Who should be on the Team Canada Olympic Hockey Roster?

Jonathan Willis
January 04 2014 09:32AM

Four years ago, the Canadian men’s hockey team won gold in Vancouver. On Tuesday, the 2014 team that will try to match that result in Sochi will be named. Who should be on it?

My Roster

The depth chart above is my list of 14 forwards, eight defencemen and three goalies. I don’t think this group will be named, but it is the 25-man roster that I think gives Canada the best shot at winning gold. The grey line at the bottom is the list of alternate players in case injury strikes prior to the games.

The roster itself was picked without attempting to match players with teammates, but the line combinations are an attempt to get as much benefit of that familiarity as possible – and there is a surprising amount of it. Patrick Sharp/Jonathan Toews anchor one line, Ryan Getzlaf/Corey Perry another and Joe Thornton/Patrick Marleau another still (though I could also easily see that duo falling to 13/14 in favour of Duchene/Bergeron).

On defence, the right side and Duncan Keith were all basically impossible to ignore (sorry, Brent Seabrook). I really like all four left-side defenders I’ve plugged in here behind Keith and there are plenty of other arrangements that could be used. I saw Keith/Doughty as the top all-situations pair, Hamhuis/Weber as a shutdown unit, Vlasic/Subban as a nicely balanced third pair and given that Bouwmeester and Pietrangelo play together in St. Louis it seemed a shame to break them up (though it was awfully tempting to sub Giordano in for Bouwmeester).

In net, Roberto Luongo and Carey Price are both going to play in the round robin part of the tournament, and whoever looks hot coming out of it can start the elimination games. The third-string position could go to any of half a dozen guys; I picked Mike Smith mostly because if something happens during the tournament I prefer a veteran as a plug-in backup over someone like Jonathan Bernier or Braden Holtby or James Reimer. Corey Crawford and Cam Ward have both had bad seasons, and while Marc-Andre Fleury has been good this year his history in pressure situations leaves me leery. Realistically, though, it’s not a spot I’m antsy about.

Up front, Jamie Benn was a hard, hard guy to leave off the roster. Honestly, the left wing is Canada’s weakest forward position and the gap between the top natural winger on the depth chart (Patrick Sharp) and a guy I didn’t even name (Benn) is smaller for me than the gap between Martin St. Louis and Rick Nash.

Since this is published at Oilers Nation, I should point out I was an ardent Taylor Hall supporter in the summer but I think he’s played his way off the team. Jordan Eberle deserved some consideration but hasn’t played well enough to unseat anybody at right wing – his offence isn’t irresistible and given that his defensive deficiencies are a real problem.

That’s my take. Doubtless the comments section will have its own views.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 D
January 04 2014, 09:42AM
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JW - build a team to win. Yours is built to win. Someday the Oiler stars should make the team, but not this year.

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#2 Kr55
January 04 2014, 09:43AM
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Agree with your team. That team should be able to win against any other IF thr goaltending does it's part. Lou was good enough last time and I really hope he is again.

For Hall. I don't blame him that much fir these last 2 games. He is on an awful team that plays an awful system. I'm just concerned if the lightbulb turn on in his head that makes him realize he might get 0 playoff experience and still be stuck on a terrible team when decisions are being made for the next Olympics. Our inept management lead by Lowe might play a part in him missing Another great career opportunity. Will something like this finally make him stop and realize what a dead end team he is stuck on and have him ask for a trade?

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#3 RexHolez
January 04 2014, 09:58AM
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I'd play Duchene and have sharp as the extra

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#4 Oilers4ever
January 04 2014, 10:04AM
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Halls playing at damn near a point a game (well more than some guys you have on it) and faster than pretty much every guy on it and you say he's played himself off it. Can I please have some of the koolaid you are drinking. You're gone and whacked in the head. He's the only frigging oiler who gives a crap for god sakes. Moron.

