THE TEAM....

Jason Gregor
January 07 2014 10:30AM

Canada finally announced their 2014 roster for the Sochi Olympics, and without a doubt the biggest surprise is Claude Giroux not making the team.

There are eleven returning players on the 25-man roster, but in my eyes Rick Nash continues to be the most overrated player in the NHL. Nash has had one 70-point season, and since the 2010 Olympics he has scored 185 points in 228 games, 25th most amongst Canadian-born players. In that same time span Marty St.Louis has scored the most points, 271, while Giroux is third with 255.

Giroux is flat out more competitive game in, game out than Nash. Nash has only two goals in 16 NHL playoff games, but Hockey Canada seems to put more onus on the fact he has played well at the water-downed World Championships.

Nash did play okay at the last Olympics, but how much of that was because he was on Toews line, and Toews was the best player in the tournament.

Nash has 18 points in 27 games this year. No one can say he is playing well, or close to the level of Claude Giroux, but Hockey Canada choose him because he's played for them before. I guess Giroux should not play crappier in the NHL so his team could miss the playoffs and he can pad his stats at the World Championships.

Here is the roster, returning players have **.

Goalies:

  • Roberto Luongo**
  • Carey Price
  • Mike Smith

Defence:

  • Jay Bouwmeester
  • Drew Doughty**
  • Dan Hamuis
  • Duncan Keith**
  • Alex Pietrangelo
  • PK Subban
  • Marc-Edouard Vlasic
  • Shea Weber**

Forwards:

  • Jamie Benn
  • Patrice Bergeron**
  • Jeff Carter
  • Sidney Crosby**
  • Matt Duchene
  • Ryan Getzlaf**
  • Chris Kunitz
  • Patrick Marleau**
  • Rick Nash**
  • Corey Perry**
  • Patrick Sharp
  • Steven Stamkos
  • John Tavares
  • Jonathan Toews**

I still believe Canada is the favourite, because of the blueline and their top-six forwards; Crosby, Tavares, Stamkos, Getzlaf, Perry and Toews.

It will be an awesome tournament and I can't wait to watch, but picking Nash over Giroux makes little sense. Essentially they are basing it on seven good games that happened four years ago. Horrible decision.

Which decision surpised you?

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#51 S cottV
January 07 2014, 11:52AM
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I wonder where the Oilers had Jamie Benn in the 2007 draft?

They took a lot of guys ahead of him that never turned into anything close to this guy.

He would sure look good at centre for the Oilers.

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#52 pelhem grenville
January 07 2014, 11:26AM
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Oilerz4life wrote:

Your article failed to mention that the Edmonton Oilers are being considered to represent the best that Canada has to offer in Interpretive Ice Dancing at the Sochi Games.

...yikes can you and all the rest of the smarmy types here stop with the Oiler jabs?

this is the OLYMPIC TEAM we're talking about!

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#53 Chris
January 07 2014, 11:31AM
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surprises:

left off - St Louis, Giroux included - Nash, Benn, Marleau

I'm not surprised Hall didn't make it. Ithink he should be there as 13 or 14th fwd at teh very least. And I just can't believe he's not included in the notable ommissions. Didn't we just go through Team Canada coming in 4th (WJHC) with a "safe team" and with the "best fit".

Hall hurt by playing for a losing team? WEll Nash starred on those powerhouses in Columbus and NY. And Marleau's SJ Sharks have disappeared in the playoffs as many times as the oilers have missed. But the 2 Memorial Cup winner& MVP doesn't.

How many natural wingers on the team? I count 5 (source NHL.com) and 9 natural centers. I guess knowing how to play wing isn't a consideration. They'll adjust.

I wish them good luck. They going to need it!

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#54 Newj
January 07 2014, 11:37AM
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Mo Playoffs Mo Problems wrote:

Imagine Canada's "B-Team". They could probably still contend for a medal:

Hall - Thornton - Couture

Neal - Giroux - Eberle

St. Louis - E. Staal - J. Staal

Lucic - Seguin - Ladd

Reserves: Marchand - M. Richards - Doan - J. Williams

Boyle - Seabrook

Giordano - Phaneuf

Letang - M. Staal

Reserves: Girardi - Beauchemin

Bernier

Harding

Ward

Yup...thats a world class line up right there!

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#55 Zarny
January 07 2014, 02:00PM
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Me wrote:

So it's all about age? Nothing to do with any other shortcomings in his game? All you do is post the same thing about the age of him and Duchene, as if that's the sole reason.

Yeesh are you ever slow.

