ROCK BOTTOM: WAITING ON THE BOUNCE

Robin Brownlee
January 05 2014 03:19PM

When a team hits rock bottom in the standings like the Edmonton Oilers have twice since the NHL lockout of 2004-05, the silver lining for fans is the expectation short-term pain will result in long-term gain and that the team will eventually pick itself up off the floor.

After seven straight years out of the playoffs, soon to be eight, the Oilers, as everybody is acutely aware, have been selling that hope to the faithful folks who buy their tickets and jerseys for years now – the bounce off the bottom, a rise back to respectability and playoff contention.

If you look at teams that have hit the bottom of that elevator shaft in the eight seasons since the lockout – I'm leaving out the Florida Panthers, who finished 30th overall in 2012-13 because we don't know where they'll finish this season -- the expectation better times are ahead isn't unfounded.

Except for fans of the Oilers, of course, who've looked on as their team has gone from being Stanley Cup finalists in 2006 to finishing 2009-10 and 2011-12 dead-last, where they have pretty much stayed.

Where's the bounce?

LONG WAY DOWN

Here's a look at the teams that have finished 30th since the lockout and where they've finished in NHL overall standings in subsequent seasons.

2005-06: ST. LOUIS BLUES 21-46-15 for 57 points

  • 2006-07: 34-35-13 for 79 points – 22nd
  • 2007-08: 33-36-13 for 79 points – 27th
  • 2008-09: 41-31-10 for 92 points – 15th
  • 2009-10: 40-32-10 for 90 points – 15th
  • 2010-11: 38-33-11 for 87 points – 20th
  • 2011-12: 49-22-11 for 109 points – 3rd
  • 2012-13: 29-17-2 for 60 points – 6th

2006-07: PHILADELPHIA FLYERS 22-48-12 for 56 points

  • 2007-08: 42-29-11 for 95 points – 11th
  • 2008-09: 44-27-11 for 99 points – 9th
  • 2009-10: 41-35-6 for 88 points – 18th
  • 2010-11: 47-23-12 for 106 points – 3rd
  • 2011-12: 47-26-9 for 103 points – 6th
  • 2012-13: 23-22-3 for 49 points – 20th

2007-08: TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING 31-42-9 for 71 points

  • 2008-09: 24-40-18 for 66 points – 29th
  • 2009-10: 34-36-12 for 80 points – 25th
  • 2010-11: 46-25-11 for 103 points – 8th
  • 2011-12: 38-36-8 for 84 points – 21st
  • 2012-13: 18-26-4 for 40 points – 28th

2008-09: NEW YORK ISLANDERS 26-47-9 for 61 points

  • 2009-10: 34-37-11 for 79 points – 26th
  • 2010-11: 30-39-13 for 73 points – 27th
  • 2011-12: 34-37-11 for 79 points – 27th
  • 2012-13: 24-17-7 for 55 points – 16th

2009-10: EDMONTON OILERS 27-47-8 for 62 points

  • 2010-11: 25-45-12 for 62 points – 30th
  • 2011-12: 32-40-10 for 74 points – 29th
  • 2012-13: 19-22-7 for 45 points – 24th

2011-12: COLUMBUS BLUE JACKETS 29-46-7 for 65 points

  • 2012-13: 24-17-7 for 55 points – 17th

THIS ABOUT THAT . . .

Philadelphia's last-place finish was a blip on the radar as they enjoyed the biggest bounce in a season after finishing 30th when they improved by 39 points. St. Louis is next with a 24-point improvement. The Blues best season since finishing last is 109 points, an improvement of 52 points. Philly is next with a 50-point jump in 2010-11.

Coming into this season, the Flyers have made the playoffs in four of six seasons since finishing 30th. The Blues have made it in three of seven seasons. Even Tampa Bay and the Islanders, who have floundered almost as badly as the Oilers, have made the playoffs once each, and the Bolts are poised to get in again this season.

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#101 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 07:26PM
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RexHolez wrote:

ignore previous statement. someone is falsifying facts.

Imitation is the best form of flattery, my life's goals are now fulfilled

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#102 steelymac
January 05 2014, 07:26PM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

Yes I will take that Oilers Account Number

Joshy you do realize you will have to take on 3 more paper routs and shovel way more driveways to pull that off right?