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#5 Steven
January 04 2014, 10:08AM
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Nash? E.staal? No way Thornton would be on my team he was avg in Vancouver and will be worse on big ice. I would love to see the toews Richards Nash line reunited but doubt Richards makes the team

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#6 Chet134
January 04 2014, 10:19AM
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Oilers4ever wrote:

Halls playing at damn near a point a game (well more than some guys you have on it) and faster than pretty much every guy on it and you say he's played himself off it. Can I please have some of the koolaid you are drinking. You're gone and whacked in the head. He's the only frigging oiler who gives a crap for god sakes. Moron.

How has Hall play the last three games against the heavier teams or even the heavier teams this year. How did Hall play at the world championships last may. He got benched. It's easy to look good against the bottom feeders. This is team Canada and ur playing against the best. So u evaluate him against the best players in the league and then select. For me good player but not ready yet. Maybe take him and he doesn't dress unless someone gets hurt. He ll learn a lot.

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#7 S cottV
January 04 2014, 10:22AM
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@Oilers4ever

Only way to consider him is as a top 6 forward and he is not there.

Has the speed to be a Team Canada role player but not the head for a 2 way game, at the world level.

I mean c'mon - he gets confused vs the Ducks - let alone Russia, USA and Sweden....

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#8 Batfink
January 04 2014, 10:22AM
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How the h e double hockey sticks has Hall played himself off the team when he was never a lock to be on it? He's a point a game on a terrible team, and a better LEFT WINGER than anybody on your roster. My concern is that if he ever dares to ask about his future on with the Oilers, he will be demonized as a quitter. I'm starting to want this kid to go to a professionally run franchise, as much as it pains me to say that about our best player. And what about the saying "what have you done for me lately?" There's a few players on your roster that don't have hot hands at the moment. Pandering to a "he'll come good" narrative over the corgis? Isn't that a sin these days?

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#9 **
January 04 2014, 10:31AM
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They will probably name Kunitz tot he team, just because of the whole chemistry thing with CRosby. I think Phaneuf is going to be on the team as well, hard to see Team Canada not include Tany player from the leafs. Wow, Jordan Eberle is listed at 5'10 on the team canada orientation roster. No matter who they choose on D, Canada is going to have a sick, sick back end.

Jonathan, did you leave Lucic out because you think he is not fast enough for the big ice?. I stil think he should be on the team, he has a unique set of skills that could come in handy, specially on a tied game, the guy know how to be a shutdown guy.

I haven't seen the Staal brothers play much this season, are they playing poorly?

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#10 WTF
January 04 2014, 10:40AM
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The only change I would make would be to replace Babcock with Eakins.

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#11 27Ginge
January 04 2014, 10:42AM
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Nash with Toews and Sharp. Giroux on the fourth line. St. Louis off the team and Benn way ahead of Staal and Duchene.

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#12 Evilas
January 04 2014, 10:56AM
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Jonathan,

I think your list will be pretty close, but I don't think Giordano makes it, even if he should (I don't know who it might be, but I think Boyle).

I think they will add Kunitz given his experience with the Pens and Ducks, plus comments from the management team about how he was in the top 10 scorers when Crosby was out. He'll be in over St. Louis (who I don't think should make the team).

I would like to see Benn over Nash.

I don't understand the love-in with Luongo, Reimer should be on this team over him. But you are likely bang-on with the goaltenders.

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#13 Randy
January 04 2014, 10:59AM
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JW,

Do you think Jonathan Bernier has a chance to be the #3 goalie?

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#17 LOIL99
January 04 2014, 11:05AM
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If you want vet backup for Price/Lou, then how could you not mention Brodeur? Smith is Bryz 2.0, looks really good under PHO system but average goalie at best. What more does Brodeur have to win to be the next best vet available?

