THE TEAM....

Jason Gregor
January 07 2014 10:30AM

Canada finally announced their 2014 roster for the Sochi Olympics, and without a doubt the biggest surprise is Claude Giroux not making the team.

There are eleven returning players on the 25-man roster, but in my eyes Rick Nash continues to be the most overrated player in the NHL. Nash has had one 70-point season, and since the 2010 Olympics he has scored 185 points in 228 games, 25th most amongst Canadian-born players. In that same time span Marty St.Louis has scored the most points, 271, while Giroux is third with 255.

Giroux is flat out more competitive game in, game out than Nash. Nash has only two goals in 16 NHL playoff games, but Hockey Canada seems to put more onus on the fact he has played well at the water-downed World Championships.

Nash did play okay at the last Olympics, but how much of that was because he was on Toews line, and Toews was the best player in the tournament.

Nash has 18 points in 27 games this year. No one can say he is playing well, or close to the level of Claude Giroux, but Hockey Canada choose him because he's played for them before. I guess Giroux should not play crappier in the NHL so his team could miss the playoffs and he can pad his stats at the World Championships.

Here is the roster, returning players have **.

Goalies:

  • Roberto Luongo**
  • Carey Price
  • Mike Smith

Defence:

  • Jay Bouwmeester
  • Drew Doughty**
  • Dan Hamuis
  • Duncan Keith**
  • Alex Pietrangelo
  • PK Subban
  • Marc-Edouard Vlasic
  • Shea Weber**

Forwards:

  • Jamie Benn
  • Patrice Bergeron**
  • Jeff Carter
  • Sidney Crosby**
  • Matt Duchene
  • Ryan Getzlaf**
  • Chris Kunitz
  • Patrick Marleau**
  • Rick Nash**
  • Corey Perry**
  • Patrick Sharp
  • Steven Stamkos
  • John Tavares
  • Jonathan Toews**

I still believe Canada is the favourite, because of the blueline and their top-six forwards; Crosby, Tavares, Stamkos, Getzlaf, Perry and Toews.

It will be an awesome tournament and I can't wait to watch, but picking Nash over Giroux makes little sense. Essentially they are basing it on seven good games that happened four years ago. Horrible decision.

Which decision surpised you?

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#151 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 01:51PM
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Looking through the list of forwards - the G and D I have zero problem with - Fleury has the same rep with hockey cda as dubnyk has with oiler fans. 4left 4right makes perfect sense - three things dominate:

Speed

Size

Seniority

Speed - every player is in the top percentile for speed

Size - every player is 6ft or over except crosby and Duchene - both at 5'11"

Seniority - eleven alumni

Apply all those criteria and the likes of st louis (size) and Giroux (5'11" 172lbs and declined to play for HC in the past) are knocked out.

This is a team that will not be beaten to a puck nor will it be knocked off the puck.

The one thing that may be missing - believe it or not - or at least was further down the list is playmaking. And playmaking begets scoring chances and goals. This may be a team that struggles to score against a disciplined defensive team - i'm looking at you sweden.

The three that I quibble with are:

Marleau - Got exposed/disappeared in the playoffs in years past. Perhaps in a less physically brutal olympic game he will play at a high level

Carter - Defensively how good is he? aren't there better options (see below)

Nash - Big ? - is he back to past levels or is he damaged like LeCavalier? going to be hard to tell him to go on the DL if he is subpar.

In their place i would have like to have seen:

Seguin - excellent two way player and playmaker can SKATE

Hall - lots of things in his favour - two Mem cup MVPs, natural LW to name two

Skinner - natural LW - great skater, even better shot- beats the very best goalies, Fearless

All three are part of the young guard, play on teams that are out of the playoffs, and are not part of the HC establishment.

Should this team fail, the place to start in the questioning will be with leaving these guys off. TOO conservative and approach will be the refrain.

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#152 Spydyr
January 07 2014, 01:51PM
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Me wrote:

What's the reason the World Championships have to be so close to the playoffs every year?

The European hockey season ends then. The World Championships is thier Stanley Cup.

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#153 Me
January 07 2014, 01:55PM
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ToppsSmith wrote:

Ya I said it before and I'll say it again. I would loved to see Hall and Eberle play on the big ice and play with a pure playmaker like Thorton. I think Hall didn't come up on TSN because that network hates the west coast teams. (Like most networks) they put them on TV, but they always favor Toronto or Montreal. It's grossly obvious too.