The shortcomings in Hall's game (ie risk and not a good enough 200 ft game) are a direct correlation to his age and lack of experience.

No different than Crosby in 2006 or Stamkos in 2010...except Hall is younger and less experienced than both at the time.

Was Mike Richards a better player than Stamkos in 2010? No, he had simply been around the block before and when you're playing against the best of the best that matters regardless of how skilled you are.

I get it...you're a troll that doesn't like Hall.

Unfortunately for you that will last for about another year. And then Hall will be a lock for the top LW spot like Crosby has 1C locked up now.

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#56 Me
January 07 2014, 02:17PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

A TIME AND A PLACE

Listen buddy, this is the place to talk about the Olympic team, not the Oilers! Everybody knows that Lowe is a CONCEITED, EGOTISTICAL NINCOMPOOP, but this is not the appropriate place to point that out!

Last I checked sLowe was up there at the Olympic management table, keep your badge in your pocket...youre off duty here occifffer

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#57 Rick Stroppel
January 07 2014, 11:10AM
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HUH?

Like is says on the back of a losing lottery ticket, "please try again".

Interesting pattern relating to Crosby. Kunitz is Crosby's linemate, he is IN. Giroux and Crosby hate each other, Giroux is OUT. Matt Duchene trains with Crosby in the summer, Duchene is IN. Is is possible the nabobs are afraid to stand up to Mr. Wonderful?

I hope they win gold, I think they will. But if they do not, I will be very dis-a-POINTED!

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#58 Chris A
January 07 2014, 11:12AM
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I threw up in my mouth a little when I heard Nash's name called.

I'm on the fence with Kunitz. Yes, he has relied somewhat on Crosby but the fact remains that he is producing at a very impressive rate right now.

James Neal is a big snub IMO. Everyone talks about Couture being such a snub, but Neal has produced a lot more goals and points than Couture from 2011-12 until now.

I would much rather see Giroux or Neal over Nash.

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#59 Zarny
January 07 2014, 11:18AM
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Haha...I love the over-reaction.

Nash over Giroux and St. Louis surprised me but come on...shocking? No. Shawn Horcoff would have been "shocking".

Statistically Nash probably is over-rated but he's always been a player who dazzles in person. Big guy that is fast and can stick-handle in a phone booth. Not playing well after his concussion tho.

Nash has also been there, done that. When you watch the World Jr's lay an egg and play to not lose due to the pressure, being able to perform in the moment is key and was probably a factor in selecting Carter, Nash and Marleau.

Kunitz was a conundrum. Can't deny his stats and Sid is notoriously hard to play with. Individually I certainly think there are better players but established chemistry in a short tourney is very valuable so it's not surprising selection.

Seabrook missing out is a shame; simply a numbers game on the right side. Hamhuis and Vlasic though are good all-around D that cheat a bit on the defensive side. Good options to pair with Weber.

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#60 pelhem grenville
January 07 2014, 11:58AM
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Oilerz4life wrote:

Sorry, I forgot that this is OILERSNATION.COM. What are you the blog police?

...no not the police but if you don't have anything else but donkey things to say (ice dancing) then drop the Oilez4life moniker and go with mister irrelevant instead...

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#61 OILERSORDEATH
January 07 2014, 12:46PM
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Dan Hamuis!!?? Are you fricken serious? not sure about that one either.

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#62 Rob...
January 07 2014, 12:56PM
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@He Who Knows

FTFY: "Hey Gregor, I heard Lowe is going to be on your show today. This is your chance to grill his ass and let him know the fanbase despise his actions since the summer of 2006."

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#63 Randy
January 07 2014, 04:52PM
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Valeri Nichushkin makes Russia Olympic team Yakupov does not

Hmmm

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#64 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 07 2014, 04:55PM
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Biggest shock to me is that a dozen or so highly paid experts with decades of NHL experience and acumen have been meeting on this roster for about 18 months...dozens of meetings, hundreds of man hours, etc....and give or take one or two players...between whom the difference is razor thin, they come up with the exact same roster as a few hundred fans on a blog site who put about twenty minutes thought into it.....incredible when you think about it.......I think the process is over hyped.

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#65 They're $hittie
January 07 2014, 10:53AM
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If Gagner gets traded to Pittsburg and plays RW with Crosby does that mean he qualifies for the olympics?

Also if Kunitz is there to play with crosby and we know he is not one of the best four LWs than why would Seabrook not make the team to play with Keith when he is a better option than Hamhuis or Vlassic.

