Oilers acquire Mark Fraser from Toronto

Jonathan Willis
January 31 2014 09:06AM

TSN's Darren Dreger reports that the Oilers have added some size to their blue line, adding Mark Fraser from Toronto.

What The Oilers Sent Away

The players going the other way in the deal were both outside of the organization's plans, so the cost on this isn't especially dear.

Teemu Hartikainen is having a pretty good season in Russia and has to be the guy the Leafs were interested in on this deal. He's a big winger with some skill who couldn't do much in 23 NHL games last season with the Oilers; he wasn't interested in staying in the organization on a two-way deal and so he went off to Russia. I've been told down the line that this isn't a player that Edmonton really had plans for, but that doesn't mean he might not break out with the Leafs. 

Cameron Abney, the other guy in the trade, has negative value; he's an ECHL enforcer taking up a spot on Edmonton's 50-man list. In the Oilers' organization he was passed as a player by Erick Lizon (currently with the CHL's Wichita Thunder). 

What the Oilers Added

Everybody hoping Edmonton would add a big, physical defenceman for the third pair got their wish today.

Fraser is listed at 6'4", 220 pounds. He has had three fights in the NHL this season; last year he had nine fights in the majors and eight in the AHL. He's a stay-at-home defenceman who plays a throwback style; the new Theo Peckham on Edmonton's blue line. 

As for what he is as a player? Theo Peckham isn't far-off as a comparison there, either. Fraser has struggled badly this year, with regular partners Paul Ranger and Morgan Rielly both faring better without him than with him. Of interest, though, is the way he and Cody Franson played together last season, and the way his regular partners in New Jersey (primarily Andy Greene and Johnny Oduya) played with and without him. He has had a measure of success in the NHL before, even if he isn't enjoying that this season.

For the time being the pending unrestricted free agent can provide the Oilers with physical play in the six/seven slot and provide the Oilers with a warm body if they choose to move other free agents like Anton Belov or Nick Schultz or Corey Potterat the deadline. He has familiarity with Dallas Eakins from time spent with the Marlies, so he should slot in to the Oilers system with relative ease, and his skillset is a nice fit alongside any of Potter, Philip Larsen or Taylor Fedun on that bottom pair.

This is a small trade, but it adds a dimension the Oilers were lacking at the cost of players the team didn't really care about anyway. The player with the most potential to be an NHL difference-maker went to Toronto, but Hartikainen wasn't going to be that guy in Edmonton and the trade market for 'tweeners who want one-way deals isn't as robust as it could be. 

Update - via @Steve_Dangle of Leafs Nation comes this Hockey Night in Canada segment on Fraser:

Additionally, Jeff Veillette - who covered Fraser in person when Fraser played for the AHL's Toronto Marlies - wrote a piece on the trade for Leafs Nation.

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#1 Serious Gord
January 31 2014, 09:51AM
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DisappointedFan wrote:

Giving up Fistric was one of his worst decisions (not that he's made many) because that was a player who brought the physicality every night and didn't let guys stand near his goalie. Let's hope Mark Fraser brings that same aspect to a severely lacking team.

Signing gagner.

Not buying out hemsky.

Not getting a better goalie than dubnyk.

And probably ten others if I cared to take the time...

MacT has made far more mistakes than has made positive moves.

And it shows in the teams standings.

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#2 Zamboni Driver
January 31 2014, 10:28AM
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The trashes here are more hilarious than anything.

Blind faithers think that this is meaningful.

Trading nothing and less than nothing for another big slow cement head who can't play a lick....

The bridge to nowhere is going just great MacT.

Have your joy that your heroic braintrust is out there working hard to "Improve" things.

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#3 Serious Gord
January 31 2014, 11:03AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Not buying out Hemsky? You're kidding, right?

As I have written before, there is only one buyout remaining under this cba. As the most critical cap crunch was this year, exercising the buyout this last summer would have been far more beneficial than using it this coming summer. That freed up salary and roster spot could have been used to pick up a long-term solution from a cap-strapped team (Philadelphia perhaps). Hemsky was on MacT's disposal list. Because he couldn't trade/deal him away he should have done the next best thing and bought him out.