They have a deal to broadcast Maple Laugh games even after the sportsnet takeover, so theres that. Also the population base has something to do with it. Also , go to a Laughs game or a Habs game in a visiting Canadian rink and that should tell you something. Hall didn't come up because skating fast in straight lines and only playing offense doesn't get you in the mix.

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#154 Rick Stroppel
January 07 2014, 01:57PM
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corky wrote:

Whats laughable is that Kevin Lowe is still part of this Team Canada "brainstrust".

A TIME AND A PLACE

Listen buddy, this is the place to talk about the Olympic team, not the Oilers! Everybody knows that Lowe is a CONCEITED, EGOTISTICAL NINCOMPOOP, but this is not the appropriate place to point that out!

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#155 Zarny
January 07 2014, 02:00PM
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Me wrote:

So it's all about age? Nothing to do with any other shortcomings in his game? All you do is post the same thing about the age of him and Duchene, as if that's the sole reason.

Yeesh are you ever slow.

The shortcomings in Hall's game (ie risk and not a good enough 200 ft game) are a direct correlation to his age and lack of experience.

No different than Crosby in 2006 or Stamkos in 2010...except Hall is younger and less experienced than both at the time.

Was Mike Richards a better player than Stamkos in 2010? No, he had simply been around the block before and when you're playing against the best of the best that matters regardless of how skilled you are.

I get it...you're a troll that doesn't like Hall.

Unfortunately for you that will last for about another year. And then Hall will be a lock for the top LW spot like Crosby has 1C locked up now.

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#156 Tikkanese
January 07 2014, 02:00PM
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Canada's "B" team starting lineup:

1st line Carter Marleau Nash

1st D paring Vlasic Hamhuis

Starting Goalie Smith

See what I did there?

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#157 He Who Knows
January 07 2014, 02:01PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

A TIME AND A PLACE

Listen buddy, this is the place to talk about the Olympic team, not the Oilers! Everybody knows that Lowe is a CONCEITED, EGOTISTICAL NINCOMPOOP, but this is not the appropriate place to point that out!

Listen buddy, we will talk about Lowe anywhere and everywhere, even on Ellen if we have to because that POS does not belong in any executive capacity period. So there's always a time and place.

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#158 Carlos Danger
January 07 2014, 02:07PM
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Does anyone have the projected lines and d pairings from TSN

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#159 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 02:10PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

I'm prepared for a trashing here...

I don't know if I would call the World Cup superior, it's different and is for a different market.

I'm not going to question all of your points as there is only a few that I kindof disagree with.

4. Regarding time zones, that 5 am start thing, it only applies to North America as 5 am as in Europe it is a normal evening time. I don't see that being an issue if the "World Cup" is actually held worldwide.

5. I could be wrong, but the NHL has an 82 game schedule which is one of the longest hockey schedules worldwide, and I don't know how much the players would want to play or prepare for a summer tournament. I think the players breaking down would be an issue.

6. I. Not sure where payment would come in unless there was some type of prize money involved, there is also the issue of insurance as I don't think too many team owners would be or even are happy with releasing their 5 mil a year player for a summer tournament.

7/9 I don't think there is any fear of a "Miracle on Ice" moment not happening as there is quite a bit of parity among Olympic teams, it just takes time, and you are seeing it with teams like Switzerland for example, who beat Canada in 2010 in the round robin part. I think the IIHF is doing a tremendous job of raising the level of international hockey with their World Championship structure. No one really expected the Finns to win the World Juniors this year, so gold is not guaranteed for anyone.

8. I don't think there is any country that has a full time "National team" anymore, I can only guess that it is a money issue as a National Team program can't be cheap. Something similar to football(soccer) scenario with national team breaks can't really work either as the season is pretty packed as it is.

The idea of a "World Cup" of hockey in the format that was used in 2004 and before, seems only popular in North America as a lot of Europeans take the Olympics and IIHF World Championships as their "World Cup" they both are massively important and popular to watch and players take it very seriously (well Europeans )

Ideally it would be good for the IIHF to move the world championships to a later time so it would get more North American interest, but I guess that affects the European leagues.

