SAM GAGNER'S NAME "OUT THERE"

Lowetide
January 04 2014 05:10PM

During tonight's Hotstove portion of the HNIC pre-game, Elliotte Friedman told the nation "Sam Gagner's name is out there" and suggested the Oilers would find him a place he'd be comfortable with playing (if a transaction were to be completed). It sounds very much like the team and player have decided a move could be made if it fits for all sides, although specifics weren't covered in the brief report.

LATE SEPTEMBER (21st)

Gagner's season went sideways in a hurry one autumn night in Vancouver, and the impact has been felt by player and team all season long. I don't for a minute believe that the Kassian stick incident led us to this day, but it probably hurried it along.

Bottom line: Craig MacTavish has to make plans for next year. He has to ask questions:

  1. Is Dallas Eakins the coach of next year's team?
  2. Do the Oilers need to improve up the middle?
  3. Has Mark Arcobello done enough to make Gagner expendable?
  4. Will the organization have the same number of similar talents in the top 6F next season?
  5. Can they get value for Gagner?
  6. Is Gagner a part of the future with Eakins in charge?

Those are tough questions, but the news today suggests that they exist in the organization and Sam Gagner (who perhaps Gagner has questions about his future as an Oiler) may be heading out of Edmonton during the season.

What does it all mean? Well, you never get full value in these situations, so prepare to be disappointed with the return. On the other hand, the Oilers will be going to market next summer with more money and will very likely arrive at training camp next fall with a bigger lineup.

We wait.

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#51 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 04 2014, 07:26PM
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Sometimes you just have to make moves and hope for the best. Teams trade under performing players all the time and some guys just flourish in other environments... Lupul, JVR, Perron, etc Some guys just need a change of scenery. When your team is crap and you've got the wrong mix just do something! You might pull off a well thought out win-win....or you might just get lucky.

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#52 Mr common sense
January 04 2014, 07:27PM
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Ummm the oil may rid themselves of one of their midgets? Ummm....what's the issue?

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#53 HardBoiledOil
January 04 2014, 07:31PM
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Primo wrote:

So that will make 5 coaches in the past 6 years. Do you still think a problem with the coaching?? Wake up man look beyond the coaching!!

people who don't want their favorite players traded will always think yet another coaching change is the answer....I don't and it isn't. we still have several players here that don't buy into Eakins system and didn't try to buy into previous coaching systems.....time to make the players accountable!

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#54 Kevin
January 04 2014, 07:32PM
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LoweMustGO wrote:

MacT learned how to buy high and sell low while getting his MBA.

all the Oil Brass have an MBA- Mega Bank Accounts. Thanks to the fans and we have to suffer with this brutal team and management group ! Since we are paying the bills- though not writing the checks, what can we do not as one but strength in numbers to demand CHANGE ?

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#55 etownman
January 04 2014, 07:35PM
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Maybe Kadri is coming this way from the Big Smoke!

Also, Gagner got the pay the market had him at according to his numbers & what other players were getting. Sometimes players & teams just have to make a change & we all know the Oilers have to change the make up of this team so why not Sammy? Besides, there is other centers on this team right now who can do what Sammy does only better. Let's get it done!

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#56 madjam
January 04 2014, 07:35PM
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Gagner probably talked with ex Oilers in Anaheim the other day , and decided he might want to go to a contender . He's probably given up the Oilers will be a contender any year soon . Time for Gagner to maybe blossom in another venue like a lot have done . Big salary like Smid had and probably quite similar scenario trading him .Expect return to be negative at best , unfortunately .

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#57 S cottV
January 04 2014, 07:38PM
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1. He may not survive into Feb the way it's going and with the teams they are up against.

2. With RNH 2 to 3 years away from entering his prime a strong 2C or better yet an immediate 1C is a must, in order to compete for a playoff spot.

3. Arco can fill in short term but is not the mid term answer. He needs to demonstrate 3C capability beyond what Gordon is capable of in order to stick long term. Don't see that happening but give him a go to see. Would love to see the Oilers so strong in the middle, that it bumps Gordon to an excellent 4C.

4. Oilers have to plug holes in the middle and back end. The abundance of small skill forwards are expendable if could somehow assist toward filling the critical holes.