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#4 Serious Gord
January 31 2014, 09:47AM
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We now go from FOKs being the overarching and only narrative to adding a new acronym FOE.

Being a friend of Eakins seems to be handy on ones CV.

Why don't they just fire the scouting staff. They seem to have little usefulness if connections/friendship with management trumps merit.

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#5 papler
January 31 2014, 09:20AM
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according to Capgeek, Mark Fraser is a UFA next year. So what exactly is the plan with this transaction?

freeing up an additional contract for some trades that are maybe going to happen?

Leafs are wondering why somebody even wanted Fraser in the first place, let alone give something back in the trade...

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#6 YEGFan
January 31 2014, 09:37AM
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This gets a -2 from me. We'll see if I'm wrong.

Hartikainen had upside. Mark Fraser has downside.

http://theleafsnation.com/2013/12/13/a-note-on-mark-fraser

People will forget about this move in a month (when Mark Fraser drags Belov, Potter, Larsen, and N Schultz down like a boat anchor tied to an already sinking ship) and continue complaining that the Oilers have no size. MacT will add another few terrible players, simply because of their height and weight, over the summer, they will drag the team down and be flushed out of the NHL, and clueless fans will continue to complain the Oilers are too small and that they need to add big players. Fans will continue to not notice that a huge majority of the team's mistakes over the past years has been adding big players with no skill, and coaching will continue to be blamed for not somehow turning these awful over sized people into NHL talents through sheer coaching will.

The quest for big has been going on for a long time. It's failing and it's killing the Oilers.

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#7 gcw_rocks
January 31 2014, 11:02AM
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What a joke. Yes, this is exactly what the team needs - more bottom pairing defencemen. Because Belov, Grebs, Larsen, Schultz Sr., Schultz Jr., Fedun and Klefbom aren't enough.

If I am Fedun, I am thinking "WTF?" I doubt we see Fedun in Edmonton for any material amount of time after this trade, if at all.

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#8 Taylor Gang
January 31 2014, 09:51AM
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This trade just makes you wonder: why?

Playoffs are out of reach, he's a UFA who probably won't re-sign, and it maybe marginally improves our defense. What happened to no more quick fixes?

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#9 Zamboni Driver
January 31 2014, 09:33AM
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Good god.

See? Look at all the trades and stuff we're making. SO many changes!

SO MANY CHANGES

I've been saying for years, the big problem has always been 7-8 D, backup goalies and 4th line forwards.

WHAT ABOUT POTTER??!!What will become of Corey Potter?!

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#10 northof51
January 31 2014, 09:54AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Okay, let's rein it in with the Mark Fistric love here. He wanted $2 million a year in Edmonton; the Oilers reportedly offered him a three-year/$4.5 million deal and he wouldn't take it.

Anaheim then signed him on the cheap for a year, and recently re-signed him to a deal for less money than the one Edmonton offered.

I simply can't get angry at the Oilers for refusing to pay Fistric $2 million a year. He added a nice element and I always had time for the player, but that's way too much money for the six/seven man on the depth chart.

First time I can ever recall disagreeing with you, Willis...

Put this deal into perspective and the Oilers could have Fistric and some other really cheap player to replace what's his name from Nashville. We need way more help anywhere on D than we do in our Bottom 6.

The Oilers are a better team with Fistric and a cheaper 3/4 LW crasher than they are with Fraser and Hendricks, all for a similar cash commitment. And you still have a currently 32 year old Hendricks on the payroll through 2017.

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#11 DAVE
January 31 2014, 10:13AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

And while we're at it: if anything, the fact that the Oilers could add a cheaper Fraser for basically nothing graphically demonstrates how silly they would have been to give Fistric $2 million/year.

It would'nt have been basically nothing, if MacT hadn't let Hartikainan get away and signed him to one way deal instead of Joenseu.