Apologies for the novel, I get on a topic and latch on to it :-P

Follow the money.

The various Hockey federations make bupkiss sending teams to the olympics. Hell the NHL wasn't even allowed to put a video of the gold medal goal on its website. Because of that the olympics have been a dead cat in terms of marketing revenues for the NHL/KHL.

A World Cup will make tons of dough every two years for everyone - including NHL players who won't even be playing via revenue sharing. The KHL and Swedish Elite leagues will be all over it.

The only reason why the pros went to Sochi was as a peace offering to the KHL. Now that that has been done the Pro leagues will sit down and hammer out the format for a pro world cup in 2016.

Played in last half of sept and first week of oct. - Think world cup final on Canadian Thanksgiving every two years...

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#160 Oiler Al
January 07 2014, 02:13PM
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Curious in that if Babcock likes forward pairs, then why was Martin St. Louis not considered as the pair player with Stamkos... OR is Stmakos really not coming to play and they hold that slot open for a late surging player .

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#161 Me
January 07 2014, 02:15PM
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Zarny wrote:

Yeesh are you ever slow.

The shortcomings in Hall's game (ie risk and not a good enough 200 ft game) are a direct correlation to his age and lack of experience.

No different than Crosby in 2006 or Stamkos in 2010...except Hall is younger and less experienced than both at the time.

Was Mike Richards a better player than Stamkos in 2010? No, he had simply been around the block before and when you're playing against the best of the best that matters regardless of how skilled you are.

I get it...you're a troll that doesn't like Hall.

Unfortunately for you that will last for about another year. And then Hall will be a lock for the top LW spot like Crosby has 1C locked up now.

So you have a delorean and can time travel, or predict the future now...how coool is that. It's not a lock that he learns or become the more well rounded guy needed to be that guy. I'm trolling the idiots that seem to think Kunitz isn't the right pick, based on what i have no clue.

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#162 Zarny
January 07 2014, 02:16PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Looking through the list of forwards - the G and D I have zero problem with - Fleury has the same rep with hockey cda as dubnyk has with oiler fans. 4left 4right makes perfect sense - three things dominate:

Speed

Size

Seniority

Speed - every player is in the top percentile for speed

Size - every player is 6ft or over except crosby and Duchene - both at 5'11"

Seniority - eleven alumni

Apply all those criteria and the likes of st louis (size) and Giroux (5'11" 172lbs and declined to play for HC in the past) are knocked out.

This is a team that will not be beaten to a puck nor will it be knocked off the puck.

The one thing that may be missing - believe it or not - or at least was further down the list is playmaking. And playmaking begets scoring chances and goals. This may be a team that struggles to score against a disciplined defensive team - i'm looking at you sweden.

The three that I quibble with are:

Marleau - Got exposed/disappeared in the playoffs in years past. Perhaps in a less physically brutal olympic game he will play at a high level

Carter - Defensively how good is he? aren't there better options (see below)

Nash - Big ? - is he back to past levels or is he damaged like LeCavalier? going to be hard to tell him to go on the DL if he is subpar.

In their place i would have like to have seen:

Seguin - excellent two way player and playmaker can SKATE

Hall - lots of things in his favour - two Mem cup MVPs, natural LW to name two

Skinner - natural LW - great skater, even better shot- beats the very best goalies, Fearless

All three are part of the young guard, play on teams that are out of the playoffs, and are not part of the HC establishment.

Should this team fail, the place to start in the questioning will be with leaving these guys off. TOO conservative and approach will be the refrain.

Bang on that Hockey Canada favors seniority and experience. When you see Canada's World Jr's freeze under the pressure it's easy to see why.

Marleau will be fine on big ice. Super fast, kills penalties and extremely versatile. He doesn't have to be the man.

Carter is very good defensively contrary to some comments here. He killed penalties with Richards in Phi. Speed is the question mark with Carter on the big ice.

Nash is a big ?. Not playing well after the concussion, but again kills penalties and can play on a checking line.

Seguin and Hall are too young and inexperienced. They still try to force too risky plays instead of being patient.

Not to mention Bos had to put a bodyguard in front of Seguin's hotel room during the playoffs so he wouldn't skip out and party. Talented but nowhere near mature enough to play against the best of the best.

