SAM GAGNER'S NAME "OUT THERE"

Lowetide
January 04 2014 05:10PM

During tonight's Hotstove portion of the HNIC pre-game, Elliotte Friedman told the nation "Sam Gagner's name is out there" and suggested the Oilers would find him a place he'd be comfortable with playing (if a transaction were to be completed). It sounds very much like the team and player have decided a move could be made if it fits for all sides, although specifics weren't covered in the brief report.

LATE SEPTEMBER (21st)

Gagner's season went sideways in a hurry one autumn night in Vancouver, and the impact has been felt by player and team all season long. I don't for a minute believe that the Kassian stick incident led us to this day, but it probably hurried it along.

Bottom line: Craig MacTavish has to make plans for next year. He has to ask questions:

  1. Is Dallas Eakins the coach of next year's team?
  2. Do the Oilers need to improve up the middle?
  3. Has Mark Arcobello done enough to make Gagner expendable?
  4. Will the organization have the same number of similar talents in the top 6F next season?
  5. Can they get value for Gagner?
  6. Is Gagner a part of the future with Eakins in charge?

Those are tough questions, but the news today suggests that they exist in the organization and Sam Gagner (who perhaps Gagner has questions about his future as an Oiler) may be heading out of Edmonton during the season.

What does it all mean? Well, you never get full value in these situations, so prepare to be disappointed with the return. On the other hand, the Oilers will be going to market next summer with more money and will very likely arrive at training camp next fall with a bigger lineup.

We wait.

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#151 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 04 2014, 07:26PM
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Sometimes you just have to make moves and hope for the best. Teams trade under performing players all the time and some guys just flourish in other environments... Lupul, JVR, Perron, etc Some guys just need a change of scenery. When your team is crap and you've got the wrong mix just do something! You might pull off a well thought out win-win....or you might just get lucky.

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#152 Kevin
January 04 2014, 07:32PM
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LoweMustGO wrote:

MacT learned how to buy high and sell low while getting his MBA.

all the Oil Brass have an MBA- Mega Bank Accounts. Thanks to the fans and we have to suffer with this brutal team and management group ! Since we are paying the bills- though not writing the checks, what can we do not as one but strength in numbers to demand CHANGE ?

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#153 Rod from Viking
January 04 2014, 07:50PM
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madjam wrote:

Gagner probably talked with ex Oilers in Anaheim the other day , and decided he might want to go to a contender . He's probably given up the Oilers will be a contender any year soon . Time for Gagner to maybe blossom in another venue like a lot have done . Big salary like Smid had and probably quite similar scenario trading him .Expect return to be negative at best , unfortunately .

I was just going to post the same thing, Cog's and Sam are best friends and I am sure Penner and Sam are friends as well, Can you imagine Cog's telling him about his new contract, the great team,house on the beach and no one knowing who you are in public, I am sure that was enough for Gag's comparing the two situation and he went to Mac T. This is going so bad here it is scarey, we have 6 month's of winter, a management and owner that are alienating the entire fan base, a new coach that seems over his head and is saddled with two assistants that have survived 3 and 4 head coaches respectively. Who would want to play here.

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#154 Kr55
January 04 2014, 08:06PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

I told everyone yesterday!!!

Lindy Ruff was available and the Oilers didn't move!

Brian Burke could have also been had as GM!

MacT: ITS TIME TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON A BLOCKBUSTER DEAL

Sam Gagner and 2014 1st round pick for David Clarkeson.

Yeah, I'd rather get a bum off the street named David "Clarkeson" for that package than David Clarkson and his horrible contract.

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#155 Rod from Viking
January 04 2014, 08:09PM
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@Vance in LA

Pretty comical, thanks for that.

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#156 MessyEH
January 04 2014, 08:11PM
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@Primo

The problem always starts, and ends, with management. In the Oilers case that's Lowe.