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#18 Hockey fan 1976
January 04 2014, 11:08AM
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@WTF

Omg!!! Lol. Thank you for making my week. I haven't laughed this hard in awhile. I can see it now. Crosby calls a time out and tells Eakins to shut his mouth and hit the showers. KBlow is waiting for him in there and tells him not to worry cause Crosby actually knows " a thing or two about winning if there's ever any doubt". Eakins stops crying and let's KBlow "console" him [wink wink]

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#19 albertabeef
January 04 2014, 11:09AM
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Couture - Crosby - Stamkos Benn - Tavares - Nash Sharp - Toews - Duchesne A.Ladd - Getzlaf - Perry

Giroux - Bergeron

Keith - Doughty Vlasic - Weber Bowmeister - Pietrangelo Subban - Seabrook

Price - Luongo - Dubnyk..(ha!)M.Smith

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#20 Chet134
January 04 2014, 11:09AM
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Seabrook has to be on the team. Top 40 in points in the league, top five amongst defenseman, plus 21, played four years ago, two time Stanley cup winner, Chicago is on top of the league. No fluke. He's a winner to me. Book it

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#21 LOIL99
January 04 2014, 11:11AM
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Evilas wrote:

Jonathan,

I think your list will be pretty close, but I don't think Giordano makes it, even if he should (I don't know who it might be, but I think Boyle).

I think they will add Kunitz given his experience with the Pens and Ducks, plus comments from the management team about how he was in the top 10 scorers when Crosby was out. He'll be in over St. Louis (who I don't think should make the team).

I would like to see Benn over Nash.

I don't understand the love-in with Luongo, Reimer should be on this team over him. But you are likely bang-on with the goaltenders.

You say you don't understand why people want the goalie who was starter for last gold medal win,then say Reimer, a backup on the Leafs,should be in?? Wow. Just wow.

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#22 Kr55
January 04 2014, 11:12AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

I say he's played his way off my team.

A year ago, Hall was an offensive dynamo who also drove scoring chances and shots. I thought he should have without question been an Olympian.

This year he's still an offensive dynamo but the scoring chances and shots have taken a sharp turn for the worse. I'll take a guy with defensive problems if he creates more than he gives up, but Hall simply hasn't been doing that this year the way he did in the past.

That's my view. You are welcome to have a different one.

Eakins has said multiple times that he thinks Hall's game has have major improvements this year even though his Corsi rating is in the toilet. Looks like Hall trying to follow a flawed game plan is at least partially to blame for the change in his possession numbers.

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#23 Dog Train
January 04 2014, 11:14AM
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I like that team but I would probably have Benn in there before Couture although I am a Couture fan. This is the toughest team to make in all of hockey, there is no shame in Taylor Hall not making it at age 22. I would agree that he has played his way off of the team and others have played their way onto it.

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#24 Fossil
January 04 2014, 11:24AM
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I don't think Hall should have ever been considered. Anybody who watches him play and understands more than just stats, can see he is still playing as an individual. It is not his fault as that is how the top 2 lines on this team are. Goals are only scored by great individual effort or a couple of passes that happened to click. I see evidence of attempting to enter the zone with some type of known play, but rarely. In the SJ game Hall fired the puck around the boards to Perron who was breaking in and then Hall went to the net for a very good setup and offensive chance. I almost fell out of my chair. Unfortunately that was it for that line. And speaking of Perron, is it just me or does he look like he is starting to give up. The energy he showed before Christmas is not there.

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#25 Devolution
January 04 2014, 11:26AM
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Off topic guys, but does anyone have a streaming link to the Junior game?

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#26 GTL
January 04 2014, 11:28AM
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We will be golden, as kev has input!... Seriously, does he "swagger "in those meetings or skulk? How can he have any credibility amongst his peers?

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#27 Kr55
January 04 2014, 11:40AM
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@Fossil

Perron is forgetting all of his learning from his previous team and becoming a true Oiler. I was worried that it would happen to him like it does all players that come to the Oilers and play really well and then get absorbed into the big ball of suck that is the Oilers.

There are bad teams, and then there are the Oilers. No other team allows a guy like Lowe to stay at the top through so many years of terrible performance. Katz is spitting on all of sports history by thinking this team will magically just turn things around without a wholesale management change.