Skinner simply isn't good enough. He's not the same caliber as Hall or Seguin.

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#163 Me
January 07 2014, 02:17PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

A TIME AND A PLACE

Listen buddy, this is the place to talk about the Olympic team, not the Oilers! Everybody knows that Lowe is a CONCEITED, EGOTISTICAL NINCOMPOOP, but this is not the appropriate place to point that out!

Last I checked sLowe was up there at the Olympic management table, keep your badge in your pocket...youre off duty here occifffer

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#164 Rick Stroppel
January 07 2014, 02:21PM
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He Who Knows wrote:

Listen buddy, we will talk about Lowe anywhere and everywhere, even on Ellen if we have to because that POS does not belong in any executive capacity period. So there's always a time and place.

SO HARSH!

I don't like to reference cuss words, even using initials. Can we agree to refer to Lowe as a STEAMING PILE OF ODIFEROUS EXCREMENT?

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#165 Zarny
January 07 2014, 02:26PM
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Me wrote:

So you have a delorean and can time travel, or predict the future now...how coool is that. It's not a lock that he learns or become the more well rounded guy needed to be that guy. I'm trolling the idiots that seem to think Kunitz isn't the right pick, based on what i have no clue.

Yep, my Delorean is red and it is super cool.

Stamkos and Tavares aren't the most well-rounded players either. Their offense though makes up for it as will Hall's.

Hall has 88 pts in his last 82 games as a 21 y/o. 5-10 players a year put up more than a pt/gm over a whole season.

Kunitz is a questionable pick because the debate is top line with Crosby or not good enough for the Olympics.

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#166 stg
January 07 2014, 02:29PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

What's this bunk? Where's Will Acton?

Are you kidding me hes a 4th liner for edmonton how would he possibly make team canade

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#167 Me
January 07 2014, 02:34PM
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Zarny wrote:

Yep, my Delorean is red and it is super cool.

Stamkos and Tavares aren't the most well-rounded players either. Their offense though makes up for it as will Hall's.

Hall has 88 pts in his last 82 games as a 21 y/o. 5-10 players a year put up more than a pt/gm over a whole season.

Kunitz is a questionable pick because the debate is top line with Crosby or not good enough for the Olympics.

Red is not cool at all.

you are speaking in the future about Hall again, so that is meaningless right now. I'm not arguing that he'll most likely be way more in the mix in the future if he actually improves in other aspects besides offense.

Again...points....Kunitz top LW for points...Hall third..and he plays on a good team where you are accountable and dont get to take a lot of chances and not come back full speed...Hall.

Points...is only a part of the equation.

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#168 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 02:45PM
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Zarny wrote:

Bang on that Hockey Canada favors seniority and experience. When you see Canada's World Jr's freeze under the pressure it's easy to see why.

Marleau will be fine on big ice. Super fast, kills penalties and extremely versatile. He doesn't have to be the man.

Carter is very good defensively contrary to some comments here. He killed penalties with Richards in Phi. Speed is the question mark with Carter on the big ice.

Nash is a big ?. Not playing well after the concussion, but again kills penalties and can play on a checking line.

Seguin and Hall are too young and inexperienced. They still try to force too risky plays instead of being patient.

Not to mention Bos had to put a bodyguard in front of Seguin's hotel room during the playoffs so he wouldn't skip out and party. Talented but nowhere near mature enough to play against the best of the best.

Skinner simply isn't good enough. He's not the same caliber as Hall or Seguin.

Note that I used the term "quibble". I really don't have any big issues with the players picked.

And I think my point stands: if they fail it will be blamed on a process that was too conservative.

Seguin seems to grown up lots in the past few months

And skinner is right behind Tyler and Taylor - and couture is out with an injury.

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#169 Tikkanese
January 07 2014, 02:46PM
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stg wrote:

Are you kidding me hes a 4th liner for edmonton how would he possibly make team canade

Geez, the joke went way over your head and those who put thumbs down on the comment as well. How was that not painfully obviously a joke?

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#170 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 02:47PM
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Zarny wrote:

Yep, my Delorean is red and it is super cool.

Stamkos and Tavares aren't the most well-rounded players either. Their offense though makes up for it as will Hall's.

Hall has 88 pts in his last 82 games as a 21 y/o. 5-10 players a year put up more than a pt/gm over a whole season.