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#157 Fish
January 04 2014, 08:12PM
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We will be in 30th, 5 games from now. We play Tampa, STL, the Pens, Hawks, and Dallas (Lucky to win 1 of 5). The Sabers are 5W 3L 2T in their last ten and their next 5 games are against the Canes, Panthers, Capitals, Flyers and Leafs (Probably win 3 of 5). Which puts Buffalo one point up on us with 2 games in hand.

At least Ekblad will look good on the second pairing next year. Does a roster of 1st pairing of XXX, Shultz Jr. 2nd pair Ference and Ekblad, 3rd pair Nurse and Petry get us McDavid?

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#158 Jason
January 04 2014, 08:20PM
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What troubles me is that every year for the last 5 we have said that we have speed and finesse with a promising offense, but we need more reliable goaltending, and bigger, stronger, nastier forwards and defense.

As much as MacT has overpromised and underdelivered, he has acquired more reliable goaltending ( Bryzgalov), and bigger, stronger, nastier forwards and defense (He added Perron, Gordon, Gadzic and drafted Nurse)

Not yet the results, but mover toward that end.

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#159 Oiler63
January 04 2014, 08:22PM
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Borrowing a quote from Moneyball, There are good teams and there are bad teams, then there's fifty feet of crap, and then there's oilers.

Except we don't have a Billy Beane. All we have is Kevin Lowe and his fifty feet of crap!!

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#160 kale
January 04 2014, 08:44PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Don't you think that was pretty funny? I think Clarkson and his contact would be better here than in Toronto, it looks like he has the playing in front of the home town syndrome.

The positive thing about trading Gags for Clarkson is that we would be getting Clarkson for less than we were prepared to pay for him last summer and we would be moving Gags. But I am not a huge Clarkson fan otherwise

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#161 Serious Gord
January 04 2014, 08:57PM
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kale wrote:

The positive thing about trading Gags for Clarkson is that we would be getting Clarkson for less than we were prepared to pay for him last summer and we would be moving Gags. But I am not a huge Clarkson fan otherwise

Surely clarkson has an NTC.

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#162 Stall35
January 04 2014, 09:01PM
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reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan) wrote:

DO NOT LET MACT MAKE A TRADE!! He is stupid. the problem is incompetence at the top so why let a fool make a trade for this team?

Not gonna get anything for Gagner anyway and Arco has not shown to be a replacement yet.

Its what Edmonton teams do...hand the reigns to the geniuses (not so much)...look at what Tillman did for our Eskimos....or rather what he did for the Argonauts...lol

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#163 The Swarm
January 04 2014, 09:12PM
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madjam wrote:

Gagner probably talked with ex Oilers in Anaheim the other day , and decided he might want to go to a contender . He's probably given up the Oilers will be a contender any year soon . Time for Gagner to maybe blossom in another venue like a lot have done . Big salary like Smid had and probably quite similar scenario trading him .Expect return to be negative at best , unfortunately .

I am not sure much of a return is required when you're paying someone close to $5m/yr for a guy that serves no specific purpose. He's not a terrible player but doesn't excel at anything.

Is he...

A PP specialist? Nope - average at best and can't retreive pucks. Shootout specialist? Nope, not anymore, not sure he's top 3 on the team. Defensive specialist? NOPE. Face-off specialist? NOPE. Crasher? NOPE. Leadership? NOPE.

The Oilers need players that can play specific roles VERY well.

I say get what you can for him, and hopefully whatever comes back for him can fill a specific role.

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#164 nick
January 04 2014, 09:16PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Exactly, I think Eakin's and Mac T is trying to change the environment into a more winner mentality but it is 2 against 100 or so it seems.

Unfortunately the coach that MacT hired is totally incompetent. Normally would agree that coach is not the problem but Eakins is just a very very bad coach and he must be removed. If the two of those guys are trying to change the mentality they have a very strange way of trying to accomplish it.

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#165 Rod from Viking
January 04 2014, 10:17PM
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@Serious Gord

I know how my renewal call is going to go. I think the corporations are finding clients are not really enthused about going to games anymore and hopefully will be looking for a better "PR" investment. I wonder if people are taking their names of the waiting list. As far as buddy Bob Stauffer goes I bet this is driving him crazy trying to defend this nightmare.