5. Probably not but move him anyway. Oilers will not make the playoffs with Gagner in the middle.

6. I don't see Eakins or Gagner in the mix beyond this year. Gagner will probably go at the deadline. Eakins may not make it past the end of the month but even if he does, I really think MacT will be forced to fess up that Eakins is not the answer for a playoff run.

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#58 Tuningout
January 04 2014, 07:39PM
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Primo wrote:

So that will make 5 coaches in the past 6 years. Do you still think a problem with the coaching?? Wake up man look beyond the coaching!!

Last year under Krueger (despite the same assistants) this was a better team with a better record, playing entirely against the tougher western conference. The team and it's players were trending up it seemed, enough so that some media and analysts picked the oilers to make the playoffs this year. Games (at least many games) were fun to watch.

This year, Eakins, with a better roster and another year experience for many young players is gaining on DFLast In the league. Everyone and everything is trending down with no hope in sight. And I'd rather watch curling.

There are many problems with this team. But coaching is #1 my friend.

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#59 S cottV
January 04 2014, 07:40PM
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1. He may not survive into Feb the way it's going and with the teams they are up against.

2. With RNH 2 to 3 years away from entering his prime a strong 2C or better yet an immediate 1C is a must, in order to compete for a playoff spot.

3. Arco can fill in short term but is not the mid term answer. He needs to demonstrate 3C capability beyond what Gordon is capable of in order to stick long term. Don't see that happening but give him a go to see. Would love to see the Oilers so strong in the middle, that it bumps Gordon to an excellent 4C.

4. Oilers have to plug holes in the middle and back end. The abundance of small skill forwards are expendable if could somehow assist toward filling the critical holes.

5. Probably not but move him anyway. Oilers will not make the playoffs with Gagner in the middle.

6. I don't see Eakins or Gagner in the mix beyond this year. Gagner will probably go at the deadline. Eakins may not make it past the end of the month but even if he does, I really think MacT will be forced to fess up that Eakins is not the answer for a playoff run.

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#60 Josh Oiler
January 04 2014, 07:48PM
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LETS TRADE THE ENTIRE TEAM (all 4 lines) ALONG WITH DALLAS EAKINS AND THE ENTIRE COACHING STAFF FOR SHEA WEBER

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#61 gcw_rocks
January 04 2014, 07:49PM
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Gagner should be going to Buffalo to be the Sabres top right wing in exchange for Ehrhoff. Who cares if Gagner doesn't want to go there if it's the best move for the Oilers and buffalo shows interest?

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#62 Rod from Viking
January 04 2014, 07:50PM
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madjam wrote:

Gagner probably talked with ex Oilers in Anaheim the other day , and decided he might want to go to a contender . He's probably given up the Oilers will be a contender any year soon . Time for Gagner to maybe blossom in another venue like a lot have done . Big salary like Smid had and probably quite similar scenario trading him .Expect return to be negative at best , unfortunately .

I was just going to post the same thing, Cog's and Sam are best friends and I am sure Penner and Sam are friends as well, Can you imagine Cog's telling him about his new contract, the great team,house on the beach and no one knowing who you are in public, I am sure that was enough for Gag's comparing the two situation and he went to Mac T. This is going so bad here it is scarey, we have 6 month's of winter, a management and owner that are alienating the entire fan base, a new coach that seems over his head and is saddled with two assistants that have survived 3 and 4 head coaches respectively. Who would want to play here.

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#63 Primo
January 04 2014, 07:54PM
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vetinari wrote:

@Primo-- we all know that there are problems with the roster and problems with upper management, but how can anyone say that the present coaching team is not the number one problem right now?

We're worse in all aspects of the game, in the standings and in player morale and performance-- if that's not signs of a coaching problem, then what is?

Are you saying that it is better to stick with the current problem just because we've had too many coaches recently? That's like saying we should stick with a bad goalie just because it would be too hard on team morale to bring it a different goalie. Identify the problem and either do something to remove it or else if you have to live with it, then minimize it.

Coaching is not the problem with the Oilers!! The one and only problem with the Oiler organization is ACCOUNTABILITY! There is none. 6 rings has no accountability to win. Hate to break it to you but neither do the players. 1st overalls that sign >$30MM contracts need to be held accountable for production. With the Oilers they are not! 1st overalls that don't produce RNH, YAK) require development in the AHL. That will never happen with the Oilers because they do not hold players accountable! Justin Schultz is pathetic and needs development in the AHL, that will never happen! Eberle needs to be accountable for his poor ice performance but rather he keeps playing. Nothing changes! Oiler fans wake up, coaching is not the problem.