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#103 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 07:34PM
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Imitation is the best form of flattery, my life's goals are now fulfilled

If only Lowe drafted Cory Schneider instead of Rob Schremp, the oilers wouldnt be tied 3-3 right now. Taylor Hall will never make the olympic team because Kevin Lowe ruined him already.

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#104 Slats
January 05 2014, 07:34PM
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Bolts tieing goal- another shift of players chasing the puck around, slow footed Smytty gets stuck in no mans land and in!... . shaping up to be MV(Moral Victory)Win!!

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#105 Gerald R. Ford
January 05 2014, 07:35PM
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@reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)

In other words, he's the perfect guy to run a business.

Look, don't mistake my admiration for his money-making skills for me liking the guy, personally. Does he have the personality of a greasy used car salesman? Maybe, I don't know him. He brings in the Benjamins, and, so long as he does, Daryl Katz doesn't give a damn what any of us think about the hockey side of the operation. LaForge's success, whether we like it or not, whether you give him credit for it or not, is the biggest impediment to any widespread organizational change. That's the salient point.

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#106 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 07:36PM
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If only Lowe drafted Cory Schneider instead of Rob Schremp, the oilers wouldnt be tied 3-3 right now. Taylor Hall will never make the olympic team because Kevin Lowe ruined him already.

Remember that trade Kevin Lowe made to get rid of Eric Brewer???? Knuckle head move getting rid of such a solid d-man! Ban Lowe!

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#107 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 07:36PM
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RexHolez wrote:

If only Lowe drafted Cory Schneider instead of Rob Schremp, the oilers wouldnt be tied 3-3 right now. Taylor Hall will never make the olympic team because Kevin Lowe ruined him already.

If only MacT knew he didn't want Smid when Ottawa was trading Bishop

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#108 Cold Hard Truth
January 05 2014, 07:36PM
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You know what amazes me? After all this miserable losing, not one Edmonton journalist/media member has the nerve to call out Kevin Lowe or Craig MacTavish (with the slight exception of Robin Brownlee).

Also, I just heard Stauffer say that MacTavish should not trade his 1st overall pick for help, and that it is on the team to perform. Really, Bob? What is MacTavish's job, then, if it is not to help the team?

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#109 6 ring circus
January 05 2014, 07:38PM
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There's a Kevin Lowe has to go page on Facebook ,it was started 2 hours ago and it has over 1200 likes,let's get this page to over 100,000 like's and see if the Oilers start paying attention.

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#110 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 07:39PM
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Remember that trade Kevin Lowe made to get rid of Eric Brewer???? Knuckle head move getting rid of such a solid d-man! Ban Lowe!

Haha this is fun. Brewer's no stud, but he'd be the best Dman on this team

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#111 2ndteir
January 05 2014, 07:39PM
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Cold Hard Truth wrote:

You know what amazes me? After all this miserable losing, not one Edmonton journalist/media member has the nerve to call out Kevin Lowe or Craig MacTavish (with the slight exception of Robin Brownlee).

Also, I just heard Stauffer say that MacTavish should not trade his 1st overall pick for help, and that it is on the team to perform. Really, Bob? What is MacTavish's job, then, if it is not to help the team?

Agree. But why are you listening to the game? Its on TV?

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#112 Bryzarro World
January 05 2014, 07:40PM
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PLAY BAD FOR EKBLAD

Enough already!

And change your pic. It's more annoying than Samwise chewing on his guard...

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#113 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 07:42PM
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RexHolez wrote:

Remember that trade Kevin Lowe made to get rid of Eric Brewer???? Knuckle head move getting rid of such a solid d-man! Ban Lowe!

Remember when Kevin Lowe helped out the Christmas Bureau that one time? What a loser.

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#114 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 07:48PM
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RexHolez wrote:

Remember when Kevin Lowe helped out the Christmas Bureau that one time? What a loser.

Remember when Lowe wore socks with his sandals? douchebag

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#115 Gerald R. Ford
January 05 2014, 07:49PM
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@Serious Gord

Apple HAD a monopoly, and it was eroded. THAT'S the point. It takes the right person, with the right plan, at the right time to make a business successful. You don't rest on your laurels, and you don't just make money on a brand. If you're a successful businessman, you should know that there's no luck involved. It's hard work, preparation, and constant learning and adaptation. A legacy only gets you so far.