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#12 DisappointedFan
January 31 2014, 10:46AM
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Czar wrote:

If you're still having issues with this trade or are trying to rekindle a love affair with Fistric read JW"s comments #13 and #14 a couple more times!!

Okay, as nice as it all sounds. Having Fistric from game one would have been miles better than having Mark Fraser at game 57. Regardless of cap hit, the Oilers took a huge standings hit by not having someone who can finish checks and play hockey. Grebeshkov, didn't work. Corey Potter, didn't work. Anton Belov, didn't work. Andrew Ference, is doing what he was brought to do but doesn't punish players with his checks.

He can tell me his cap hit was too high all you want on paper, but when he played he brought physicality that the Oilers did not have for the last 56 games.

Maybe he's paid a bit high...what else is new for the Oilers...they over pay players to carry the pucks to the ice for morning skate that do nothing else.

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#13 Serious Gord
January 31 2014, 11:45AM
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Hemmercules wrote:

The only reason you buy out Hemmer in that situation is if you have a player as good or better coming in. They didn't have that obviously. Sure they could have just bought him out and hoped they could find another equal player somewhere between the start of the season and the trade deadline but I guess that wasnt a gamble they wanted to take.

Now they can maybe get something for him at the deadline rather than pay him millions to walk away.

None other than bill belechik has said that the most important thing in a cap league to have is plenty of cap room during the season. Having it enables one to fill holes due to injury or other unforeseen things but also to have the space to pick up players from other teams under cap space pressure - like Philly was early this season.

Having lots of cap space would have given the oil much more options. Buying out hemsky didn't require another move to be done - it should have been done in order to be ready to take advantage of future opportunities.

Part of the reason why all of MacT's in-season deals have been such small ball is because he lacks the cap room roster space to make a big ones.

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#14 Rama Lama
January 31 2014, 12:03PM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

I can't agree more or prop this enough. I am so sick of hearing about Fistric.

News flash people: HE DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY HERE.

Fistric is a marginal 6-7 dman, who badly priced himself out from playing here. He was willing to sign with a good team for half the money he demanded from Edmonton.

No he would have signed here but at the time we were obsessed with skill and he knew that.

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#15 Josh Oiler
January 31 2014, 08:46PM
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I HATE TO TELL EVERYONE THAT I TOLD YOU SO???

BUT:

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

Craig "The Brain" MACTAVISH did it again. A freakin genius move!!! Once again!!!

MacT is active and is bringing in the freaking BIGTIME MASHERS in the NHL!!!!

I pity any who this this or the Hendricks deal is a bad deal!!

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#16 Shredder
January 31 2014, 10:26AM
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Bold

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#17 Walter Sobchak
January 31 2014, 10:17AM
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Well, the Oilers might as well just rename the team the Marlies!

Eakins has to be pleased.

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#18 Oil glob
January 31 2014, 12:14PM
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Moving the franchise forward? From boys on the bus cult following to I want to be part of wanker eeeeeekins boys club cult!!!

Replacing NHL players with marlies wanna be close to Eakins is not a path forward.

This guy iis a clown, just like Eakins system of methodical defense

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#19 oilabroad
January 31 2014, 09:34AM
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I think the Fistric signing made him look like a tool. The best team in the league took a player we threw away and signed him to a 3 year extension... I think most Oiler fans wanted him signed but again MacT had his eye on the prize and missed out on the housekeeping he needed to take care of at home. While I am venting, if we are going to go after all of a teams castoffs, why not a good team??

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#20 oilabroad
January 31 2014, 09:43AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Okay, let's rein it in with the Mark Fistric love here. He wanted $2 million a year in Edmonton; the Oilers reportedly offered him a three-year/$4.5 million deal and he wouldn't take it.

Anaheim then signed him on the cheap for a year, and recently re-signed him to a deal for less money than the one Edmonton offered.

I simply can't get angry at the Oilers for refusing to pay Fistric $2 million a year. He added a nice element and I always had time for the player, but that's way too much money for the six/seven man on the depth chart.