They made this choice based on handedness and not skill. So instead of the better player with more skill and playing with his partner for chemistry they decided to take an inferior player because they dont think elite players can take a pass on their back hand.

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#66 **
January 07 2014, 11:11AM
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I can see putting Marleau in there because fo need for speed on the bigger ice and since they brought CArter they needed that. I can see CArter being there becuase they need at least one net crasher with size and good hands. I can see MAtt Douchene in replacing Couture because of the injury, but Nash??? it's not as bad a s the Bobby Ryan snub, but Nash over Girou, St. Louis or even Thronton, well that's just crazy.

I would have prefered Seabrook over either Vlasic or Hamhius, but since Babcok wants 4 and 4, oh well.

Stamkos is going to play, even if he has to duck tape his whole leg.

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#67 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 11:11AM
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I had 1 hope going in: i really wanted either Duchene or Hall to make the team. Both these players have something to their game that is hard to pin down. I think, if given the opportunity, they could really shine.

I am really happy for Matt Duchene! The announcement leaves me with a smile on my face.

My only gripe revolves around Nash. He's an OK player but he is no where near the player of some of these other guys being left off.

Many of the players being left off the team contribute greatly to their clubs. WHen they step on the ice, it's apparent that they are in play and they are difference makers. The only way i know Rick Nash is on the ice is to look for his number.. He doesnt stand out and doesnt really contribute in a way that you would expect to see from a player that was named to the best Olympic hockey team of 2014.

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#68 pelhem grenville
January 07 2014, 11:17AM
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... anyone who says that 87 is a great player AND the face of Team Canada but is not the veteran presence needs to rethink his statement...someone said Marleau, kidding right? look further up and down this rooster and find the missing vet you speak about...•Jay Bouwmeester?

if it's not Sid you tell us all here Vern...who do you see who's better than Sid...

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#69 Spydyr
January 07 2014, 11:19AM
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Defence looks great can the Oilers get one of them please.

Nash and Marleau would not be on my team. Replace them with Giroux and St.Louis. Although one of them should replace Stamkos eventually.

Goaltending may be an issue.

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#70 FSD
January 07 2014, 11:26AM
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Look at all these Oiler fans talking about who should and should not be on the team.

Your credibility is lacking most of you thought the Oilers were a playoff team this year.

Ha Ha Ha

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#71 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
January 07 2014, 12:14PM
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@john

So team Canada won't medal but the Oil will turn it around in the second half?

Pass that pipe, please.

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#72 DrunkGuyTy
January 07 2014, 12:35PM
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Was there more anticipation to find out who was on the team so we could start getting behind the guys or so everyone could start b!tching about who was omitted? I think it took TSN all of 3 seconds to turn the focus away from supporting the team to leading the complaints about who was left out.

Bottom line is we have the best players. Let's focus on getting behind those who are going and forget about those who aren't.

G'Oh Canada!

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#73 Eberle4MVP
January 07 2014, 12:39PM
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@Vernon Huynh

Clearly the best pic for Captain is Jonathan Toews... its not even close

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#74 Zarny
January 07 2014, 01:26PM
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A-Mc wrote:

When people are discussing the roster for team canada, things are said like "he wouldnt be good for this team", "he isn't a good option", "That's an OK choice, but for my money there are players who are better", etc.

Rick Nash hasn't been described as a "good" option. "Good", "Great fit", "Excellent choice", "Super player", etc. None of these terms are used to describe Nash's place on this team.

He's an OK choice, but (as you agree) there are better options. He's an OK player for Team Canada. That's all i'm saying. I wouldnt have taken him and obviously you agree.

I'm really not sure why you've created this Hill over the "OK" Nash label, and are now willing to die on it.

Nash is a great player in the NHL. He's an OK player for Team Canada. Using terms like Dumba$$, dolt, idiotic, and then finishing with the condescending term of "laughable", is a little much dont you think?

It is my observation that you try fairly hard to be pedantic at best, and flat out Troll-like at worst. Why all the negativity man!?

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!?!

You're right it is a bit much and troll-like. My bad.

I think it's simply ridiculous to label a player that is at worst 15-16th on the depth chart as OK.

Perhaps it's semantics, but Nash is a good choice for Team Canada. IMO not the best choice but he's far better than OK.

Rob Zaumner in Nagano. Now that was an OK pick.

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#75 RexHolez
January 07 2014, 03:21PM
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Zarny wrote:

And yet Lowe is still included in the Hockey Canada brain trust.

Sort of tells you the merit of all the Lowe criticism doesn't it.