Gord, considering how much of your life you waste plaguing us and the Edmonton airwaves with your incessant, epic whining, I have a pretty good idea you're not running a Fortune 500 company. Or maybe you have a dim-witted lackey running it for you whilst you're gracing us with your insights?

Now, THAT would totally validate your theory, in which case, I humbly apologize! A pox upon me for a clumsy lout, sir.

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#116 bulldog12
January 05 2014, 07:50PM
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RexHolez wrote:

Holy hell you blind faith jock sniffers are annoying

So which one are you of the last sentence. Stupid, like complaining or reading the same dumb repetitive comments??

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#117 bulldog12
January 05 2014, 07:50PM
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Holy hell you blind faith jock sniffers are annoying

So which one are you of the last sentence. Stupid, like complaining or reading the same dumb repetitive comments??

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#118 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 07:54PM
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So which one are you of the last sentence. Stupid, like complaining or reading the same dumb repetitive comments??

Well I'm the one that trashed your comment and I'm also the one that blames everything on Lowe right down to the type of sock tape Jeff Petry wears. So quit making douche bag statements and check your spelling.

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#119 Serious Gord
January 05 2014, 07:54PM
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Gerald R. Ford wrote:

Apple HAD a monopoly, and it was eroded. THAT'S the point. It takes the right person, with the right plan, at the right time to make a business successful. You don't rest on your laurels, and you don't just make money on a brand. If you're a successful businessman, you should know that there's no luck involved. It's hard work, preparation, and constant learning and adaptation. A legacy only gets you so far.

Gord, considering how much of your life you waste plaguing us and the Edmonton airwaves with your incessant, epic whining, I have a pretty good idea you're not running a Fortune 500 company. Or maybe you have a dim-witted lackey running it for you whilst you're gracing us with your insights?

Now, THAT would totally validate your theory, in which case, I humbly apologize! A pox upon me for a clumsy lout, sir.

Apple has never had a monopoly in any of its endeavors. In the halcyon days of the personal computer they maybe got to 20%. The "I"s - pods, phones etc have never had much more than that.

Meanwhile Edmonton has the contractual monopoly for nhl level hockey in this region and the Katz group owns the only other pro hockey team in the area. Now that's a monopoly.

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#120 Serious Gord
January 05 2014, 07:57PM
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Gerald R. Ford wrote:

Apple HAD a monopoly, and it was eroded. THAT'S the point. It takes the right person, with the right plan, at the right time to make a business successful. You don't rest on your laurels, and you don't just make money on a brand. If you're a successful businessman, you should know that there's no luck involved. It's hard work, preparation, and constant learning and adaptation. A legacy only gets you so far.

Gord, considering how much of your life you waste plaguing us and the Edmonton airwaves with your incessant, epic whining, I have a pretty good idea you're not running a Fortune 500 company. Or maybe you have a dim-witted lackey running it for you whilst you're gracing us with your insights?

Now, THAT would totally validate your theory, in which case, I humbly apologize! A pox upon me for a clumsy lout, sir.

And no, I don't work for a fortune five hundred company, but I do retail products for some of the largest insurance companies in the world and consult to them on marketing initiatives in western Canada and the country as a whole.

Oh!! And thanks for listening and reading!!

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#121 Bryzarro World
January 05 2014, 07:58PM
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Gerald R. Ford wrote:

Apple HAD a monopoly, and it was eroded. THAT'S the point. It takes the right person, with the right plan, at the right time to make a business successful. You don't rest on your laurels, and you don't just make money on a brand. If you're a successful businessman, you should know that there's no luck involved. It's hard work, preparation, and constant learning and adaptation. A legacy only gets you so far.

Gord, considering how much of your life you waste plaguing us and the Edmonton airwaves with your incessant, epic whining, I have a pretty good idea you're not running a Fortune 500 company. Or maybe you have a dim-witted lackey running it for you whilst you're gracing us with your insights?

Now, THAT would totally validate your theory, in which case, I humbly apologize! A pox upon me for a clumsy lout, sir.

You're out to lunch....