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#64 Rod from Viking
January 04 2014, 08:01PM
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@Primo

Exactly, I think Eakin's and Mac T is trying to change the environment into a more winner mentality but it is 2 against 100 or so it seems.

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#65 vetinari
January 04 2014, 08:02PM
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Primo wrote:

Coaching is not the problem with the Oilers!! The one and only problem with the Oiler organization is ACCOUNTABILITY! There is none. 6 rings has no accountability to win. Hate to break it to you but neither do the players. 1st overalls that sign >$30MM contracts need to be held accountable for production. With the Oilers they are not! 1st overalls that don't produce RNH, YAK) require development in the AHL. That will never happen with the Oilers because they do not hold players accountable! Justin Schultz is pathetic and needs development in the AHL, that will never happen! Eberle needs to be accountable for his poor ice performance but rather he keeps playing. Nothing changes! Oiler fans wake up, coaching is not the problem.

You are arguing accountability, then hold the coaches accountable-- fire the ones that need to go.

Coaches determine the lineup, coaches determine the lines, coaches determine the time on ice for players, coaches determine how the players are deployed (PP, PK, 5v5), and the coaches determine what strategies are used. If all (or almost all) of these areas have gotten worse after a coaching change, then it likely wasn't a good coaching change.

I'm not saying it's the only problem, but it's a big one. Yak asked for a trade because of how he was being used, and it won't be long before that spreads to other players. Refusing to fix a problem because there has been too much movement at that position (i.e. the coach) recently is just not rational.

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#66 Primo
January 04 2014, 08:03PM
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Tuningout wrote:

Last year under Krueger (despite the same assistants) this was a better team with a better record, playing entirely against the tougher western conference. The team and it's players were trending up it seemed, enough so that some media and analysts picked the oilers to make the playoffs this year. Games (at least many games) were fun to watch.

This year, Eakins, with a better roster and another year experience for many young players is gaining on DFLast In the league. Everyone and everything is trending down with no hope in sight. And I'd rather watch curling.

There are many problems with this team. But coaching is #1 my friend.

Hmmm...I guess your solution then is to change coaches pretty much on a yearly basis. Unheard of in pro sports history. Expand your horizons, look beyond the coaching. Your strategy in not sustainable. The coaches in the Oilers organization cannot continuously be held as the scapegoats year in and year out. What a joke!

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#67 Kr55
January 04 2014, 08:06PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

I told everyone yesterday!!!

Lindy Ruff was available and the Oilers didn't move!

Brian Burke could have also been had as GM!

MacT: ITS TIME TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON A BLOCKBUSTER DEAL

Sam Gagner and 2014 1st round pick for David Clarkeson.

Yeah, I'd rather get a bum off the street named David "Clarkeson" for that package than David Clarkson and his horrible contract.

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#68 Josh Oiler
January 04 2014, 08:06PM
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Primo wrote:

Coaching is not the problem with the Oilers!! The one and only problem with the Oiler organization is ACCOUNTABILITY! There is none. 6 rings has no accountability to win. Hate to break it to you but neither do the players. 1st overalls that sign >$30MM contracts need to be held accountable for production. With the Oilers they are not! 1st overalls that don't produce RNH, YAK) require development in the AHL. That will never happen with the Oilers because they do not hold players accountable! Justin Schultz is pathetic and needs development in the AHL, that will never happen! Eberle needs to be accountable for his poor ice performance but rather he keeps playing. Nothing changes! Oiler fans wake up, coaching is not the problem.

Look here Primo Pasta and Sauce,

Accountability comes from the coaching there pal.

P.S. Justin Shultz got 1st team All-Star off half a season in AHL. Check your facts before posting Pasta Man.

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#69 Rod from Viking
January 04 2014, 08:09PM
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@Vance in LA

Pretty comical, thanks for that.

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#70 Bryzarro World
January 04 2014, 08:09PM
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Primo wrote:

Coaching is not the problem with the Oilers!! The one and only problem with the Oiler organization is ACCOUNTABILITY! There is none. 6 rings has no accountability to win. Hate to break it to you but neither do the players. 1st overalls that sign >$30MM contracts need to be held accountable for production. With the Oilers they are not! 1st overalls that don't produce RNH, YAK) require development in the AHL. That will never happen with the Oilers because they do not hold players accountable! Justin Schultz is pathetic and needs development in the AHL, that will never happen! Eberle needs to be accountable for his poor ice performance but rather he keeps playing. Nothing changes! Oiler fans wake up, coaching is not the problem.