I think the teams record in the last 8 years is all the merit needed for criticism.... But this isn't the thread for that! Go Canada

Little surprised ham humid made it and agree nash is lucky too

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#76 TigerUnderGlass
January 07 2014, 05:07PM
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I like how the guy who can't quite grasp why people might question the Kunitz selection is calling people idiots.

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#77 Ballsy Hallsy
January 07 2014, 10:38AM
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They made some mistakes (cough, Bergeron, Hamhuis, Carter, Bouwmeester, Nash), but they got some right (Duchene, Subban, Vlasic, Benn, Pietrangelo). Overall, I think they got more correct than not and I'm stoked for Canada's 2014 Gold Medal Run!

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#78 ToppsSmith
January 07 2014, 10:44AM
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geoilersgist wrote:

I am shocked that Nash made the team also. I don't think Stamkos will be ready in time either. The guy had his leg broken and just began skating on his own yesterday. Little surprised they left Seabrook off the team too.

Nash I think they will toss on the third line. Get him grinding, he is great at that when he isn't expected to score, Seabrook defiantly should be there too. I was shocked at a few names, but Nash wadn't one of them

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#79 pelhem grenville
January 07 2014, 10:49AM
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Vernon Huynh wrote:

i would argue the biggest surprise is no MSL...we had lemieux in 2002 as our veteran, 2006 was sakic, and 2010 was iggy....i don't see our veteran leader on this team

...87

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#80 Vernon Huynh
January 07 2014, 10:58AM
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@pelhem grenville

87 is a great player and the face of team canada, but he's no veteran...

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#81 vetinari
January 07 2014, 11:19AM
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I hope that the list, especially for defencemen and goalies, was "MacT's 2014 Trade Target List"...

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#82 Eric
January 07 2014, 11:23AM
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It is not all about the points. Most people think if you build an All-Star team you win. I really don't care that X got more points than Y. Look at J. Toews Bergeron 2 way players that put up points. YOUR BUILDING A TEAM.

Nash has an incredible record for international hockey.

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#83 Zarny
January 07 2014, 11:25AM
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A-Mc wrote:

I had 1 hope going in: i really wanted either Duchene or Hall to make the team. Both these players have something to their game that is hard to pin down. I think, if given the opportunity, they could really shine.

I am really happy for Matt Duchene! The announcement leaves me with a smile on my face.

My only gripe revolves around Nash. He's an OK player but he is no where near the player of some of these other guys being left off.

Many of the players being left off the team contribute greatly to their clubs. WHen they step on the ice, it's apparent that they are in play and they are difference makers. The only way i know Rick Nash is on the ice is to look for his number.. He doesnt stand out and doesnt really contribute in a way that you would expect to see from a player that was named to the best Olympic hockey team of 2014.

Nash had 42 pts in 44 games last year and played great. He has looked less than himself after the concussion this year and I agree there are better picks.

But to say Nash is an "OK" player is ridiculous.

OK players don't even get mentioned in the group of players cut before making final cuts for invitations to the orientation camp.

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#84 Spydyr
January 07 2014, 11:30AM
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Tikkanese wrote:

World Cup is superior to the Olympics.

1. Every team gets an actual training camp. This eliminates the debates over who should have been named to the team. It also creates chemistry for the teams by not relying on one or two practices for that chemistry.

2. No interupted NHL schedule

3. No condensed NHL schedule

4. No 5 A.M. game times due to time zone issues

5. Gives us hockey in the summer

6. The players will like it better as they will get paid for it as opposed to the Olympics

7. If Olympics are back to the amateurs, it gives the possibility of another "Miracle On Ice" to happen again

8. An amateur Olympic program in the past gave us great players such as Cliff Ronning, that would have never made it otherwise. It also strengthens other tournaments such as the Spengler Cup

9. There would be more parity in the Olympics. Even the USA domination of basketball is another example for things to change

I also like the World Cup idea but it should be every four years not every two. If it happens too often players will start to back out after long playoff runs.

They should also find that old Canada Cup trophy , award that and call it The Canada Cup.

Gretzky to Lemiuix..... Will it ever get better?

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#85 Nowuknow
January 07 2014, 11:44AM
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Had. 6rings involved in this selection process he knows a thing or two about losing. No metals for Canada but mental victory!

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#86 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 12:59PM
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@Zarny

Its too bad that when you're challenged you resort to name calling. You shouldn't let a hockey fan site bring you down like that.

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#87 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 01:08PM
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Zarny wrote:

It's simple dumba**...I agree there are better selections than Nash.