Kunitz is a questionable pick because the debate is top line with Crosby or not good enough for the Olympics.

If Crosby is out then Kunitz doesn't dress. There is enough room on the roster to have him there when sid is healthy.

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#171 Dog Train
January 07 2014, 03:08PM
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I understand the lefty-right balance but I would have had Seabrook there before Hamhuis. Seabrook played poorly at the last Olympics but he is a better player now and likely wouldn't be as flustered this time around. I agree that Giroux should have made the team, he is the biggest surprise omission to me. I would have had him on the team before Nash or Carter.

Team Canada will always have a gold-medal calibre roster on paper. The key will be getting the goaltending because most other countries have better goaltending on paper. After seeing the final rosters, I think Sweden might have the most complete roster.

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#172 RexHolez
January 07 2014, 03:09PM
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How come all the hockey canada managers come from winning teams accept Kevin Lowe? 1 of these things is not like the others....

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#173 Eberle4MVP
January 07 2014, 03:12PM
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bestmyfeeling wrote:

i would like to hear your explanation how it's "not even close"

Its not even close because Jonathan Toews is one of the most respected men in hockey. Dont let his age fool you, his demeanor, his hockey IQ, his "Messier-like" attitude to put the game on his shoulders, and he is a born winner. Not Whinner, which is what a lot of people think of Crosby. Yes, he got us the golden goal 4 years ago, and yes, he is one of the best athletes in the world, but skill isnt the only determining factor in naming a Captain. Respect is. And i believe that Toews has the respect of just about everybody in the league. And he deserves the C come Olympic time.

Id like to hear an arguement on who is a better candidate? Cause, personally, I dont see a Scott Neidermayer on this team...

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#174 Zarny
January 07 2014, 03:16PM
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Eberle4MVP wrote:

Its not even close because Jonathan Toews is one of the most respected men in hockey. Dont let his age fool you, his demeanor, his hockey IQ, his "Messier-like" attitude to put the game on his shoulders, and he is a born winner. Not Whinner, which is what a lot of people think of Crosby. Yes, he got us the golden goal 4 years ago, and yes, he is one of the best athletes in the world, but skill isnt the only determining factor in naming a Captain. Respect is. And i believe that Toews has the respect of just about everybody in the league. And he deserves the C come Olympic time.

Id like to hear an arguement on who is a better candidate? Cause, personally, I dont see a Scott Neidermayer on this team...

Toews would be an excellent choice for Captain; but to say it isn't close is simply wrong.

Crosby, despite your impression, is an incredible leader and has put Pit on his shoulders numerous times. He also has the respect of everyone in the league...and is the odds on favorite to be named Captain for Canada.

Oh and it's spelled whiner not whinner.

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#175 Zarny
January 07 2014, 03:17PM
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RexHolez wrote:

How come all the hockey canada managers come from winning teams accept Kevin Lowe? 1 of these things is not like the others....

And yet Lowe is still included in the Hockey Canada brain trust.

Sort of tells you the merit of all the Lowe criticism doesn't it.

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#176 RexHolez
January 07 2014, 03:21PM
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Zarny wrote:

And yet Lowe is still included in the Hockey Canada brain trust.

Sort of tells you the merit of all the Lowe criticism doesn't it.

I think the teams record in the last 8 years is all the merit needed for criticism.... But this isn't the thread for that! Go Canada

Little surprised ham humid made it and agree nash is lucky too

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#177 Eberle4MVP
January 07 2014, 03:22PM
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Thank you for the spelling lesson. Ill make sure to use spell check on a friggen blog...

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#178 Slats
January 07 2014, 03:40PM
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corky wrote:

Whats laughable is that Kevin Lowe is still part of this Team Canada "brainstrust".

someone needed to read the card . . . .

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#179 Cold Hard Truth
January 07 2014, 03:43PM
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@Zarny

You used a semicolon incorrectly. "But to say it isn't close is simply wrong" is a dependent clause and needs a comma, not a colon.

Before you hand out grammar/spelling lessons you should tighten up your own.

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#180 Cold Hard Truth
January 07 2014, 03:45PM
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New Rule: Nobody is allowed to use the semicolon anymore. Use a period instead. 90% of the posters on this board use it incorrectly.