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#166 Dave
January 04 2014, 10:31PM
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I agree with Serious - the poor play has already impacted all sorts of revenue streams. Fans and sponsors had hope at the start of the year and now the hope is gone... in fact the whole situation reminds me the the last days of the Pocklington regime. I could go to a game and pick my seat at the game.

The easiest way to gain hope is a whole scale coaching change during the Olympic break. Trading Sam would help the team but would not restore hope. Fans and sponsors need hope.

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#167 Serious Gord
January 04 2014, 10:34PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

I know how my renewal call is going to go. I think the corporations are finding clients are not really enthused about going to games anymore and hopefully will be looking for a better "PR" investment. I wonder if people are taking their names of the waiting list. As far as buddy Bob Stauffer goes I bet this is driving him crazy trying to defend this nightmare.

I think bob is in agony over how bad this organization is. I also think that he knows that the issues begin and end with Lowe. And that there is very little evidence that Katz has the guts to fire him.

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#168 Hockey fan 1976
January 04 2014, 10:37PM
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On a different note, it's nice to watch a real hockey game with real NHL players battling tonight on HNIC. Wow. Crazy how far the Oilers are from ever competing with the Kings/Ducks/Sharks of the NHL.

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#169 forsoothed
January 04 2014, 10:38PM
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To heck with an actual NHL player, I think we'll be lucky to get a 2nd round pick back for Gagner straight up. He's massively underperforming his contract right now.

Classic buy high, sell low move.

This is the kind of crap that should get managers fired.

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#170 Rod from Viking
January 04 2014, 10:45PM
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Hockey fan 1976 wrote:

On a different note, it's nice to watch a real hockey game with real NHL players battling tonight on HNIC. Wow. Crazy how far the Oilers are from ever competing with the Kings/Ducks/Sharks of the NHL.

Watching L.A. come back and beat Vancouver, Quick, Doughty, good players on both sides battling. If only in Edmonton.....

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#171 Dog Train
January 04 2014, 10:46PM
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Sam Gagner is not a good fit for what we need going forward. He could be of use to another team but everybody knows Edmonton is desperate right now. I don't see a big return but the fact is that we will not win with our top 6 currently constructed the way that it is.

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#172 Westcoastoil
January 04 2014, 11:32PM
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As sick as we the fans are at the constant losing and ineptitude, at least we can change the channel. I'm actually at the point where I feel bad for our good players (as much as you can feel bad for a millionaire). They have to keep coming to the rink to get booed and asskicked night after night with only the witless wonders upstairs in a position to fix the mess. Which by historical evidence they are incapable of doing.

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#173 Serious Gord
January 04 2014, 11:36PM
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HardBoiledOil wrote:

I have posted it here and there on hockey boards about how the Oilers will be lucky to win 25 games this year!

They have only won 9 in regulation so far. There is an outside chance they win fewer than twenty out of 82. Since '68 I'm pretty sure that that is in the top twenty-five for worst win record for a team that still exists.

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#174 psale63
January 05 2014, 01:06AM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Does everyone remember when Tambellini first took over? They blamed the losing on the veterans and the bad attitude and they got rid of them,then management blamed the training staff after Souray called them out because the Oilers wanted him to play hurt and they were all fired,then management blamed the losing on man games lost do to injury and coaching for a few seasons,now Eakins is blaming the losing on inexperience and the players do not understand defense systems,WTF the team is made up mostly of young players and wasn't Eakins hired because he had success developing young players? When will the blaming carousal end up on management and the professional and amateur scouting departments, they are the idiots who put this team together!!!

Easy, when we the fans stop paying and supporting this circus...

Sh!t rolls downhill, management has used every excuse in the book to explain the teams lack of success and progress the past 8 years. It's time the fans let the sh!t roll on Kevin Lowe.