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#122 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 07:59PM
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So which one are you of the last sentence. Stupid, like complaining or reading the same dumb repetitive comments??

And I'm the original in all his glorious glory. Now go learn how to construct sentences

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#123 Batfink
January 05 2014, 07:59PM
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Cold Hard Truth wrote:

You know what amazes me? After all this miserable losing, not one Edmonton journalist/media member has the nerve to call out Kevin Lowe or Craig MacTavish (with the slight exception of Robin Brownlee).

Also, I just heard Stauffer say that MacTavish should not trade his 1st overall pick for help, and that it is on the team to perform. Really, Bob? What is MacTavish's job, then, if it is not to help the team?

Read between the lines. Bob is an employee of the oilers. He's preparing us for the fact that nothing is going to happen. He just repeats what he hears in a way that seems like his opinion.

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#124 Batfink
January 05 2014, 08:00PM
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We've even stopped the GDBs.

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#125 Arius Mumin
January 05 2014, 08:06PM
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The Oilers top-line skates with the urgency of a shinny game.

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#126 Arius Mumin
January 05 2014, 08:09PM
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I don't understand why people keep complaining that the Oilers are run by the boys club: when most of the NHL is run by boys club. If you want to bring them into the picture; Hockey Canada and Hockey USA are the same as the above.

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#127 Gerald R. Ford
January 05 2014, 08:10PM
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@Serious Gord

Apple dominated the academic and creative markets for years. If you were a teacher in the late 70s or throughout the 80s, you had an Apple computer. If you were a designer, you had an Apple computer.

If you don't buy that one, ever hear of Canada Post? How many years even BEFORE email and UPS did they run massive deficits?

I don't know what else to say, Gord. If you really think any random idiot can generate that much revenue simply based on having an allegedly captive audience, we are at an impasse, sir.

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#128 bulldog12
January 05 2014, 08:12PM
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RexHolez wrote:

Well I'm the one that trashed your comment and I'm also the one that blames everything on Lowe right down to the type of sock tape Jeff Petry wears. So quit making douche bag statements and check your spelling.

So your all of the above.

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#129 Rotten Ron
January 05 2014, 08:14PM
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2 guys in my section carried jerseys in tonight. Looks like theyve been getting them ready to go since goal#3

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#130 Gerald R. Ford
January 05 2014, 08:14PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

And no, I don't work for a fortune five hundred company, but I do retail products for some of the largest insurance companies in the world and consult to them on marketing initiatives in western Canada and the country as a whole.

Oh!! And thanks for listening and reading!!

Insurance?!!

Oh, well that changes everything.

Forget everything I said.

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#131 Arius Mumin
January 05 2014, 08:19PM
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Things are going to get wild at the Rack, both Hall and Eberle got points tonight.

One of the two will hit Rack Bottom tonight.

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#132 Arius Mumin
January 05 2014, 08:21PM
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Rotten Ron wrote:

2 guys in my section carried jerseys in tonight. Looks like theyve been getting them ready to go since goal#3

They need to throw them no matter what. Win or Lose. Tell them they're chumps if they carry them back out.

But, knowing Oilers fans-they probably went to the bathroom and put them on.

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#133 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 08:21PM
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So your all of the above.

If you want answers ask Kevin Lowe.

(you're*)

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#134 bulldog12
January 05 2014, 08:27PM
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If you want answers ask Kevin Lowe.

(you're*)

I'm fairly certain Lowe would agree your all of the above.

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#135 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 08:28PM
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I'm fairly certain Lowe would agree your all of the above.

*you're - I thought we established this

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#136 Serious Gord
January 05 2014, 08:32PM
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Gerald R. Ford wrote:

Apple dominated the academic and creative markets for years. If you were a teacher in the late 70s or throughout the 80s, you had an Apple computer. If you were a designer, you had an Apple computer.

If you don't buy that one, ever hear of Canada Post? How many years even BEFORE email and UPS did they run massive deficits?

I don't know what else to say, Gord. If you really think any random idiot can generate that much revenue simply based on having an allegedly captive audience, we are at an impasse, sir.

Apple's dominance of a small slice of the PC market was transitory. And they abused their clients and lost them even faster as a result.