Calling Nash "OK" though is flat out idiotic; even with the superstars that comprise Team Canada.

Because the reality is that even though I don't think Nash should have been selected he's on the short list of reserves well ahead of Ladd, Kadri, Moulson, Ribeiro and Parenteau.

It is beyond laughable how dolts like you call a F who probably should 15-16th right now not 12-13th "OK".

LAUGHABLE. Like literally ROFLMAO.

When people are discussing the roster for team canada, things are said like "he wouldnt be good for this team", "he isn't a good option", "That's an OK choice, but for my money there are players who are better", etc.

Rick Nash hasn't been described as a "good" option. "Good", "Great fit", "Excellent choice", "Super player", etc. None of these terms are used to describe Nash's place on this team.

He's an OK choice, but (as you agree) there are better options. He's an OK player for Team Canada. That's all i'm saying. I wouldnt have taken him and obviously you agree.

I'm really not sure why you've created this Hill over the "OK" Nash label, and are now willing to die on it.

Nash is a great player in the NHL. He's an OK player for Team Canada. Using terms like Dumba$$, dolt, idiotic, and then finishing with the condescending term of "laughable", is a little much dont you think?

It is my observation that you try fairly hard to be pedantic at best, and flat out Troll-like at worst. Why all the negativity man!?

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!?!

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#88 LoweBlow
January 07 2014, 01:10PM
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I can't bloody wait to see this team play!!!! For an Oiler fan, this'll be the first decent team we'll have had to cheer for in a LONG time!

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#89 Zarny
January 07 2014, 02:16PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Looking through the list of forwards - the G and D I have zero problem with - Fleury has the same rep with hockey cda as dubnyk has with oiler fans. 4left 4right makes perfect sense - three things dominate:

Speed

Size

Seniority

Speed - every player is in the top percentile for speed

Size - every player is 6ft or over except crosby and Duchene - both at 5'11"

Seniority - eleven alumni

Apply all those criteria and the likes of st louis (size) and Giroux (5'11" 172lbs and declined to play for HC in the past) are knocked out.

This is a team that will not be beaten to a puck nor will it be knocked off the puck.

The one thing that may be missing - believe it or not - or at least was further down the list is playmaking. And playmaking begets scoring chances and goals. This may be a team that struggles to score against a disciplined defensive team - i'm looking at you sweden.

The three that I quibble with are:

Marleau - Got exposed/disappeared in the playoffs in years past. Perhaps in a less physically brutal olympic game he will play at a high level

Carter - Defensively how good is he? aren't there better options (see below)

Nash - Big ? - is he back to past levels or is he damaged like LeCavalier? going to be hard to tell him to go on the DL if he is subpar.

In their place i would have like to have seen:

Seguin - excellent two way player and playmaker can SKATE

Hall - lots of things in his favour - two Mem cup MVPs, natural LW to name two

Skinner - natural LW - great skater, even better shot- beats the very best goalies, Fearless

All three are part of the young guard, play on teams that are out of the playoffs, and are not part of the HC establishment.

Should this team fail, the place to start in the questioning will be with leaving these guys off. TOO conservative and approach will be the refrain.

Bang on that Hockey Canada favors seniority and experience. When you see Canada's World Jr's freeze under the pressure it's easy to see why.

Marleau will be fine on big ice. Super fast, kills penalties and extremely versatile. He doesn't have to be the man.

Carter is very good defensively contrary to some comments here. He killed penalties with Richards in Phi. Speed is the question mark with Carter on the big ice.

Nash is a big ?. Not playing well after the concussion, but again kills penalties and can play on a checking line.

Seguin and Hall are too young and inexperienced. They still try to force too risky plays instead of being patient.

Not to mention Bos had to put a bodyguard in front of Seguin's hotel room during the playoffs so he wouldn't skip out and party. Talented but nowhere near mature enough to play against the best of the best.

Skinner simply isn't good enough. He's not the same caliber as Hall or Seguin.

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#90 Rick Stroppel
January 07 2014, 02:21PM
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He Who Knows wrote:

Listen buddy, we will talk about Lowe anywhere and everywhere, even on Ellen if we have to because that POS does not belong in any executive capacity period. So there's always a time and place.

SO HARSH!

I don't like to reference cuss words, even using initials. Can we agree to refer to Lowe as a STEAMING PILE OF ODIFEROUS EXCREMENT?