Jonathan Willis uses them correctly, albeit too liberally.

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#181 Slats
January 07 2014, 03:52PM
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Congrats to Hemmer for making Team Czech

and Petr Nedved!!!!! Are you kidding me at 42 years young - wait until braintrust signs him to a 3 year deal for the Oil . . . .

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#182 Spydyr
January 07 2014, 04:00PM
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stg wrote:

Are you kidding me hes a 4th liner for edmonton how would he possibly make team canade

Why not , Lowe did.

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#183 Me
January 07 2014, 04:18PM
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Slats wrote:

Congrats to Hemmer for making Team Czech

and Petr Nedved!!!!! Are you kidding me at 42 years young - wait until braintrust signs him to a 3 year deal for the Oil . . . .

That's bs Petr Nedved is Canadian, should be on our Oly team..AGAIN!!!!

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#184 RexHolez
January 07 2014, 04:35PM
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Crosby doesn't get along with Giroux. Sid's team. Why else would Kunitz make it? Giroux is even better than him!

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#185 Stan
January 07 2014, 04:36PM
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Biggest shock to me was Logan Couture not making the team

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#186 Randy
January 07 2014, 04:52PM
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Valeri Nichushkin makes Russia Olympic team Yakupov does not

Hmmm

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#187 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 07 2014, 04:55PM
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Biggest shock to me is that a dozen or so highly paid experts with decades of NHL experience and acumen have been meeting on this roster for about 18 months...dozens of meetings, hundreds of man hours, etc....and give or take one or two players...between whom the difference is razor thin, they come up with the exact same roster as a few hundred fans on a blog site who put about twenty minutes thought into it.....incredible when you think about it.......I think the process is over hyped.

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#188 TigerUnderGlass
January 07 2014, 05:07PM
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I like how the guy who can't quite grasp why people might question the Kunitz selection is calling people idiots.

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#189 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 07 2014, 05:16PM
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Cold Hard Truth wrote:

New Rule: Nobody is allowed to use the semicolon anymore. Use a period instead. 90% of the posters on this board use it incorrectly.

Jonathan Willis uses them correctly, albeit too liberally.

Really;

I hate it even worse when these guys don't properly site their references in the bibliography!

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#190 madjam
January 07 2014, 05:36PM
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They are playing on the big ice surface but realize they have to offensively crash the net with size to score , as most squads will clog up the middle of ice . Joe Thornton is one I would have put on for his adapt handling of puck around net area and setting up others . I would also have added Lucic for crashing the net and opposing defenceman , and physicality purpose . Your not going to get many goals from the periphery or outside in Olympic Tourney .

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#191 Lawndemon
January 07 2014, 05:40PM
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Eberle4MVP wrote:

Thank you for the spelling lesson. Ill make sure to use spell check on a friggen blog...

I think you meant "friggin"... with an "i" not an "e".

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#192 Spoils
January 07 2014, 05:50PM
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I want to start a meme of picking a 2nd team Canada. They send two bobsled teams don't they?

#Canada2

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#193 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 06:22PM
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Yep, my Delorean is red and it is super cool.

Stamkos and Tavares aren't the most well-rounded players either. Their offense though makes up for it as will Hall's.

Hall has 88 pts in his last 82 games as a 21 y/o. 5-10 players a year put up more than a pt/gm over a whole season.

Kunitz is a questionable pick because the debate is top line with Crosby or not good enough for the Olympics.

If Crosby is out then Kunitz doesn't dress. There is enough room on the roster to have him there when sid is healthy.

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#194 hockey fan 1976
January 07 2014, 06:39PM
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Make no mistake about it guys, the reason Yakupov did not make the Russian team is because of the way his lack of playing minutes was handled earlier in the year and how much of a drama-queen he was about it. Russia could have easily over-looked his lack of scoring so far this year due to the fact that he plays for the Oilers and he has been handled wrong in the line up. As a natural scorer and PP specialist he's on this team, as an immature, whiny baby he's not.

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#195 Rod from Viking
January 07 2014, 06:45PM
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Stan wrote:

Biggest shock to me was Logan Couture not making the team

He was having surgery this week out for a month.

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#196 RexHolez
January 07 2014, 07:26PM
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Crosby doesn't get along with Giroux. Sid's team. Why else would Kunitz make it? Giroux is even better than him!