The coach doesn't need to be accountable for his bad systems, poor communication, poor player management and on and on and on...??

The guy takes no responsibility for anything.

Give your head a shake...

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#71 6 ring circus
January 04 2014, 08:09PM
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Does everyone remember when Tambellini first took over? They blamed the losing on the veterans and the bad attitude and they got rid of them,then management blamed the training staff after Souray called them out because the Oilers wanted him to play hurt and they were all fired,then management blamed the losing on man games lost do to injury and coaching for a few seasons,now Eakins is blaming the losing on inexperience and the players do not understand defense systems,WTF the team is made up mostly of young players and wasn't Eakins hired because he had success developing young players? When will the blaming carousal end up on management and the professional and amateur scouting departments, they are the idiots who put this team together!!!

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#72 Josh Oiler
January 04 2014, 08:10PM
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Kr55 wrote:

Yeah, I'd rather get a bum off the street named David "Clarkeson" for that package than David Clarkson and his horrible contract.

Some real comedians posting here today. Speaking of packages... Umm actually never mind.. May be some kids reading this.

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#73 MessyEH
January 04 2014, 08:11PM
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@Primo

The problem always starts, and ends, with management. In the Oilers case that's Lowe.

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#74 Fish
January 04 2014, 08:12PM
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We will be in 30th, 5 games from now. We play Tampa, STL, the Pens, Hawks, and Dallas (Lucky to win 1 of 5). The Sabers are 5W 3L 2T in their last ten and their next 5 games are against the Canes, Panthers, Capitals, Flyers and Leafs (Probably win 3 of 5). Which puts Buffalo one point up on us with 2 games in hand.

At least Ekblad will look good on the second pairing next year. Does a roster of 1st pairing of XXX, Shultz Jr. 2nd pair Ference and Ekblad, 3rd pair Nurse and Petry get us McDavid?

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#75 MessyEH
January 04 2014, 08:16PM
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Primo wrote:

Hmmm...I guess your solution then is to change coaches pretty much on a yearly basis. Unheard of in pro sports history. Expand your horizons, look beyond the coaching. Your strategy in not sustainable. The coaches in the Oilers organization cannot continuously be held as the scapegoats year in and year out. What a joke!

Please take the time to look at the roster turnover. the Oilers have gone through a lot of players over the last 4 years.

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#76 Josh Oiler
January 04 2014, 08:16PM
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@Fish

@Fish Face

Sidney Crosby won't get you Connor McDavid

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#77 Rod from Viking
January 04 2014, 08:17PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

Some real comedians posting here today. Speaking of packages... Umm actually never mind.. May be some kids reading this.

Don't you think that was pretty funny? I think Clarkson and his contact would be better here than in Toronto, it looks like he has the playing in front of the home town syndrome.

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#78 40 Double D
January 04 2014, 08:19PM
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The Oilers are so proud to 'Select glad for Ekblad.' And next year, we'll 'Brave it for McDavid.'

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#79 Primo
January 04 2014, 08:19PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

Some real comedians posting here today. Speaking of packages... Umm actually never mind.. May be some kids reading this.

Joshy...judging buy your intelligent comments the only comedian is you. I suspect you have never played sports based on your comments. Accountability comes from the players on the ice. Thats right. The ones that are accountable for heart, desire, loyalty, hard work and production. In return they get fame, recognition, an opportunity to play in an elite league and wealth i.e. juicy pay checks. Quit blaming the coaches "intel" man!

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#80 Jason
January 04 2014, 08:20PM
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What troubles me is that every year for the last 5 we have said that we have speed and finesse with a promising offense, but we need more reliable goaltending, and bigger, stronger, nastier forwards and defense.

As much as MacT has overpromised and underdelivered, he has acquired more reliable goaltending ( Bryzgalov), and bigger, stronger, nastier forwards and defense (He added Perron, Gordon, Gadzic and drafted Nurse)

Not yet the results, but mover toward that end.

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#81 Oiler63
January 04 2014, 08:22PM
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Borrowing a quote from Moneyball, There are good teams and there are bad teams, then there's fifty feet of crap, and then there's oilers.