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#28 MessyEH
January 04 2014, 12:00PM
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/29/sports/hockey/unexpectedly-an-aging-jagr-is-playing-like-the-jagr-of-old.html?hpw=&rref=sports&he

Oilers should have offered Jagr 6 million to come here. This is the type of man the kids should want to be.

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#30 Spydyr
January 04 2014, 12:10PM
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Drouin!!!!

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#31 Smokey
January 04 2014, 12:14PM
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I would find a way to have a few of Nash, Penner, Benn, Lucic on my team. Bigger is better. Lucic and Benn to me are locks. Lucic may not be the most graceful player, but he's a gamer and is arguably one of the grittiest players in the game. You don't leave that at home. Frankly I don't think Duschene has played his way on the team. We don't need another center. I'd leave Giroux at home to as in my opinion he has played his way off the team.

If Seguin was a better character player he would be there, and Hall is getting screwed for a poor start when he played outta position. Remove there first few games his plus minus is not horrifying. His last 10 games he has removed some of the stupid plays. The whole Ruff benching Hall was a bullheaded coach playing struggling forwards with track record over a guy who I admit made a couple bad TO's. He was still better then half the teams veterans who were getting the push. I watched a couple games and Ruff stapled him to bench and played veterans and ultimately Ruff cost Canada that tourney. Most people concur Ruff did a crap job, and Hall is labelled because of it. Him and Duschene were a bad line cause both players handle the puck a lot.

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#32 Spydyr
January 04 2014, 12:20PM
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Smokey wrote:

I would find a way to have a few of Nash, Penner, Benn, Lucic on my team. Bigger is better. Lucic and Benn to me are locks. Lucic may not be the most graceful player, but he's a gamer and is arguably one of the grittiest players in the game. You don't leave that at home. Frankly I don't think Duschene has played his way on the team. We don't need another center. I'd leave Giroux at home to as in my opinion he has played his way off the team.

If Seguin was a better character player he would be there, and Hall is getting screwed for a poor start when he played outta position. Remove there first few games his plus minus is not horrifying. His last 10 games he has removed some of the stupid plays. The whole Ruff benching Hall was a bullheaded coach playing struggling forwards with track record over a guy who I admit made a couple bad TO's. He was still better then half the teams veterans who were getting the push. I watched a couple games and Ruff stapled him to bench and played veterans and ultimately Ruff cost Canada that tourney. Most people concur Ruff did a crap job, and Hall is labelled because of it. Him and Duschene were a bad line cause both players handle the puck a lot.

In the NHL I agree with you bigger is better.

At the Olympic level especially on the big ice skating would be my number one priority . Therefore Nash, Penner and Lucic would not be on my team.

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#33 Gerry
January 04 2014, 12:23PM
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Hall is not getting screwed by the selection committee. He is getting screwed by the Oilers. He does not play a 200 ft game.

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#34 Smokey
January 04 2014, 12:26PM
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Chet134 wrote:

Seabrook has to be on the team. Top 40 in points in the league, top five amongst defenseman, plus 21, played four years ago, two time Stanley cup winner, Chicago is on top of the league. No fluke. He's a winner to me. Book it

Him and Keith are a pair...you don't mess with a two time Stanley Cup formula. My top pair is Keith Seabrook, and then Weber Doughty, and Peter and Bo, Subban is my seventh. It doesn't get much better then that.

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#35 Loyal Oil
January 04 2014, 12:31PM
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Oil management cost Hall a shot at team Canada by hiring an absolute joke of a coach and by failing to build anything close to a playoff team. If I'm Hall I don't sit around watching my career go up in smoke much longer just so Lowe and Eakins can run their ego trips. Public trade request coming. Sad day/era for Oil fans.

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#36 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
January 04 2014, 12:32PM
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is hamhuis mobile enough?

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#37 Smokey
January 04 2014, 12:32PM
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Gerry wrote:

Hall is not getting screwed by the selection committee. He is getting screwed by the Oilers. He does not play a 200 ft game.

Hall is screwed cause their backend is horrible. Great players cause TO, and the reality is his mistakes are magnified by goalies who stink and the worst and smallest defence in the league.