I would love to hear a 'Fire Kevin Lowe!' chant on HNIC! That might get a few peoples attention...

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#175 Quinn the Eskimo
January 05 2014, 01:22AM
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MessyEH wrote:

Seriously Gordo,

maybe your best post yet.

Agreed.

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#176 spliff
January 05 2014, 02:07AM
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Kind of ironic that on the same day Cogliano is offered a 3 year 12 million contract to play for one of the best teams in the league, rumors arise about trading Sam Gagner.

I believed in MacT, maybe impressed by no-nonsense talk and apparent intelligence. However, I have now realized that he is just another incompetent manager in a long line of incompetent managers, who are getting schooled by almost every other management team in the league. If you stop and think how many bad signings, bad draft picks, bad trades, PR fiascos and bush-league moves the management group of the Oilers have made in the past 8 years, then is it really any surprise that they find themselves where they are? Katz must be a smart guy, being a billionaire businessman. So WTF can he not see this?

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#177 spliff
January 05 2014, 02:36AM
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I've been a fan since 1975, and these are, without a doubt, the darkest days for this organization. The blunders that have led to this situation are widespread and have seriously crippled this organizations ability to compete, even a a mid-level, in the 30 league NHL. Some of the blunders are:

* hiring mediocre ex-players from the 80's to important positions in coaching and scouting

* not having a farm team for many years

* trying to emulate the Red Wings instead of building a team on simple, traditional hockey fundamentals

* leaving Tambo at the controls for too long, and then replacing him with yet another ex-player who had a hand in creating this mess in the first place

* not surrounding the few young good draft picks they have made, with competent veterans

* losing may more trades then they win

* chasing big fish UFAs who were never going to sign here, and letting fan favorites like GlenX walk away for nothing

* and most of all, taking an incredibly loyal, passionate and patient fan-base for granted, and insulting the citizens of this fine city by threatening to move their piss poor team, and then subjecting us to arguably the worst stretch of sh*tshow hockey ever seen in the modern day NHL.

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#178 spliff
January 05 2014, 02:58AM
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@kale

Thanks.

It truly sucks being a fan of this team. I am a diehard fan of many decades, who has supported this team unconditionally through mostly mediocre or worse performance. However, this was the year I needed to see some improvement, but what we have seen is unacceptable. I don't know how MacT and they boys are going to rationalize this at the year end press conference. I do know that I am very slowly, but surely, starting to lose all hope for this organization. There must be thousands of life long and diehard fans that feel the same way. I would be very surprised if this team sells out games next year. Very surprised. The fans of this team owe MacT, KLowe, Bucky, Smith, Semenko any other ex-oiler cronies in the employ of this sad sack loser organization, nothing. Absolutely nothing.

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#179 MessyEH
January 05 2014, 04:41AM
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I fear the worst for DSF. He may have found, Oilers fans have been doing a better job of destroying all hope.

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#180 Loweblows
January 05 2014, 08:28AM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

I'm officially making the statement: you heard it here first.

For the remainder of the season we are going to:

PLAY BAD FOR EKBLAD

Obviously you are new to this site. Play bad for Ekblad has been said many times over. Stale just like Rexalls DJ.

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#181 hall the time
January 05 2014, 09:13AM
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Sisyphus wrote:

Just a thought....and let me be clear before I begin that I don't think any of Oilers current mgmt team is particularly brilliant.

That said, the Oilers are in a tough spot. Every GM in the league knows how bad we are, and how desperate we must be to improve. The current make-up of the team leaves very, very few truly trade-able assets to offer to other teams. The vast majority of our players (entire 3/4 lines, pretty much all dmen, all goalies) are the kind that other teams MIGHT see as fringe players at best. Certainly nothing worth trading for, let alone trading a solid NHL center/dman, etc. for.

Given that, I do think MacT may be trying his best, but he's finding that any trades at all in the next year or two are going to be very hard for the Oilers to break even on, let alone win. Other teams have little use for most of our players, and the players they would be interested in, we either can't or wont get rid of.

