking the spot of guys who could "try-out" for next year. (Fedun/Klefbom/Gernat)Unless MacT is doing this because he doesn't want to see them and would rather they take the Barons to a "successful" playoff run.

Fair point DF....but it is entirely possible that Nick Schultz, Potter, and maybe even Belov get moved at the deadline....leaving room for call ups of young guys...and a guy like Fraser to stick up for them. Let's hope anyway.

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#86 oilabroad
January 31 2014, 09:56AM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

This trade just makes you wonder: why?

Playoffs are out of reach, he's a UFA who probably won't re-sign, and it maybe marginally improves our defense. What happened to no more quick fixes?

I think they are shipping out some bodies soon and he doesn't want to bring up a young one to fill the space... probably the right thing to do

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#87 MessyEH
January 31 2014, 11:43AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Signing gagner.

Not buying out hemsky.

Not getting a better goalie than dubnyk.

And probably ten others if I cared to take the time...

MacT has made far more mistakes than has made positive moves.

And it shows in the teams standings.

I don't think Hemsky is so bad, that the Oilers get better by not playing him.In fact Hemsky has been defensively solid this year.

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#88 Spydyr
January 31 2014, 05:41PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

"Joe Mamma" and "me": I've deleted most of the comments in the back-and-forth internet purse fight you've been treating everybody to.

Post any more of it and an IP ban is next.

Thanks, for the next person reading the comments.

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#89 vetinari
January 31 2014, 06:36PM
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toprightcorner wrote:

I knew Edmonton had Hartis rights but didnt know he took up a contract spot as well, that itself is good news.

It was the other guy who took up the roster space... Harti's rights don't count against the 50 man contract list. We also unloaded a ECHL fighter who didn't likely have a chance to ever see the NHL in the process.

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#90 Bloodsweatandoil
January 31 2014, 10:15AM
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Good move.....more size and somebody who doesn't take any sh$t from opponents.

Who knows what the future brings for him, but in the meantime, I will gladly play him over three guys currently on the roster.

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#91 Serious Gord
January 31 2014, 12:01PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

They had tons of room that they didn't use because they were scared of running into rookie bonuses.

Thus they didn't have tons of room.

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#92 rickithebear
January 31 2014, 01:29PM
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JW: Fraser is a box protection Dman. The league average success rate of shots: 0-10 ft 17-18% are goals 10-20 ft 23-24% are goals 20-30 ft 8-9% >30 ft 3-4% Box dmen protect 20 ft in. 20-30 ft is a shared responsibility D and Fwds > 30 ft is about forwrds.

Strong defenceses like BOS, LA have great box protection D who limit the shots inside 20 ft to 30% or less. They have physical and lane dominate Dmen who reduce the success rate of the shots inside 20ft.(the box)

An elite Dman like Chara allows 14% or less success rate for shots inside 20 ft plus there are less than 30% shots from inside 20 ft.

Mark Fraser faces 3rd comp and shows signs of an elite box protection Dman. he gives up less than 14% success rate for shots inside 20 ft. he has an inside 20ft shot rate of 28%.

As a result in his time in NJ and 1st year in TOR he was a top 30 EVGA Dman. Yes against 3rd comp. but that gives flexibilty to the top pairs to be less elite on EVGA.

He was top 30 both years he played PK on D.

Mark Fistric and potter were the best EVGA D pair in the game.1.57EVGA/60 we tried to sign fistric to a 3 yr 1.25M contract. Anahiem got him he is a 1.9 GA/60 Dman. they extended him to a 3 year contract.

Fistric left and our 3rd pair is 3.17 Ga/60 .74g/gm versus .44g /gm last year.

.30 increase in team GA.

fraser 2 years nj and first in TOR 1.67EVGA/60; 1.65EVGA/60; 2.33 EVGA/60

we sure could use that.

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#93 A-Mc
January 31 2014, 02:09PM
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@Will

If Yandle was ever an option for the Oilers, i'd love to have him. He's good enough for my hockey drafts so he's good enough for the Oilers!

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#94 Shredder
January 31 2014, 02:10PM
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gcw_rocks wrote:

Hendricks, Gazdic, and Fraser are all hard to play against?