JW I didn't think they were that far apart at the time... still pissed off, not sure why

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#21 Serious Gord
January 31 2014, 01:46PM
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A-Mc wrote:

If it is unknown how it would have affected the team by buying out Hemsky, then by that same logic you can't possibly conclude that it was a bad move to NOT buy him out; so please drop it.

You've said your piece. We've all read it in many of your posts prior to the ones in this article. There is no reason to continually repeat yourself.

Flawed logic on your part. The strategic aspect of buying out hemsky should not be measured by the tangible tactical result.

Not having ample cap room during the season is a big - strategic - mistake.

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#22 Josh Oiler
January 31 2014, 09:02PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE!

Please forgive me! I woke up the real "Josh Oiler"!

I'm flattered as you should be as well as I'm not monetarily charging for my presence or wide knowledge of hockey an the Oilers.

Your Welcome!

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#23 Serious Gord
January 31 2014, 12:01PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

They had tons of room that they didn't use because they were scared of running into rookie bonuses.

Thus they didn't have tons of room.

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#24 Walter Sobchak
January 31 2014, 04:40PM
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So correct me if I'm wrong here.

MacT lets Fistric walk, then re-aquires a worse version of him in exchange for the rights to Hartikainen + for 25 or so games?

This is considered ok?

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#25 gcw_rocks
January 31 2014, 02:05PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

I agree with the notion that the Oilers need to add a top pairing Defenseman. Until they do, they will be on the outside looking in.

That said, i do like the direction MacT has been heading with his personnel moves. Perron, Hendricks, Gazdic, Fraser, Ference, and Gordon are all hard to play against.

The experiments are all on one year deals: Grebby, Belov, Scrivens and Bryzgalov. If any of them work out it's a bonus, if not they are gone.

I've been impressed.

Hendricks, Gazdic, and Fraser are all hard to play against?

Three of those guys are replacement level players, two of which can barely play hockey and one who can't. The are hard to play against how? The dirty looks they give all the players who skate around them?

Ference is fast approaching the time where d-men of his type fall off a cliff, but he is under contract for 3 more years with a NMC.

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#26 MaxPower417
January 31 2014, 10:46AM
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From a Leafs fan: I'm sorry Edmonton. You don't deserve this.

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#27 YEGFan
January 31 2014, 11:32AM
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Rocknrolla wrote:

I agree, not having a tough d-man on the ice has hurt us. The nice thing about tough D is that they are on the ice while the kids are out there.

How often is Gazdic out with Hall or Yak?

I remember saying when we had Andy Sutton that it was nice to have him there with the kids, and since losing him and Fistric, there was no real toughness on the D. Petry or Belov are not gonna go protect our kids. This guy will.

Me likey.

No, he won't. "Protection" is a myth. No tough guy on any other team is scared of other tough guys. They all skate around "doing their jobs" by not being afraid of anyone else. They do not get intimidated by each other and they are all more than happy to lay a big hit on a star if they think they can get away with it and avoid a huge suspension and loss of income. Fortunately, they don't go out on the ice with the stars frequently because they get lit up so badly that the possible benefit of hitting a star is out weighed by number of goals it costs the team.

Putting assets and energy into acquiring tough or gritty players who aren't skilled is what is hurting this team most. The team is at the bottom of the league, get it through your head, no amount of tinkering with the 4th line or the bottom defense pairing is going to have any meaningful effect on this team's position in the standings.

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#28 DAVE
January 31 2014, 08:00PM
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I for one would have like to see Pitlick and Harti in the top 9 next year at the beginning of the season. WHY IN THE WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS is MacT loading up on AHL D, I know MacT. quit the booze, but, Fraser is not a regular roster player at 28, so why make this trade in the first place.

This trade has no relavance on this season, or any past this one, except unless Harti goes to T.O. and becomes a energy player on the third line, and want's to hurt anybody wearing a oiler's jersey.

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#29 Josh Oiler
January 31 2014, 08:57PM
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As the NHLs #1 underground hockey insider:

I say it's all about beating up the other team. You think a 3 game win streak was a fluke???? The boys are pushing and fighting back!! Ryan Jones, Matt Hendricks, Luke GADZIC..