Canada post is a crown corp and loses money for two reasons - unions and political imperatives like keeping to the door service in place. Its 'owner' was prepared to stroke a check to cover the losses rather than let the corp charge the real cost for postage. With the cpc in place that has finally begun to change. Also the monopoly it has - is far less powerful than it once was in no small part because of its marketing incompetence.

True monopolies are very rare particularly ones that aren't regulated. The oilers are one. It is telling when a monopoly gets broken - as it did in telecoms - or in a monopsony like the cwb and the sloth and incompetence is exposed. In fact outside of pro sports there are almost no such unregulated situations.

In sports an example would be the Yankees in the sixties when they lost their monopoly when the mets were created. In a very short time the mets became the bigger draw - so inept were the Yankee owners CBS. That all changed when a new owner group led by Steinbrenner bought the Yankees for 8.3 million.

One wonders what would happen if a second nhl team moved to EDM...

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#137 yessir
January 05 2014, 09:04PM
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Bryzarro World wrote:

You're out to lunch....

And you're angry...again.

I'm worried about ya Buddy...you okay?

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#138 etownman
January 05 2014, 09:11PM
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RexHolez wrote:

Haha this is fun. Brewer's no stud, but he'd be the best Dman on this team

Didn't look anywhere close to that tonight! Just saynin!

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#139 TayLordBalls
January 05 2014, 09:27PM
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*you're - I thought we established this

hehehe....

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#140 Bryzarro World
January 05 2014, 09:31PM
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And you're angry...again.

I'm worried about ya Buddy...you okay?

The constant misspelling of Gagner and the endless you're/your F#@kups have driven me over the edge.

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#141 yessir
January 05 2014, 09:36PM
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The constant misspelling of Gagner and the endless you're/your F#@kups have driven me over the edge.

LOL...Fair enough....shot of Bushmills and a beer every hour on the hour is the prescription for that...best of luck!

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#142 yessir
January 05 2014, 09:47PM
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*you're - I thought we established this

Bulldog12 wrote:

"I'm fairly certain Lowe would agree your all of the above."

"Pretend your mom is reading over your shoulder."

Mom, can you please help this stupid,stupid gentleman...because he's really a stupid,stupid gentleman.

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#143 madjam
January 05 2014, 09:50PM
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The BIG DIFFERENCE between Oilers building and other top competitors now , is they drafted more size , centers and defenceman -also with more size and weight than what we have . Some say we are better , but Ference and Perron are not exactly big players either . Only this year have we in reality taken a first step toward upsizing with the likes of Nurse . A decade late perhaps , but maybe a step in the right direction .

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#144 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
January 05 2014, 10:01PM
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ummm... they won tonight. What about that?

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#145 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
January 05 2014, 10:03PM
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Also against a top 10 team!!!??!! This is as exciting as the first time my name was in the phone book.

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#146 Hoozonphirst
January 05 2014, 10:07PM
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If I were coach Nick Schultz would have made his last appearance as an Oiler 2 nite. He gave Lightning players a free pass on checks time after time. This guy is a vet mailing it in. That trend didn't start just 2 nite. Tonight it was over the top clear that he is out of here. I would readily oblige him.

Shameful display of gutlessness.

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#147 Ted
January 05 2014, 10:08PM
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Well at least the mighty Oil can look forward to another high draft pick!

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#148 RexHolez
January 05 2014, 10:12PM
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Also against a top 10 team!!!??!! This is as exciting as the first time my name was in the phone book.

They must've seen all the guys in the stands with their jersey's balled up ready to chuck.

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#149 bulldog12
January 05 2014, 10:16PM
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Bulldog12 wrote:

"I'm fairly certain Lowe would agree your all of the above."

"Pretend your mom is reading over your shoulder."

Mom, can you please help this stupid,stupid gentleman...because he's really a stupid,stupid gentleman.

Obviously your your your you're you're you're one of the above as well. Except I bet YOU'RE the nerd that got picked on in school

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#150 Rod from Viking
January 05 2014, 10:20PM
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Arius Mumin wrote:

Things are going to get wild at the Rack, both Hall and Eberle got points tonight.

One of the two will hit Rack Bottom tonight.

Eakins announced 8am practice tomorrow, some players may not make it to their own beds or get any sleep.

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