Three of those guys are replacement level players, two of which can barely play hockey and one who can't. The are hard to play against how? The dirty looks they give all the players who skate around them?

Ference is fast approaching the time where d-men of his type fall off a cliff, but he is under contract for 3 more years with a NMC.

I find your lack of faith disturbing...pray I don't alter the deal further.

Seriously though, you don't like his moves? I have 2 words for you: BEN SCRIVENS!

Go ahead, say "it was only one game" - name a goalie who's done that for the Oilers in the last few years?

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#95 Wonger
January 31 2014, 03:18PM
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gcw_rocks wrote:

Hendricks, Gazdic, and Fraser are all hard to play against?

Three of those guys are replacement level players, two of which can barely play hockey and one who can't. The are hard to play against how? The dirty looks they give all the players who skate around them?

Ference is fast approaching the time where d-men of his type fall off a cliff, but he is under contract for 3 more years with a NMC.

I agree with Bucknuck.... keep going MACT!!!!!! FRASER is TOUGH and can go with ANYONE......!!!!!Beautiful!!!!!!Love you MACT...not like that.... as a GM!!!!!Keep bringing in these TOUGH SOBS and LEADERS!!!!!!!Wooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#96 Walter Sobchak
January 31 2014, 04:40PM
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So correct me if I'm wrong here.

MacT lets Fistric walk, then re-aquires a worse version of him in exchange for the rights to Hartikainen + for 25 or so games?

This is considered ok?

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#97 Arius Mumin
January 31 2014, 08:19PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Fair point DF....but it is entirely possible that Nick Schultz, Potter, and maybe even Belov get moved at the deadline....leaving room for call ups of young guys...and a guy like Fraser to stick up for them. Let's hope anyway.

I don't believe the Oilers will trade Belov. He will start next season as an Oiler, there is no reason to get rid of him-and there is no reason not to give him more time.

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#98 michael
January 31 2014, 11:01AM
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Czar wrote:

The Oilers got a D-man who's willing to drop the mitts for spare parts, what's not to like?

Oiler's get tougher and still everyone complains? Wait until he bitch slaps a Canuck or Flame! Or he steps in when someone's taking liberties with one of the kids,maybe then you might come around.

Exactly my thought. Sure I want to see Klefbom play. Or Fedun. But they are better off in OKC right now than in Edmonton. We'll see what deadwood/defencemen MacT can unload/rid himself of at the trade deadline and then make a decision as to who should be recalled.

Till then Eakins has another option that he can use in games when he needs more beef than chicken in the lineup. That you Harry Potter. Remember Philly last season and turning down Hartnell for a dance.

I do not expect J.Shultz to drop the gloves and ruin that Covergirl face. But sure as heck I expected Belov to bring more grit this year than he has shown. Marincin is still a kid. He is playing well and for what he is I am delighted with the results. N.Shultz is a disaster. Larsen is so soft. Petry. Lots of skill but he scares not one single opponent with his play.Ferenve brings a complete game and were he 3 inches taller and 30 lbs heavier he would be ideal. For what he brings though I have no qualms with his game.

I would like the Oilers to find another grit guy for their 4th line. JJ just does not bring that dimension to hs game. He brings size and skill. But grit? I don't see that as part of his game and that is why he is a tweener.

Good job MacT

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#99 michael
January 31 2014, 12:37PM
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Noooo!!! wrote:

I sure hope you are very, very wrong about Smyth being resigned at ANY cost.Please,please tell me you are going to be wrong.

I really don't think I am wrong.I think Smyth has accepted his role on this team. A fourth line guy who gets PP time.

Last year and earlier this season Smyth was playing out of place. He initially was playing with Hall at center along with Hemsky. What a disaster.

You look at effective Smyth has been on the 4th line and you can see why I am saying he'll be back.His ice time is way down. He gets some Pp time. He along with Gazdic and JJ have been effective.

He is a bridge for the younger players to current management. His work ethic is a good example to them also.I really think his role currently on the 4th line is exactly what it should be.

MacT signs him but for less cash.

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#100 Craig MacTambeloweni
January 31 2014, 01:22PM
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I like this trade, Mac T got us another guy who can punch faces and do it for cheap. We just became a little harder to play against

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