Except we don't have a Billy Beane. All we have is Kevin Lowe and his fifty feet of crap!!

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#82 Rick Stroppel
January 04 2014, 08:22PM
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PLEASE DO SOMETHING

Fred Shero had many great sayings and one of them was this: "If you want to avoid controversy, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing".

It looks like MacTavish really wants to avoid controversy.

If he doesn't do something, and quick, this is what MacTavish is saying to all the fans AND every player on the team: "I can say anything (coaching not a problem, bold moves, impatient, etc.) and it all means NOTHING. I don't really have a plan, I am just making this up as we go along. I decide everything on whims and hunches, just like my mentor Kevin Lowe! It's the Oilers way!"

I strongly suspect that Gagner has requested a trade. After being part of this endless gong show for seven years, who can blame him? He seems like a nice young man and I wish him well wherever he winds up.

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#83 Josh Oiler
January 04 2014, 08:24PM
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Primo wrote:

Joshy...judging buy your intelligent comments the only comedian is you. I suspect you have never played sports based on your comments. Accountability comes from the players on the ice. Thats right. The ones that are accountable for heart, desire, loyalty, hard work and production. In return they get fame, recognition, an opportunity to play in an elite league and wealth i.e. juicy pay checks. Quit blaming the coaches "intel" man!

"JOSHY"

Haha I've never been called that before. YOU MUST BE A HOCKEY PLAYER!!! I'd like to know on what level?

Look here Primo Pasta and Sauce, there are some coaches you'd run thru a brick wall for..... And some you'd take a piss on.... Accountability??

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#84 MessyEH
January 04 2014, 08:25PM
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Forget about a whole line of 1st overalls. The Oilers may be able to ice fwds, D pairing and a goalie of 1st overalls.

Is this how the Islanders fans feel?

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#85 Josh Oiler
January 04 2014, 08:31PM
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I'm officially making the statement: you heard it here first.

For the remainder of the season we are going to:

PLAY BAD FOR EKBLAD

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#86 Rama Lama
January 04 2014, 08:31PM
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Primo wrote:

Hmmm...I guess your solution then is to change coaches pretty much on a yearly basis. Unheard of in pro sports history. Expand your horizons, look beyond the coaching. Your strategy in not sustainable. The coaches in the Oilers organization cannot continuously be held as the scapegoats year in and year out. What a joke!

Did it ever occur to you that just maybe.......we had the right coach in Krueger all along??

Keeping the wrong coach just because he started a few months ago.......now that's a joke.

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#87 Nina Russo
January 04 2014, 08:40PM
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Why not trade him ... It worked for Cogliano. Lord knows we couldn't use a third line centre like Cogliano on this team right now. Oh wait we have Boyd Gordon, who scores a point a game. Trade gags so he can be a point a game player on a team like LA or Anaheim, or Van, or St Louis.

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#88 **
January 04 2014, 08:43PM
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"Suck D%#k for the top pick!"

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#89 kale
January 04 2014, 08:44PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Don't you think that was pretty funny? I think Clarkson and his contact would be better here than in Toronto, it looks like he has the playing in front of the home town syndrome.

The positive thing about trading Gags for Clarkson is that we would be getting Clarkson for less than we were prepared to pay for him last summer and we would be moving Gags. But I am not a huge Clarkson fan otherwise

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#90 Shopping for LD
January 04 2014, 08:45PM
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Possible LD shopping list. CHRISTIAN EHRHOFF, DMITRY KULIKOV, MICHAEL DEL ZOTTO, PAUL MARTIN, BRYDON COBURN, ANDREI MARKOV UFA, DAN HAMHUIS. Who is possibly in play? Who is a good fit for XXX?

1st pairing of XXX, Shultz Jr. 2nd pair Ference and Ekblad, 3rd pair Nurse and Petry

Probably not my first choice, but Ehrhoff could be a nice fit there. I'd take Markov on a 3 year deal.

WITH THE RIGHT XXX, I don't mind those pairings. Better than what we're rolling now.

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#91 Serious Gord
January 04 2014, 08:50PM
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Sam gagner's value as a player is less than his contract is in $. In other words he has negative value - if he just disappeared and the oil got his salary and roster spot back they could get a better player - better ability and a better fit - with the cash.