C'mon boys and girls... Hockey isn't rocket science. You have to have scoring but you also gotta have some grit..

We play on smaller ice surface. We have to grin gout pucks and push off other players for space!!! Arcobello ain't gonna push his way through Milan Lucic or Ryan Kesler.

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#30 Taylor Gang
January 31 2014, 12:48PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Less than the combination of Ales Hemsky and Nick Schultz. The Oilers have the room to add him.

Nick Schultz is worth a million less than what he's paid and Hemsky is worth about 2.5 million as well. You're comparing two overpaid players to one.

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#32 DisappointedFan
January 31 2014, 11:13AM
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Zarny wrote:

Actually if you're Fedun, you're thinking "great maybe Fraser will be able to knock ginormous centers like Getzlaf and Thornton off the puck...because I certainly can't do it."

Fedun wants to play in the NHL not cheer on guys who are taking his place and making his money. If you think anything otherwise you're lying to yourself.

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#33 Shaner
January 31 2014, 11:38PM
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I think this comment sums it up best.......oh how I miss these days!

Thank you rheumatoid arthritis--I am on Twitter.I have only used it a few times and am still new,i cant get on it now as I forgot my password and havent reset it yet,but I am learning and will do that soon.I dont really know how it all works yet.I set it up during the playoffs last year to acess a specific team ASAP but didnt really use the account after that I think I made 4 tweets.I am not a Tweeter by nature.I am nervous using it because I am not sure exactly who the tweets go to --all I know is I get tons of Twitter stuff in my e-mail--time to sharpen up I guess.

I dont really prefer a social media format as I dont play well with others who arent into winning 100% and unless I start a blog I need to use proper forum manners which I find to confining when I am trying to problem solve.I am on ATS "moma2s NewAge Hockey System" its not an organised blog but its a NHS thread you can respond on.Right now its pretty much a maze of random posts,all NHS related,but not in chronological order at all.I was a player/coach through high school-coached 3 teams and played on one myself so I have some very basic competative tactics and philosophys to share,not much but some.It seems in many cases the tactics and ideas fit really well into a hockey mindset.But anything new is always denied until it proves itself to be superior to the old.To be quite honest I am used to competing and in that environment I am in control and a constant communicator and very verbally involved,I was a quiet leader in practises and a loud verbal one in competition,as a result I am used to people just trusting me based on results they are personally witnessing that prevent them from questioning me and my tactics.It saves tons of time when you can just do it and show someone.I am very ill-prepared to handle the constant questions and debates from people that i am forced to accept when I cant just go out and do it as an answer to their inquiries or simply have them comply first and experience the results and ask questions later??So I end up writing huge volumes of text because if i was on the ice I would be considering all of these things--so how can I justifiably leave anything out if I am playing to win or teaching to win???

90% of the time the questions are the same from people,the sticking points are the same and it is soooo frustrating because hockey is so well coached from such a young age that players are indoctrinated and really handcuffed into conforming to convention and tradition or they just dont ever hit the ice.And my lack of basic hockey knowledge drives people batty especially when after two thousand words they finally get it--they couldnt define the dynamic situations but they had all of the data all along--which I wasnt getting,ha ha ha.I think and communicate in dynamic terms always,I cant change that anymore than I could throw any type of game on purpose,its just not possible.