Who is this guy always posting sh!t with the same name?

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#197 Harlie
January 07 2014, 07:39PM
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Marleau? Seriously??

http://oilersnation.com/uploads/Image/PattyMarleau12.jpg

" I always thought that someone that was extremely talented that had that grit, that had that fire, that showed the emotion and got pissed off, I always thought that that was a much more effective player, and Patrick never gave that to me. That always frustrated me. 

I don't know how you can go through a career or go through a season and never change your demeanor, never change your facial expression, not get pissed off and break something. I just don't understand that. "

http://oilersnation.com/2012/11/27/roenick-stops-by

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#198 O-Doil Rules
January 07 2014, 11:46PM
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Anyone who believes kLowe is such and idiot is really not seeing the big picture. Luring All Star millionaires that crave winning, nice weather and cheap real estate to Edmonton isn't a job I'd wish on my worst enemy. He made a plan to suck and build through the draft and suck we have but what did people really think?? Three first overalls and Bam!???

Trash him all you want, while your at it blame your dad for your anger displacement issues.

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#199 Rdubb
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Were there surprises on Team Canada yesterday, YOU BET!!! But, why didn't they take guys who play left-wing instead of so many centre's? I hate to be a homer, but I really think that Hall should have been named to Team Canada for several reasons, they are; - he is a natural LW and Team Canada doesn't have many natural LW'ingers, that alone blows my mind - he has speed, speed many players wish they had, and that speed would be a HUGE advantage on the bigger ice surface, it would open up so much room for the so called "skilled" players - he'll go into the "dirty areas" when he needs to, although we haven't seen that so much this past season plus - he can force d-men back, thus opening up the offensive zone - he'll be a very important part of future international games for Canada, and this would have been a very good experience - last yr he was the 2nd best lw (behind Ovie), and this season his stats (offensive) are just as good. He is tied for 2nd in A's from LW, T10 in G & T13 in SOG for the season. - imagine how good he'd be playing with an EXPERIENCED C like Crosby, Stamkos, or playing with Getzlaf & Perry??? - He is much better suited to play for TC than Marleau, Carter or Nash...Lowe even said Nash was put on the team because of his past experience wearing the Canadian Jersey...he (Nash) is perhaps the MOST OVERRATED player/forward in the NHL, he doesn't deserve the HUGE contract that he has, he has never led a team to anything, and I think always crumbled when the pressure was on his, look @ his CBJ days...

just my thoughts Peck

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#200 Serious Gord
January 08 2014, 09:30AM
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Were there surprises on Team Canada yesterday, YOU BET!!! But, why didn't they take guys who play left-wing instead of so many centre's? I hate to be a homer, but I really think that Hall should have been named to Team Canada for several reasons, they are; - he is a natural LW and Team Canada doesn't have many natural LW'ingers, that alone blows my mind - he has speed, speed many players wish they had, and that speed would be a HUGE advantage on the bigger ice surface, it would open up so much room for the so called "skilled" players - he'll go into the "dirty areas" when he needs to, although we haven't seen that so much this past season plus - he can force d-men back, thus opening up the offensive zone - he'll be a very important part of future international games for Canada, and this would have been a very good experience - last yr he was the 2nd best lw (behind Ovie), and this season his stats (offensive) are just as good. He is tied for 2nd in A's from LW, T10 in G & T13 in SOG for the season. - imagine how good he'd be playing with an EXPERIENCED C like Crosby, Stamkos, or playing with Getzlaf & Perry??? - He is much better suited to play for TC than Marleau, Carter or Nash...Lowe even said Nash was put on the team because of his past experience wearing the Canadian Jersey...he (Nash) is perhaps the MOST OVERRATED player/forward in the NHL, he doesn't deserve the HUGE contract that he has, he has never led a team to anything, and I think always crumbled when the pressure was on his, look @ his CBJ days...

just my thoughts Peck

He has a very good record of playing great in national-level games. He is widely credited with shutting down ovechkin in the last olympics.

He had an injury early this year, but then so has stamkos and no one is saying he should be kept off the team.

Hall being appointed has merit, but Crawford in an interview yesterday said that one of the main criteria they used was Hockey IQ and i think its pretty evident that Hall hasn't demonstrated he has a high one.

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