Gagner--never happening. Certainly not just before a NTC and contract starts. That's a fool's bet that he stops sucking. Hemmer--they'll just wait until he walks from EDM to pick him up, no one wants him for a playoff run. Yak might be valuable, but given his tantrums earlier, his one-dimensional play, the risk of KHL bolting--won't be as valuable as we'd really like. That leaves Ebs, RNH, and Hall. And two of the three we basically will not get rid of, no matter how bad things get.

So how DO you make the kind of big trades needed to improve this team in the next 1-4 years, when you basically only have 1.5 tradeable players to use (Ebs & Yak)?

Well McaT better figure out a way then.

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#182 camdog
January 05 2014, 09:41AM
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K_Mart wrote:

Shopping list has been the same ever since Visnovsky was given away and souray was run out of town...

Top veteran d man, top veteran centre who can teach these kids by showing them what to do.

and still we wait...

Visnovsky demanded a trade back to southern California. Tambelini honored the no trade clause, that Lowe ignored.

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#183 Rod from Viking
January 05 2014, 09:49AM
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OIL or NOTHING wrote:

Having read through the comments, I have only 1 question

Where is DSF?

I would prefer to have him around as blog clown over this "Josh Oiler"

He put up a couple of comments one night last week and they were very mild so maybe it wasn't really him.

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#184 Bryzarro World
January 05 2014, 10:43AM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Good points

I’ll concede the Vancouver point, but I’m wondering why the Oilers didn’t three way that deal? What gets me more is MacTavish then went out and got a career back up, a goalie that on his best day wouldn’t be able to compete with Dubnyk.

Why wouldn’t he look for a competent back up to challenge Dubnyk? A quick search just on NHL.com shows at least a half dozen teams the Oilers could trade with prior to the season even starting.

Instead MacTavish reacted late, over paid via UFA for a horrible goalie, and then signed an equally bad goalie again?

The Gagner deal actually is much worse in terms of leverage and tradability, prior to the season starting or the deal itself, Gagner should have been moved, when your average fan knows that your 2C isn’t going to get it done, then signing a guy based on character is by the very definition insane.

The fact that MacTavish was going to pay Clarkson more with longer term & the fact Clarkson choose the Leafs, tells us a couple things.

The Oilers have to grossly overpay for average talent, that free agents despite being thrown huge dollar’s by the Oilers would rather play elsewhere, but the most damning of all, the Oilers would rather whale hunt UFA’s then draft develop and procure talent through scouting & trades, this is the fundamental reason why the Oilers feel into the abyss in the first place, coincidentally under the MacTavish,Lowe,Tambellini era.

Pretty much. Imagine how AWESOME we'd be right now with Heatley and Jagr?........

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#185 Spydyr
January 05 2014, 10:59AM
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K_Mart wrote:

Not sure why anyone expected us to even be a bubble team this year.

We are the youngest team in the league when you average the age of players based on minutes played each night.

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/10/17/are-the-edmonton-oilers-the-youngest-team-in-the-league-or-how-math-shrunk-big-john-scott/

Chicago scores the most and their top 4 forwards are 34,32,25,25 years of age.

Ours are 20,20,22,23. Think about it. Not realistic for fans to expect the smallest, youngest, least physical forward core to actually succeed at this level.

I didn't but I did expect them to try.

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#186 YAKCITY64
January 05 2014, 11:03AM
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michael wrote:

I can't speak for BOB. But do you actually listen to his show. All the time? I do. Whether live or podcast later. He is just as hard on the poor play by the team as anyone else here in Edmonton. The Oilers record is near indefensible.

Where we see whats going on on the ice Bob sees also what is going on off the ice. He cannot report everything he sees and hears. Its incumbent upon him though to report the facts.

I feel for the team right now. Now isn't the time to sharpen the knives. And I much as anyone wish this season had gone different. The results are what they are and going into 2014 we are 29th in the standing. Who would have thought that?

I saw us as 20-23 place team. The needs of this team are glaring. Realignment intothe Pacific Division has shown us what are sorely lacking.