If a G.M just told a team I was a consultant with carte-blanche and didnt give any more dynamic data other than I was untouchable as per managment then Players would listen and learn new dynamic tactics faster than in other sports because then that deep and complete coaching system would be working in my favor even if some of what i said was counter to conventional thinking.But if there is even the slightest chance that conventional thinking and tradition can be used to trump or impede me ,all is lost because those steel trap hockey minds will instinctively revert to their lifetime of teaching.I personally would have paid attention as a competitor to the freaking janitor just out of curiosity and the understanding that critical data can come from literally anywhere. Social forums are a death-trap for my methods.But alas I need the hockey brains because I have no technical baseline as a non-player--just a dynamic baseline from being a winner at many other sports.I NEED the people who fight new ideas so i can learn what they are thinking and seeing dynamicly.The problem starts after we communicate and I begin to introduce non-traditional dynamic actions,because all hockey players do is demand results or shut down,they are seriously not even willing to explore anything that isnt 100% results based,they are like storm-troopers.So I hit and run,post and duck,make a point and retreat to let the smoke clear--and do it again.Its the long way but without the basic hockey knowledgebase to properly do a blog I need hockey peoples perspectives controversy or not.

I love coming here because of the direct and short manner in which hockey people make their points and counterpoints based in large on each ones paralell personel experience,I learn a tremendous amount from them.I know that even a pee-wee player outguns me here but it is a learning environment for me not them,I know I am the one asking strange questions and presenting strange ideas to them.But I also know that places like this are the BEST resource if you are trying to learn about the game and how it works aside from just watching games on TV. Hope to see you on the moma2 thread when I straighten out Twitter I will post the name there.But I am here the most where I can learn the most.

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#34 Walter White
January 31 2014, 11:14AM
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meh... wrote:

Not earth shattering but a decent move. Replace a soft 6-7 defenceman with a meaner 6-7 defenceman. You want more size and grit, you're getting more size and grit.

You want Bobby Orr for Hemsky and a 3rd rounder you're dreaming...

The Oilers have a third rounder to trade??? I thought they have traded their round 2 to 5 picks away; I guess they don't need any more talent....

I am afraid the Fraser aquisition will put the hard earned 59 shot against record at risk.....

WW

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#35 DisappointedFan
January 31 2014, 10:57AM
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@Czar

I believe the term "too little too late" comes to mind on a player who's a UFA at the end of the season...

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#36 james_dean
January 31 2014, 12:26PM
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Serious gord is an idiot.

boot this douche from this great site

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#37 shaddup
January 31 2014, 02:01PM
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A-Mc wrote:

If it is unknown how it would have affected the team by buying out Hemsky, then by that same logic you can't possibly conclude that it was a bad move to NOT buy him out; so please drop it.

You've said your piece. We've all read it in many of your posts prior to the ones in this article. There is no reason to continually repeat yourself.

Speak for yourself, I like reading Serious Gord's comments. I may not agree with him, but I like that he has an opinion and can express why he has those opinions.

If you don't care to read his comments, kindly skip over it and allow those of us who do to read it and comment accordingly.

Who the hell are you to speak for the rest of us?

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#38 oilabroad
January 31 2014, 09:50AM
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YEGFan wrote:

Fistric was not great for us. He could not carry our already weak D and needed time to grow and learn how to do things other than ignore his assignments and go for a big hit. He needed to be sheltered by stronger defensemen like he is in Anaheim. He has some useful skills, but he is not what the Oilers need and that was obvious. The Oilers are in desperate need of top end defensive talent, not 6-7 guys who can fill a niche role on a cup contender.

I am pretty sure he sat around unsigned for a long time last summer. There was no "missed... housekeeping." He proved himself to not be what the Oilers needed to prioritize. His current usefulness would probably not have materialized if he was still an Oiler.

He also was frequently a healthy scratch while here. I don't buy that the decline from last year to this year has anything to do with him.

While I agree with JW that he was not worth 2M, I disagree with you completely. He was the only 5-7D we had who was holding his head above water, and the scratches were not justified based on the stats... I am too lazy to look it up, but I do remember this being written about by JW and others

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#39 2004Z06
January 31 2014, 09:54AM
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Ladies and gentlemen...Your Edmonton Marlies!

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#40 YEGFan
January 31 2014, 11:23AM
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Zarny wrote:

Actually if you're Fedun, you're thinking "great maybe Fraser will be able to knock ginormous centers like Getzlaf and Thornton off the puck...because I certainly can't do it."