This 200 foot nonsense is because Ruff benched him for a couple TO but ignored the fact his veterans sucked and gave them rope.

I don't care if Kane, Ovechkin, Malkin, Tavaras, Hall, Stamkos are called deficient defensive players, they score. Hall has eliminated a lot of the stupid plays lately, and no one gives him credit.

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#38 Smokey
January 04 2014, 12:43PM
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Spydyr wrote:

In the NHL I agree with you bigger is better.

At the Olympic level especially on the big ice skating would be my number one priority . Therefore Nash, Penner and Lucic would not be on my team.

Nash is terrific skater.

Penner is slow starter, but makes up for being a good possession player, and sound positionally.

Lucic is not the greatest skater, but is there anyone who brings the tangibles and intangibles like Lucic. He doesn't hurt you in any way, other then fighting to many fourth line tweeners and grinders. Play him on your fourth line, he should be there.

This may be a bad example, but so be it. Esposito could not skate like todays players, watch him in his Bruins and New York days. Against a fast mobile team like the Russians he never looked outta place and scored a plethora of points. None of these player mentioned above are like Espo, but big players are possession players on any ice. You can fix perceived liabilities with linemates with different core strengths. I'd have a tough time keeping Lucic off Crosby's wing in the tourney, but that's just me.

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#39 KLowe
January 04 2014, 12:45PM
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If I was choosing, Taylor Hall would be on the team... if ever there was a concern.

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#40 Chet134
January 04 2014, 12:46PM
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Smokey wrote:

Hall is screwed cause their backend is horrible. Great players cause TO, and the reality is his mistakes are magnified by goalies who stink and the worst and smallest defence in the league.

This 200 foot nonsense is because Ruff benched him for a couple TO but ignored the fact his veterans sucked and gave them rope.

I don't care if Kane, Ovechkin, Malkin, Tavaras, Hall, Stamkos are called deficient defensive players, they score. Hall has eliminated a lot of the stupid plays lately, and no one gives him credit.

I see where ur coming from however makin, Ovy, stamkos, Kane have won Stanley cups, scoring titles, over 40 goals, MVP of the playoffs, etc . Tavares can play centre and can play the wing. Hall is good but does he fit in the category of these players. I bet the selection committee will ask each other can they trust TH in a gold metal game. Not yet too young. Needs more time. By far am I bashing TH.

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#41 Spydyr
January 04 2014, 12:46PM
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Smokey wrote:

Nash is terrific skater.

Penner is slow starter, but makes up for being a good possession player, and sound positionally.

Lucic is not the greatest skater, but is there anyone who brings the tangibles and intangibles like Lucic. He doesn't hurt you in any way, other then fighting to many fourth line tweeners and grinders. Play him on your fourth line, he should be there.

This may be a bad example, but so be it. Esposito could not skate like todays players, watch him in his Bruins and New York days. Against a fast mobile team like the Russians he never looked outta place and scored a plethora of points. None of these player mentioned above are like Espo, but big players are possession players on any ice. You can fix perceived liabilities with linemates with different core strengths. I'd have a tough time keeping Lucic off Crosby's wing in the tourney, but that's just me.

Nash was a terrific skater . The last few times I saw him play it appears as he has lost a step.

He is also in the Penner realm of not playing as hard as he should many games.

That just my opinion though.

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#42 Randaman
January 04 2014, 12:57PM
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I hate to say it but there will be no repeat for Canada. I have a non medal feeling. Russia is going to be very motivated and healthy, rested (Malkin). Not being unpatriotic here but there are four teams that could knock us out at anytime. Stay classy Canada! Oh, FIRE LOWE!!!

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#43 Randaman
January 04 2014, 01:01PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Nash was a terrific skater . The last few times I saw him play it appears as he has lost a step.

He is also in the Penner realm of not playing as hard as he should many games.

That just my opinion though.