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#91 Zarny
January 07 2014, 02:26PM
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Me wrote:

So you have a delorean and can time travel, or predict the future now...how coool is that. It's not a lock that he learns or become the more well rounded guy needed to be that guy. I'm trolling the idiots that seem to think Kunitz isn't the right pick, based on what i have no clue.

Yep, my Delorean is red and it is super cool.

Stamkos and Tavares aren't the most well-rounded players either. Their offense though makes up for it as will Hall's.

Hall has 88 pts in his last 82 games as a 21 y/o. 5-10 players a year put up more than a pt/gm over a whole season.

Kunitz is a questionable pick because the debate is top line with Crosby or not good enough for the Olympics.

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#92 Zarny
January 07 2014, 03:16PM
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Eberle4MVP wrote:

Its not even close because Jonathan Toews is one of the most respected men in hockey. Dont let his age fool you, his demeanor, his hockey IQ, his "Messier-like" attitude to put the game on his shoulders, and he is a born winner. Not Whinner, which is what a lot of people think of Crosby. Yes, he got us the golden goal 4 years ago, and yes, he is one of the best athletes in the world, but skill isnt the only determining factor in naming a Captain. Respect is. And i believe that Toews has the respect of just about everybody in the league. And he deserves the C come Olympic time.

Id like to hear an arguement on who is a better candidate? Cause, personally, I dont see a Scott Neidermayer on this team...

Toews would be an excellent choice for Captain; but to say it isn't close is simply wrong.

Crosby, despite your impression, is an incredible leader and has put Pit on his shoulders numerous times. He also has the respect of everyone in the league...and is the odds on favorite to be named Captain for Canada.

Oh and it's spelled whiner not whinner.

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#93 Zarny
January 07 2014, 03:17PM
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RexHolez wrote:

How come all the hockey canada managers come from winning teams accept Kevin Lowe? 1 of these things is not like the others....

And yet Lowe is still included in the Hockey Canada brain trust.

Sort of tells you the merit of all the Lowe criticism doesn't it.

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#94 Slats
January 07 2014, 03:40PM
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corky wrote:

Whats laughable is that Kevin Lowe is still part of this Team Canada "brainstrust".

someone needed to read the card . . . .

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#95 Cold Hard Truth
January 07 2014, 03:43PM
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@Zarny

You used a semicolon incorrectly. "But to say it isn't close is simply wrong" is a dependent clause and needs a comma, not a colon.

Before you hand out grammar/spelling lessons you should tighten up your own.

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#96 Spydyr
January 07 2014, 04:00PM
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stg wrote:

Are you kidding me hes a 4th liner for edmonton how would he possibly make team canade

Why not , Lowe did.

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January 07 2014, 11:04AM
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Lawndemon wrote:

Clearly this matches up with Babcock's preference for forward pairs:

Crosby - Kunitz Getzlaf - Perry Toews - Sharp

In a tournament where quick chemistry is critical, these selections are outstanding. This means only one guy has to adapt and Babcock can make changes on the fly.

Based on this logic, the biggest surprise to me is Hamhuis instead of Seabrook.

Seabrook is right hand shot and Hambuis is left hand shot so it is not Hambuis over Seabrook, it is PK Subban (who is a right hand shot) over Seabrook.

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#98 Vernon Huynh
January 07 2014, 11:05AM
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@pkam

no he really doesn't....marleau is not a leader like MSL is. MSL puts up just as many if not more points (art ross winner last year) and wears the C of a young over achieving Tampa Team as they sit in the top tier of the east.

Marleau was removed as captain on the Sharks team.

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#99 pkam
January 07 2014, 11:19AM
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Wintoon wrote:

Sisyphus your comments are on the money. It doesn't matter how well a player plays, it matters how well a player's team plays.

That does not bode well for Hall, Eberle or RNH in the future.

Pens was 2nd last and drafted Jordan Staal after drafting 4 top 2 picks 4 years in a row.

Now Crosby and Kunitz are selected, and Neal and MAF are probably on the bubble list.

Who knows what will happen 4 years later.

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#100 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 07 2014, 11:22AM
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Lawndemon wrote:

Clearly this matches up with Babcock's preference for forward pairs:

Crosby - Kunitz Getzlaf - Perry Toews - Sharp

In a tournament where quick chemistry is critical, these selections are outstanding. This means only one guy has to adapt and Babcock can make changes on the fly.

Based on this logic, the biggest surprise to me is Hamhuis instead of Seabrook.

I heard on one f the radio shows that the pairs thing didn't work out in the last Olympics....the pairs were dismantled / separated early in the tournament.

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