Yeah! He can lay big hits on Thornton and Getzlaf after they've passed the puck for easy goals by Pavelski and Perry! Then I'm sure Thornton and Getzlaf will think twice before completely outplaying him again on the next shift, because, you know, tough guys on every team have been super effective at shutting centres like them down...

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#41 YEGFan
January 31 2014, 12:08PM
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@wellsy

Hartikainen. Cam Abney is exactly the sort of draft pick I'm complaining about.

I know the Finn was looking pretty unexciting last year, but his performance in the KHL sounds like he has been taking major steps forward. It is still entirely possible (I am saying possible, not likely) he turns into a winger that can move up and down the line up. That is not "nothing." He could have actually been a useful player for the Oilers to have.

Mark Fraser looks like he will actually make the Oilers worse under the guise of making them tougher.

Ultimately I agree, this trade is probably inconsequential. I decided to fight this fight because so many people keep talking about toughness as if it's a valuable commodity in and of itself, when it is not.

The toughness philosophy has been the organization's MO for years. They keep getting tough players with glimmers of competence who just never pan out and cost the team goals. Everybody quickly forgets, notices that the team lacks competent tough players, and screams that they need to go out and get them. Rather than getting a player who is having success and driving possession they go out and get another tough guy who isn't. The tough guy doesn't get better and instead gets super exposed because he can't make up for the overwhelming inexperience elsewhere in the line up (mostly defense right now), and it all repeats itself.

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#42 Noooo!!!
January 31 2014, 12:23PM
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michael wrote:

Hemsky's 5 million looks great next season off the books. Add Eager,N.Shultz(3.75),Smyth at 2.25(I think he is resigned at 1.5).Grebby,Belov,Potter,Larsen(1.1)and whole whack of other guys.We'll save on the goaltending.DD was 3.75. think you can sign Scrivens and one other goalie for a lot less than that.I see Gagner being shown his hat at the draft.There goes 4+million.

My point is that cap space even with having to sign RFA's will be plentiful.Hemsky's return if its a 3rd is fine by me.Its better than nothing.

Eakins quote "Fraser adds a growl back there"

I sure hope you are very, very wrong about Smyth being resigned at ANY cost.Please,please tell me you are going to be wrong.

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#43 james_dean
January 31 2014, 12:26PM
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Serious gord is an idiot.

boot this douche from this great site

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#44 Stack Pad Save
January 31 2014, 09:09AM
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Good trade. 2 parts that are never going to play for a 6-8 D-man. This means more trades to come for guys like Potter at the deadline.

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#45 Pierre Pretorius
January 31 2014, 09:18AM
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Like this trade because i think Belov cant be the only physical on our team as well with smid playing in Calgary we need some grit back there

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#46 DisappointedFan
January 31 2014, 09:33AM
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Giving up Fistric was one of his worst decisions (not that he's made many) because that was a player who brought the physicality every night and didn't let guys stand near his goalie. Let's hope Mark Fraser brings that same aspect to a severely lacking team.

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#47 YEGFan
January 31 2014, 10:12AM
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Sal-Sational wrote:

Im ok with the deal.Our Back End is Kind of looking Big and strong and tough to play against. J.Schultz (6'2) - N.Schultz (6'1) / A.Ference (5'11); Petry (6'3) - Marinčin (6'4); now Belov (6'4) - Fraser (6'4)

Is anybody surprised that the league's worst defense isn't all that small?

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#48 YEGFan
January 31 2014, 10:14AM
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Kenta wrote:

I guess the Oilers don't need Giordano now. LOL.

6'0 200lbs?! Too small. Not what the Oilers need.

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#49 JeffG
January 31 2014, 10:26AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Not buying out Hemsky? You're kidding, right?

Unfortunately not.

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#50 DisappointedFan
January 31 2014, 10:54AM
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oilersd wrote:

Fistric wanted 2 mil to sign with oilers. Ducks got him for 900 000. Third pairing dmen are not that hard to come by as evidenced by the current crop of oilers d. This move is strategy for a later deal IMO.

So you're telling me that the current crop of oilers d make hits and are physical?

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