Thus the oil when - not if - they trade him sometime before the start of next season will be trading for another player who has negative value in the eyes of their current team.

The difficulty is that the type of player gagner is is in extreme surplus - very few teams need or want what he has to offer whereas what the oil needs is in heavy demand almost everywhere

So the oil need to find a team that is under extreme salary cap pressure, has a 1-2 line player who is under performing and is grossly over paid - much more than gagner - and that team has to have an up and coming replacement for that player - because the oil don't have one to sweeten the deal.

I have no idea what team (or teams) fits that bill but I fear that his boldness will trade like for like - a small, ineffective, sub 1-2 line centre coming back or get a bunch of 3-4 line size that is too slow.

And when that trade happens it will be a huge negative on the scoresheet for MacT. Signing gagner was a massive mistake.

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#92 MessyEH
January 04 2014, 08:57PM
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The only measure of a player's worth is his ability to help his team.

Gagner does not help us.

He may just be what the Devils need. We need someone like Adam Larson. Not yet a #1 Dmen. But may be soon.

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#93 Serious Gord
January 04 2014, 08:57PM
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kale wrote:

The positive thing about trading Gags for Clarkson is that we would be getting Clarkson for less than we were prepared to pay for him last summer and we would be moving Gags. But I am not a huge Clarkson fan otherwise

Surely clarkson has an NTC.

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#94 Stall35
January 04 2014, 08:59PM
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HardBoiledOil wrote:

Cogs numbers were mediocre at best his first season with the Ducks, and the previous two with the Oilers. he had a pretty decent year last year in 48 games and is doing roughly the same this year so far. let's not get carried away with the "flourish" stuff until we actually see if he can do it consistently year in and year out.

Well maybe flourished isn't the right word, but he sure is more effective and consistent than what we've got.

The ducks certainly appreciate what he does with rewarding him an extension and at this point, I must say their management ate more "in the know" than ours.

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#95 Stall35
January 04 2014, 09:01PM
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reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan) wrote:

DO NOT LET MACT MAKE A TRADE!! He is stupid. the problem is incompetence at the top so why let a fool make a trade for this team?

Not gonna get anything for Gagner anyway and Arco has not shown to be a replacement yet.

Its what Edmonton teams do...hand the reigns to the geniuses (not so much)...look at what Tillman did for our Eskimos....or rather what he did for the Argonauts...lol

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#96 Rod from Viking
January 04 2014, 09:05PM
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@Serious Gord

Gord, another way another team may look at is almost every player the Oiler's have traded lately has been far better on the next team. With the cap they will have to take back another contract that may be deemed excessive but maybe that player will fit in better here,do you feel the Oil management is starting to feel the heat?

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#97 MessyEH
January 04 2014, 09:10PM
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@Serious Gord

Seriously Gordo,

maybe your best post yet.

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#98 The Swarm
January 04 2014, 09:12PM
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madjam wrote:

Gagner probably talked with ex Oilers in Anaheim the other day , and decided he might want to go to a contender . He's probably given up the Oilers will be a contender any year soon . Time for Gagner to maybe blossom in another venue like a lot have done . Big salary like Smid had and probably quite similar scenario trading him .Expect return to be negative at best , unfortunately .

I am not sure much of a return is required when you're paying someone close to $5m/yr for a guy that serves no specific purpose. He's not a terrible player but doesn't excel at anything.

Is he...

A PP specialist? Nope - average at best and can't retreive pucks. Shootout specialist? Nope, not anymore, not sure he's top 3 on the team. Defensive specialist? NOPE. Face-off specialist? NOPE. Crasher? NOPE. Leadership? NOPE.

The Oilers need players that can play specific roles VERY well.

I say get what you can for him, and hopefully whatever comes back for him can fill a specific role.

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#99 Naky
January 04 2014, 09:14PM
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I am skeptical about Sam Gagner being willing for a trade knowing what I know about the circumstances behind his requiring the NTC. But if those circumstances have changed or he was able to make things work then I suppose it's possible.

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#100 nick
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Exactly, I think Eakin's and Mac T is trying to change the environment into a more winner mentality but it is 2 against 100 or so it seems.

Unfortunately the coach that MacT hired is totally incompetent. Normally would agree that coach is not the problem but Eakins is just a very very bad coach and he must be removed. If the two of those guys are trying to change the mentality they have a very strange way of trying to accomplish it.

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