Backin the day the Smythe Division was one of the strongest. Because the Oilers,Flames and Jets all had good teams and competed to be top dog. The Pacific Division has 3 ofthetopdogsin the WC. For the Oilers to be competitive they are going to have a team that has skill,size and not just average goaltending but great goaltending. MacT has a lot of work to do to reshape this team. Eakins has a lot of work to do also. On the ice and off the ice. Eakins has his faults and by goodness when your record is as poor as ours is those faults are just like a spotlight.

I am as frustrated as anyone but when I look at the WC standings and see who is on top I can't help but be a little jealous. But they too paid in terrible season after terrible season.The top dogs did not get there overnight. I want to be Chicago or San Jose or LA. But mistakes in the past 5 years have cost us dearly. Drafting for more size and grit and character is needed. MacT came in last draft and Nurse was our number 1 pick. Moroz number 2.I can't argue those picks. Greg Chase in the 7th round? It will take MacTand Eakins more than just this year and next to get this train wreck moving in the right direction.

Bob Stauffer.... GO AWAY OILERSNATION DOESNT WANT YOU HERE:)

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#187 michael
January 05 2014, 11:05AM
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@Rod in Viking.

Your right about the quality of the veterans that have passed through of late. Though MACT has been better by bringing in Ference and Gordon. IB has been good.Gazdic better than good.

MacT though wasted several contracts this past off season. Including Acton,Grebby and Hamilton and SMACK(who I like but he was never used). He has managed to dump a couple of contracts so far and come this off season should be able to shave 7-10 more. Explain to me how Joensuu was an upgrade on Petrell? who 5x5 was a non factor but was a beast on the PK. JJ has done exactly what? Ryan Jones? the word squat comes to mind. Corey Potter? Even fictional Harry Potter couldn't abracadabra his poor play away. Larsen? Size matters at this level.Especially on defence. Belov? A long way to go.

I would like to see the Oilers part ways with Hemsky. N Shultz and Ryan Smyth. As far as Gagner is concerned he has not shown diddly in the way of defensive zone improvement. Trading him to NJ or to the NYIsles might be the ticket. Arcobello as a stop gap until the summer at 2cd line center is fine by me.

Like we all think and post this team has a long way to go.

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#188 Freewheeling Freddie
January 05 2014, 11:08AM
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All the young kids on this team have heard what this city is like during the playoffs. You know they want to be part of it. I really do feel sorry for some of these kids .The pain in their faces after each loss. It is like there in quicksand with no hope. It has become disgraceful how a team with such history has become the laughing stock of the NHL. Daryl please please please please wake up. Time for drastic change up top .Putting your head in the sand like an ostrich wont cut it.

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#189 Athabascajim
January 05 2014, 11:18AM
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Woogie63 wrote:

Lots of talk of firing Lowe, but WHO replaces him. The President of hockey operations is critical to the vision and the standard for the team for the next ten years. It is one thing to hate on Lowe, but getting the highest quality to replace him may not be that easy.

Maggie the monkey could do a better job than KLowe.

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#190 michael
January 05 2014, 11:26AM
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Athabascajim wrote:

Maggie the monkey could do a better job than KLowe.

I wonder if TSN would let us use Maggie the Monkey on draft day? Can't argue Maggies picks. Did a hell of a job with the playoff picks. I for one think Katz should hire Maggie the Monkey as a special assistant to the GM. Couldn't hurt at this point.Spin that wheel Maggie.

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#191 Rod from Viking
January 05 2014, 11:27AM
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michael wrote:

@Rod in Viking.

Your right about the quality of the veterans that have passed through of late. Though MACT has been better by bringing in Ference and Gordon. IB has been good.Gazdic better than good.