I don't really think motivation is a factor at the Oylimpics. Every player selected will be doing everything in their power to have their "A" game

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#44 15w40
January 04 2014, 01:12PM
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@Oilers4ever

Did you post this while wearing your octane suit. There is no Oilers player that should be on team Canada.

I get that you can't fly with eagles when you are surrounded by turkeys but when picking a roster of 13 or 14 forwards, nobody on the Oilers roster is in that rarefied air.

I think I put Bernier ahead of Smith but really the 3rd goaltender is likely not going to get out of his suit.

Somehow I try to get St Louis on Stamkos' line

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#45 Spydyr
January 04 2014, 01:15PM
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Randaman wrote:

I don't really think motivation is a factor at the Oylimpics. Every player selected will be doing everything in their power to have their "A" game

Well that goes without saying.What I was getting at was taking games off is a sign of a players character or lack there of.

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#46 Batfink
January 04 2014, 01:21PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

I say he's played his way off my team.

A year ago, Hall was an offensive dynamo who also drove scoring chances and shots. I thought he should have without question been an Olympian.

This year he's still an offensive dynamo but the scoring chances and shots have taken a sharp turn for the worse. I'll take a guy with defensive problems if he creates more than he gives up, but Hall simply hasn't been doing that this year the way he did in the past.

That's my view. You are welcome to have a different one.

aren't scoring chances and shots (somewhat) dependent on the team and system played?

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#47 Dan 1919
January 04 2014, 01:32PM
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Willis, you are way off here.

Couture moving to an unnatural LW w/33 points in 41 games is that good defensively that he unseats a natural LW Taylor Hall w/39 points in 37 games? I don’t think so.

But here is the most likely scenario... a natural LW who was 7th in NHL scoring last year and who is 4th in NHL scoring right now will... believe it or not... make team Canada. Not because who he plays with but because he has been a star player over the last 91 games. Chris Kunitz

Not saying Couture or Hall will be on the team, but if one of them is needed there for LW it will be Hall.

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#48 Zarny
January 04 2014, 01:36PM
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Smokey wrote:

I would find a way to have a few of Nash, Penner, Benn, Lucic on my team. Bigger is better. Lucic and Benn to me are locks. Lucic may not be the most graceful player, but he's a gamer and is arguably one of the grittiest players in the game. You don't leave that at home. Frankly I don't think Duschene has played his way on the team. We don't need another center. I'd leave Giroux at home to as in my opinion he has played his way off the team.

If Seguin was a better character player he would be there, and Hall is getting screwed for a poor start when he played outta position. Remove there first few games his plus minus is not horrifying. His last 10 games he has removed some of the stupid plays. The whole Ruff benching Hall was a bullheaded coach playing struggling forwards with track record over a guy who I admit made a couple bad TO's. He was still better then half the teams veterans who were getting the push. I watched a couple games and Ruff stapled him to bench and played veterans and ultimately Ruff cost Canada that tourney. Most people concur Ruff did a crap job, and Hall is labelled because of it. Him and Duschene were a bad line cause both players handle the puck a lot.

On international ice bigger is not better.

Faster is better. Lucic doesn't go to Sochi any day of the week. He simply isn't a good enough skater.

On NHL ice he makes the team every day of the week.

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#49 Athabascajim
January 04 2014, 01:46PM
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Oilers4ever wrote:

Halls playing at damn near a point a game (well more than some guys you have on it) and faster than pretty much every guy on it and you say he's played himself off it. Can I please have some of the koolaid you are drinking. You're gone and whacked in the head. He's the only frigging oiler who gives a crap for god sakes. Moron.

Hall -7 in California this week. Not ready yet for prime time. Defensive liability. We saw it in the world's last spring too.

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January 04 2014, 01:51PM
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Athabascajim wrote:

Hall -7 in California this week. Not ready yet for prime time. Defensive liability. We saw it in the world's last spring too.

Same worlds he made less turnovers than Giroux and Duchene? I don't believe it's a conspiracy, but the perception of Hall by Hockey Canada is way off. Ruff played him like he'd play a guy he'd been TOLD to take but didn't want to.

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