MacT though wasted several contracts this past off season. Including Acton,Grebby and Hamilton and SMACK(who I like but he was never used). He has managed to dump a couple of contracts so far and come this off season should be able to shave 7-10 more. Explain to me how Joensuu was an upgrade on Petrell? who 5x5 was a non factor but was a beast on the PK. JJ has done exactly what? Ryan Jones? the word squat comes to mind. Corey Potter? Even fictional Harry Potter couldn't abracadabra his poor play away. Larsen? Size matters at this level.Especially on defence. Belov? A long way to go.

I would like to see the Oilers part ways with Hemsky. N Shultz and Ryan Smyth. As far as Gagner is concerned he has not shown diddly in the way of defensive zone improvement. Trading him to NJ or to the NYIsles might be the ticket. Arcobello as a stop gap until the summer at 2cd line center is fine by me.

Like we all think and post this team has a long way to go.

Agree, Can a Canadian doctor practice in the U.S. or not? This would have a huge impact on where Sam could go. If this player would have spent a year more in junior and a year or two in the AHL would he be a more complete player? I would think so, the years of being thrown to the wolves and this years broken jaw as well as no one dealing with Kassian and all the problems with this team, I think it has him wanting out and no one could blame him.

I never said Joensuu was an upgrade and Mac T made other signings that didn't work out and they would have been made with input from the pro scouting staff that have not done a good job.

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#192 mnm
January 05 2014, 12:50PM
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is it just me or does anyone else feel that this rebuild is never gonna end

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#193 David S
January 05 2014, 01:46PM
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-30- wrote:

Not to be a pessimist but will this end up like Andrew Cogliano?

Funny how the grass always looks greener elsewhere isn't it?

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"Look at me now bitches."

- Andrew Cogliano after hearing about his new 4 year, $12M contract extension with the Ducks

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#194 rob f
January 05 2014, 02:49PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

I told everyone yesterday!!!

Lindy Ruff was available and the Oilers didn't move!

Brian Burke could have also been had as GM!

MacT: ITS TIME TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON A BLOCKBUSTER DEAL

Sam Gagner and 2014 1st round pick for David Clarkeson.

at least this time you asked for Clarkson and no Shea Weber....

im beging to think youre actually Kevin Low

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#195 outdoorzguy
January 05 2014, 04:04PM
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mnm wrote:

is it just me or does anyone else feel that this rebuild is never gonna end

Wait until Loser Lowe tells us its just beginning all over again!!

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#196 MessyEH
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Forget about a whole line of 1st overalls. The Oilers may be able to ice fwds, D pairing and a goalie of 1st overalls.

Is this how the Islanders fans feel?

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#197 Stall35
January 04 2014, 08:59PM
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HardBoiledOil wrote:

Cogs numbers were mediocre at best his first season with the Ducks, and the previous two with the Oilers. he had a pretty decent year last year in 48 games and is doing roughly the same this year so far. let's not get carried away with the "flourish" stuff until we actually see if he can do it consistently year in and year out.

Well maybe flourished isn't the right word, but he sure is more effective and consistent than what we've got.

The ducks certainly appreciate what he does with rewarding him an extension and at this point, I must say their management ate more "in the know" than ours.

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#198 Rod from Viking
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@Serious Gord

Gord, another way another team may look at is almost every player the Oiler's have traded lately has been far better on the next team. With the cap they will have to take back another contract that may be deemed excessive but maybe that player will fit in better here,do you feel the Oil management is starting to feel the heat?

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#199 Cynic
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Either the Oilers are taking back a similarly useless player with a similarly outrageous salary (and contract length) or the Oilers are topping up the deal with a pick. In any city where the media weren't completely nut-gobblers for team management, they'd be writing colummns about how Gagner should be a buyout candidate. In other words: all cost, no return.

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#200 Serious Gord
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Woogie63 wrote:

Lots of talk of firing Lowe, but WHO replaces him. The President of hockey operations is critical to the vision and the standard for the team for the next ten years. It is one thing to hate on Lowe, but getting the highest quality to replace him may not be that easy.

There are plenty of candidates out there. The list begins but does not end with every GM in the nhl. Jetissoning Lowe now gives a search team several months to find the best of the bunch.

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